Should the Bruins Trade for Jason Robertson? | Bruins Beat

Should the Bruins Trade for Jason Robertson? | Bruins Beat

bruins Beat is brought to you by Prize Pix and welcome into the Bruins Beat presented by Prize Picks go use that promo code CLNS to get $50 back when you play just $5 i’m Evan Marinowski that’s Carl Corzini carl what is up oh not much is up it’s the end of the school year which is really nice it’s a beautiful day out and what would I rather be doing than hanging out with you inside inside inside it’s better than anything end of this it’s a great way to celebrate the end of school and it’s nice out you’re right yeah and and somehow it’ll be rainy this weekend as it always seems to be here in the great state of Massachusetts so I’m I’m excited for that um Yeah is school Are you done is St mark’s graduated graduated last Saturday you had some faculty meetings a faculty outing yesterday and today’s truly the la the the first day off from the school year and you’re spending it with me well you sent me the message you you said “Hey do you want to do a podcast today?” And I was like “Absolutely.” Like like I would love to talk some hockey on June 13th so why not why not exactly um so we’ll dive into it i There’s This is a fun episode because I think I want to get your opinions on things um I think there’s a lot of hypotheticals to discuss which I know you love i love hypotheticals so we can definitely dive deep into some of these but we’ll start with a non- hypothetical which is Marco Sturm new head coach of the Bruins um what’ you think of that what do you think of that hire i think where you’re at currently the strength of your team is Jeremy Swayman and then your your defensive core you have a coach that that has a defensive system right has openly spoke about K Julian system as well um I think you need to reset the foundation as a defensive team i do not think that fans are necessarily going to enjoy trying to win two to one three to two games but if you have any chance of making the playoffs next year it it’s from from goal on out and you rely on Swayman Makavoy Hampus Lynholm right like to a degree Mason Lori like as his game continues to progress but it’s probably the probably the right fit for who you are as a team i think what what fans probably are are certainly frustrated with is that you weren’t the team at the top of of those top coaches lists right like what’s what’s transpired over the course of the last two coaches is you’ve gotten rid of them for whatever reason and they’ve gone on and won without you um and I think everyone else around the league looks at that they look at your current roster they look at your prospect pool and you know decided not to engage um in being part of an original six team and I think that’s the frustrating part like not that Marco Sturm’s not a name in hockey that people don’t know like certainly people know who he is around here but his coaching resume probably doesn’t fit with who the Boston Bruins are yeah i mean but I also think like do was this roster really one that uh like are they at a point where they would want that sort of retread head coach like I know Woodcraftoft was sort of in the middle like I I don’t consider Jay Woodcraft and I’ve said this before I don’t consider him like a retread um he’s only been in one place it was for like basically two and a half years he sort of fits in the Bruce Cassidy mold of like Cassidy was head coach in Washington for like a year and a half two years i didn’t consider him sort of like a recycled coach um but I don’t know if the Bruins are in a position where they would want a guy who’s sort of been recycled like I always mentioned like Lavia Ladder Tortoella and I also don’t know why they I don’t think they’d want to come here with this roster like you’re right about like the head coaching here they’ve you know they’ve gone through guys and they’ve all gone on to success but I also don’t like would you would they want to have this roster right now would you want to kind of enter into this weird limbo situation that the Bruins seem to be in i don’t think so no I don’t think I don’t think you want to but I think you the fan base right the the tradition of the Bruins the fan base the excitement around uh the city for for the Boston Bruins like Yeah like as a as a coach you want to be you want to be in a situation where people care about the sport and the opportunity to rebuild it but but you’re right right like the roster’s the roster is not designed for Peter Laviolet or Mike Sullivan to come in and take them over the top like they’ve got a long way to go it’s you know a two to threeyear process probably before they’re going to be a Stanley Cup contender again so yeah you’re you’re not going to get that that big name to come in and take over the Boston Bruins and and that’s why I do think that Marco Marco Sturm is the right fit someone that can create an identity defensively build that foundation and I don’t know that he’s the coach that’s going to take him over over the top time will tell with what his program looks like and what does your prospect pool look like um coming in the next three years cuz what do you you have five first round picks in the next three drafts that’s right that’s right and and that’s the thing and so like you’ve I you have talked about it a little bit um off the air and and I I think a lot of people are kind of asking this question and it’s right to ask is like and you just alluded to it is he the guy that that can take them to the cup four years from now and the real qu the answer is I don’t know and that’s not a bad thing necessarily it’s not a great thing but we just don’t really know and I think it’s in large part because first of all the Bruins go through coaches quick i mean they had Bruce Cassidy who is one of the best coaches in the NHL five years gone jim Montgomery uh you know we criticized him here but is a good NHL head coach he goes to St louis wills him to the playoffs like you know he was here what two years was it like two years and a couple months so yeah two and a half years i I just I wonder with Sturm um I wonder what their leash is post this period where like it seems like they are more towards rebuild retool than contention obviously so I mean I think his big thing as you said return to a defensive identity that’s going to be number one um helping to develop these prospects and getting young guys in the lineup that’s number two but when does that