Stephen A. can’t defend putting Aaron Rodgers in the GOAT conversation 👀 | First Take
Rogers is entering his second season with the New York Jets after his first ended much sooner than anyone expected in the wake of Rogers tearing his Achilles in the home opener versus the bills could a second Super Bowl be on the horizon for the Star Quarterback Hall of Famer CT Warner has a strong take about what it would mean for his legacy take a Liston you know Aaron um you know is one of the best quarterbacks our league has ever seen but he doesn’t get into the greatest conversation uh until he gets to another Super Bowl the New York Jets who have never won and this could maybe set Aon you know in kind of a different category so many friends today I don’t know what to do with myself Super Bowl champion Damen Woody in the house great to see you sir and the queen Kimberly how we doing I’m good I’m good uh Stephen A you want to say hi to your friend notor no no no no notorious Liberace what’s going on big boy what’s going on baby I like that to baby you know it is it is pretty fly if I should say so but what’s up kly how you doing girl how’s everything going how’s how’s everything how’s everything you going to come to work you going to come here where where why are you hiding are you scared like why are you not here Stephen why are you not here answer answer this question do you have do you have do do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound when you say am I coming to work when I’m always working seven days a week I would add thank you very much okay brick I just miss you that’s all don’t worry I just miss you well that’s you know what I miss you too I miss you too I’m sorry see I I I usually would know that but Molly has Jed me just a little bit Molly has jaded me a little get right to it how do I get like I should have just started with like I I normally would have assumed you know what you miss me then Molly would have accused me of being arrogant and all of this other stuff onion I want to give that Amun so she messed with kimim she messed with she messed with I will be your punching bag you know some people have a service animal whatever it is that’s fine you can just take it out on me it’s all good it’s fine I’ll justce see that’s the victim right there that’s the vi that’s that’s the victim right there she’ll be my punching she she punches she punches all the time but she’s the punching bag football can I talk foootball go for it go for it anybody stop you settle down seriously settle down drink your milk and honey does Rogers need another Super Bowl to be in the goat conversation seriously Stephen I don’t even think that puts him in the go conversation um Tom Brady’s got seven Patrick Mahomes has three Aaron Rogers hasn’t been to a Super Bowl since 2010 so even if he were to win another Super Bowl that doesn’t put him in the conversation now I believe until Patrick Mahomes came along he was the greatest talent that I ever saw at the quarterback position the greatest talent but not the greatest winner of course not and when you look at the fact that his talent is spectacular as it is as a quarterback in the National Football League hasn’t gotten him to a Super Bowl let alone winning one in 14 straight years I can’t defend that and we all know he’s a b to me I’m the I’m the man of coin the free he’s a bad man he is that dude I love Aaron roders I think he’s spectacular I think he’s been getting a lot of heat unnecessarily you know for whatever he feels off the field of play um and that’s his business but in the end as a quarterback the brother is something special he’s something spectacular I love him I love I believe in him but again credentials are credent credentials resume is resume when we Google you when we look you up the numbers speak for themselves and he’s not in that category I’m terms in terms of winning so there’s no way that you can put him in the goat you can look at him as a great talent but when you talk about goat status um goat status is about winning that’s about closing the deal and that is something he has only done once in his career and he hasn’t done it in the last 14 straight years no he doesn’t get to be in that category as much as I want to argue with Stephen A I cannot because when Aaron Rogers has the same amount of Super Bowl rings as flacko Nick FES Trent D for Russell Wilson and as you heard Stephen A say he’s something spectacular if he ends his career without a second Super Bowl what’s the word we used earlier underachiever you’re going to look at the talent that He has and say he he could have he should have done more because he’s too talented not to the MVPs are wonderful but when you see him one and four in Conference Championship games when you see that 16 quarterbacks have started a Super Bowl since Rogers last was in one in 2010 that’s a problem and I think Stephen A touched on this the fact that Patrick momes has come into the league and done more from a from a Lombardi standpoint than Aaron Rogers you can’t help but look at Rogers and think we need to see more you were too talented not to win another Super Bowl yeah I think the conversation as far as Grace all time that he’ll never achieve that but I do think that we can change the narrative with Aaron Rogers he goes out and wins another Super Bowl because he would be in rarify erir as a guy who’s won two super bowls with two different organizations aist right it’s a smaller list combin that with the you know MVPs the thing we can say about Aaron rers like right now he like he’s he’s going to be a first ballot he’s going to walk into the Hall of Fame because he’s he’s outside of Patrick Mahomes he was the greatest throw of the football that we we’ve ever seen but because how great he how great of a thrower he he has been throughout his career and the fact that he’s only been to one Super Bowl in one one and obviously it’s the same leg as the Achilles does he have all the pieces around him as long as he’s healthy to really make a run now this season is there no excuses I’m talking line I’m talking weapons defense the whole deal this is the this is the most talented team that Aaron Rogers has ever played on throughout his career ever played on ever in his whole career okay Aaron roders has never had a defense like like the Jets have right now and then you look at what what what the Jets have done what they’ve added offensively with the additions on the offensive line you got gar Gary Wilson that wide receiver you got Bree Hall you got Mike Williams who’s although coming off of ACL he’s still a big time Big Time Target like there like this is a really stacked roster if you look at it jet on paper a lot of things got to go right they got to stay healthy but this is the best roster that Aaron Rogers has had in his career if everything goes according to plan the Jets should win the Super Bowl oh their plan but that it that requires so many variables and you’re starting with a quarterback who’s about to be 41 in December coming off in Achilles I yeah on on paper they look amazing Stephen A why are you making that face what what Kimberly Kimberly Martin Kimberly Martin how you gonna sit up here on national television and say if everything goes according to plan they should win the Super Bowl not my plan not God’s plan not my plan I don’t know I’m talking about their plan oh oh oh I thought you were saying if everything goes Accord to plan you know on paper they show listen even on paper even on paper I don’t look at them and view them as better than Baltimore I don’t view them as better than Philly I don’t view them as better than San Francisco I don’t view them better than a few teams in the in the NFL I think they’re in the mix I think they could win it but I don’t view them as a team just based on their on paper that oh my goodness you know what they they they got it all and they should win there’s about two or three look at Houston [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
Stephen A. can’t defend putting Aaron Rodgers in the GOAT conversation 👀 | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Damien Woody and Kimberley A. Martin debate whether Aaron Rodgers needs another Super Bowl to be in the GOAT conversation.
