Can Tua Tagovailoa IMPROVE His Play & SAVE Mike McDaniel’s Job with the Miami Dolphins??
[Music] What’s up ladies and gentlemen and welcome back to the Dolphins Collective. Listen man, this is going to be a good one today. Um Dougley Durong could not be here but it’s okay. He’s taking care of some business. is a great reason. But he can’t wait to get back on Thursday. Omar, I know. I know where you’re going, Omar. Be nice. Be nice. All right. We’re above this. We’re above this. Yeah, we’re above this cuz I heard Omar was showing off on on the radio this morning, you know, couldn’t couldn’t help himself. How you doing, Omar? You good? I’m all right. I listen, I’ve even I’ve even agreed to let him join the radio show on on Thursday to air out our grievances. But it’s not just my grievances. It’s my I I my grievances on behalf of all of my media contingents. Why can’t we just Why just can’t we just get along? Can’t we just get along? Hey, well, we’ll find out whenever um y’all collab. That’ll be interesting. Listen hard with don’t I work don’t I specifically work very hard to make sure the media contingent all gets along everybody plays nice absolutely you are everybody welcoming everybody with open arms and everybody play nice man we could just we could all just get along in this world this is true this is true if everybody chooses to so everybody you know they got to speak for theirel so but um Allan man what’s going on with you. How you doing, man? I’m doing all right. I’m doing all right. Same old, same old. Plugging away. Got to know got a daughter graduating from high school. Right. Way to go, Sarah. Great job. I know, right? We got to get our act together. That’s beautiful, man. But listen, ladies and gentlemen, we know what you’re here for tonight. Um, tonight is a special night for me. Um, because because we talk about Jaylen Ramsay. Yeah. Omar Kelly. Oh, R. Kelly, pick the topic for tonight. Yes. I honestly feel like I’m going to be tag team today and I don’t feel that it’s appropriate that I don’t have my tag team partner. You know, with WWE wrestling ring where where where it’s like you you in the ring and then all of a sudden you get jumped by two people. I feel like that’s that’s what’s coming my way. Um, but let’s discuss more importantly Jaylen Ramsay who sent out five who’s clearly talking about his number. Yeah. Or or the Panther. The Florida Panthers are going to beat Carolina in five because Is it June 1st in five days? Yes, TD. That’s what we’re getting at. Come on, man. Come on. Come on, TD. Let’s got to be quicker than that, man. Oh, I know. I was just I was just curious, you know. I ain’t know where Omar mind was on that. But um yeah, about Ramsay though, what do you think? Um is he going to be a dolphin? Bye. No, I think I got the finality that he was done probably when we were talking to uh coach Weaver and all of the defensive coaches. They were pretty much, yes, this is over. It’s, you know, this is irreconcilable. It’s not, you know, the toothpaste is out the tube. It’s not going back in the jar. Um, and it’s mutual. I know that for a fact. It’s mutual regarding the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel. I think this is more a Mike McDaniel thing. Um, and Jaylen Ramsay. They they they just don’t feel like this relationship is is mutually beneficial to both. And so, the Dolphins are going to do the best that they can to move on from it. Now the question is Pupard, what do you think is a realistic take of what they can get back? Okay, two quick things before I address that. Number one is Anthony Weaver said he was a good player for us. That was if it wasn’t our done. Um and then number two, I totally forgot you just had bubbles. Did you see your bubbles? You went like this or something. Yeah. Um I totally forgot what was my second thing was to answer your question. What can the Dolphins get for him? He freezes. Oh, and I know what the other thing I wanted to say is I know some fans are like, “Why can’t the Dolphins hold him to his contract and make him play or not play for them?” Because ouch my back. Oh, I got a hamstring injury. Remember, you mentioned it today on the on your radio show, Omar. Uh, that hamstring injury sure healed quickly after he got his extension last year. Yeah, man. It’s gonna be the same BS. It’s not, especially a player of that prominence, it’s counterproductive to have him on the roster if he absolutely doesn’t want to be there on top of the fact that McDaniel doesn’t want him there either. And and I don’t want to speak out of turn for Jaylen because I think Jaylen does a well good enough job speaking for himself. Um, but I just believe that there’s fear and concern that Jaylen could poison the well and amongst the Dolphins players and organization. And I just feel like they feel like it’s better that they go just keep the water as pure as possible, giving themselves a chance to have success because I’ve been in those situations where there are players who can poison oil. When Joey Porter basically said what everybody was thinking with Cam Cameron and said basically, you don’t know what the hell you doing. Uh it was pretty much over um in in in a team meeting. So, you think Ramsey did something similar to that? I don’t think he did anything similar to that. I just think that’s that’s the that’s the fear. That’s that’s the concern that there’s a better example than that, Omar. Uh a name you’re very a name you’re very familiar with as somebody who was kind of kind of toxic for the team. Initials BM, played wide receiver out of the University of Central Florida. Brandon, you you can say his name. Yeah. No, no. I I was going to Brandon Marshall who was one of those who was like one of the most toxic individuals in the world. But go on, continue. No, no. Correct. And he was toxic toxic from the Dolphins is why he played for eight teams despite being one of the most gifted wide receivers of the of the 2000s. To answer your question finally, I know you don’t want to hear it. Who hold on. Who did Brandon Whose Well did Brandon poison outside of Chad Henny? Well, don’t don’t you tell me he wasn’t toxic for the entire locker room? Come on. I don’t think he was toxic for the entire locker room. And then you know my position with Brandon. Yes. I think he was toxic for Chad Henny because who’s your starting quarterback at that time? Not exactly. Yeah. But he wasn’t he wasn’t good. Now the fact that you were beefing and had absolute war with Chad Henny on a regular basis. Does that probably pollute the waters for Chad Henny? Yes. But Matt Moore and I I’m I’m gonna stand on this and I don’t think you’re very far off. Matt War Moore was a superior quarterback to Chad Hen. Oh, no. I agree. But you have your wide receiver who’s got a got a throw in his direction that’s off the mark and he’s like I’m sorry that that’s just bad for the whole team. Anyway, let me go back to the the question. It needs to be answered. You I know you don’t want to hear it, Omar. Unfortunately, I think you also smart enough to realize that’s a fact. If the the do the Dolphins willingness to absorb some salary will improve what they get. If they decide to play hard ball and say, “No, we’re not paying any of his salary.” Good luck getting better than a five. Uh, you know, and it’s not my money. So, not mine either. I should not care, but I do care. And after you basically encouraged me to sign that contract extension when I had already paid him a massive ro signing or roster bonus the previous year and now you’re going to trade him take a cap hit. I already paid him $4 million this year and then you’re gonna ask me to take on money to and send it to another team to pay his salary. I would fire everybody. Yeah, but he could play the game, Omar. I mean, the injury game. Why? I mean, we’re going to sit here and have this drama. We all This isn’t a year of drama. We cannot afford any drama. Well, hold on, hold on. Let Let’s put this in perspective. Let’s just say the Rams asked me to pay $5 million of his salary. A rookie caught for a fourth round pick. If it’s a fifth round pick, I mean, if it’s a third round pick, I might consider it. Day two pick, I might consider it. I’m paying $5 million for a day two pick, which I don’t think is too steep a price. A fourth round pick, I am literally giving you $5 million and the m and then I that’s the money that I would pay for that fourth round pick. Why am I paying twice for the for the rate of something that like really is it is it that serious? But that’s going to be you you know damn well that’s going to be the negotiation the Dolphins are having with other teams is how much are you willing to pay? What are you giving willing to give up for them? And the fact that the Dolphins messed up last summer is irrelevant to what’s going on now. That’s they that mistake’s already been made. They can’t do anything other than go like this. Oh god, we got to do this. Sure. Go ahead. Go ahead. Not a bad player. So I don’t know if mistake it like I I I can’t do that. I can’t I just willingly cannot do that. And I’m comfortable with him sitting his if you want to if you want to have a red shirt season and just cash your paycheck and take this to another year, I’m calling your bluff. [Music] And by the way, no, they didn’t have to do this. Sorry. Um they didn’t have to do this last year because they had him under under team control for a couple years. I agree with you. Okay, that just that that was the mistake. But however, the culture of this sport is especially when you’re an elite player, you’re not playing that next year. You’re not playing this year without guaranteed money the next year. It already had redone his contract after they acquired him in 2023. No, no, no. But he didn’t have any guaranteed money left, which is why he went back to the table to get guaranteed money for this year, and he’s wants to do it again to get guaranteed money for next year. And I I get you, but and and that’s what that’s that’s this is why you don’t do business with mercenaries. And we’ve we should have learned our lesson within Dominican Sue and Brandon Marshall and every merc. But you know, when you when you when you when you can’t build from within, there you go. This is what you got to do. Good point. For me, it’s um you know, getting off staying on the position, but off of Ramsay, you know, I sit back and I was thinking about this situation and I come to a realization. The Miami Dolphins, you know how we always said we haven’t found quarterback stability since Marino. The truth of the matter is we haven’t had long-term cornerback stability. What’s long term? What’s long term? Longterm is actually being here more than like four years. Like having a long-term career with Miami. Anything longer than four years in the NFL is a lifetime. I Yeah, but but you you look for certain players like that and and at that position you want a pair. We’ve been always trying to go after a pair. This isn’t the first time we’re we’re we’ve been in this situation. remember when we drafted Shawn Smith and um