[Goold] #stlcards are NOT picking up the 2025 options for Kyle Gibson, Lance Lynn, or Keynan Middleton.
October 31, 2024
[Goold] #stlcards are NOT picking up the 2025 options for Kyle Gibson, Lance Lynn, or Keynan Middleton.
39 comments
This is good.
I did think there was a chance we saw Gibson option picked up. Just because he is a great clubhouse guy.
Good news. Now let’s make some trades.
Rotation led Mikolas, Matz, and Fedde is gonna net us a top 5 pick lmao
Gibson will be a nice pick-up for some team. I wish we would have kept him and used him as trade bait for the deadline next season.
Not retaining Gibson is a mistake. This move has absolutely nothing to do with freeing up assets to pursue a better player or to open up spot for a prospect. This is purely about saving money for the sake of saving money
You need average innings from somebody. I can think of absolutely no downside to paying Gibson 12 mil to do this for one year
I would have kept Middleton around but still overall a net positive
Remember how giddy we were to have the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, and Carpenter money off our books and nothing happened? These savings are going into a new Dewey’s pizza recipe, not the Cardinals roster
I can’t really criticize these decisions but we’re going to have a rough rotation next year. This is starting to feel like a bit more than a soft rebuild. Someone has to throw innings. Mikolas is one of the worst starters in MLB and the rest of the guys are injury prone / untested (assuming we end up trading one or both of Gray / Fedde etc).
Gibson’s innings would’ve been nice in a rotation of young guys. Guess they value that spot on the 40-man more
Cardinals legend Keynan Middleton
Not surprised at Lynn and Middleton, but I am at Gibson. I thought he’d be back.
Let the kids play
Pour one out for the #1 Kyle Gibson fan (me)
I’m pretty surprised by this. I don’t think I have an opinion about it, we need to wait and see how their larger plan shakes out.
Weird, I thought Gibson would have been cheap enough.
Who exactly do they think are going to be the 6th, 7th and 8th pitchers when any of the “starters” get hurt anyway? Because they’re going to get hurt. The Dodgers just won the WS while proving you need basically 10 ML ready starters for a full season when dealing with injuries, and the Cardinals have run the last 3 years acting like you can get away with 3 or 4.
Keynan Middleton Cardinal Legend
I guess we’ll have to find new 35+ year old pitchers who can pitch to contact at 91 mph now
Fine with this, but surprised at Gibson. They should call it what it is… full rebuild.
Who cares. Watching the billion $ payroll bowl/world series makes you realize how fucked this league is for 90% of the teams involved. Has been and no name pitching isn’t going to change anything.
I’m fine with this. They’re already going to have to replace Fedde’s, Mikolas’s, (and “Matz’s”) rotation spots going into 2026. And then Gray is gone after 2026. If 2025 is going to be a lost season anyways, you’ve got to start getting a lot of looks for all our AAA pitchers, even if they struggle.
good night sweet Bronco
Thanks for the memories! I wonder what Lance is going to do.
Wow are we actually changing things up? Lets gooo
So rotation next year is what? Mikolas, Fedde, Pallante, McGreevy, Matz/random FA?
Make The Dewitts Great Again🤦🏻
Surprised that one of Gibson or Lynn wasn’t retained. But not upset by it.
So rotation looks something like:
1. Gray (assuming we don’t trade him)
2. Pallante
3. McCreevy
4. Fedde
5. Mikolas
6. Graceffo/Mathews (Memphis shuttle)
Tank szn baby
#12in26
I am fine letting these guys go. Maybe keeping Gibson would have been fine as well. He did a decent job as a 4/5 guy imo.
I’m kind of surprised they didn’t keep Gibson, but this implies, to me, that they are planning on Matz and Mikolas being in the rotation next year.
I know Gibson gets shit on a lot, but he and Mikolas ate innings like monsters
going to miss gibby. he seemed like a GREAT dude and an awesome clubhouse presence.
Make lynn pitching coach. The man was brought up by THE Dave Duncan. We NEED his fire
I had as much faith in Gibson in the 2nd half of the season as anyone on the staff. I’m kinda of surprised they are letting him go.
I hope Lynn pitches a 190 innings with a sub 3 ERA for Milwaukee
People bitching at the Dodgers should go look at their front office page…..They list everyone and it’s like 1.5 web pages long….They basically have positions as follows, Assistant Associate for Kinesiology and Advanced Data Analytics Integration…..They have great players, but their front office is top notch.
Not keeping Gibson is a pretty good signal that they’re gonna field a bad baseball team next year. Lynn: old, fat, knee giving out, we got more out of him that I for one expected but you can see why they decided against. Gibson, you keep if you have any notion of contending in 2025.
