Kurt Warner Weighs In On Tua Tagovailoa & Dolphins’ Long-Term Outlook Amid Second Contract Talks

Kurt Warner Weighs In On Tua Tagovailoa & Dolphins’ Long-Term Outlook Amid Second Contract Talks

Hall of Fame quarterback CTT Warner caused a bit of a stir on social media amidst his assessment of to a tongue of aloa so we have them on the show here today to talk further in depth about the Miami Dolphins their offense and their decision looming to pay or not pay Tua you are locked on dolphins your daily Miami Dolphins podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day all right May welcome to another episode of Locked on dolphins it is your team every day here on the lockon network I’m your host Kyle Krabs a lifelong Miami Dolphins fan host of locked on dolphins co-host of locked on NFL scouting you can find our shows on YouTube or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast tip of the cap to our every dayers because it is your team every day we don’t just say it we live it here on the locked on network today’s episode of Locked on dolphins is brought to you by game time download the game time app create an account use code locked on NFL for $20 off your first purchase terms do apply and boy oh boy am I fired up for this one uh I don’t have the rundown of all the guests that Travis Wingfield has had on during his time as the host of lockone dolphins before he left to join the Dolphins organization and do the DriveTime podcast uh but I can tell you this I’ve had some great guests on this program throughout my tenure as the host of the show this one’s probably going to take the cake Hall of Fame quarterback Curt Warner uh provided some assessment of Tu tangoa last week asking his followers about the Outlook of the best anticipatory throwers in the game he proceeded to Spotlight Tua Kurt’s done a number of uh film breakdowns on YouTube for the Dolphins and Tua in the Mike McDaniel offense over the past two seasons even some from the disastrous 2021 season where we had co-offensive coordinators and another guy who was calling plays to start the year and uh the Insight that Kurt has always given has been great and there’s some really fascinating parallels between Kurt as a player and what we’ve seen thus far with Tua and I reached out and happened to get a a yes to have Kurt Warner on the show so we’re not going to waste any more of your time we’re going to Dive Right In with Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt to talk about Tu a Tong of aloa in depth here today on lockon dolphins the man I’m joined with today needs no introduction on the show but we’re going to give him one anyway a current NFL network analyst Kurt Warner a member of the pro football hall of fames class of 2017 two-time NFL MVP Super Bowl 34 MVP and the point man of the NFL’s greatest show on Turf Kurt story is an incredible one if you aren’t familiar with it I recommend you watch American Underdog the biopic film Kurt also said some nice things about Tu Tang ofo recently on the internet and made him the latest uh in this debate that we’re seem to be doomed to endure on a daily basis for the rest of time which brings us here today on lockon dolphins Kurt thanks so much for taking some time out of your day and joining me here on lockon dolphins you got it good to be on with you so I I wanted to give you the opportunity first and foremost for anybody who’s not familiar with kind of where you stand on Tu a tongue of aloa as a player uh to kind of get them up to speed as far as how you view him overall as a player now that we’re four years into his NFL careers the Dolphins kind of on this decision on whether or not to pay him yeah you know when I watch tape on all the quarterbacks in the NFL um you know I break them down as a whole you know trying to look at all the different things that they do the things that they do really really well maybe the things they do well that’s different than what other guys do and then you try to and I don’t even really want to say rank them uh you know more importantly for me I try to assess or analyze who they are as a quarterback what they do well where they need to improve if they want to become great so uh the thing about Tua is he’s been really good the last couple years I I’m not putting him in that great category but I always like to preface that with there’s only a few of those guys uh at any given time in the NFL you know any era where you say you know this guy is you know one of the greats this guy to me I talk about franchise quarterbacks a lot and to me a franchise quarterback is a guy that you believe if nothing else happened on the offense that you could put the ball in that quarterback’s hands 40 45 times and he could give you a chance to win every timeout so there’s only a handful of those guys but there are some things that I believe Tua is a lead at um maybe does better than anybody in the National Football League and those things are his ability to anticipate uh get the ball out quick um and he’s got great accuracy uh in doing that and so that to me is where he separates himself where you know you’ve seen this offense be one of the best offenses in the league for the last couple years and it primarily stems from those skills of Tua connected with uh coach McDaniel’s uh offense and what they’re trying to do and they fit perfectly together and so that’s where he excels that’s where this offense excels and you watch them week in and