Because this organization has a giant corporate structure that takes forever to do anything. There are like 7 or 8 AGMs and none of them really know what they are doing because there is no strong leadership from the top. Nobody is actually running things and they are all way too polite and nice to each other. The time was in November or December but now it is too late so there is no point.
You can only have so many scapegoats until they came for you.
Tre needs to figure out what he thinks the problem is before he can act on it.
Same goes for Pelley.
If you keep firing coaches and GMS, then the problem might be you.
They replaced his whole brain, what else do you want?
Because we’re trying to lose obviously. Why would they want a potential ‘new coach bump’ when we are actively trying to get into the bottom 5
Why fix what’s already working? 😂
no point this close to season being over
They should have fired him back in November when they were last
I mean Pelly is cheap and fired a lot of positions doubt bro wants to pay him out and bring in a replacement during the season.
Unfortunately these are not serious people when it comes to winning. Just making money.
I’m reminded again after the buzz of drafting Matthews wearing off these people have no incentive to make the leafs great just to be good enough to keep our attention
Because we want a new coach to come in during the off season and get a fresh start without the baggage of this season, obviously. And because we don’t want a new coach to get used to and comfortable with losing with the Leafs, obviously.
Why the hell would we replace the coach late in the season when it’s clear we aren’t going to make the playoffs and we want–hell, NEED because of the Bruins pick–to tank hard? What purpose would that serve other than placating dumbass fans who are pissed at Berube and the team and can’t think 5 minutes ahead?
Is this sub even capable of thinking?
Because Pelley needs to fire himself first before he can fire Berube. Yes, nothing makes sense and I am depressed.
There’s no point firing Berube right now. Any coach can tank. Let him finish the season, then he’s gone.
Treliving on the other hand needs to go asap. The sooner the new GM gets to work the better.
Too late. I’d be surprised if hes not gone by end of the season though
Because they’re looking for a whole new set of management. Until we have the new set, we gain nothing and lose nothing from firing them on the spot. The only gain of firing them right now is your satisfaction and that’s not important at all.
I think the window to fire him this season has passed. He still could be after but there’s no point firing him now and going on a run to end this season and finishing out of the bottom 5. You might as well lose as much as you can at this pointe and embrace getting a bottom 5 pick m
Because we want to lose… DO NOT FIRE BERUBE fire him over the off season and bring in new life for next season do night light a fire under the leafs rn.
Because upper management is a joke. Theyre the main problem.
A GM only has so many coach firings before it’s his own ass on the line. This year already in the books. They want someone to be able to blame for NEXT YEAR’S losing. And it’s an easy sell to corporate. Why pay a new coach with this much left in the season. Just ride out Bérubé.
Brain surgery. Leave the man be
There’s no point right now. The season is unsalvageable, and firing him now wouldn’t change that. It would only humiliate Bérubé.
He’ll be gone as soon as the season is over.
We’re trying to lose, he is good at losing.
fire the gm now and the coach at the end of the season for tanking purposes. tanking isn’t just about the first round it effects every round of the draft. At the this point the lower we finish the better. Firing the gm now gives them time to hire a decent new one and prepare for the draft and the trades that need to be made at the draft.
When is the next MLSE board meeting? We need Pelley and Treliving gone.
Do we really want a new coach at this point? Leafs management should be trying to get the worst placement in the standings as possible and to do that, you keep Berube.
For the tank?
Maybe leafs don’t want the new coach bump to happen
We need to get to bottom 5, he’s doing a great job.
Rogers has become cheap and won’t spend money on new coaching
I have mixed feelings. He has definitely completely lost this team, but on the other hand, the need to tank right now is real. He might be our best chance at getting our pick back.
Tank commander
🫡 commander of the tank
Because if you light the dumpster on fire, EVERYONE will see.
Because realistically no one truly better is available is my guess. Team sucks, but it’s not his fault. We have zero talent outside of 34 and 88 and that’s pushing it. Matthews is basically average without an elite team around him, the Olympics proved that.
Probably because there’s no point now. We’re already not making the playoffs so why fire the guy if it’ll make no difference? He’s most likely fired before the draft.
There is no point in firing him now. You are not going anywhere near the playoffs. If the leafs keep dropping it’s more beneficial for them in the long run. You want the likes of the preds, blues, black Hawks and jets to do better than you down the stretch to hopefully hold onto that 1st round pick.
Realistically, it doesn’t matter.
The team is absolutely terrible and will stay that way for years.
Multiple reasons.
-It is in the organizations best interest at this point to sink as far as possible in the standing to hopefully save that first round pick, Berube hockey is doing a fine job helping reach that goal.
-There will be more head coaches available in the off season than there are now to bring in as a replacement.
-Firing him now and just having of the assistant coaches fill in as an interim head coach is just doing them dirty as they will spend the rest of the season being hammered by the media, only for them to likely be let go in the off season as well since a new head coach will want to bring in their own staff.
-The players are mentally checked out of the season and you don’t want the beginning of a relationship with a new HC to be under such circumstances.
As a casual hockey enjoyed who doesn’t make his entire personality based on how well my team is doing to determine my mood, how much of it is actually his fault?
In any other NHL organization Craig and Brad would have been gunned in December. Leafs Organization from the very top down is a joke.
Because it’s not his job to provide the players, that’s Brad’s job, and honestly Brad hasn’t done a good job.
He should have been fired months ago, makes no difference when you do it now. Especially since we’re tanking
Do we know what happened to his head?
Because we want to lose. He goes in May.
So a hockey player takes 30 seconds or longer from getting run through the boards, automatic concussion protocol. Elderly coach has a gym accident that obviously involved pretty serious trauma to the head and there isnt even a discussion about him taking a step back? I was shocked when I saw the damage to his head, that he was coaching that week.