Invest the savings in the S&P, use compound interest to get free agents in 2050. easy
The Cardinals are at least 5 years away from digging out of this mess they’re in
39 comments
This is good.
I did think there was a chance we saw Gibson option picked up. Just because he is a great clubhouse guy.
Good news. Now let’s make some trades.
Rotation led Mikolas, Matz, and Fedde is gonna net us a top 5 pick lmao
Gibson will be a nice pick-up for some team. I wish we would have kept him and used him as trade bait for the deadline next season.
Not retaining Gibson is a mistake. This move has absolutely nothing to do with freeing up assets to pursue a better player or to open up spot for a prospect. This is purely about saving money for the sake of saving money
You need average innings from somebody. I can think of absolutely no downside to paying Gibson 12 mil to do this for one year
I would have kept Middleton around but still overall a net positive
Remember how giddy we were to have the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, and Carpenter money off our books and nothing happened? These savings are going into a new Dewey’s pizza recipe, not the Cardinals roster
I can’t really criticize these decisions but we’re going to have a rough rotation next year. This is starting to feel like a bit more than a soft rebuild. Someone has to throw innings. Mikolas is one of the worst starters in MLB and the rest of the guys are injury prone / untested (assuming we end up trading one or both of Gray / Fedde etc).
Gibson’s innings would’ve been nice in a rotation of young guys. Guess they value that spot on the 40-man more
Cardinals legend Keynan Middleton
Not surprised at Lynn and Middleton, but I am at Gibson. I thought he’d be back.
Let the kids play
Pour one out for the #1 Kyle Gibson fan (me)
I’m pretty surprised by this. I don’t think I have an opinion about it, we need to wait and see how their larger plan shakes out.
Weird, I thought Gibson would have been cheap enough.
Who exactly do they think are going to be the 6th, 7th and 8th pitchers when any of the “starters” get hurt anyway? Because they’re going to get hurt. The Dodgers just won the WS while proving you need basically 10 ML ready starters for a full season when dealing with injuries, and the Cardinals have run the last 3 years acting like you can get away with 3 or 4.
Keynan Middleton Cardinal Legend
I guess we’ll have to find new 35+ year old pitchers who can pitch to contact at 91 mph now
Fine with this, but surprised at Gibson. They should call it what it is… full rebuild.
Who cares. Watching the billion $ payroll bowl/world series makes you realize how fucked this league is for 90% of the teams involved. Has been and no name pitching isn’t going to change anything.
I’m fine with this. They’re already going to have to replace Fedde’s, Mikolas’s, (and “Matz’s”) rotation spots going into 2026. And then Gray is gone after 2026. If 2025 is going to be a lost season anyways, you’ve got to start getting a lot of looks for all our AAA pitchers, even if they struggle.
good night sweet Bronco
Thanks for the memories! I wonder what Lance is going to do.
Wow are we actually changing things up? Lets gooo
So rotation next year is what? Mikolas, Fedde, Pallante, McGreevy, Matz/random FA?
Make The Dewitts Great Again🤦🏻
Surprised that one of Gibson or Lynn wasn’t retained. But not upset by it.
So rotation looks something like:
1. Gray (assuming we don’t trade him)
2. Pallante
3. McCreevy
4. Fedde
5. Mikolas
6. Graceffo/Mathews (Memphis shuttle)
Tank szn baby
#12in26
I am fine letting these guys go. Maybe keeping Gibson would have been fine as well. He did a decent job as a 4/5 guy imo.
I’m kind of surprised they didn’t keep Gibson, but this implies, to me, that they are planning on Matz and Mikolas being in the rotation next year.
I know Gibson gets shit on a lot, but he and Mikolas ate innings like monsters
going to miss gibby. he seemed like a GREAT dude and an awesome clubhouse presence.
Make lynn pitching coach. The man was brought up by THE Dave Duncan. We NEED his fire
I had as much faith in Gibson in the 2nd half of the season as anyone on the staff. I’m kinda of surprised they are letting him go.
I hope Lynn pitches a 190 innings with a sub 3 ERA for Milwaukee
People bitching at the Dodgers should go look at their front office page…..They list everyone and it’s like 1.5 web pages long….They basically have positions as follows, Assistant Associate for Kinesiology and Advanced Data Analytics Integration…..They have great players, but their front office is top notch.
Not keeping Gibson is a pretty good signal that they’re gonna field a bad baseball team next year. Lynn: old, fat, knee giving out, we got more out of him that I for one expected but you can see why they decided against. Gibson, you keep if you have any notion of contending in 2025.
Invest the savings in the S&P, use compound interest to get free agents in 2050. easy
The Cardinals are at least 5 years away from digging out of this mess they’re in