week out they want to try to do the same sort of things every week and when they’re allowed to do that they are tough to stop uh you know coach Tua and then obviously the incredible weapons they have starting with Tyreek Hill uh to be explosive for me where Tua needs to get better and where this offense needs to get better is when option number one isn’t there um designing plays that give to a uh you know a full gamut of things if the defense takes this away then this should be open or this should be open so I think they need to improve scheme wise in that regard and then Tua his ability to go beyond number one I I they’ve been so good offensively at getting to that number one option and with two of strengths um you could look at the tape sometimes and go man he’s forcing that a little bit you know he’s forcing that throw but he gets away with it a lot because of that anticipation and that accuracy but where it comes to haunt you is when that guy really isn’t open when there really is no option to throw it and we’re trying to force it in there or we get stuck on that option too long and then we’re not able to progress through that and get the ball to our secondary and our third receiver and that to me is where they have struggled uh especially against good teams right good teams are going to take away what you do best and they’re going to force you to win away from your strength and that to me is what Tua and this Miami Dolphins has to have to prove to the league is that when you take that away we can still win in big moments against good teams there’s a lot of good stuff there that I want to get into but I’m glad you invoked the word anticipation I know you posted recently that you were watching some old games of yourself and one of your greatest strengths anticipation could also be one of your greatest weaknesses at time uh you continue to go on say the ability to hit small Windows releasing the ball early like you were just saying how Tua can get away with that at times even if it’s not necessarily the ideal progression to go to um but then you get something a little different with the wide receiver and it hits the defensive back in the numbers as compared to what you expected that receiver to do there’s this great debate around a lot of fans around anticipation and I I think you’re uniquely qualified to kind of weigh in on it because of how you played the game so when you consider the elements of the position whether it’s throwing the ball as the receiver gets to the top of the break or maybe post Snap leverage from a defensive back or throwing to a spot with timing what do you consider yourself to be the anticipatory elements of playing the position of quarterback yeah let me just say this first is that you know I look at anticipation similar to a lot of people look at the ability to extend a play um you know because we have so many great athletes in this league now and you know we’ve got a number of uh you know quarterbacks that are tremendous athletically and they may not have the anticipation piece so they may miss out on that part of the play but they make up for it at times because they have the ability to extend plays on the back end I believe anticipation allows you to extend plays on the front end it allows you to be able to do things that other guys can’t do and so that’s where I see the value of anticipation where a lot of people you know see value in extending plays and extending plays anticipation does that because it allows you to make plays it allows you to make throws that other guys aren’t able to make and that windows that close up on other guys you’re able to make them so you’re extending that play similarly to uh a player on the back end um you know when it comes to anticipation and I’m actually doing a piece um about this in the next coming month um on NFL plus so uh anybody listening go check it out because it’ll have some Visual Evidence to go along with what I’m talking about but I but I believe there’s two aspects of anticipation and the first one is is timing the ability to throw to a spot the ability to have that Nuance with your wide receiver to understand when he’s going to break when he’s going to come out of his break can I let this ball go early before the defense is able to react and get there so that’s the first part is is the timing and I know a lot of people think well everybody has no everybody doesn’t have that same timing everybody can’t see it three steps ahead of when they have to throw it and so the other part with anticipation is allows you to throw the ball different ways if I’m a second later even though I’m trying to throw with timing I got to drive the throw I got to throw it through a guy to hit a window if I can anticipate and see that two steps ahead of another quarterback now I can lay the ball I can lay it over the top of a linebacker I can layer it into different spots which again allow me to be more successful on different kinds of throws because I can throw it different ways and I can throw it earlier or later depending on what I see and then the second part of anticipation is the ability to see and manipulate the defense uh it’s the ability to see Defenders uh with their hip turn hips turned a certain direction or their momentum taking them a certain direction and now I can throw the ball into a spot not waiting for my guy to get open but throw it to a spot because I’ve manipulated the defense and I’ve seen how the