Vonte Davis? Okay. And that and Will Davis and who was the quarterback that played with Will Davis? Jamar Taylor. Can I interrupt one quick very quickly, Tony? And I apologize about this, but you mentioned Vonte Davis. Today, by the way, would have been his 38th birthday. RIP RIP Vonte Davis. I’m sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Um it it just it amazes me the situation that we put ourselves in, especially in that position. And then we have to go buy the mercenaries. We talk about the Brent Grimes of the world. I mean, the Byron Jones of the world. Like, we This isn’t anything new. Why can’t we draft develop or just just keep somebody longterm and compete at the highest level in play? Well, I’m not going to get into the playoffs. I mean, can we do that at any position? You like you like being picky over here. Um, you being picky over here about quarterbacks. But you know what? I actually think I actually think Chris Greer evaluates, selects, drafts quarterbacks better than any other position position in the NFL because of one guy. It don’t It don’t matter. It don’t matter. Tell me any other position he’s had three hits on. Yeah, but to to say better than anybody in the NFL, I think they’ve done well with D. No, I didn’t say better than anybody in the NFL. I’m saying that’s what he does the best. D tackles it done well because he hit one time Devon Gotacha in the fifth round and I I know there were circumstances involved but it’s still a fifth round Christian Devon Gotcha Z are we crediting him with Zack Cer that’s a waiver claim it’s not draft okay it’s good scouting it can I bring up something real quick here I want I want you guys your thoughts on this Dolphins have all their picks signed except for Joan Jonas Savayia because he’s a second round pick because the Houston Texans pissed off the entire NFL by fully guaranteeing their second round wide receiver Jaden Higgins contract. First time in NFL history. The day after that happened, Cleveland signed its second round pick to a fully guaranteed contract. That was May 9th. Since then, not a single second round pick has signed. And it doesn’t take a whole lot of connecting the dots to figure that every agent now wants that fully guaranteed contract for second round picks and teams obviously don’t want to do it and they’re going to have to. Is that what they’re going to have to thinking the conclusion is going to be? Yes. Because that’s just what we’re going to now. You get a sprinkle of it, then you get a spoonful and next thing you know that’s the full course meal. The second round picks are about to start getting their contracts guaranteed. within four years, I can guarantee you almost every second round pick will be guaranteed. And and what’s the problem here? You know, I I I like it. I like it for the player and the or and the or now, if you want to offset that owners, go to the league and say, “Give me a fifth year option on those, too.” Do do you um It’s not in the CBA. It’s not collecting. I know. I’m just saying there’s something to But you know in the NBA there’s nothing in their language ma and Major League Baseball there’s nothing in their language that says the contracts have to be fully guaranteed. It is just culturally what is the norm and it got that way over the years. The NFL is not about that life. And no, you no, they they they I don’t know what what motivated them to give second round picks a guaranteed contract cuz every contract in every contract in the draft is is fully slotted. It’s like you there’s no wiggle room for even a dollar. So I don’t get it. But once one does it, that’s the same thing. I I was always disappointed that Kirk Cousins was the first quarterback to get a fully guaranteed contract. Obviously, Deshun Watson followed him and that turned out to be a massive mistake. But that didn’t become a trend. It did not become a trend when Kirk Cousins did it. And if it had become a trend, then it would have snowballed and kept continued to go domino one after the other. I remember this was back in the day, back back in the day. It was the the top linebackers, Bobby Wagner, Levante David, um I forget who else was a top linebacker. Oh, the the the kid from Carolina. They were getting their new deals. Keley, they were getting their new deals. And I’m friends with one of their agents. And I and I was going back and forth with him, helping him with his negotiations with the team. and saying, “Okay, if this is, you know, going back and forth, this is this is what medium real media members do.” Um, and I remember proposing to him, okay, this team is particularly frugal. They don’t give out a lot of bonuses. How about you propose getting the most money for that position in a I forget what the length of the deal fully guaranteed and you would become and the team would not have to give you a massive signing bonus, but you would become the first player who would have a fully guaranteed contract in the NFL a as a defensive player. and he thought about it for a minute and it was a good deal that we were proposing and not we but Kim was proposing but discussing this out and then he came and he was like you know what I just can’t do that and you know why I can’t do that because without the fake money all the other agents would use it against me and it would impact how I got business and how I did business and unfortunately that’s the mindset of these agents that’s the mindset of this sport. That’s a mindset of this culture. And it’s so counterproductive. Like we all know the fake money in these deals. We all It’s It’s ridiculous. I I And And you know, everybody knows you only count the guaranteed money. Christian Wilkins has three years of guaranteed money for $24 million. I doubt he’ll ever see a penny of that rest of his contract unless he re renegotiates his deal. That’s just the culture of this sport. But everybody needs these fake ridiculous deals and I just think it’s so unhealthy for the sport. Well, here here’s a few things to consider in that though. Like um well, first off, the Kirk Cousins thing. Kirk Cousins is different because his fully guarantees were a whole bunch of one twoyear deals. No, he got in a three. He had to get tagged twice to get one fully guaranteed deal. Did was it three or four? No, it was four years. Four years fully guaranteed deal from uh the the from the Minnesota Vikings. I thought it was three. Okay. Well, that makes sense cuz I know he kept living off of the one then the one and I thought he had a two in there, but okay. Um no, as far as this guaranteed money, the fake money, how much does that factory in on a second round pick making? Come on, look at how much they make. It’s not like this big massive impact. You know, you know what is interesting about second second round picks and their contracts, they’re not eligible for playtime escalators. So, I remember there was one year that Durham Smite, even though he was a lesser player than Mike Gassiki, Durham Smite made like twice as much as Mike Gassiki because of his playing time escalator. And because Mike Singer was a second round pick, he wasn’t eligible for it. Um, and and I remember asking Durham about it and he’s like, “Yeah, that’s the big joke in the in the room.” Like, you know, I I make way more money than you like, uh, because you know how they play around. Um, and it it and and so maybe that’s what some of these agents are fighting for where everybody but first round picks and second round picks get playing time escalators, but that’s because their base salaries are so low. So, for instance, Kater Koh, I don’t remember what he was making, but he he had he had a he got significant raises because his playing time escalators. M um you play more time, you get you get bumped up in s salary. I don’t know the the the math math of it, but performance-based pay Javon Holland wasn’t eligible for Javon Holland being a four-year starter, I mean three-year starter, wasn’t eligible for any raises, you know, because of his playing time. And so maybe that’s what these agents are fighting against. I don’t really know. Um, I just haven’t really looked into it, but or or asked around about it, but and the fail rate the fail rate on second round picks is high enough that that the owners are gonna they’re gonna back against this idea fully guaranteed. But Chris Greer might as well give Jonah the fully guaranteed. Even if you’re not good, he keep you around. No, even if you wave a second round pick, somebody’s going to claim them and pick up the contract anyway. So, I I I agree with you. I don’t really know what the harm is. Yeah. Uh if he’s a second round pick who can’t play and he’s got he’s got a well no Dolphins without will have paid all the signing the You traded up for this guy. I mean you wanted him. You believe in him. So you traded up for Liam you trade away draft picks for Liamberg and he ain’t gone yet. So his contract starting to be fully guaranteed. So if Liam can make it and we get every penny he’s due. Come on man. What we talking about? Listen. All right, man. C can we transition now, please? Yes. Hold on. Let’s see if we got other topics to discuss before we uh but they they they’re on field. Offense versus defense. Isaiah Johnson made a nice little interception. We don’t know which quarterback, which we suspect. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Hold on. Wait. In fairness, they might not show regardless of who it was that regardless. In fairness, when is Johnson running with the Come on. Come on, TD. Huh? That’s the embarrassing part about it. Stop it. Stop it. I I’d have to really dissect who else was on the Omar. Who are Yeah. Omar, who are the ones at this point, though at cornerback. Yeah, man. That was a equal opportunity right there. By the way, you know, hold on. You know, based on Chris history, Cam Smith is going to be with once cuz he should be. That’s he gives ref he gives high picks every possible opportunity. Yeah. But Omar, even at camp, you see those guys rotate, man. And and it’s not just ones ones all the time. Those those guys shifting in and out, especially in the secondary. Okay, we’ll see because I I I watched um Fangio. I watched Fangio pulling um what’s his name? To the side getting in him between plays. You you’d want him as head coach, wouldn’t you before? You’d want Big Fanjo as a head coach. I don’t know. I mean, it didn’t work out in Denver, but Sorry. It it didn’t work out in Denver because they had co remember when we he was there for three years. It wasn’t like just one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he didn’t have a horrible resume and No, it was middling. Fanio I don’t think would be good for this team. This team has a lot of those guys where you can’t talk to the new age people guys like that. I feel like this team has a lot of those and it just I just feel like it’ll be a train wreck. You always want to go the opposite direction. Whenever you whenever you make a hire. Whenever you make a fire and a hire, you go in the opposite direction. That’s the history of this