patience wear out you know because again you have David Posternok in his prime on this team you have Charlie Makavoy entering his prime you have Jeremy Swayman entering his prime you have guys like Hampus and Elias Lindholm i I don’t know how long this can this is going to go on for like you’re going to have to win at some point and Marco Sturm may be the guy that gets them to win and Marco Sturm gets him into the playoffs and they’re in it every year and he’s the and he grows with this roster and that’s that’s what you want i think that’s the perfect uh thing you look at the best head coaches in the NHL they’ve grown with their rosters but I I also wouldn’t be shocked if they went the other direction where like you know they get to three four years out from now and it’s like all right now we need a proven like a Peter Dbor type coach to come in and get this team kind of that next level so but we don’t know at this point well I do think one thing to consider is that Don Sweeney has a two-year extension so it becomes what what is his patience does he need to win now right like is is that a scenario that plays plays into it in the sense that you’ve got those fir those five first round picks in the next three years he’s got the two-year extension what is what does he do right like I think he alluded to it at his his um press conference uh last week or the last time he was speaking that right with a lot of those draft picks they were in a in a win now scenario and so where he has this extension is there some security there or does he feel the need that they need to win an original six team in a city where right like knowledgeable hockey fans but want to win too right like they want to develop and contend at the same time so you know with those extra picks do you try to go out and get some um established players that make you more of a solidified playoff hockey team so that that’ll be the one thing like does Marco Sturm make it through that two-year extension that that’d be the one thing that I’ I’d be interested in like as they start to get established players if that’s how they so choose with those extra draft picks or do they or do they draft those five first rounders and then then I think Marco Stern probably gets a little bit longer of a leash 100% and I you’re 100 I think you’re on the nose with like if you start trading those first which we’ll get into in a second like you’re going to be expected to win and if you’re not winning immediately sweeney is on it because he has I think Sweeney has this coming season and then two years after I believe so you basically have three years coming up here uh starting this coming season um you know does the clock start ticking and you say all right we need to bring in an established guy that knows how to win and we’re getting very ahead of ourselves obviously but I think it’s valid to ask and I like the Stormmy hire by the way I’m not like trying to pour cold water all over it no I’m not either questions we need to be asking well I just think as a hockey fan not like lifelong Boston Bruin fan former player always have loved the way they played it’s it’s the anticipation of trying to win two to one in order for them to make the playoffs next year like if if that’s a real possibility they’re going to have to play an extremely structured defensive style right like win those games two to I I’m I’m not going to enjoy that right like if they’re in the playoffs I I’ll enjoy it sure like you’ve done your job but um yeah the open run and gun style win four to three is it’s fun to watch at 7 o’clock at night sit down when you sit down on the couch i do enjoy that yeah it is it is i’ll be getting the text I’ll be getting the texture at nine o’clock in November on a a Wednesday night being or a Thursday night being like this is boring this is boring so I do think So I do think I think Marcus Durm uh I think he’s secure for two years right like just what you said don Sweeney the the year and then the two-year extension what does it look like where is that roster at the end at the beginning of that third year are there a team that that can truly contend has he shown that that his team is willing to play the style that he needs them to play i think that year three will be where when decisions are made you uh obviously historically on the on the live postgame shows which we need to get back to the Bruins need to get back to the playoffs so we can do those okay um but uh you are a expert in structure and things like that and Sturm obviously is a is a well you’re an expert in this terms but uh Sturr was notorious for being you know there with Todd Mlullen in LA they ran the 131 um they sort of mirrored that in Ontario and obviously then the under um Hiller they switched sort of a one two uh in the neutral zone is there any structural structurally things you’d like to see the Bruins do that they haven’t been doing it’s okay if there isn’t yeah i don’t I don’t know right like you I’m not going to sit here and tell you when I’m watching the game on the couch that I’m too uh in tune with with structure you do we did watch it during the playoffs with uh Florida a few years ago right like and you watch Florida now like they just suffocate you and in the defensive end like they are consistently pressuring the puck right like making contact and that second forward is right there and I think that’s probably and here’s the thing for for fans across the board structure doesn’t change all that much between teams right like there’s one of three systems that you generally run on a forch check yeah the 131 in the neutral zone is a little bit is a little bit different right like that was Gebouche with Tampa in what was that 201 11 and 11 right like the the famous clip is what they were playing Philadelphia and Peter Lavolet wouldn’t move the puck behind the net right like that if that’s what you are going to anticipate um with the Bruins this coming year you’re in for a long 60 minutes you’re in for a long as a fan as a player it’s long i agree if you’re asking if you’re asking me what what would I Right like it’s so different like you come from the from the prep world and the idea here is you want to put as much pressure on 14 to 18 year old kids to make as many decision decisions under pressure right like you can’t do that at the National Hockey League level because everyone supports the puck in five and 10 foot increments they move the puck so quick so yeah would it be great if I said “Hey let’s let’s play this super aggressive 212 which is just two forwards going after the defenseman.” And hey D man you’re going to pinch down on absolutely everything you don’t have you don’t have the roster you don’t have the speed to be able to play that way right now so you are going to have to play that structured 131 what what you’re going to look to try to do is squeeze the puck at the red line and then it’s can I live in transition so I’ve shortened the game right and by that like instead of playing 200 feet like I’ve now just made the game 100 feet and now can my can my offensive players make plays in the in that 100 feet from the red line yeah you’re better off in that area than asking the team to defend for whatever it might be right like 38 minutes of a 60-minute game you’re not going to be able to survive that way if you try to be overly aggressive yeah oh and with the speed part and I don’t mean to I don’t mean to interrupt you like what I you know as a fan as as a as a prep coach I I I you know you want to see speed you want to be aggressive but the current state of the Bruins roster you’re going to have to be more structured and um just tight tighten up a little bit and a little bit more boring like I think be anticipating that like it’ll be a more boring more boring style you can win boring right like I still will not watch the New Jersey Devils right like the New Jersey Devils are on TV and right like they have the Jack Hughes Jack Hughes and Luke Hughes of the world like Nicoir like they’re entertaining can’t do it i still can’t I still can’t watch them based on what was it 94 95 where it was we are going to beat you one nothing 21-1 we’re going to clog up the neutral zone and so I I do think that that’s I think I think that’s what you’re in store for next year and that’s that’s the right decision win two to one like winning 2-1 nothing is better than losing five to four i Well I was also going to say like you think about last year the Bruins would kind of go down two goals and then it would unravel and they’d lose seven to two and all they had all these lopsided games and I think when you play a more structured defense uh focused game plan like that happens less and I and obviously you had injuries last year so you didn’t have Haslind for most of the year you didn’t have Charlie Mackoy for a big part of it um but still like I think having that structure and reverting back to what they were kind of prejim Montgomery um for this roster fits them the best because they are built from the back out like you should you have you have whether people like it or not one of the better goalies in the NHL at least you’re paying them that way you have a pretty good decor when healthy so you just lean into that and I think that’s what they have to do by the way you mentioned the Devils back in like the 90s early 2000s i remember as a kid watching like the Scott Stevens hits uh from back in the day those would all be penalties now they would all be penalties it is like viewing it from today’s lens it’s like that is the dirtiest hit I’ve ever seen like you know Paul Korea passes it and then like 5 seconds later he just gets freaking walloped and nowadays be like all right that’s like a fivegame suspension and there it’s like no keep playing like you know like this is highlight so for me growing up uh I don’t know if I’ve ever said this before on on this show but I only had two posters as a kid ken Griffy Jr that’s why everyone in our era wore their hat backwards and then it was Paul Korea and so that is one of my favorite uh memories from watching a Stanley Cup final um you know Scott Stevens hits him and then you see him walk out onto the bench and then neck neck shift right like blows it by Martin Broador glove side and right what was it gary Thorne like off the floor and on the board yeah iconic it was I mean I still I still watch it like if I’m sitting around uh you know after I’ve done my lesson plans for history um I will I I will periodically watch right like he’s clearly unconscious and he blows the like air right into his mask like love it love it like I guess I think I’ve shared this but um fourth liner in Chicago when I get called up clearly and we’re playing Nashville and they had um they had Forsber and Korea that played together and I can’t remember their third member but like we go out it is a neutral zone faceoff and right Trotz obviously is going to send out their line to play against us and I get to line up next to him and just I got to tell Paul Korea he was uh my favorite player growing up which was which was pretty cool that’s awesome i didn’t know that he was just like “Thank you very much.” Yeah like University of Maine i was just getting into college hockey um and he was obviously dominating with with Jim Montgomery the the Ferraro twins um Sean Walsh as as a coach and they put out a documentary called Out of the Woods and I was just mesmerized by Paul Korea that’s awesome i didn’t know that uh and I didn’t know Paul Cru was your favorite player growing up that makes sense like winger it was like yeah it was you know a myriad of different players it was Cam Neely is a Bruin right like clearly if you grew up in our area you loved him like you wanted to you wanted to be able to score 50 goals and you know hit people and fight people the way he did and then it was Steve Irman and Paul Creer it was But Paul Crier was the only one that I had a a poster for that was on my my wall i met Steve Irish well I’ve met all three of them but I met Steve Irishman as well and uh Christine and I have always said like “Oh if you you meet a celebrity would you know would you be an on?” I’m like “No no way.” Like and uh Steve Eisman was the general manager of the Grand Rapids Griffins and he was always he was always around and like the first time he was ever around um he was standing in our athletic trainers room and I walked from the gym into the athletic training room and it we came face to face and he said like “Hey Carl how you doing?” And all I could get out was like nothing came out it was just nothing that’s great and it he it must happen to him every now and again because all he like he had this ear to ear grin and just started laughing i was like “Oh well there goes my chance.” Like I I’m never going to meet him again so that’s awesome well there you go you know what it still happens see people can get lost completely i want to get into trading the pick and making the pick