Kevin Durant STAYING With Phoenix Suns Is WILDEST Outcome For NBA

Kevin Durant STAYING With Phoenix Suns Is WILDEST Outcome For NBA

kevin or Ant staying on the Suns it’s about as likely as me naming my kid Goku psychos and sickos unite for another draft deep dive and of course Kevin Ran edition of PHNX Suns coming to you live from Studio K presented by Circle K join the inner circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today terms and conditions apply at participating locations visit circlek.com for more details i’m Eric that’s Gerald we got Steven to my left the freckled Mamba Eritton behind the Mac making all of the magic happen but of course the most important people all of you filing in in the chat here on a Wednesday afternoon be Stefano Wow Factor Leo Plume so many familiar faces some new faces as well all you got to do make sure you hit that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button we will be going live five days a week every single week plus breaking news podcasts and so much more all for you to cover your Phoenix Suns first order of business though it’s been a massive massive day at the All 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Los Angeles Lakers selling for a record for a sports franchise at 10 billion that Luca trade’s making a little more sense huh a little bit i’m not a conspiracy theorist so I’m not even gonna I don’t want to I don’t want to give this credence here but some fishy stuff it’s okay gerald fishy stuff and Stephen you are both two of the most levelheaded basketball personalities and analysts that the game has yep you can’t tell me this crap isn’t weird you can’t say it’s not weird to connect some of the dots here it’s weird could it be though that they just they got Luca the valuation rose up and the buses were like “All right time to cash out to10 billion.” It must be really nice to just walk backwards into Luka Donuch and then sell your team huh must be pretty nice yeah i I don’t know i listen I that’s all I’m saying is Yeah and I mean she gets to keep her governorship too so it’s not like she’s completely out why buy the team if you don’t get to be the governor so who bought the team Eric oh the owner of the Dodgers oh good which is just a great deep by the way wonderful seems like Walter or something all rich people are named Walter uh this dude’s named Walter and he tried to buy the Clippers and then lost to Steve Balmer and then went Stephen and bought the Dodgers and the Lakers so I hate this guy yeah he he aligns with everything that you that you just could absolutely hate no more so Give us a fire which is the meanest thing Steven’s ever said about anyone i’m trying to think i feel like he might say something to you but not on camera uh he You don’t want to know what this guy says about me off camera okay uh he bought the team that has Luca Donage on it already my least favorite basketball franchise of all time sure check also bought the Dodgers my my maybe my least favorite franch one that’s definitely your least favorite the Dodgers sure yes 100 pure genuine evil are the Los Angeles Dodgers uh any anyway uh we are not PHNX Lakers and so we are PHNX Suns welcome in everybody here there is a lot going on in the realm of Kevin Durant as we continue to wait for that news to drop uh nothing major has happened on that front no big time reports yet it just kind of feels like we’re we’re waiting for the big news gerald are are you sick of this yeah I’ve been sick of this and I was gone for a month so I can’t imagine how sick were you not like checking your phone while you were gone like I was but most of the updates were minor it’s like feels like inching forward towards an inevitable conclusion and we still haven’t gotten there it’s still it’s every day it’s just something we’ve heard before just said a little differently or there’s a little extra morsel attached to it so yeah I’m I’m kind of sick of it i would like to know okay this is what Kevin Durant is being traded for or in the very unlikely scenario that they don’t find a trade that they like Kevin Durant’s coming back and now we need to get everybody back on the same page after months of speculation about what a future without Kevin Durant is going to look like i don’t know what else to add to that i keep I mean what more can we say yeah yeah i mean I’m I’m so Hey listen great for business i’m like I’m sitting here listening to Joe i’m like you know it’s it’s good to hear a a refreshing perspective but Mhm but I’m over it yeah I’m over talking about this there’s nothing concrete either and that’s kind of what frustrates me you know and and especially here at PHNX like we’ve been putting together these like fake trades and potential trades like all the way back to the beginning of this year when the Butler stuff started and then then some KD stuff leaked into that as well by the way I don’t want to gloss over it we did have a a donation uh from Anonymous a $20 donation from Anonymous thank you all so much we raised almost $150 on the Sunundevil show and there are way more people in here than the Sunundevil show y’all better not lose to the Sunundevil show hit that donate button make us