[Julia Poe] The Jaden Ivey debacle is another embarrassing failure for Artūras Karnišovas and the Chicago Bulls

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  2. AK has an incredible argument for his worst decision, top 5 in whatever order:
    – Ivey trade
    – Ayo trade
    – Drafting Williams
    – Signing Williams for $90M
    – Not trading any of the DeBallZach and Vooch core when they had optimal value

    I’m probably missing some more, but most of these are over the last like 20 months.

  3. Man, I miss the times when I could just defend their shitty trades for Vuc and DeMar by saying it was a swing and a miss on a championship team.

    They need to be gone. Them and ownership. This franchise is a failure.

  6. It’s as if AKME does zero due diligence on these players before making franchise altering decisions. And by “franchise altering”, I mean “franchise ruining”

  7. Jerry Reinsdorf with two of the worst FOs in professional sports. What a dipshit. Lucked into rings and doesn’t know ball.

  8. The bulls are never in the news for anything good lately. First, they were roundly mocked for getting all those second round picks and then getting one taken away because their player failed a physical. then Buzelis (who has been a bright spot otherwise) got negative attention for trash talking Luka and getting completely humiliated by him during & after the game. Then all the obvious leaks from Billy Donovan about how he wants to leave and coach a college team because they have no plan. Now this Ivey thing. None of this bodes well for the offseason. well, unless they sell the team or at the very least fire AKME.

  11. julia’s response to this whole situation was the one I’ve been most keen to hear, and I’m grateful she wasn’t put into the position of having to explain why jaden’s comments were unacceptable. but anyway, she’s dead right, it should be ak, not billy, out there taking responsibility for not only what’s happened in the last week but making this trade in the first place. it’s not enough that he’s repeatedly made heinous decisions for this franchise, he also rarely if ever has to face the public heat and take accountability for those decisions

  13. He’s constantly missing the right point to turn players into value, while out of his draft decisions only Matas and Ayo seem to have the talent and the necessary drive to improve themselves and put in the work.

    Add to that that he sent away Peter Patton who got picked up 6 months later by the Knicks.

    I’ll give him Caruso, Ball, DeRozan, Giddey, Matas, Ayo and Tre. Hell I’ll give him Miller and Okoro for good measure.

    But really? He missed the right time to move Zach, he hasn’t been able to aquire another unprotected first rounder, while trying to rebuild, he hasn’t been able to put together a good player development staff and the best player development guy he fired because he didn’t suck AK off enough.

    Add to that how negligent he missed Lauri and that he turned a 4th draft pick into Patrick Williams and gave up Ayo and Coby for a bunch of 2nd rounders and a collection of players of whom maybe Miller might be on the roster next season and yeah..Bulls have the 2nd worst track record, right next to the Kings.

  15. It really seems like they didn’t do their due diligence on this guy before getting him, what the fuck else is new? Failure franchise.

  16. Hate to say it but if we kinda just keep our team together instead trading people like Galford. Laurie M… Ayo… Wendel Carter.. Coby W.. man we could’ve done been somewhere…

  19. Not he is meant to be the leader, but is a poor communicator. His limited press conferences leave you thinking he is out of his depth, borrowing Sam Presti mannerisms and comments to make it look like he has a clue what he is doing. He is embarrassing

  20. God it’s not like we had much to trade for this rebuild but we’ve gotten fleeced or sold low on every single piece. Legitimately nothing to show for the past 10 years of ‘competing’ besides losing to Miami in the play in. If Jerry is going to be such a cheap bastard at least sell the team to some billionaire who wants to brag to his friends that he owns the bulls. No doubt he can get 7+ billion for this team

  21. He was traded for Kevin and they got a 2nd rounder too Jesus Christ it wasn’t the worst deal but pistons def undersold what Ivey was going thru and prob withheld info just to get rid of him.

  22. As someone who was a big fan of the Ivey trade, I’ll certainly admit I was wrong on this one. I don’t really follow players outside of games, so I was completely oblivious to the fact he had these off court issues long before his recent outburst.

    Granted, as a fan I’m not sure I should be expected to know that info. But the FO definitely should.

  23. Ivey wasn’t even the worst decision on the trade deadline. They traded an expiring bench role player for a high ceiling young prospect who then suffered a total mental breakdown.

  24. Bulls so dysfunctional Jaden wasn’t here a month and quickly realized that only god could save him from the bulls.

  25. No paywall link?

    “Before I married my wife, we had went through trials together,” Ivey said on the podcast. “I dealt with anger. She had to deal with a lot of anger that I had in my heart. That turned into me being somewhat an abuser. I’m not saying that was it, but there was things that I tried to fill in my heart. I’m so grateful for my wife because she’s been there for me through thick and thin.”

    Fuck this guy.

  28. It all stems from the reinsdorfs. Will not watch or support until they are gone.

  30. I want to congratulate ArtEv on surpassing GarPax for organizational shittiness. 🎶Only the Bulls🎶Only the Bulls🎶

  32. The fail son Michael running this crap is awful. We need JR to sell the team. Michael, son of a billionaire, went to ASU for his education. Tells you everything you need to know about him really. ASU is a fine school for us normies, but dude was looking to party and he has no attributes needed to run a business or team well.

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