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Because this organization has a giant corporate structure that takes forever to do anything. There are like 7 or 8 AGMs and none of them really know what they are doing because there is no strong leadership from the top. Nobody is actually running things and they are all way too polite and nice to each other. The time was in November or December but now it is too late so there is no point.
You can only have so many scapegoats until they came for you.
Tre needs to figure out what he thinks the problem is before he can act on it.
Same goes for Pelley.
If you keep firing coaches and GMS, then the problem might be you.
They replaced his whole brain, what else do you want?
Because we’re trying to lose obviously. Why would they want a potential ‘new coach bump’ when we are actively trying to get into the bottom 5
Why fix what’s already working? 😂
no point this close to season being over
They should have fired him back in November when they were last
I mean Pelly is cheap and fired a lot of positions doubt bro wants to pay him out and bring in a replacement during the season.
Unfortunately these are not serious people when it comes to winning. Just making money.
I’m reminded again after the buzz of drafting Matthews wearing off these people have no incentive to make the leafs great just to be good enough to keep our attention
Because we want a new coach to come in during the off season and get a fresh start without the baggage of this season, obviously. And because we don’t want a new coach to get used to and comfortable with losing with the Leafs, obviously.
Why the hell would we replace the coach late in the season when it’s clear we aren’t going to make the playoffs and we want–hell, NEED because of the Bruins pick–to tank hard? What purpose would that serve other than placating dumbass fans who are pissed at Berube and the team and can’t think 5 minutes ahead?
Is this sub even capable of thinking?
Because Pelley needs to fire himself first before he can fire Berube. Yes, nothing makes sense and I am depressed.
There’s no point firing Berube right now. Any coach can tank. Let him finish the season, then he’s gone.
Treliving on the other hand needs to go asap. The sooner the new GM gets to work the better.
Too late. I’d be surprised if hes not gone by end of the season though
Because they’re looking for a whole new set of management. Until we have the new set, we gain nothing and lose nothing from firing them on the spot. The only gain of firing them right now is your satisfaction and that’s not important at all.
I think the window to fire him this season has passed. He still could be after but there’s no point firing him now and going on a run to end this season and finishing out of the bottom 5. You might as well lose as much as you can at this pointe and embrace getting a bottom 5 pick m
Because we want to lose… DO NOT FIRE BERUBE fire him over the off season and bring in new life for next season do night light a fire under the leafs rn.
Because upper management is a joke. Theyre the main problem.
A GM only has so many coach firings before it’s his own ass on the line. This year already in the books. They want someone to be able to blame for NEXT YEAR’S losing. And it’s an easy sell to corporate. Why pay a new coach with this much left in the season. Just ride out Bérubé.
Brain surgery. Leave the man be
There’s no point right now. The season is unsalvageable, and firing him now wouldn’t change that. It would only humiliate Bérubé.
He’ll be gone as soon as the season is over.
We’re trying to lose, he is good at losing.
fire the gm now and the coach at the end of the season for tanking purposes. tanking isn’t just about the first round it effects every round of the draft. At the this point the lower we finish the better. Firing the gm now gives them time to hire a decent new one and prepare for the draft and the trades that need to be made at the draft.
When is the next MLSE board meeting? We need Pelley and Treliving gone.
Do we really want a new coach at this point? Leafs management should be trying to get the worst placement in the standings as possible and to do that, you keep Berube.
For the tank?
Maybe leafs don’t want the new coach bump to happen
We need to get to bottom 5, he’s doing a great job.
Rogers has become cheap and won’t spend money on new coaching
I have mixed feelings. He has definitely completely lost this team, but on the other hand, the need to tank right now is real. He might be our best chance at getting our pick back.
Tank commander
🫡 commander of the tank
Because if you light the dumpster on fire, EVERYONE will see.
Because realistically no one truly better is available is my guess. Team sucks, but it’s not his fault. We have zero talent outside of 34 and 88 and that’s pushing it. Matthews is basically average without an elite team around him, the Olympics proved that.
Probably because there’s no point now. We’re already not making the playoffs so why fire the guy if it’ll make no difference? He’s most likely fired before the draft.
There is no point in firing him now. You are not going anywhere near the playoffs. If the leafs keep dropping it’s more beneficial for them in the long run. You want the likes of the preds, blues, black Hawks and jets to do better than you down the stretch to hopefully hold onto that 1st round pick.
Realistically, it doesn’t matter.
The team is absolutely terrible and will stay that way for years.
Multiple reasons.
-It is in the organizations best interest at this point to sink as far as possible in the standing to hopefully save that first round pick, Berube hockey is doing a fine job helping reach that goal.
-There will be more head coaches available in the off season than there are now to bring in as a replacement.
-Firing him now and just having of the assistant coaches fill in as an interim head coach is just doing them dirty as they will spend the rest of the season being hammered by the media, only for them to likely be let go in the off season as well since a new head coach will want to bring in their own staff.
-The players are mentally checked out of the season and you don’t want the beginning of a relationship with a new HC to be under such circumstances.
As a casual hockey enjoyed who doesn’t make his entire personality based on how well my team is doing to determine my mood, how much of it is actually his fault?
In any other NHL organization Craig and Brad would have been gunned in December. Leafs Organization from the very top down is a joke.
Because it’s not his job to provide the players, that’s Brad’s job, and honestly Brad hasn’t done a good job.
He should have been fired months ago, makes no difference when you do it now. Especially since we’re tanking
Do we know what happened to his head?
Because we want to lose. He goes in May.
So a hockey player takes 30 seconds or longer from getting run through the boards, automatic concussion protocol. Elderly coach has a gym accident that obviously involved pretty serious trauma to the head and there isnt even a discussion about him taking a step back? I was shocked when I saw the damage to his head, that he was coaching that week.