organization. Yeah. The next the next head coach is going to be Mr. Tough. I I you know, I’m I’m going to get it my way. Do it my way. You going to listen to me. Uh like it’s going to be my way and the highway. And then what what next coach? We got a savior in Miami. Uh c can tua tagalora improve his play? Very nice segue. Can Tua Tagalo improve his play and save Mike McDaniel’s job with the Miami Dolphins? Before we dive in, we want you to know that this stream is being powered by Bet US. Omar is ready. Y’all receive a 150% sign up bonus. So your first deposit up to $2,000 using co code YouTube150. take advantage of that opportunity. Supporting our sponsors is supporting the channel. As you can see, Bet US already has the projected starting lineup, but there’s one problem in the middle on the defense about almost down to the bottom, but four away. Jaylen Ramsay subject to be traded. We just talked about that. If you’re just tuning in, make sure you go back and watch the full replay. But these are our projected starting. This is our projected starting lineup. Guys, take a look at this for a second. Do you see anything that can change here? You got to move us to the side box, TD, so the people can see us. Um I’m like you guys at least figure that out. Uh yeah. Um Ramsey. Uh uh no. I I I think I think I think every spot in the secondary is up for grabs. Not really, but really. I mean, if a young rookie comes in here, if Patrick McMorris comes in here and balls and pulls down an interception every other day, I’m pretty sure he’s going to end up with a starting spot. Am I incorrect, Pupar? Nope. You’re absolutely right. Uh Kater, this this is assuming that you know they open in a 344 as opposed to Nickel. Nickel then you would have Kater in the slot and then two two starting quarterbacks. Cam Smith outside maybe. Um no I I would think Cam Smith and Storm Duck are the lead leaders in the pack house. They’ve got the most playing time. I agree. Um Storm Duck is a studious player that obviously leapfrog Cam Smith on the depth chart before Cam Smith suffered an injury. Uh, Campsmith eventually got got back his starting spot because of injury. Uh, fair and equal competition, any man’s game. And I include Isaiah Johnson in that because I liked Isaiah Johnson better than Storm Duck in training camp. And I I put my name on it. Um, so I like I like Matri and he wound up going on IR today. All three of them were good. And to me of the three, I think I might have had duck I’m gonna Maya Koopa here. I might have had duck three because I like Isaiah Johnson as well. I thought all three were pretty good. Yes. And I know you like Jason Matri. I I look at he’s a he’s a nickel and and I looked at that as they didn’t have any confident backup nickels. So it was easier for him. Not not to say that, you know, the boundary guys on the third team were playing against anybody, but this is going to be interesting to see. You know, honestly, probably Ethan Bonner was Ethan Bonner. You talk to these quarterbacks, I mean, talk to these wide receivers, Ethan Bonner is their guy from Tyreek to Waddle to some of the older cornerbacks. Um, they like Ethan Bonner because he actually they feel his presence, but the coaches clearly don’t feel that way because he he got very little playing time last year. I think that’s discrimination. What about what about the Bonito Jones or Jordan Phillips? Who wins the job? Benito Jones is going to win that job. Benito Jones is going to win that and hopefully he stays healthy. Uh he battled with some injuries last year. They have a high opinion of Benito Jones. Um but he’s he’s just a known tackle and in fact Jordan Phillips is in my mind the smallest of the newcomers. I’m putting Zeke Biggers as the backup with Bonito Jones and I would have Jordan Phillips as a primary backup for the defensive tackle. You disagree? I completely disagree with you. Phillips played more played more no sackle at Maryland than Biggers did at Georgia Tech. I I know a nose tackle’s body, but Jordan Phillips does not have a no tackle body. Lot more than Biggers is too tall. Bigger is too tall, but he got that trunk, baby. He got He got that He got the junk in the trunk. It’s thick. It’s some tree trunk legs and junk in the trunk. Have leverage issues, my my friend. He’s gonna have major leverage issues. Jordan Phil I mean um um Jordan Philips is is like I don’t know what’s his name at at leverage issues uh Rayquin Davis and was he ever a great no cycle no thank you my point but he did play for some defense very good against the run don’t disrespect Rayquin like that with with all due respect and he was he ever more than decent let’s be honest okay thank you well there you have It ladies and gentlemen, it is two a time. Two a time. So, it’s time to answer the question here. Uh, just to set the scene, you know, Omar, you know, he was talking about not showing up because he didn’t know if he could defend his position, but um, he did show up. Tag team, partner, you got you got you got Ren and Stimpy over here just just tag teaming me. Hey, you know what? How do would you like to start, Omar? I would like to start. Oh, usually well I gotta go first. Now you’re excited. Let’s go. Hold on. Wait, wait. Okay, here’s the premise that we have on this and and and this is what we set up from the last episode. I dislike this perception that certain individuals have that Tua tongue of Ailoa has shown you everything he’s going to be able to do everything in his arsenal. He’s got absolutely nothing more to offer to the world in the NFL even though he’s only in his heading into year five. Heading into year five, heading into year six. Sorry. 26y old quarterback who clearly has matured, will continue to mature, will continue to transcend and get better. What? What? He’s going to look like this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let’s just say Tua plays another 10 year. And that that’s a real that’s a real aggressive expectation. Okay. Okay. Let’s just say he plays another six years. Let’s let’s be more conservative. Okay. You don’t think in year nine he’s going to be a different and better quarterback than he was in year five? You don’t think he’s going to constantly improve? You don’t think he’s gonna I think they’ve already thrown every possible defense at him that he can even think of. Imagine the mastery that Tom Brady had in year 10 of his career. Tom Brady, Payton Manning, Drew Brees, Steve Young. And I bring up those names for a very specific reason. Go ahead. I bring up those names for a very specific reason. Taking notes. Okay. When we look at what Tua has accomplished, leading the NFL in pass rate, Here we go again. Go. Leading the NFL in yards thrown for, leading the NFL in completion percentage. These are all feats and accomplishments that the elite quarterbacks do. Now, I’m not putting two in an elite category, okay? Because he has not proven that by not finishing out games against tough competition. He’s got to win the big games to be in the elite conversation. But when we are talking about these quarterbacks, 100 pass rating is a fair standard to have, gentlemen. Am I am I not in in in agreements here? Except it’s not again it’s it’s an individual stats that not that’s not accomplished strictly by one player. Um Okay, that’s fair. That’s fair. Okay, finish your point and I’ll do my rebuttal. Okay. Tua has had three straight seasons with a 100 pass rating, gentlemen. Now, he’s only played five years and he’s got three straight seasons with 100 pass rating. Aaron Rogers has had 10 seasons with 100 pass rating and he’s done it consecutively for six straight seasons. That’s the most in the NFL. He’s tied with Drew Brees who has also had 1000 passer rating seasons and done it six consecutive seasons. Steve Young has had eight 100 passer rating games, has done it four consecutive seasons. Then we get to Tom Brady. He’s had 100 pass rating for eight seasons. Has done it three consecutive times just like Tua. Pton Manning has had two straight stretches where he’s done three consecutive 100 passer rating seasons. Russell Wilson’s four consecutive seasons of 100 passer rating. Okay, now we get into the category of Mahomes, Philip Rivers, your homework, Kirk Cousins has had three consecutive seasons of 100 passer rating. That is it, gentlemen, for consecutive seasons of 100 passer rating. I have just compared him to Aaron Rogers, Drew Brees, Steve Young, Tom Brady, Pton Manning, and Russell Wilson. All of those individuals will be Hall of Famers. We We will agree on that. Correct. Well, we agree that two of them nowhere near any one of those guys. I didn’t ask you that question. Oh, sorry. I just said the company that you keep is Hall of Famer, right? Gosh. Uh, do do you know that Ryan Tanahill once had a passer rating that dwarfs anything two has ever done and the very next year did it again? Two consecutive seasons. You know, Jameus Winston once led the league in passing yards. Yes. Okay. I mean, can you want to keep going or is it time for No, I’m finished. I’m finished. I’m finished. Okay. Here’s what I’m gonna say. And there’s there’s there’s going to be a compliment here because I think you know Omar for some reason I got this p this perception and and you throw you start throwing out you know the leading league in completion percentage and passing yards and I go like this because to me again that’s that’s tells an incomplete story. I think two is a good quarterback if everything around them two is going to be great. Okay. But as I once said on a on a podcast that belongs to somebody else that I no longer do a long time ago, if you need everything around you to be elite, you’re not elite. So if to me, I’m not concerned about Tua. I I don’t even think the Dolphins success on offense depends on Tua because Tua is going to do what Tua does. And I think that’s the quarterback he is. That’s the quarterback he’s always going to be. If his guys are open quickly, he’s gonna he’s gonna find him and he’s gonna hit him because he’s really really good at that. If things break down around him, I don’t see that he has the ability has it in him to elevate his game to bring everybody else up like other quarterbacks do on a more consistent basis such as Josh, such as the elite guys. So, if Tyreek is back to being Tyreek, sure, pencil in another 4,000 yards for two or another 100 passer rating, I’m going to tell you right now because he’s going to get him the ball, but he needs that to happen more so than other quarterbacks. And then the other part of it, obviously, he’s got to stay healthy because I’m not convinced that the Dolphins again adequately address the backup quarterback position. Uh even though I feel a little bit better now maybe because I don’t I don’t know there’s a degree of uncertainty with Zach Wilson whereas last year I wanted to give the Dolphins the benefit of the doubt that they knew what they were doing and having Skyler Thompson is number two and we all saw how that panned out and to me it wasn’t so much that well only Tua can do this with this