We got to beat the Wildcat show too because they came in with more after that so we don’t talk about can’t lose to the college shows anymore we We don’t Come on the college shows who’s on the college shows right me this guy so we are kind of attacking it from a different angle today which is what if the unlikely happens now we all agree let’s put a percentage on it percent that Kevin gets traded from the Phoenix Suns gerald um it’s the same as that skim milk about 2% no that he does get traded oh that he does get traded it’s the inverse of that the 98% then stephen is is 98% too low for you no 98 low that’s about what I expected i still think the back door is open for a potential return but the merits that that’s going to have to come back on I don’t know yeah I think a return for Kevin Durant is about as likely as me getting a tan it’s just not going to happen that being said there was Brian Winhorse on ESPN Cleveland the other day who had this to say about the whole situation and ends up Brian it’s a real staredown you know Desmond Bane got traded for four first round picks and I see people saying “Oh my god if Desmond Bane gets traded for four first round picks Kevin Durant’s got to be get you got to get six first round picks.” No you’re not going to get that great of a package because the team paying for it isn’t sure what Durant’s going to do necessarily and the teams that Durant wants to go to Houston and San Antonio for example they’re lary of give paying a huge amount for a 37 year old their whole teams are in their early to mid20s right you know so you don’t have alignment in making everybody getting on the same page you know what Durant wants what the Suns need what the teams want to pay right with the contract i would not rule out the Suns not being able to get a trade they like and having to make a decision like do we not trade him at all first of all the alignment tracker check awesome great uh spreading out to the national media but but Stephen you know bringing up the Desmond Bane thing saying that the Suns are not going to give get as good of a package and then saying at the same time maybe they just look at this at the end of the day and say “Fine we’ll just keep Kevin Durant.” What What’s the benefits for the Suns of of keeping Kevin Durant presumably not signing him to a contract extension and just playing out his last season here in Phoenix well keeping Kevin Durant would align with the retool wording because you’re keeping the literal foundation of the team that you built the past two seasons and just fixing on the margins so in a literal sense that would align with it as much as anything else but I think the other thing is I’m curious what Jordan not wants as far as his roster going in the next season is he assessing trades with Brian Gregory and company and saying I would rather just see what we can do with that and then you know revisit this going through the into the season or you know whatever the case may be um I imagine they would like to just get a fresh deck excluding obviously Devin Booker and just rock forward with that but I don’t know remains to be seen i don’t think it’s out of the realm and that 2% is kind of the loudest 2% you could get michael Evans makes a good point in the chat gerald says what they sucked last year is there is there any world where you can actually build a competitive team around Booker Beal and Durant because it’s not just hey KD’s going to be back next year if he’s there you’re likely also looking at having Beal as well there is a world and there’s this naive probably dumb part of me that looks back at last season and says “What if you had had a decent center and what if you had had a decent head coach instead of what you had in Yousef Nerkach and then going to Mason Plumbley and then going to a rookie and then going to Nick Richards um none of which at this point should be starting caliber centers on a team if you want to win basketball games and be be a playoff contender.” There’s a part of me that wonders okay Jordan if he is the real deal if he comes in and does a lot of the things that we thought Mike Benhoer might do gets them to play faster gets them to shoot more threes and play a more modern style of basketball there’s a lot of talent at his disposal if Kevin Durant does come back but at the same time like we saw under two different head coaches and they were both the wrong head coaches i want to make that clear but under two different head coaches we saw this team spiral out by the end of the season and for me that’s enough to be like you have to move on if you do wind up bringing Kevin Durant back it’s because you exhausted your options they weren’t good enough and at that point it was like well what’s the point of even trading Kevin Durant and at that point you’re looking at him leaving in free agency for nothing next summer which really hurts you maybe more than getting an underwhelming return now what what’s the rule on him signing an extension here how early after that can you be traded is it like 6 months halfway through the season because because to me what I’m looking at right now is I I don’t see a world where the Suns can actually be