and kind of those types of things first obviously our friends over at Prize Picks do you know ball because there’s only one series left in the playoffs and the championship is officially on the line that means time is running out for you to put your final takes to the test on Prize Picks the best place to cash in on your favorite sports this year’s basketball playoffs are headed towards crowning a firsttime champ in more than 50 years don’t miss your last chance to cash in on history with prize picks pick more or less on 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uh it’s coming up soon bruins have the seventh pick in the first round obviously that’s the big focus they have two seconds as well um I you know it’s interesting enough because uh Jason Robertson has uh that name has sort of been popped up in trade rumors and I kept I I was like man would I trade the sis this year’s seventh for Jason Robertson 6’3 winger out of Dallas uh a guy who’s consistently produced he’s young i believe he’s affordable is it around like 7 million on his contract he is due one after I believe next season um would you trade the seventh pick for Jason Robertson is it just the seventh pick i would think that should get it done like let’s just in our in our world let’s say it’s the seventh pick for Jason Robertson yeah i mean I don’t want to s I don’t want to sit and wait around like two things right like Yes i mean you’re talking about a 25year-old perennial 80point player that has had two 40 40 plus years of goals i mean those players don’t come around all that often you know the one thing that I can’t account for is right like I think he’s making 77 this year um what is it what what are they going to be asking for after next year right like so I I don’t know the Bruins salary cap but yeah certainly as a player someone to put put alongside uh postnock that right like a lot of his points come from the power play and especially early on in in the year last year for the Bruins like teams were able to key on um postnock on that far left side for the one-time like if you have another scoring threat on that power play that makes you more dynamic um so certainly right like um you’ll see a lot of I think you would see a lot of teams do that I think what would you consider a successful career for the seventh overall pick right like you you see right and like this is what teams try to try to do in order to make these trades right like the likelihood of success for that seventh o overall pick versus a 25 year old guy that is I think he’s more than a point a game in his career i think he’s got like 39 394 points in 320 games or something like that like those that’s hard to come around and to be able to pair him with David Pashnock i think it would I I I think it would cost you more i don’t I don’t know i don’t know what the Dallas Star is looking for probably players that like more control like that seventh overall pick and is it a potential prospect i don’t know that you had the prospect to to make that happen but if it’s just the seventh overall pick and even if it’s the seventh overall pick and the Bruins top prospect yeah I’m still probably doing that um and that and can I put context on top of that too you more than welcome to yeah the context here being you’re not in a you’re in an original six city where fans have expectations jason Robertson moves you more to a playoff team and then as you start to surround Robertson and Poshnock and Makavoy and Lynholm and Slayment like that’s a good core now now now you’re now you’re getting close into that contending area so that’s why I would do it here in Boston now if if I’m in a you know if I’m in a more patient if I’m in a more patient um fan base right like I’m a obviously coming again coming from this world um this prep world I’m big on on development you know with development and as you have people for four and for four years comes culture too right like you can instill that culture all the way up provided right like at the pro level that you have uh the right player development um group that’s working with with those players like I I think yeah I think the context of being in an original six in a big city where expectations are to at least be moving towards a path of of being a contending team like I would seventh overall pick for Jason Robertson so I mean essentially we’re talking Jake O’Brien Brady Martin but like Roger McQueen for what is an established scoring star in the league yes yes I would do that that was a long-winded answer no but you you landed the plane and you got to the interesting point and I you know my thing with it is because I’ve been thinking about this this week and I was asking Ty Anderson and Connor Ryan uh if they would do it and it was it elicited a pretty good discussion and neither said like you an idiot it would take more than the seventh so I’m going to say like seventh for Jason Robertson who has one year left on a pretty affordable deal like you’d probably have to add in like a prospect or maybe a future like third round pick or something but like the seventh overall pick is a valuable pick especially for a team like the Stars who are cap constrained where it’s like hey here’s a chance that you know they they just uh got ranted in they have a good core there like Robertson obviously is fantastic from the Bruins perspective like you’re 100% right robertson’s established i mean I can go through you know pointswise 80 points this past year 80 points the year before 109 the year before that 79 um when he was 22 41 goals as a 22y old 46 as a a 23 year old 35 last year like this is an you’re and you’re and you are in desperate need of help on the left side at left wing i mean Geeki’s been playing left wing it’s a right shot basically a right shot center playing left wing zaka has been over there at left wing too but he’s a center so you’re getting a true number one left wing in Robertson and you’re getting established player who’s 25 who can grow with Posternok Makavoy those guys however you still don’t have a franchise center and I’m not guaranteeing that that seventh overall pick is going to be a franchise center because I think this draft is at least according to experts sort of short on you know number one bonafide franchise centers as you can like okay that’s you know Mlin Celibbrin is going to be number one center Conor McDavid number one center Conor Baddard number one center but at seven you should get a center who projects as a