offense. Well if you if you’re all your other quarterbacks are third string quarterback caliber players. Sure. Let me ask you a question, Omar, to your point of all the stats that you obviously did some research for, right? Um, is it easier to throw a five yard pass or a 10 yard pass? That was last season. We’re not No, I’m just I’m just ask I’m asking Omar, this is a general this is a general question. It depends on the defense and the coverage, but yes, it’s easier to throw five yard pass than 10 yard pass. Okay. So, one thing that I was looking up while you were naming all those names. Um, and I don’t know if you have this data in front of you, um, he does have company with passer ratings, you know, three years in a row, but one thing I noticed about all those guys that you named, they’re all in the 9.2 yards per attempt range. Um, see, 9.2, 10.3, 11.4, 10.18. You you know what Tua is? Tua has never had a season where his yards per attempt was over 10 yards. His highest, which was that year that he had his highest, was 9.2 yards per average. And well, sorry, 8.9 yards per average. Let me get that straight. He’s never actually had a season over nine yards per average. So, when your offense is predicated off of getting rid of the ball quick, which could be factored into old line issues, it could be factored into so many different factors, but it’s easier to have a higher passer rating when you’re completing more passes. Russell Wilson has an 8.02 average throughout his career and has never had a nine season. And that’s that’s the realm I put him in. That’s the realm. Yeah. I’m I’m not I’m not going to argue to if Tua has a Russell Wilsones career, I would think it would be a milestone achievement for him. I I I mean, and I and I give you that without the rings. Here’s here’s the problem though. Tua is I like this comp actually. Um Tua is very close to Russell Wilson. You know, the thing that I think that holds Tua back that why I don’t think we could win a Super Bowl with Tua that’s different than Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson didn’t throw 50 yard comeback routes, 40 yard comeback routes. That play action, it was in stride down the field. It was on its way. Now, right now, he throwing rainbow balls. I’m talking about when he won Super Bowls. He was putting the ball out there up front, play action, run the football. All of the things were working in his favor. But he didn’t have that issue getting the ball down the field. And that’s part of the issue with Tu for me. I’m I’m not scared of Tua. Listen, Tua can’t throw one pass. They And I think Pupard, we’ve we’ve watched him throw a thousand passes more than the average fan. There’s one pass Tua can’t throw. He can’t throw a 15 yard out like And he can throw it consist consistently because Yes. Somebody’s going to point out, well, what about that one? What about Yeah, they’re gonna they’re gonna produce a video. Yeah. Consistently. Yeah. Give me give me put let him trail and and have to be throw in a throwing situation uh for the for and you drive the length of the field. They’re gonna pack everything in the middle and leave those 15 yard outs right there for him and jump every single one of those routes. Like he’s a veteran quarterback. I I don’t think I’m telling any secrets now. Um teams know how teams exactly know how to play him in that specific situation. It is not going to be, especially if he doesn’t step in through. It’s a dangerous throw. But TD, I swear to you, my man, outside of that pass, he can throw every pass. He can’t throw the deep and he can throw some of those passes probably better than 80% of the quarterbacks in the game. That teardrop pass, Pupar. Come on, dude. That’s his best throw. He That’s his best throw. And and probably 10% of the NFL quarterbacks can actually throw that pass. We’re not talking about the Hold on. You disagree? Yes, I disagree. 10%? Really? That and there’s another pass he can’t throw is is a zipper on the move. He can’t He doesn’t have the arm strength to do Well, he can’t throw half of him on the move. Hold on. Hold on. How far we How far are we throwing it on the move? 15 20 yards when he when he needs to zip it in there. there they’re there they’re there let’s say dozen to 15 quarterbacks in the NFL who can make that throw to doesn’t have the arm strength to do that. How many quarterbacks? What percent? 12 to 15 who can do that. Uh I give you 20 and I’m not I’m not gonna fight you on that. Omar, this this where I disagree like and and I get the on the move throws, right? And I understand the out route, but again, what’s going to hold Tua back from the being probably elite this deep ball that you speak of? I’m not talking about hike, fake the handoff, put it up there, go get it. I’m talking about hike, survey the field. Oh, he’s open deep. Let me go get it. No, he doesn’t have the arm for it. He doesn’t Sorry, TD. I’m gonna be with If he can set his feet, he can get it there. Sorry. Thank you, Allan. He cannot get How many times have we seen him set his feet and Tyreek slows down while the defender still running? Tyreek slow down for Patrick Mahome passes. Let’s not do this. Yeah, I I get that. But it’s more with Tula. How many in How many instep deep balls that weren’t thrown right after the um pass fake that weren’t thrown right after? How many of those TD that was last year where where Tua struggled in that area? It was a year before. The year before that he actually was very good with the D pass. Allan money to me. You remember that the ball was going out there but it was already on its way. He was already putting the ball up. I’m not talking about the one where I know I’m about to throw deep to Tyreek and I ain’t even slapped the ball yet. I’m not talking I’m talking about anytime he’s back pass. Oh man, he’s open deep. That is always TD. He’s thrown those. Not last year. He’s thrown them. He’s thrown them, but the defender always catches up on those. Why? Because the receiver got to slow down every time. That’s all I’m talking about. Slow down for Patrick Mahomes, too. the receiver. They listen, it’s it’s an inexact science that it’s not it’s not always Tyreek outun his can Tyreek outrun every pass that’s we got to we got to stop we got to stop this mess. This is why we don’t put up seven sometimes and we get three and we ignore it. We always do this. It’s always a time we show on film, oh my gosh, the receivers’s beating them by six feet. Then the ball gets there and the DB and the receivers’s fighting for it. Even if the receiver catch it, we’re in field goal range and it should have been seven. Even in the Houston game on that final pass, Tua throws a catchable ball to Tyreek. It Yes, the DB is in is there. He’s in the coverage, but I’m sorry, the whole point of deep passes is to actually throw catchable balls. It’s easier for you to throw catchable balls or or get the receiver in a position to get a PI as opposed to and this is this is coming from a coach. Okay. As opposed to you overthrow it, overstride it. The point is to throw catch. So you think that’s what’s happening. You think that hey let me just put it up even if it’s short only throws 40 yards cuz he that two is a touch passer. He is going to throw it 40 yard. They know exactly where it’s going to go. Can Tyreek outr run it sometime? Absolutely. But they practice throwing catchable balls. So we have a quarterback that if the receivers’s killing his man, he like he down the sideline. Seven yard separation. Hey, we got to live with the 40 yards instead of the touchdown. We got to live with the 40 because you know what? That’s just what we do. I mean, this is what we’re seeing on film. Yeah. Everybody be like, “Oh, you can’t even be happy about a completion.” Did you see him beating him by seven yards? We cried about Tanahill. Remember Tanah Hill would overthrow a lot at first and then about year three and four somewhere in there, he improved it and start hitting it in stride. But these are touchdowns and the Dolphins don’t get those touchdowns. We don’t get those touchdowns. Remember the playoff game Kansas City? The only touchdown we scored was Tyreek had to come back for and then he had to do the work and get in the end zone. Do you know how many times we’re just blowing people out and we just, hey, you got to come back for this. Like that is a big part of the game there quarterbacks in the league making life easy for the offense by connecting on those seven points instead of three. Is that your big your biggest issue with two TD? Because for for me it’d be more be more along the lines of if things around him are not working well, elevate your team against the the the elite competition. Well, my biggest thing with Tua Allen to answer your question, which I’m glad you actually asked. I look at I look at all the issues I have. Okay. The deep ball is an issue. Elevating his team is an issue. Improvisational skills on a higher level is an issue. Right? So I just like in my mind I’ve always said this about Tua. Just fix one of them and you good. Just those are all athletic things though TD. That’s the thing. I know. This is why I have said what Omar’s telling me like I don’t think he can he can like raise his game, improve his game through the years. He what what he’s going to do is he’s going to become more knowledgeable about reading defenses and all that. He’s going to be he can be more consistent. The problem is in terms of the athletic the ceiling is there is always going to be there and here’s how here’s Go ahead. He worked he worked very hard to slim down and become a more mobile and make improvisational plays last year and I thought what are you doing? I I didn’t say it publicly or didn’t write it but I thought to myself all you’re doing is putting yourself in harm’s way in in this situation. A smaller you makes you more fragile. A scrambling around you makes you a target. And I I I prefer chubby Tua. I prefer thicker Tua. Even he if he gives you nothing whatsoever scrambling. I I prefer him be available for 17 games. I felt like that too. And he was available 17 games. You had a Pro Bowl season. I felt like that. Never put himself in harm’s way. That’s what he did smart. Forget the the jiu-jitsu. Forget to me it’s forget the jiu-jitsu. forget the extra weight. He was chucking the ball away when there was somebody coming at him or he was going down taking a sack. He never put himself in harm’s way. I always I felt that way two years ago, Omar. No, I don’t want him slimming up to be more mobile because the injury issue, but last year I realized, man, in this league, tell me who’s really doing it without the mobility like like who’s really doing it without the mo because even the even the the the smart acumen guys now there comes a point there comes Yeah, but again that’s Matt Stafford. That’s about all I got. I always finding a losing argument on this. I always waited as how do you do in the playoffs when they specifically scheme against your weakness? How’s how they doing? How much effort Super Bowl when they did that? But yes, and and he nearly took down the Eagles. Um but you’re right. I give you I give you that there is a trend and it’s coming up the pipeline and part of this is is is football coaches ending their racist behavior and racist beliefs that the mobile athletic quarterbacks can win in the NFL. And now you’re seeing a lot of guys scrambling improvisation breaking plays breaking script. You’re a thousand% correct. Now, the question that I have, and only time will tell because this is a, you know, before Michael Vic and Randall Cunningham, we didn’t have a lot of these. Steve Young, we didn’t have a lot of these. Um, the question I have is, is it going to have staying power? Is it going to be consistent? Are this is this going to lead to more injuries? I am shocked, and people would tell you I am shocked every season that that that Josh Allen played 70 games. He’s But he’s he’s huge. I know. But I I just think even even Lamar Jackson had to alter his approach. Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes only runs fourth quarter, third down, game on the line. Only runs. He is not going to scramble in any other situation other than third down, fourth quarter, or game on the line. Yep. A and playoffs. He’ll scramble every, you know, when when he’s got one and done, he’ll scramble in those situations. But if you’re asking for this athletic improvisation, Jaylen Herz, you’re asking for your egg to get scrambled. Well, I was talking to a player with Vic Fangio at the Super Bowl and we talked about mobile quarterbacks. And here’s the problem. And this is where Tua has a problem. the the game plan in the NFL now what was told to me is send pressure clog the intermediate clog the intermediate and if they’re not mobile yeah we’re leaving the deep like we’re exposed oneonone or whatever we’re exposed but if they’re not mobile to get out after that first reaction to see it doesn’t matter and that’s what think about Momes the pressure coming getting out play breaks down but oh you gave me time to scramble towards the sideline and look at that guy streaking across the People underestimate the difference that play makes every other week for these teams. Like they don’t do it all the time, but every other week these guys are making that play and it makes all the difference for the season they have. You you know who is going to be a good test case for for this. And I don’t know I don’t know where you have a very valid point. That’s where the league is going. You talk to every defensive coordinator. They fear the scrambling quarterback. They don’t fear anybody. They don’t fear anybody else. They fear the scrambling quarterback. Cam Ward is probably going to be the best test case for this. And you know why? Because he is so good from the college level at improvisation and breaking script. If he can do that in the NFL without consequence, then I say it’s coming. But if he struggles with it, I’m going to be like, “Okay, we’re we’re only viewing it as a success because we’re looking at Hall of Fame talents doing this.” The Patrick Mahomes, the Lamar Jackson, the Josh Allen, those are first ballot hall of famers. And if that is going to be our standard for what every quarterback needs to be doing, we are in trouble in the NFL. Not just the Dolphins, but if that is the standard, if that is a standard for what quarterbacking play looks like, we’re in trouble. By the way, he’s Cameron. Not delivering that. Omar, he’s Cameron Ward now. Per per the NFL transaction wire. Officially now officially now known as Cameron Ward. I’m not You’re looking at me like like like skeptical of what I’m saying. Heard the NFL transaction wire. He is not to be referred to as Cameron Ward. Go ahead, TD. Acknowledge here. Thank you very much, Glenn. We’re going to get to some some of the super chats, but to officially answer the question, I don’t think Tua can save Mike McDaniel. I think he’s already hit his We didn’t even get there. We didn’t even get there. Hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Give me your reason why you don’t think he can save Mike McDaniel’s job. Uh because Tua already told us on the podium about three years ago, I’m not Superman. I’m not here to do more than I I need to do um at my position. He’s already told us out of his own mouth that he’s going to just do his job. He’s not the type that’s going to carry the team. And what Mike McDaniel need is a carrier or the whole or he needs the whole team to save him. He needs the whole team. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Are you telling me that if Tua Tongue of Aaloa gives this team a 2020 2023 Tua tongue of Aaloa performance that he’s not saving everybody? No, it’s the same result as 2023. Everybody on offense that’s going to do this not to not just All I ask the question from you two gentlemen y’all. Whoever need to tag whoever to talk. If Tua Tong of Aloa delivers the exact same season he had in 2023, does he save everybody’s job? No. Why? I I I reject the way you’re phrasing the question because it’s not all about T, which is the point I have made consistently. I I’m not arguing that. Okay. McDaniel and this was if Tua could save him. No, I don’t think Tua can. And another thing, Tua does owe him saving though. Yes, he does because he saved Tua. I would agree with that. And and which is why I think that Tua can save him. I think Tua is if you know the Simone people and you know the Simone culture, there is a huge thing about loyalty. And I think a lot of what’s going on right now are people are not loyal to Mike McDaniel. And then Tua is not going to be loyal to you. Does he deserve the loyalty? Who does Mike deserve the loyalty? Yeah, absolutely. Because he got two of $244 million. No, not from Tu. The people who aren’t being loyal. Jaylen Wadd owes him a lot of loyalty. Ty a lot of loyalty. Does Wadd owe him? I mean, was that not coming anyway? He got him paid. Was that not going to happen anyway? Last Ramsey had to take a pay cut. Ramsey had to take a pay cut when he came to Miami and Miami got him back. What? Ramsey had to take a pay cut. Ramsey went to $15 million a year. He was a $20 million a year player. When he came to Miami went to Didn’t take a p. Oh no. I’m going to check that. Jayladd, by the way, TD led the NFL in yards per reception under Mike McDaniel’s first year. Jaylen Wadd, he deserves Jay Dadd deserves loyalty. Yes. I just thought he were gonna get paid anyway. Who? Wadd. Yeah. Okay. If you hadn’t given Wadd a contract, and I don’t want to do this, I don’t want it to become viral, but if you hadn’t given Wad a contract, and he was playing on his fifth year option, are we looking at Jaylen Wadd going into this season getting a hundred million dollar deal? Yeah, it’s the quarterback market. It’s Jaylen Wadd. It’s the market. Yes. The market is the market. Yes. He still would have gotten paid and we know he already showed years before he could put up a thousand another team with another quarterback who done have to throw comeback watch 40 yards down the field. Yeah, let’s get Waddle. I I remember when I don’t know what team was coming out correct me. what team was like allegedly interested in Jaylen Wadd and supposedly my uh Chris Ger said I wouldn’t accept the deal even if it was for a first round pick and I thought to myself you sound crazy are you that do you look at Wadd like that I wouldn’t take a first for Wadd tell me what game he’s taken over and dominated well let’s look at the circumstance Omar I mean when you force just feeding one guy and then I mean come on. Have we not seen on film water raising his hand 25 yards down the field like I’m up and just shake his head and walk back. This is stuff I notice on film at least. Yeah. Oh, that’s cuz you watch film, huh? You That’s what you trying to say. Well, I ain’t no good at evaluating it, so you know it is what it is. Um but you sound down on Wadd, huh? You sound like like Wadd’s a second tier official to you. No, I I I lie, Jaylen. I’ve never seen Jaylen dominated practice like I’ve seen Tyreek dominated practice. Have you, Pard? He had he had a couple of signature games. He had the Jets game in 2023 when when Tyreek was on. He had one last year where he had a very good game. But do we look at do we look at Wadd as a as a clear number one wide receiver or a high-end number two solo by himself? I look at him as a as a number one. I just thought that he was rising until they got Tyreek and it was like, “Let me play my role.” He was a slob receiver before they got Tyreek. And I would I would make this I would make this argument and and and Pupar can back me up on this. I don’t think Jaylen Wadd is a bad receiver. I’ve just rarely seen him dominate. I Tyreek when Tyreek shows up, Tyreek will be like, “I want to dominate today and do it.” Show me Show me the time when Jaylen Wadd says, “I want to dominate today and does it.” I I remember doing like practice reports and a lot of times like nobody could nobody could cover Tyreek. Nobody could cover Tyreek and I don’t recall many times writing that about Waddle. I don’t know, man. I just think it’s got the same I think got the same caliber of attention as Tyreek. He He’d be invisible. This is wild to me, man. Didn’t he put up 1400 yards one season? Am I tripping? Yeah, that would that was with Tyreek. Yeah. This is what I’m saying. Is he a Pro Bowler? I mean it I I don’t look at that anymore because look at how many good ones in the league now. I mean come on. Put it like this. Put it like this. Waddle is better at his position amongst his peers in the league than Tui is at his position. About the same. About the same. Upper echelon. Back of the top tier. top 15, 20. I mean, there are more wide receivers than there are percentage-wise. Yeah, maybe Wadd’s better percentage-wise at his position, but I just only thing I don’t like about Wadd is the drop sometimes. So, kind of kind of a important part of playing wide receiver. Yeah. And and nobody notices, but he’s he’s he’s been hindered a lot a substantial amount during this. Not to say that it’s his fault. He lived a little. I I love the way he fought back from a knee injury cuz people don’t realize he played the ending portion of the season hurt. Um that you know uh but you know it’s it’s I’m not saying he’s a bad receiver but I’ve always said this and and Pupar knows my position on this. You gave up Jamar Chase for Jaylen Wadd and and other things. You gave up Pen Su for Pen Su. That’s the pick. Uh, no. Jamar Chase was the pick. You had the best right. Pen Su the best right tackle in the NFL. Hold on. Hold on. Chase was on the board when Waller was there. No. No. I thought Chase went right before. If they would have stayed where if they would have kept it behind where they were, they could have took Jamar Chase. No issues. Hold on. Hold on. We traded out that year? Yeah. Yes. Three to six. Traded out then traded back. I forgot all about that. But we were at three and we could have had Chase. But TD, even at six after going 3 to 12 to six, they could have had Pen Su. Forget that. We could have had