competitive next year even with KD and I don’t even look at it as Devin Booker and Kevin Durant together it feels like you’ve gone past the point of no return obviously Kevin Durant didn’t outright ask to be traded you tried to deal him behind his back it’s like putting the toothpaste back in the tube like that that just doesn’t work here right but you’re not going to get good offers for him or at least that’s what we’re hearing is the Suns have no leverage kd is older and he doesn’t have a contract extension and that means that he might be able to to veto trades or say I’m not going to go there and then a team like the Timberwolves loses interest you know all these things are on the table right now if KD signs a contract extension with Phoenix who has his bird rights the same as any team that that trades for him and you sign a contract extension and you pay him the most amount of money he could possibly get entering I would believe that would be his year 40 season mhm at what point can you trade him after that because I do wonder if it gets to a point where the Suns go to Rich Kimman and go to KD and say “Look we understand that both sides are are ready to move on here but we’re not letting you go for nothing at all and we know that you want your contract extension let’s work this out and revisit this at the deadline or next off season.” I mean it’s possible i guess if we’re talking in the realm of possibility and KD is actually back it’s possible but it’s going to be the longer you wait the harder it is to trade Kevin Durant even if you do lock him into an extension and he’s got more on his contract um I think that would maybe make it easier to trade him but at the same time you’re getting a worse return at that point because months have passed everybody knows that you’ve been trying to trade this guy for probably over a year now at that point um so I don’t know it’s tough i I think you really want to get a deal done within the next week if you are trying to trade Kevin Durant that’s what it seems like for me too it feels like the longer you wait the less you the less you potentially get in return but also the less likely that you’re able to push something across the finish line given the the inevitable nature of his contract just simply expiring and naturally if you’re the Suns the last thing you want is to get absolutely nothing in return for someone that could even get you even if it is just multiple picks or multiple pieces that you can kind of retool with i I wonder if some of the concerns about Kevin Durant would be eased if they see him you know continue and maintain his level of play into next season and and I know it’s kind of tricky for the teams trading for him too is you know you don’t want to empty your war chest for somebody that you just don’t know if he’s going to be able to maintain but you look at Katie stats and and you look at how he’s been over the last five six seven years i mean sure he he’s had definitely better seasons than his past one but if you watch the tape especially Stephen if you look at how he’s moving he’s not moving like somebody who’s going to be 37 this year at all not even a little bit he hasn’t moved that way in at any point in his career he feels like he’s been ahead of what could be anticipated for a player with his size and his stature and I think that the thing that’s going to probably hurt more than anything though is the age part because that’s what we continue to hear about the age the age the age people say less about his his actual encore product because he was just all NBA caliber yet again in his age what 37 seasons so it’s just what he does and people are just going to point at the age because that’s the only hole that you can kind of poke at in terms of weaknesses with him right now yeah i I would say like Kevin Durant we know he’s going to still be at an AllNBA level until possibly the day that he retires like him and LeBron are the two main outliers in NBA history that have continued to produce at all-star levels this late into their careers there’s nobody that comes close to those two in my mind um the issue obviously is availability for me and that’s tied in with the age like you know you look at the last few seasons the the first full season that the Suns had Kevin Durant he played 75 games and that was fantastic and the Suns were the six seed in the West because of it last year he misses 20 games and we saw what the team looked like when he was not on the floor um and that’s why we keep pointing to the difficulty of a Kevin Durant trade is if you are trading for Kevin Durant you have to have the right infrastructure to where the pieces that you’re giving up do not [ __ ] you to where if like the Suns position if Kevin Durant is out you’re in real trouble you have to be a team that already has a built-in base that can afford to trade for him and that if Kevin Durant is off the floor you’re still a good team you have to be a Kevin Durant away from contending for this trade to make sense and that’s why he hasn’t been traded despite the fact that he’s still a top 10 player in the world despite the fact that he’s played 75 and 62 games over the last few seasons you you