top six regular as a guy who can potentially get you over like averaging over 60 points a season and that’s valuable and that’s hard to get and so that’s where I kind of teeter where I’m like do do you trade the seventh overall pick and and and Robertson you know It seems to be he’s on the trade block mason Marchman’s another guy with the stars on the trade block but do you trade that seventh overall pick for a wing an established wing and I want to say yes but I keep going back to like I kind of want to see a guy like a Jake O’Brien see what he can be as a potential number one center someday and and you can draft that later and they have first round picks in future years right like you have two first next year i think you’re going to have two first as well in 2027 that’s fantastic but you stunk all year and you get the seventh pick to take a big swing with a higher percentage chance of getting a franchise center some people might call me crazy i think I heir on the side of making that seventh pick in that in that situation and so now I’m going to come back to the question that I asked you at the beginning like for that seventh overall pick so just Jake O’Brien is the is the name that you use what does success look like for you like so you just said 60 points over the course of a a career right like 60 total points yeah 60 sorry 60 points a year yes for an established period of time so you’re looking at a you’re looking at Right i think this is a name we used the other day like a David Crerache type player right so you you get 10 12 years you’re what’s that that’s 600 to 720 points now can I can I go a a little nerdy on you please do the seventh overall pick to get to 750 points the likelihood of that happening is just under 10% it’s like 9.8% did you go and did you go through all the seventh overall picks to figure that out or is that just I no I this was like I knew that this was a a possibility of a conversation so you go through it’s a hockey writers.com and they will give you out all the percentages of uh like games played for each first round pick and then it gives you potential points so right here in front of me out of the 61 7th overall picks only six only six in history have ever had more than 750 points only one is at a thousand right do you remember who the one do you remember who the one was oh no i have don’t don’t ask me to go that deep i I Okay so what So and so now this now this is my point so I know that I have someone that is on that trajectory right like as a winger no doubt 400 points basically and so are you more attractive then in um trade scenarios are you more attractive in free agency because now right like as an established player across the league am I going to want to uh give up my no trade clause or uh sign in free agency with the Bruins because I’m waiting on Jake O’Brien who I think we would say probably isn’t going to be in the league for certainly not going to be in the league next year right no I would I would put him at like two maybe even three years out right and and the three-year portion of it is traditionally the Bruins are are you know outside of a Patrice Berseron like they’re they’re pretty conservative with their um with their prospects right like so yeah I’m taking Jason Robinson um I’m I’m going to be active in free agency um I’m going to see if if and this is me again the context being that it’s it’s the Boston Bruins and you know I think I think you can do a little bit of both but I think if if Dallas was saying seventh overall for Jason Robinson I I I think I would do it no it makes sense and to go back to your question of like what would make a seventh overall pick successful for what they need to me it’s a guy who is a playmaker is making his wings better is you know can you know can help drive a line at times can help ignite the power play and O’Brien to me fits at least projection-wise and for what he’s been in junior fits all those things doesn’t mean he’s going to be those things and that’s the tough part and this is the thing I have trouble with is you’re 100% right it’s like do you want $900,000 or do you want a chance at a million that’s a like it that’s a that’s a it’s a tough cell I think and so you know in terms of success like all the things I just said and if you want like point totals to me it’s averaging about 60 points a season so that starts at around you know 40 50 and then hopefully in their prime they’re around 70 sometimes getting into 80 um and being your top line center or centering your second line and because to me you just don’t have a lot of that but you also don’t have a lot of guys on the wing now the thing that we’ve talked about uh on this show as well is like as I said earlier you have more firsts you have two seconds this year so it’s entirely possible that you get you know that you draft wingers later on you could also draft centers later on in the draft who end up hitting berseron was a second round pick cr was a second round pick kind of keeping to keep it local jason Robinson was a second round pick he was a second round pick he was a 39th overall pick by the Stars so like I I think this is it’s a good debate because and the other thing that you mentioned like he fits the Robertson would fit the core here fit the age of the core but then that completely changes your direction because you’re not retooling really anymore if your top six has Robertson and Posternok and your top D pairing is let’s just say Hamus Lindolman Charlie Makavoy and your goalie is Jeremy Swayman like you’re retooling but you’re competitive like you’re a much more competitive team and then do you start to then trade your other picks for guys and the other thing is if you get Jason Robertson you better be damn well sure that you are going to be the team you’re going to sign him to an extension like that has to happen and he might end up making more or at least close to David Posternok at 11 and a half I would think yeah yeah and I think that’s got to be part like you know if you’re going to enter into those conversations with trading that seventh pick you’re going to you’re going to get in on those uh extension talks I would imagine right right away right like that is um a conversation that needs to be had like you want him around for more than just the year because you’re you’re not truly a contender next year so he like at 25 right like now nowadays that is what is that someone coming out of their senior year at Boston College at Western