play has manipulated their their bodies where I can throw it ahead of time again look at pressure right the ability to release the ball earlier helps you to avoid pressure bad situations sacks and so anticipation to me is a huge element uh especially for guys like myself that weren’t the most athletic guys you know that didn’t make um you know extend the plays on the back end my gift was to be a able to extend the play on the front end to be able to extend an an offensive play call because I had more ways in which I could throw the football more times in which I could throw the football within the course of you know the the first element of the play and so those were where um you know for me uh you know where I was able to get away with certain things um you know lacking some of those things physically that some other quarterbacks have going to the game is not supposed to be stressful it’s supposed to be fun now maybe your team like the Panthers causes you a lot of stress but finding the logistics of going to the game is supposed to be easy and with game time it is game time with the NFL schedule here uh you can get yourself ready for the upcoming season find all the tickets for all the games that you want to attend to and save up to 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times in my career where I let the ball go and all I saw was you know the whatever the two and the three of the defensive back and the ball was going right between their numbers and the idea was well I trusted my guys on the outside and I had some great ones to throw to you especially in St Louis with Isaac and Tori their route running and and their ability to get in out of breaks was phenomenal and so we played really really well together but I would let the ball go right at the defensive back and then at the last second boom Here Comes Isaac or Here Comes Tor to to undercut that and you know and make the play but you know every once in a while there’s going to be time where I hit the defensive back in the numbers and people are going to be like what’s he doing he threw it right at the guy and you know all it takes is a little slip or you know a little Bend that’s a little deeper than you expect because that’s where anticipation comes in is trying to be on the same page with your receiver on a particular look where I expect him to be at this spot at this time and every once in a while that’s going to go against you now does that mean we throw it all out no because I think we made more plays uh playing that way but there will be times if you throw with anticipation that something happens on the back end that isn’t what you expect that it’s played a little bit differently a receiver does something a little bit differently on the top of the route and it’s going to lead to some interception so you always have to understand that when you watch anticipatory throwers and you have to look at all the elements not just what that happened at the end of the play but what happened throughout the play that maybe messed up that timing because it is so crucial if you’re GNA play that way I don’t know if you’ve experienced this but I’m hearing you describe this and I kind of laugh because I think about so many two a throws where like the Zone Defender almost like freezes he’s like oh it’s it’s coming right towards me and you think hey if he drives on that and he beats it to the spot he’s going to get it but they almost get just get like the deer in the headlights it’s coming right at me and then you see that receiver that swoops in exactly like you were talking about you’re exactly right because they’re not used to that and so when they’re sitting back there and the ball starts coming at them you’re right they want to kind of hang there and wait like okay it’s coming right at me I’m just going to make this interception and they kind of lose sight of what’s going on around them and that’s when boom you want your guy to kind of undercut them and uh and hit that spot perfectly but you’re you’re exactly right you know it’s it’s tough when a guy’s kind of a backpedal playing on the deep end of the field and the ball comes right at them for them to drive on the football they’re usually just waiting for it and that’s an element that we use uh in our favor from an offensive perspective and going back to you talking about the anticipation of of what direction a guy’s hips are turned or or his feet are moving to be able to understand that leverage and that transition time uh you mentioned Tori and Isaac and and that greatest show on Turf I know a lot of people kind of struggle with tu with compartmentalizing Tyreek and Jaylen wat and Mike McDaniel and this running game that had Raheem moard and Devon aan last year you mentioned Isaac and Tor but Marshall Faulk and a Hall of Fame head coach in dick ver and Orlando pce on the offensive line as a Hall of Famer even asakim and uh Ricky PRL you know guys that were really really good NFL players and then you go to Arizona and you have three 10,000 yard receivers in a single season for you I’d love your perspective on and you touched on a little bit trying to compartmentalize a player’s individual skills and weighing that out you know when we’re talking about potentially paying Tu a tongue of aloa top of Market contract some people really strugg with the idea of yeah but look at them in a vacuum but it doesn’t does does it really work in a vacuum or or do you feel like with