Chase. Oh my god. Listen, get No, but I get Well, no, I think he the best receiver in the league. Jamar Chase is the best receiver. Yeah, I think he’s the best receiver in the league. And everybody knew that. Everybody knew that was coming. Yeah. People saying it’s Justin Jefferson, all that. That’s the highlight stuff. allaround receiver route running when the third and 11 you need that comeback on the outside this your guy man we could have had Chase TD acknowledge our our good folks here like Glenn look at that Chase Allen all right Glenn said great show enjoy the show um I very much um keep it up thank you Glenn as always for showing love man uh Nick Dorsy said if you had your choice for one of these players to be immediate media impact probo caliber player. Who would you choose? Kenneth Grant or Jonah? Jonah, baby. Grant. Just because you said Jonah. Listen, I like the way Jonah Jonah I haven’t seen him move and I definitely don’t judge offensive line until they put pads on and actually start doing that. But yeah, I like I like the fact that he’s fit. He’s big and he’s fit. Correct. But I I think I think they need more be more impactful to have a stud defensive tackle immediately or stud defensive lineman immediately than a stud guard. You got three of them in the draft. One of them will pan out and one is in the seventh. I mean Jonah is it, baby. Jonah is it or is the starting lineup? I I’m gonna go with Jonah here. Okay. Um, and the reason why I think he is so important to this season, the how we how we view the overall O line, the whole O line. I think he’s hard. Yeah, but that’s like a nasty little piece of the puzzle right now. Hard. Did you guys have a major issue with the offensive line before Austin Jackson went on IR and Terron’s knees gave out? I didn’t like it, but it was adequate. Thank you. My point exactly. To me, positional value is a lot greater on the defensive line than at guard. That’s just me. Okay. Yeah, I’m Yeah, I think the old line needs to prove something this year. And that might save Mike’s job. Get that right. We’ll see. Uh Chief E with the membership. Man, if you want to join the membership, I forgot to remind you all. We have a lot of members now and um it’s pretty dope to see everybody using the emojis and showing their support to the channel. If you like to join the membership or if you’re already a member and want to gift others and bless them with a membership, the option and the link is below in the description and in the chat. So, take advantage of it. But welcome to the family, Chief. Be that number one fan to show TD. Show them your show the number one. They don’t get it, man. I rock. Oh, nope. I got to go color. I ride for my car, man. Nice. MVP. All right, never mind. All right. Um, Chief again said, “What’s up, guys?” Big shout out from Medaline, Columbia, man. See, I’ll be digging right there trying to find them Pablo Escobar um stashes. But um and no, Omar, I don’t know the real Pablo. Wow. By the way, how important is left tackle when Tua is left-handed? Uh, wouldn’t the right side be blindside? Uh, well, I I disagree. Um, it’ll be his blind side, but it’s not the most important because it’s his blind side. The mo the premier pass rushers in the league usually come off of that side where the left tackles. You want to make sure you solidify that. Most pass rushers will tell you they’re I mean, all of them will tell you, “Oh, I’ll rush from anywhere and be dominant.” But they love they prefer rushing from the right side. Yeah. Um of the line. Cam prefer rushing from the left side. I think which is Max Crosby comes from the left also. Yeah. I mean some guys who have a better like majority just Yeah. body twerk and turn that corner and he was unstoppable in his prime. And some people want that first foot to get out and around which is their right because their dominant right. So that’s that’s pretty typical. But I get your point with the left-handed and blind side. But um Hey, Austin Jackson over there holding it down and we get the ball out. Great pocket presence. Um I I don’t think you have to put an emphasis. Would you be better with Penang Su? Yes. But I don’t think you have to put an emphasis on your right tackle. I I I believe that Tua needs mauling offensive linemen, mauling tackles, mauling guards in front of him. You don’t need to worry really about the pass protection. Yeah. me personally. But yeah, but that’s not what that’s not the offense they run. They they don’t want they don’t want or need What did Aaron Aeron Brewer tell us when we’re talking about Jo Jonah’s got a big big boy on the offensive line? Yeah, but we want guys who can move athletic get out to the second level zone blocking, you know, and um I don’t care if you’re moving laterally and and and carve the guy down on the second level. I just want you carving the guy down. They don’t they they you know correct. the the emphasis is on mobility more than it is on it is and that’s why you can’t convert to short yardage. But anyway, I think I heard that somewhere said once Greer tells the media you guys are more worried about the quarterback room than we are. That’s when I start to pay. No’s funny. No’s funny, man. That that comment will not come out his mouth. Well, yeah. He’s learned his left. Yeah, I just don’t believe Tua or lefty QB as a lefty. So there Jason Kirkland said, “All podcasts are better when Allen and Allen go at it. Phillips and Chub are injuryprone and coming off big injuries. Why does everyone assume they’ll be their best selves? If not, then what?” Yeah, that is an assumption. I’m going to assume you meant when Allan and Omar go at it. I would imagine we’ve had our rounds. By the way, did you guys see that video the Dolphins put out on social media from phase two of their work and it included Jon Phillips doing like runaround drilling moving very well, which I thought was massively encouraging considering he tore in this NACL last September. So, that was really good. Nobody nobody should have assumed that they’re going to be there. My goal for tomorrow when OTA’s starts out is do not write that Jaylen Phillips won’t be Well, maybe I should write Jaylen Phillips won’t be ready for the season. Maybe I should write that. Yeah, he he he yelled at me in the stands the second week of OTAAS like taking offense to what I what I wrote because I I I watched him limp around. I’m like this this is not this is not good. And yes, he used that as I I love athletes like that that and you knew him throughout your career, poop the guys that would use any little thing as motivator. I’m I’m very hopeful for Jaylen Phillips. He just looks like he just carries himself like a guy that’s supposed to win. Like I just hope he can shake these injuries because it’d be a shame to derail him, especially his story from what he came from cuz people forget, wasn’t he like the concussed a lot? Um, and then he stopped football and and and went back football and came back. And um, I I didn’t know his career arc until after the Dolphins drafted him. But at one point he was like the top football player, top high school player in in in the nation, number one. And when you look at Jaylen Phillips, like that’s the one thing I’ve seen pro alete bodies my entire life. Like there ain’t I’ve never seen anybody sculpture. Yeah, he’s moreed than Cam Wakeake is, which if you can imagine that. Yeah, I agree with that. No B with the $10 donation showing love said McDaniel relies on two to save his job would be like me relying on Jelly Roll to save me from drowning. Wow. Don’t see that ending well for either of us. Wow, that was funny. I’m telling you that was funny. Tua doesn’t call his past protections, nor does he study film like the guys Omar mentioned. Well, 80% of the NFL quarterbacks now don’t call their pass protections. I I don’t Yeah, I I don’t A center is responsible for your pass protection, but Well, it’s a center and a quarterback. And it is a center and a quarterback. You’re right. Yeah. So, I mean, I wish they did. It would save a lot. Tom Brady keep on going on rants about this and interviews how none of them do it anymore. They’ve made the position so easy now. So, All right. Um, two a season was done since week two of last year. Uh, we’ll believe um it when we finally see it. None of them stats didn’t win us big games or a Super Bowl appearance. Omar, that’s a team that’s a it’s a team game. Now it is. As Alan Now it is. As Alan Pard always preaches to me, wins are not a quarterback stat. Uh 27 yard bombs with their running start. Oh, Eric Darnold won that Super Bowl. Well, he was big time. Oh, no. No, no, don’t don’t what forget what game it was. Matt Stafford delivered some clutch play in the fourth quarter to win a game to take them to the Super Bowl. I can’t remember what game it was, but it was a performance that I said, “Okay, he’s cementing his Hall of Fame career right now.” He’s a dude, but in that Super Bowl, Aaron Donald was a complete So, you think Matthew Stafford going to the Hall of Fame? Yeah, I think so. I think he’s still got one more thing to do, like something. I don’t know about that. All right. If they’re putting If they’re putting I mean, are we saying just because you want a Super Bowl? Yeah. No, that that’s not a problem. Is Philip Rivers gonna get in? Who? Philip Rivers. See, see that’s the problem. I mean, but we’re not going to sit here and say what’s um Well, are we saying Flaco is going to the Hall of Fame? No. Is not going to But here’s the thing. Eli Manning is going to go in the Hall of Fame. And from where I eventually eventually from where I sit, he shouldn’t go in the Hall of Fame. That’s I don’t disagree with you, but he has multiple rings and is the only man to beat Tom Brady multiple times. Defense won that game. He’s going Oh, go ahead, Alan. You froze on He’s going and I don’t think Super Bowl and you’re freezing. You can’t talk bad. Look at Look at his entire Look at his entire career and it’s extraordinarily average for two runs. the one that that wound up producing two Super Bowls. And the first one, it’s the defense that won the Super Bowl, not Eli Manning. And it’s Justin Tuck or Michael Strahan, who should have been Super Bowl MVP, not Eli Manning. I’m not arguing a single word that you said. 500 career record as a quarterback. Eli, I’m very thankful that he was not a finalist for the Hall of Fame because it proved to me that not everybody quarterback is going to get in. He’s going, but I don’t think he’s going to have to wait as long. I think he should wait. I like the rule. I Well, I like the because um a a Hall of Famer said this. This is how you determine if a player’s in the Hall of Fame and even general managers have said it. Can you tell the NFL story without the person? And you can’t with Eli because of the Bradies. The Brady wins. Anytime you talk about Brady, you’re going to bring up that’s a part of it. So, he’s not the one who beat Brady. The catch. The catch. No. Yeah, but that’s how you know that’s how people judge it. Who the quarterback for him? I know. I He made