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43 comments
How could he rate higher than Peyton??
If he in the convo Eli in the convo and it’s no debit
How many hours a year do they bloviate about whose the 🐐 in sports lol.
SOO when are people gonna hold the PACKERS accountable?
He barely won 1 Super Bowl and that’s only because of the fumble by Rashaad mendenhall
Brady is the goat and I hate Brady (Steelers fan)
Get rid of both those chicks… This show is terrible
Kurt Warner can go suck an egg, don't care what he says, ARod is definitely in GOAT conversation.
mahomes is officially better than Aaron , but its great to see Aaron still playing, he's the last of the great qbs of the past still in the league, and then their is russ.
How can you have a Goat conversation when there's Only one clear Goat…
I understand a Mount Rushmore or Top 10 debate
Absolutely not. Farve doesnt deserve to be why would he?
Ummmm..The JETS beat undefeated Philly with Zach Wilson at QB! Whatchu mean they not better than Philly? Psssshhh..Stephen A B on 1. Who they gonna lose to and how? Who scoring points against the JETS? Who's stopping their offense if it's healthy? 17 & 0 Like do yall see how young and talented the roster is! All they gotta worry about is Lazard dropping passes..lol..
Yes GOAT!!!
Rodgers is a bad man but he ain't in the GOAT convo. He's barely in the top 5 convo.
He's probably the most skilled/talented QB next to Mahomes but he underachieved.
With just 1 ring I have him just above Dan manrio
ohhhh molly 🤤
14yrs since last Super Bowl win that's like 50 football years ago😮
Women on this show making half of it drama…”why’d you sayyy thaaaat?” Or “Settle down, I’m speaking!” Please get more qualified women on the show please
Rodgers: looks at his achilles
Kimberley: this guy is worse than any nazi
Do we all just forget that he was on onside kick away from his 2nd Super Bowl? The only qb to carry a terrible defense on that offensive side of the ball? Where are peoples brains?
Good golly Ms Molly ❤
Rodger's isn't really clutch fr fr. Two straight NFC championship games with a chance to win it.
Bro, this conversation has BEEN over. Why are we still talking about this? Mahomes is pretty much ahead of Rodgers already. Rodgers has ONE ring. Rodgers doesn’t have enough accomplishments. Sure he has what, 4 league MVP’s, but that’s not enough to put him in the conversation. Dude has 1 ring, 1 SB appearance. This conversation is OVER. It’s Brady. It’s BEEN Brady.
Dude won only 1 superbowl in 20 years and he won it 15 years ago. Aaron rodgers can never be in that convo
Brady, in his first season in the NFC, accomplished everything Rodgers did in all his time with Green Bay.
4 people in the goat convo Lawrence Taylor Joe Montana Tom Brady & Jerry Rice !!! That’s it
Numbers and mvps dont lie . Last couple of years in gb he had a trash offense.
If Peyton who only won 2 SBs (got carried by defense) for the second one is in the goat conversation then Rodgers if he wins a championship with the Jets is in that conversation.
The Jets have been the worst franchise in sports for decades and if Rodgers at age 41 off a torn Achilles in a crazy good conference with Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Herbert, etc wins the Super Bowl and has 2 on his resume with 2 different teams how could he not be mentioned in the top 5? He’s already got the numbers and MVPs
Favre has better numbers than Rodgers. First ballot HOF though.
Aaron Rogers is under performer dude always have a stack teams in Green Bay
Rodgers is yesterdays news.
AaRod ain’t even close to goat. They are officially out of things to talk about
Brady Montana Mahomes Manning Elway. That’s my 5 I have been set on since Mahomes jumped on board. Prior to Mahomes ARod was in my 5
No he's just a great regular season QB but Pat took his spot….
Nobody in their right mind would put him in a goat debate. He’s in the step below with guys like drew Bree’s.
I have Rodgers and Vick in the same category as elite talents who have all of the style and traits that every qb wants.
Patrick Mahomes. Joe Burrow is coming.
The ring culture is such a misguided measure. Dan Marino doesn't have one and he's top 5 all time at the position.
Jamarcus Russel is closer to GOAT than Rodgers. Context is everything
I feel like if Rogers had left Green Bay, and join better teams at that time, he would've gotten more superbowls in my opinion
Really it's Tom and the only person close to him is mahomes because he's still playing and I'm a Bengals fan
Kimberley Martin literally has ZERO football knowledge it’s insane. If healthy THEY STILL WON’T WIN THE SB. Why are certain ppl aloud to talk football
rodgers was never in that conversation and never will be he is one of the most talented we ever seen just like marino but there not goats or top 5 there alltime greats (top 10) like alot of there peers manning farve brees elway young big ben (yes i said big ben do your research people) there is only 3 goats montana the first brand the last and mahomes the current those 3 were the best of there era nobody was better than them so there the only 3 in that conversation and kimberly does have alot of bad takes but i agree with her today and her and molly are great eye candy for the show and that white dress is flawless!