what you experienced in Arizona and then St Louis two totally different situations with two totally different skill groups if you find players that compound the strengths of what you’re doing it’s really all all of the the sum of the whole versus the sum of the individual Parts yeah you know I I have said numerous times you know we we have this cliche that we talk about uh around NFL circles and um you know often times it’s a negative when we say oh he’s a system quarterback I’m a firm believer that everyone or most guys are system quarterbacks in other words they have things that they do really really well and so you want to cater your system or cater the guys around you to what your quarterback does well and you know that’s just you know it just makes sense that you’re going to do that you’ve got some guys that you know probably have the ability to extend and play beyond that but what I’m saying is is is you develop a system that plays to that quarterback the way he sees the game the way he likes to play the game great example for me is you mentioned it you know won two MVPs in St Louis um you know went back to the Super Bowl had three 10,000 yard receivers in Arizona but then there was a year I was in New York and in New York nobody thought I could play anymore you know everybody was like oh my God go this guy’s terrible what’s going on well the system there didn’t play to what I did we wanted to run the football play defense and throw it on third down when we had to and so it was completely away from my you know my skill set and my strengths as a quarterback so we I had to figure out a different way to play there but then put me back in a system that plays back to my strengths and I’m able to excel again and so um the the thing about like two or really any quarterb very few quarterbacks have gone from one place to another place and had great success you know if you look at the quarterbacks that have done that you know we’re talking about Hall of Fame type quarterbacks so the key is you got to look at Tua within the situation that you have you can’t you know put him in a vacuum and go well you know will he be this good everywhere will he be this good without Tyreek and without Jaylen and the answer is I don’t know but we don’t have to care about that all we have to care about is this is our situation this is the offense we’re going to run these are the players that we have is two of the right quarterback to pay for the next three four five years uh and commit to him believing that he gives us a great opportunity to be successful within this situation and you know I don’t know I I definitely think because of some of the things that I talked about with Tua and some of the shortcomings if he was playing in a different system if he was playing with some different guys um you know that that speed of those players and the scheme that they use allow that anticipation to be such a huge part of what they do so if he’s playing in another system where they don’t have those guys I don’t know if Tua is quite as successful as he’s been but that’s not the point the point is if we found the guy to fit our system and our players do we sign that guy to a big deal and that’s the question that you have to answer not take him off the team and say what if I mean you know we could all do that you know what what if I was placed into Tom Brady situation for 20 years in New England how many times would I have been in the Super Bowl how many times would pton Manny have been in the Super Bowl you know you go back to Joe Montana well if I would have played on those great San Francisco teams what would my care like we could do that all day long but none of it matters because it’s what do you do with your situation situation that you’re in and the fit that you have um and I think that holds true for the teams as well teams have to decide okay do we want to go forward with this guy does he fit what we’re trying to do and do we believe he can take us to the next step and the quarterbacks or the players have to do the same thing and so I I just I think it’s always unfair uh to try to take someone out of their situation and go well if he was over here would you pay him you know we’re doing the same thing with Brock pie um you know that he’s playing with all these great players around him and another thing I would argue all great quarterbacks or Hall of Fame quarterbacks played with great players like they had great players around them in different ways so you know that should never be a knock on anybody I mean go look at Joe Montana in the San Francisco uniform and the players he had around him and then you look at Brock pie and so we knock guys for things like that that just makes no sense if he’s in a perfect fit and it works for the team and the player then you have to consider paying that player um as the market shows you know I’m a firm believer that I would love to see all players you know kind of um you know slated where maybe they fit in the National Football League you know where Tua maybe isn’t a Patrick Mahomes yet or Lamar Jackson or or those types of guys so you know let’s fit him underneath it I think we all know how the league works is hey if you’re up you’re gonna try to set the market so the next guy can set the market and go from there um and so you know I think you have to consider with what Tua has has done and way he fits that system um you know given him that big Market type deal I I