the throws though. He made some throws. He made some crazy throw. Can’t take it from him. Just saying. We talk about We talk about all the time shrinking in those moments. We got to praise Eli for rising in those moments. They they held the highest scoring offense I believe it was in NFL history at that time to 14 points. That’s why they win the Super Bowl. They still had to score 15. Allan or more, whatever they score. And if the Dolphins score 17, you’d be the first one to jump on two for not doing enough for everybody take if two had a Eli Manning career, would everybody take it? Yes. Super Bowl. Sure. But he was he was Can I ask you a question? Did Did Eli Manning contribute in the playoffs to losing? Nope. Was he there like just bombing it up like, “Oh, we can’t overcome this guy.” That’s all I’m saying. In the big moment, 2 ain’t got to be in superpower, but in the big moment, don’t be a part of the reason you lose. Fair. That’s all I ever say. So, yeah, that was a good point, wasn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. You you’re doing all right. W averages four targets a game. See, we gave up Justin Jefferson for Austin Jackson. That That’s Yeah, let just let that go. Nobody Nobody knew Justin Jefferson was going to be that or who he is. If we get 350 likes, I donate 20 memberships. Nice, man. Very nice. I gota By the way, if we’re gonna if we want to second guess that 2020 draft to me was more egregious to take Noah Benogamy at 30 when they they had a crying need for a running back and they had their choice of any running back in the draft. I I would say the safety in Tampa Bay. Come on now. for midfield Jordan. Yes, that would have been a good choice. And and and he was all right, y’all. Y’all need to get those likes up cuz I I’m punch that like button. Glenn trying to bless any of y’all. Yes, we are. We got 343. Well, why don’t 3:45? You got to refresh. Okay. Oh, God. There you go. My bad. Yeah, you still stuck on 2023. Oh, hold on. Wait a Oh, no. 35. 3:45. All right. We need 354. We just hit it. All right. Glenn’s good for Glenn’s good for it. Trust me. So, he about to bless 20 of y’all with the membership. Salute to Glenn. All right. Uh Gary Williams said, “What do you guys think about the linebacker death? It’s one of the least talked about units. It’s good, but there’s I’m not sure there’s anybody elite in that group.” Hold on. Um KJ Bridg is a guy Willie Gay Jr. has has a decent track record. It’s okay. Doson and Jordan Brooks. I mean, it’s it’s decent depth. There’s Yeah. I mean, I’m not talking about the starters. I I think if you suffer two injuries, you got two guys that can get the job done without including Channing Tindle and uh Joe Bell. Who? Bell. Bell. Linebacker. Bell’s an edge though, huh? Yeah. That’s That’s Bell’s an edge. No, no, no, no. The linebacker coach. Oh, Joe Barry. Okay. Joe Barry. Joe Barry. Joe Barry. Joe Barry. I asked him specifically about Quinton uh uh Channing Tindle. Okay. Just because stop picking the draft a few years ago. Let’s get this on the record. And he said the the fortunate thing he said he’s he generally doesn’t share his exit interviews with players, but he will share this. He told Channing Tindle, “Listen, this is going to be your first time, first opportunity since you’ve been here where you’re not changing your defensive coordinator, you’re not changing your defense.” Like, you should be able to feel comfortable and you should be able to thrive moving forward. So, we shall see. Basically, um, you’re on a performance action plan now where, hey, if you don’t deliver, he would have been cut he would have been cut last year for me. uh if he didn’t have that dominant preseason game, he he was dead man walking. Um and and there are players like Channing Tindle and Eric Uama who should play like their jerseys are on fire because their NFL careers and their paychecks depend on their performance on a daily basis. And I think Erica is climbing up a hill because you let Malik Washington come in and I think may have different wide receivers. They’re not. Yeah, but in the final count on the back end of the roster. Nah, they’re they’re not even competing for the same job to me. So, Malik’s on the roster and Nukama is in in in a group battling for that fifth or sixth wide receiver possibly hitting him. Yeah, I have no idea. The reason why the reason why I bring that up, don’t the Dolphins every year for training camp bring in that one or two veterans at the receiver position? They they usually bring but sometimes those guys make the back end of the roster sometimes. That’s why it was craycraft. There’s no River Craycraft and and River’s I think unemployed right now. I’m curious if they will be T. Yeah, he got cut by Seattle I think. What happened to him? He just got out of their good graces. Craig Craft. No, he didn’t get cut. He got placed on non is it non- football injury list? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wave non- football injury list. So hurt got hurt training outside the facility. Damn, that’s horrible. Um, if I were a player like River Craigcraft, I would not be training anywhere but inside the facility. I know he’s probably got other needs and maybe had a kid and man, that’s sad. I I I I care forever Kracraft. I I think he’ll be on this coaching staff. But anyway, wow. Interesting. We shall see. Um, all right. We got How far apart are Tyreek and Malik Washington? Um, could Malik do everything that Tyreek does in this offense? How about me? Me and LeBron as a basketball player? I think he might be. That’s about how far. That’s about how far. You might be better that like, do these fans really not know how good Tyreek is? Josiah, holy moly. Like, apples and oranges. Yeah. Hey, that’s a whole another topic. Maybe we’ll hit it Thursday. This 2000 yard. Um Oh, stop stop. I’m not I’m not I’m not talking anything Tyreek ever since. I like I I He’s He’s doing a He’s He did a um And you probably covering this Pard. He’s with the social he’s with the Twitch guys or stream people. Yeah. You know, Tyreek is just wants attention all the time. Tyreek, go go go go. Can I take this one? Can I take this one, please? Take it. William, by the way, thank you very much for the for the donation. Eli should be in the hall just because he beat the Patriots twice. I get it. Uh Jim Plunkett be in the Super Bowl because he went to Super Bowl. I mean the Hall of Fame. He won two Super Bowls. But I get you because he beat the Patriots specifically. We’ll allow it. Hey man, Allan man, you don’t like Eli, man. I think he was just an absolutely incredibly average quarterback. Maybe slightly above average. had two great playoff runs that were keyed by the defense, not him. And I understand he played very well in those two Super Bowls, but again, two Super Bowls are gonna put him in the Hall of Fame. I’ll just say this, like I say, he was average to be honest with you, but the problem is in the big game, I never pointed my finger at him. Let me hold on one, sorry for interrupting, but let me let me present two hypotheticals. If his last name is not Manning, if he didn’t play in New York, are we having the same conversation about him? Wow. Did he win two Super Bowls on Tom Brady? That wasn’t a question I asked. Here’s the thing. Philip Rivers had a statistically superior career. Probably has a better winning percentage. Never won two rings. Super Bowls, right? Super Bowls. But how much of that is how much of that does Rivers ever have a defense like the Giants had in 2007? He I I don’t want to. Yeah. I’m we’re splitting hairs because I agree with you. Eli Manning is just okay. He’s like he’s Matt Ryanesque and I don’t think Matt Ryan is is a Hall of Fame quarterback. Was he ever a top five quarterback in the NFL? No. No. Shouldn’t that Shouldn’t that count for something? How did he perform in the playoffs? It’s more dude, you’re talking about This is what What is the question? What do we What is the question? Is he a Hall of Famer? We all know he’s gonna be a Hall of Famer because of I know I know he’s gonna be because of the sentiment. I am saying he should not be is all I’m saying. Should he not be? He shouldn’t. He probably shouldn’t be. There are a lot of quarterbacks who shouldn’t be who are going to get in eventually. Shout out to Shout out to Glenn donating 20 memberships to Frank Lopez, Mr. finisher Ronnie Williams, Real Estate Insights, Golden Thumb, Sker V or five. Um, John Pian, Sean 1543, Ocean 18, Haley Wuliski, Wulissic, um, CJS, Truly Thankful, Xavier Ruiz, JD. Oh, not JD. I am Touche and Miami Z. No, there’s more. Spooky Meyers, Dolph Williams, Michael A. Bumonte Jr., One of Kind Outdoors, Wister. Yeah, I can’t pronounce. Um, Jack, we appreciate you, Glenn. Thank you. Thank you, Glenn. That’s big time, man. Y’all put your emojis in the chat. All right. And also, do us a favor after this video. Go in the chat and answer the question yourself. Go in the chat. Can Tua improve this year? That’s one question. So, put one, yes or no. Question two, can he save Mike McDaniel’s job? And tell us what you think. We go through, we read them, we get your thoughts, and we weigh them. 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We got something on the table. We got to talk about Tyreek 2000. I ain’t talking about Tyreek 2000. I don’t like Oh, man. But Allan, any fight or words? Uh, it’s nothing personal. For those who who keep pushing back against my idea that Eli Manning does not belong in the in the Hall of Fame, it’s not personal. He doesn’t belong. Does certainly does not belong in the same ring as Deion Sanders. That’s for sure. Oh, first ballot should be a different color. I know. Yeah, that’s cool. They should get like a special emblem like a one or something like that. And I want you to answer this question um both of y’all next week because this is a real debate in Dolphins community like with all the fans. If we were to win a Super Bowl with two Tiger Valor, does that make him better than Dan Marino? We’re going to leave on that note, ladies and gentlemen. Thank y’all so much for tuning in to Dolphins Collective. 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Omar, come on. You know that. Oh my gosh. But guys, y’all have fun out there and we can’t wait to Thursday night to hear what you all. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. The rules. And um hey, request from all the viewers. Let us know if Quinn Eers is the best QB um on the field. All right. We love y’all. We appreciate y’all. Allan, you want to give a shout out to who? Your plug, man. Plug everyone. Plug Miami Dolphinsson onsi.com. Check it out. All Dolphins podcast. Check it out. Thank you so much everyone for watching. Love you guys. Yes. Thank you all. We’ll be also doing another podcast after practice tomorrow. So hopefully we’ll see you there. We love you all. Until next time, y’all stay classy and fins up no matter what. Peace. [Music]
Tua needs to take a step forward with the Miami Dolphins, but whether he does so will have ramifications through the franchise.