that’s their junior year at Western Michigan yeah okay right like so I mean he is he is a young talented player that is part of anyone’s core across the league um but yeah you’re gonna you’re gonna want to have him and I think his agent’s Pat Prson he’s he’s going to do well in any contention yeah he’s he’s going to do pretty well he’s going to make money yeah we’ll see it’ll be interesting to see i mean I doubt Robertson gets traded um I I don’t know how you do that i know that uh they have other pieces but to me I’d sacrifice depth um for Robertson and that’s where Mason Marchman comes in mason Marchman’s name has been floated out as a potential trade guy as well he’s 29 he makes 4 a.5 million he’s got one more year left before um being an unrestricted free agent before uh the 26-27 season just to give you an idea of his stats he had 22 goals and 47 points last year 22 and 53 in 81 games the year before um has kind of hovered around that the last couple of years he’s 6’5 212 pounds uh left wing i would do that like I think what well that’s a good question we’re not talking We’re not talking 17 year old pick no god no god no um you talking one of like second rounders and then Well I Dallas So this is the thing right like Dallas capwise doesn’t have much right they don’t have much in terms of cap space and they’re probably going to have to shed like I don’t know how you bring back Jamie Ben they have Mle Granland uh who I initially that was the rumor that they wanted to resign him and that was kind of like why Robertson might end up getting the axe um Marchment likely is probably going to make a lot of money as a uh UFA next season because he’s 6’5 he’s a good like middle six guy um in terms of a trade for him like I mean cuz you know like you’re probably looking at as you said like is it a second um can you can you capitalize on the fact that Dallas needs to move him uh or might need to if they want to resign other players and you’re sort of kind of holding them over the barrel and you get him at a lower price i just think he’s too coveted that I don’t think you’re getting him like on the cheap um so again I would assume he’s probably what like a second round pick is that too much for a guy with one year left and so like the player I think if this was someone that was on that 22 23 23 24 it’s someone that you’re willing to give up assets for i think in the current situation with where your roster is like he’s a really good player on a contending team be because he can he can play multiple ways right like you Florida Panthers are winning because they can play any style that you want to play you want to play running gun I can do that you want to play physical we can certainly do that like I think Mason Marchment like in that second third line like he can he can play a myriad of different ways i just don’t think he gets you over the top next year right like talking about trading him and he’s you know one year out from an extension he doesn’t make you a playoff contending team next year and is he necessarily a great fit with Passion probably not i don’t I I don’t know right i think I think what you’re looking at is someone that Yeah if he’s on your second line you’re could be a playoff team he’s you’re on your third line like you’re really good and I just don’t think you’re I don’t think you’re there right i don’t think you’re there yet to make the trade for Mason Marchman and then at the age of 30 try to extend him where Jason Robertson is a established star that is really young i think that’s the only difference between the player like I I think you Mason Marshman is like who’s close like who who’s like a I don’t I don’t know like a team that’s that’s really just second round conference finals consistently that just needs to get over that top with a little bit of forward depth like he’s a he’s a he’s a really good player for one of those teams and you’re not you’re not there yet you’re not there no you’re not but I do think you do need some talent and he can give you that and it’s a it’s less pricey and he comes at a pretty good discount of four and a half you know the question is do you extend him um I mean if they want to if they’re going to play the way Sturm seems to want them to play he probably fits that structured physical hard checking kind of build and I I look at Marchman as sort of like maybe this is a bad way to look at it but like a stop gap sort of a bridge to that next core that’s going to supplement PostnO and and those guys and I think he fits somewhere in there it just comes down to what’s the other part of it is like what’s his price going to be next off season like let’s just say you traded a second for let’s just say it’s a second for Mason Marchman that second’s a valuable asset and if Mason Marchman leaves in the offseason well that’s a waste because Mason as you said Mason Marchman’s not making you a cup contender now if you trade a second for Marchment and he immediately extends here for what is it six six and a half million per for six seven years like maybe that’s better like maybe that is a good value get for you six years at 30 for like like a larger player um like you’re pro you’re right like is he is he going to get that amount of money i don’t know like on the term that that’s something that that he’s going to get but yeah the six six and a half sounds about right like I I just worry about like the g the game and is geared towards speed yeah like c certainly Florida has right like has done it with physicality but speed as well i just worry what does that what does that look like at the end of the end of the contract where you know historically uh larger larger players like break down a little bit yeah absolutely um so I don’t know i just think where you’re at right now I I would I would take my if I would take my picks and try to to develop them into a future Boston Bruins as opposed to do a stop gap towards a player that you may lose and doesn’t make you a definitive playoff contender next year if that makes sense yeah i mean and this hits my next question for you and this is something else I wanted to get into is like uh with the pick one thing Fudo Sha uh The Athletic did a mock draft earlier this week and uh Fudo Shinzawa got spiced it up a little bit and had the Bruins trading Pavl Zaka and Marat Houston off to Vancouver for the 15th overall pick and Niles Hoglander which like I would have no issue doing um would you want them to potentially trade guys off