have two more questions for you and I know we’re getting into the economics of quarterbacks and you mentioned yourself and your style of play with anticipation not being necessarily the best athlete I think that’s one of the questions that a lot of dolphins fans have as far as if you do make the big Financial commitment you can’t pay everybody forever uh and as to it not the biggest or the fastest or the strongest arm throwers people question okay what’s the sustainability look like after this current iteration of his Supporting Cast has to undergo some change I would love to hear from you as far as early in your career you have Hall of Famers all around you you mentioned the transition to New York with a different scheme uh and then you go to Arizona what was your maturation like as a quarterback having that kind of influence of so many Hall of Fame caliber players around you into as you transitioned into New York and Arizona how did you change as a player um well I mean sometimes your mindset has to change you know I think a great example is uh I always tell people open for you know Tory H and Isaac Bruce was different than open for Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Balden and so that was part of my transition is I was used to seeing space you know quickness and explosiveness out of Breaks by the guys in St Louis so I could see space and and that me open for me in St Louis when I went to Arizona it was different it was about positioning I had two big receivers so it wasn’t the same as throwing to a Tyreek Hill that’s going to create this separation because of his speed but it didn’t mean that I couldn’t use those strengths that I used in St Louis in Arizona as well um and so that becomes such a big part of the maturation process is realizing you know every player is not going to be Marshall faul or Isaac Bruce or Tory Holt but it doesn’t mean you can’t still be successful and you still can’t play in a similar type fashion I still played with anticipation right I still played you know with those things and allowed accuracy to be my greatest strength it was it just looked a little bit differently than it did uh you know in St Louis and so that becomes a part of the process is is figuring out what your strengths are and how to use those strengths with different guys you know another thing for me was uh was understanding how to use the guys within an offense um you know that maybe I didn’t understand quite as much when I was in St Louis I was young and a and now it’s like okay I got different players what do we need to do with these different players what do they do well you know what are their strengths what routes do they run really really well and how does that play into now what I do as a quarterback so that’s part of the maturation process is you know learning different guys learning yourself to the point uh where you understand even though it might look a little bit different or we may have to play a little different scheme how can I still be successful because I don’t have to do something dramatically different what we did in New York was dramatically different from what I was as a quarterback now we still won games and that’s what I had to mature and figure out was okay you’re not going to win games throwing the ball for 300 yards and three touchdowns a game that’s not what we’re going to do here you got to learn how to win as a leader in making those plays in critical situations and and not making mistakes uh more than making plays so I matured in so many different ways but I think the biggest thing is and kind of you’re talking about is you transition from you know one I’ll say regime or or one you know it’s not really going to be an era but but period of time to The Next Period of time when you’ve got different players around you and you may have to change what uh what schematically you’re doing you have to understand okay who are the guys I’m I’m playing with how do my strengths connect with them and then those strengths that have always made me successful I have to keep doing those things I have to stay in that mode how do I stay in that mode when I’m doing it with different guys and when I’m playing with other players that may have different strengths than the guys you know ear early in my career and and that’s always a part of the process you know Tom Brady I think is always a great example of this is that he played with a lot of different guys you know I mean he plays with the West Welker who’s great in his own right but he’s completely different than the Randy mosses and so he’s got different periods where he plays with different guys you know sometimes it’s the tight ends you know groon down the middle of the field and so the ability to evolve your skill set to the players you have around me is always key for longevity and consistency at the quarterback position and you know there’s no question you know if when Tyreek is gone uh you know a guy that has speed like we’ve rarely seen in this uh you know in this um you know League when he’s gone it’s going to be different throwing the football to other guys that don’t you know create fear in the defense that don’t get the same sort of Separation so that will be the maturation process for you know whether it’s this offense as a whole uh or Tua you know as different guys come in and out of the lineup and the last one if I may bring this conversation full circle you talked about some of the shortcomings