CHAPTERS:
03:17 – Dolphins Trade Value
11:18 – Cornerback Stability Issues
13:54 – Guaranteed Contracts for Second-Round Picks
18:45 – Impact of Fake Money on Rookie Contracts
22:10 – Dolphins Practice Insights
24:22 – Tua Tagovailoa’s Improvement and McDaniel’s Future
36:44 – Tua’s Yards Per Attempt Analysis
40:55 – Tua’s Deep Ball Performance
45:50 – Issues with Tua Tagovailoa
49:40 – Quarterback Mobility Discussion
52:43 – Can Tua Save McDaniel’s Job?
55:30 – Jaylen Waddle’s Loyalty
01:01:55 – Immediate Impact Players
01:04:17 – Importance of Left Tackle Position
01:07:02 – Injuries and Team Assumptions
01:10:08 – Wins Not Being a QB Stat
01:11:04 – Matthew Stafford Hall of Fame Discussion
01:12:32 – Eli Manning Hall of Fame Status
01:15:42 – Linebacker Depth Analysis
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Great show fellas
Dolphins never had strong leadership. Say what you want about Flores. He put it down. Matt Moore had heart. Omar, you hit it with the mercenary thing.
Question number 1 can tua improve technically yes mentally he can still get better with quicker progressions checking to better plays and other small things. athletically probably not. At this point athletically he is where he is.
2. By himself tua cannot save Mike Mcdaniels job. The way I see it is the dolphins TEAM needs to win a playoff game for Mike to survive. Tua can be a big part of that but unless there is team success which is what Mike is here to do he will not be here next year.
Good douglie ain't present and Reason is trash
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The thing with Tua is that he truly has had some fantastic games. However, most of those performances came against weaker teams where the Dolphins were already dominating. During these type of matchups the stats tend to pile up because the pressure's low and everything's clicking. So when you look at Tua based on his stats alone, he's in the same breath as the elite quarterbacks. But if you really look at it, whenever he faces off against winning teams, more often than not, the offense stalls out and gets shut down. And really all he has to work with a are a bunch of bubble screens and dump passes off the line of scrimmage. They count as completions but that's about as far as it goes there.
Seems as time has progressed, defenses have McDaniel's offense figured out realizing they just need to take away Tyreek and Waddle, and suddenly the offense looks very dismal becoming non threatening and that's with Tua on the field.
Another big issue is Tua’s lack of mobility. That’s a major dimension the offense is missing, especially in today’s game where a quarterback’s ability to extend plays is huge.
I want to be clear: I really like Tua. He’s a great guy with high character, and I root for him every Sunday. But that doesn’t change the fact that he hasn’t proven to be that guy when it matters most. Yes, he’s had flashes, his comeback win against Baltimore a couple years ago was incredible. But outside of rare moments like that, he’s often come up short in the clutch. And when the season is on the line, he’s either not performing or not even on the field.
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Why even bother with TD… He thinks 12 yards off the LOS for safety is "in the box"… He clearly doesn't know what he is talking about watching ball. He is nothing but an outrage merchant. Come on!
Doubtful!
A bigger question is can that crap o line that Grier has done nothing to upgrade,if you protect him he is a special player, all the quarterbacks got hurt behind that line,Grier must have compromising pictures of Ross to still have a job
The thing is.. how come Tua gets coddled so much and why are there so many excuses for him? Cause Grier knows his job is tied to Tua.. Any other team would not have extended him over having a healthy season dust time in his football career.. he showed he was a pretender when it came to the big boys..
1:15 1:15 😂😂
What is Allen talking about? There is not a QB that Omar named did not have WR. And TD needs to go do some more research why is he on here I’m done dude.
0:28 Poupart knew before Omar even said it 😂
They got TD looking stupid about waddle.
33:55 and Kirk cousins, very convenient you didn’t relish him as a hofer
They killed douglie im calling the police
TD is a fraud, always following his homies' narrative, not his own. Even other elite QBs' deep passes their WR have to slow down.
Omar. Really you went to race? I was starting to like you. Coaches are racists? Unsubscribed
What’s the instagram account you guys spoke about
The forced Tua experiment is soon over. He plays 9 games this year, and gets brutalized!
MVP trifecta
No DDW so I can tolerate the entire show
The day he was signed I classified it as a Hindenburg acquisition by Grier. I said the same thing for Chubb bingo on both.
Without a qb who move and pickup first downs with his legs, youre playing with one arm tied behind your back. Even Tua knows as much. This is why he cut weight and tried to make more plays out of structure. The only way a team wins with Tua as the starting qb is if they have an elite defense and a strong ball-control run dominant offense.
1:01:20 Both would have been great options
I'm with Alain for once. Passing on Penei Sewell for Jaylen Waddle was a fireable offense in my opinion. Just an awful team building decision. And this is not hindsight, I said so at the time. I supported Grier before that draft, but the direction he took the team from that point going forward slowed me the flawed vision.
I'm with Alain for once. Passing on Penei Sewell for Jaylen Waddle was a fireable offense in my opinion. Just an awful team building decision. And this is not hindsight, I said so at the time. I supported Grier before that draft, but the direction he took the team from that point going forward slowed me the flawed vision.
Nope Omar Tua is maxed out he’s actually beyond maxed. He’s on the final descent and rapid steady decline ready to taste the soil.
If McDaniel doesn't commit to running more inside zone and power scheme then he and his 7 on 7 offense won't survive the season. There's a real football coach already on staff and waiting for an opportunity. His name is Anthony Weaver, and he's the perfect blend of player's coach and disciplinarian. The plan is already set.
Omar is the biggest racist there is!
Malik is a poor mans Tyreek. He will be good enough replacing Tyreek. Hes tough, strong, good hands and plenty of speed. Youll see.
Tua is shot mentally & verbally would have been traded already if not for the cap hit. Just give the ball to wilson and move on.
I had to fast forward Omar’s nonsensical Tua rant. Tua has showed us his whole bag. He’s got not “next level”.
Omar prefers to call them mercenaries instead of Ns 😂
Yeah im so disgusted with Ramsey
Waddle def isn’t a 1 his hands are iffy as hell
we neeed Kader in the slot
Doug missing 2 many days!!!!! Lol we need the 4
I agree with Omar. Kick rocks Ramsey.. he forced his way out of Jax. Behaved but got traded from LA and now hes forcing his way out of Miami after we bent over backwards to throw money at him. Don't take on any money and send him packing.
"do you think Waddle would have gotten a big contract playing on his 5th option?
Waddle is definitely comparable to Tee Higgins and look at the money he got this year?!
Everyone knows year 6 is when qbs breakout 😂😂😂
Waddle disrespect is ridiculous!!! I understand he’s been injured but the way Omar is disrespecting him putting him on the same level of tua is ridiculous
Start to not mind TD and then he just switched to idiot mode …drinking national media bs on tua deep throws duuuuumb
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