the current roster to get into this first round to get another pick in this first round let’s even say it’s not that trade like would you support them trading um obviously not a posternock or a Makavoy but a roster player to get back into this first round yeah I think I think I think the one thing that I feel like I need to say is your core is still really good like if you look at and and by that I mean Jeremy Swayman is a really good goalender yep like if not one of the best in the league top echelon makavoy Lynholm like Passion like you don’t want to waste the prime of of those players bingo career to try to trade back into the first round you know let’s just use that as a scenario at 15 to get a player that not going to be around for three years and so you know as a fan base like right like if you start trading players off your current roster to get into the draft no but Hoglander is like a 30 point player in the National Hockey League i’ll look it up he had 22 goals a year ago somewhere around there like a nice a nice player um but I I I wouldn’t want to see them do that just to get back into into this draft like I’m not my acumen for what the prospect pool like I’ve looked at all the mock drafts and certainly have hard not to it’s so fun that’s like the one yeah no it’s a ton of fun and I have some understanding of like who the US porn players are that are that are floating around that that area but yeah I would take my seven if I didn’t get Jason Robertson i would develop that player that hopefully maybe two years from now they’re playing for the Boston Bruins and stick with my current roster i don’t I don’t think that this is the draft that they want to be trading plays but if they do that you you right like you’ve talked about a couple times here rebuild or retool and if they trade to get back in and they’re trading current players off their roster I mean I think that sends a signal to to fans to players like what they’re actually trying to do yeah and it’s tough trading Zaka because he is valuable he makes four and a half million and plays every role he plays every position like that’s a guy you want he works with Posternok my thing is more so I I see if they traded back if not traded back if they traded for another first this year to me that signals with four first round picks in the next two drafts that they’re going to trade those picks for players like in a perfect world you would trade into this first round to get another first you get a guy in the teens if it’s Jackson Smith a defenseman or Carter Bayer like a wing someone like that that’s a high-end prospect it’s not a top 10 prospect that’s a really likely a really good prospect and you come out of this draft with two first round picks in a perfect world for a Jason Robertson you would trade a 2026 first or a 2027 because the idea obviously is okay let’s say you get the two first this year they don’t come into the league for two to three years and yeah that’s a long time but your first next year aren’t coming into the league for two to three years after that for four years down the road 2027 it’s five years down the road and that doesn’t really fit with Posternok and Makavoy and Swayman’s primes whereas if you do get two this year it is kind of long it’s two maybe three years but you’re getting them in their late 20s early 30s you’re getting them still in their prime i’m talking about your current core and if you want to trade those a future first or two for established NHL players like that option’s on the table too if you’re asking me would you trade like the 2026 like your 2026 first for Jason Robertson i’d say yeah absolutely like I want to make the seventh pick this year that’s my biggest thing i want to see what that comes out to be i want to see what sort of your quote unquote this is a bad way to put it but prize was for this past season but your future first like I’m okay with dealing one of those for Jason Robertson absolutely yeah but then I think and so now if we’re talking solely Jason Robertson I think the idea with with Dallas is they have some uh control cost at this number seven overall pick but that player too like the same reason you’re saying hey it next year’s first round pick 2026 pick isn’t going to be with the Boston Bruins for two three four years right like that’s the same thing that Dallas like Dallas is in a window right like they’ve been in the conference finals here for an extended period of time like they need to get over uh over that hump a little bit and this seventh overall pick like like like you say like can make an impact maybe a year from now right like not this current year but that you know that that second year and I think that’s why that seventh overall pick would be um attractive to a Jason Robinson trade like whether they’re looking for something additional like a prospect or something i don’t know but I don’t I don’t think you’d be able to get a future 2026 pick for for Jason Robertson um yeah or a player even comparable my thing again I go back to Robertson it’s tough because he’s a wing and that’s what I go back to and like I the reason I like them signing Mitch Marner is because you don’t give up anything for it you just it’s salary cap space and that’s important but the cap’s going up and contracts do get cheaper over time and this and that and like you’re not giving up assets and so with Robertson it’s tough because you’d giving up you let’s in the hypothetical we gave you’re giving up the seventh overall pick which is a very valuable pick um likely to be a very good player um ah it’s tough and I don’t I don’t know i don’t think he probably ever gets traded like that’s an odd world in which Dallas just like lets him go um but yeah so we spent we spent 45 minutes talking about a trade that won’t work welcome to Welcome to June but it could but it could and I tweeted out I said you know the universe needs like the reverse Tyler Sean trade like somehow the Bruins trade like Casey Middlestat and like Andrew Peak for Tyler Sean or excuse me for um Jason Robertson just to reverse the Tyler Sean trade i think it’s only fair that uh that that’s how that goes july 4th trade right wasn’t it that was July 4th 2013 that was a hell of a day uh before we go is there someone you really like at seven is there someone that you’re like that’s my that’s who I hope the Bruins pick it’s realistic obviously yeah richard Golant that’s I like Richard Golant the seventh overall pick i can get behind