that you saw this past season and so much of their bread and butter is establishing the wide Zone running game building their play action passing off of that getting horizontal flow in the second level to create throwing Windows to throw over the middle of the field and when it worked it was great and when it didn’t work they didn’t have that other pitch to kind of come back on to uh they’ve kind of dropped directly or indirectly some bread crumbs this offseason Odell Beckham when he did his introductory press conference talked about he talked with Mike McDaniel about the struggles that they had when teams bracketed both Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Wadd on third Downs Mike McDaniel was asked about jonu Smith who they added at tight end and said anytime you can get a player like that who with the ball in his hands can make you pay when you get drop seven and they play with a lot of depth and you get a big physical guy to kind of run with the ball in his hands uh it’s a nice added element to the offense were there any other elements side of pressure plans and play designs to to kind of promote deeper progression passing that stood that stand out to you that you’d maybe like to see that can’t necessarily be solved by oh we got a different player to be the third wide receiver or the deao tight end yeah I mean I think so much of it and it’s always the give and take you know I see the same thing happen at times in San Francisco and the same thing at times in La you know they all come from that same kind of background that Shanahan background where so much of what they do in the past game is predicated off of motions and play action where we’re going to distort the defense with our scheme which allows us to get our number one read more often what I would love to see is just them continuing to expand their their passing game to the point where it’s not just the scheme um opening up guys but the actual play design will create open guys for Tua so to me it it’s better complimentary pieces to that original play that they’re going to run you know they’re going to run kind of the the quickin or or the skinny post over and over again um you know throwing it in uh inside the numbers but in by the hash and they’re going to try to hit that over and over in a game and a lot of it comes you know you motion a guy you know fast motion a guy out you’re trying to pull that Lineback a little bit so you can throw it by behind him or the play action pull that guy up so you can throw it behind him on that skinny post but you know there are things that say okay who are we throwing this skinny post off of we’re throwing it off the outside backer well let’s make sure that we overload that outside linebacker zone so if that throw isn’t open two feeds feels really comfortable going oh that guy took that away this guy must be open and it speeds up the process of you know getting from one to two it makes you more comfortable going from one to two because everything is a little bit more connected with that timing and that anticipation that Tua wants to play with so he’s not forcing that first throw and he feels more comfortable playing the game and allow the game to come to him and that’s when I think we can truly see does Tua have that element in his game does he have the ability to process one to two to three and do it quickly and understand what he’s seeing defensively as opposed to just coming back and trying to see hey can I make that throw to the receiver let the defense dictate that and that to me is where you’re always going to be more successful as a quarterback knowing hey this guy can only take away one of these two guys if I read it right we’re gonna have success more often than me trying to throw it around him and see if I can fit it into my first receiver which sometimes feels like um you know the design of the goal of the offense or or Tua Kurt Warner Pro Football Hall of Famer NFL network analyst this was absolutely wonderful conversation I cannot thank you enough for taking some time out of your day and joining me Kurt thank you so much you got it happy to be on and that is going to do it for us here on this episode of Locked on dolphins Kyle Krabs joined by Kurt Warner to talk in depth about the Dolphins their offense Tua all things Miami an outstanding conversation not that I would have expected anything less from an NFL network analyst but also a Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback who played the game in some ways and with some players around him that had some parallels to what we are seeing in Miami I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation you can find us on YouTube or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast make it a great rest of your day Fin’s up I am out of here

The Miami Dolphins’ starting quarterback has no shortage of opinions available to him across the NFL. Hall of Fame quarterback and NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner recently weighed in with his and today joins Locked On Dolphins to take a deep dive into all things Tua and Miami. Kurt shares his perspective on:

– Tua’s perception as a system quarterback in Miami
– What Tua’s evolution can look like based on Kurt’s own experiences
– What exactly is “anticipation” and how Tua uses it so effectively
– How the Dolphins can unlock more answers in their offensive structure
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