that i can Yeah no um you know obviously I’ve done a little bit of research i think you hit me with that seventh you hit me with that seventh overall stat now I’m I’m sitting here like damn I was not ready for that right hook yeah I I Yeah I think they’re they’re comparable between Jake O’Brien and David Creeche right like a pass first can fit in on that second line i think that that’s someone that I would be comfortable with but I you know and I’ve I’ve said this to you I don’t know for a couple of weeks now at least i really think that Brady Martin’s going to be on the table i I I think the style of play that the style of game that he plays right like is is is something that the Bruins organization traditionally has liked and if he’s a comparable to I know I saw him at the combine um talk about being uh Tom Wilson Matthew Ny kind of I don’t think he’s that size of a player no he’s just Yeah maybe more of like a Travis Kknney but right like if you could get if you could go back and I think Kknney was 24th overall but if you knew that Travis Kknney was going to be Travis Kneknney would you take him at seven i don’t know enough about the players i just would as a Bruins fan I would keep an eye on on Brady Martin there are some people I’ve talked to who think Brady Martin won’t even be available at seven like there’s a like I know Connor Ryan thinks like Brady Martin picked earlier like yeah whether or Utah like Utah’s an interesting spot because they weren’t supposed to have that fourth pick they’ve made high picks in the past who are centers they have guys like Logan Culie and Clayton Keller on the roster um did they go for sort of the highest floor which Martin is like Martin seems like he has the highest floor of all those guys i love Brady Martin i think I’ve said this to you u you know over text like I love him every time I read about him every time I listen to him I’m like I love this kid this is a guy I want on my team i just think you need skill more you need uh you need a playmaker you need someone who has that high-end offensive ceiling and O’Brien provides that from everything I’ve seen and watched and read he provides that and I completely get that Brady Martin fits is is more probably of atypical Bruin but O’Brien fits more of what you actually need and if they do build through the wing if you know they do this offseason go out and sign like a Brock Besser let’s just say or Nikolai Eers and you have David Posterno like you need a good playmaking center and O’Brien seems at least seems to fit that bill and McQueen’s a tough one too because McQueen 6 foot five intriguing player but back injury this year i don’t know if you want to dive into that yet i I don’t know if you’re in a spot where you can take that big of a swing um but O’Brien to me is the guy so far but I know like you know again a lot of people love Brady Martin too and where are you at if like someone like Orone follows you like who at times was uh you know second overall prospect had some talk right like in and around I remember when they played the national program in that what was it the CHL’s prospects game kind of thing um or series right like he was getting some some love for a number one overall pick but he’s a winger what are you what are you doing Evan you’re right if falls to you i mean it it depends how the chips fall and it’s like you know if Brady Martin goes in that top six that shifts everything because I I think you know as much as we talk about him in the top six I don’t know like we don’t consider him as like a top six pick yet like I look at like obviously Schaefer and Misa should be gone immediately then you have guys like Hagens Denoier Fell where do they go mart I put in that as well if Martin goes in there he shifts everything down so like does if Marton does fall to you you have this big powerful playmaking right winger who seems to be a little bit of a unicorn it’s a hard guy not to pick go ahead sorry well it’s a hard guy just to pass over and say “Well we’re gonna you know we wanted a center.” Like at seven you’re still drafting best available I think yeah I think that’s what you you got to do with character is the most important thing right like character best best available player with with character in mind right like and I think you put yourself in a pretty good position to be successful if Yeah like if you’re looking at their character and you’re taking the best available player I think in the long run you’re you’re going to be pretty good well we hit on everything today we spent a lot of time on trades and picks i always gosh I hope Jason Robertson comes here now that’s right for all the time we spent he bet they You know what i’m on board make that trade baby seventh overall for Jason Robertson i’m gonna call Jim Neil right now that’s right all for us spending time on him well Carl it’s always fun we’ll have you on uh throughout the offseason different times people I always see the comments on these they’re like “Where’s Carl?” We love Carl i’m glad he’s here so I’m glad you’re here too first day of summer too which is a it’s an honor um but that’s that that’s uh that’s Brun Beach thank you for having me i appreciate it love talking hockey and remember to go eat at Lockantina that’s the big thing that’s true go eat at Framingham Massachusetts 135 go support a local business if you don’t live either um but that’s Bruinsbe i’m Evan Marinowski Bruins listeners have a great rest of your week [Music]

On this episode of Bruins Beat, Evan Marinofsky and Carl Corazzini dive into the Marco Sturm hire and Carl reveals his favorite childhood players (and his funny encounters with them). The guys also discuss trading the No. 7 pick for Jason Robertson, as well as what a Mason Marchment deal might look like. Would they even make sense? Plus, who should they pick at No. 7? 

0:00 – Welcome in Guest
1:26 – Bruins hire Marco Sturm as head coach
5:45 – Is Marco Sturm the guy that can take him to the Cup in 4 years
11:45 – How will the Bruins play next season
17:26 – Carl Shares his favorite Paul Kariya moment
19:25 – Carl’s favorite players growing up
20:54 – Prizepicks
22:20 – Should Bruins trade for Jason Robertson
36:43 – Should Bruins trade for Mason Marchment?
43:16 – Should Bruins trade players to get back into 1st Round?
47:35 – Would you trade future first for Jason Robertson?
50:21 – Any Prospects you like for Bruins at 7?
55:42 – Wrapping up

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