just have to worry about how many teams can pull this trade off and how many teams if he you know misses 25 30 games can afford to shoulder that burden when he’s out there i like what Thawn said in the chat shout out Thawn always consistent he been around the last couple of weeks he came around when Gerald left oh he’s No he’s been around for longer than that was he really oh yeah yeah Thawn says the question should be can the Suns win the title if they keep KD if you don’t think they can then they should trade him for assets right keeping Kevin Durant might make next season better but Stephen you’re also then kind of pigeon holeing yourself and pushing down this rebuild and kicking the can down the road i just I I think it would be fun if you felt like you could field a competitive roster but even if you fixed some of the things that Gerald mentioned the coach which you hope they did with a or the center position that’s not not a championship team it might not be a championship team but it will be a step in the right direction but is it worth doing the right direction if it means that you you’re maybe just inevitably staring at the wrong direction as soon as he leaves then anyway and maybe leaving for nothing facts yep because that’s I I mean that’s the main thing too because I I don’t know if he would even sign an extension to be here i think if he stays for some reason this season which again I think is extremely unlikely i would he want to hit free agency at that age too because there’s some counter leverage there Gerald of like hey you know you might not want to go sign a contract extension in Minnesota right but we won’t sign you to a contract extension here and maybe they’re the only ones who are really wanting you and are willing to offer that are you going to test yourself and and with your injuries and with your availability turn down a contract extension guaranteed hundred million plus dollars for the next couple of years of your career yeah that’s tough because it and it depends on how these trade negotiations shake out because if you’re banking on the guaranteed money and signing that extension you’re banking on okay part two or part three of trying to work with this team to trade me is going to have to go better than it did last time or I can just take matters into my own hands and I can I’m Kevin Durant somebody’s going to sign me to a one year or twoear max deal so I think for him at that point maybe he doesn’t have as much incentive unless he believes that he could actually stay here because we should bear in mind like Kevin Durant did want to stay here like maybe you know his name being volunteered in trade negotiations without his say so has changed that um but this guy wanted to retire here he wanted to play here um and I think he’s as bummed as anybody that the way that this last two and a half years have worked out if you can go back in time and you could change history would you have the Suns not shop him at the deadline yes yeah i’ would you would you stop him there but still try to trade him this off season uh maybe i I’ve been on the on the boat that like you have to find a way to get out of Bradley Beal and keep Kevin Durant because you can still build a winner around Kevin Durant and Devin Booker the problem is Bradley Beal maybe that’s not realistic but it does kind of feel like they moved on to okay we got to you know move on from Kevin Durant a little too quickly and at the trade deadline if you’re going to do that you have to pull the trigger on the deal you can’t let that sort of thing fester because now you’re in this situation where you’re less than a week away from the draft and you still haven’t figure this thing out yeah that’s that’s the thing for me with it i don’t know they just kind of back themselves into a corner for me it’s it’s It’s less about the Durant part of it and it continues to be about the Bill part of it if you don’t get yourself involved with that in particular that changes the trajectory of everything yeah in terms of the roster being built around Durant and Booker what you can do with the pieces around them in terms of maneuvering trades and things like that it just gets tough uh one of the questions in the chat um I can’t remember who it was someone asked about if the Suns can contend or yeah contend for a championship going into next season i’ll probably say there’s like a 10 or 15% chance and that’s higher than I thought you were going to say i mean there’s a little bit of Durant still potentially being around that’s involved in that obviously that drops if he’s not around anymore to probably like 10 or 5% but I think there’s a chance it’s a chance i mean we just saw the Indiana Pacers go up against all the odds and get there this season and we saw the Knicks beat the beat the Celtics albeit the context matters m if a few things shake in your favor and you hit a hot streak maybe the continuity everybody’s hashtag aligned from the start of training camp through the finish line jordan you’ve seen crazier things happen before jordan Kn’s winning coach of the year yeah on this trajectory i mean yeah if listen man if the Suns are competing for a championship next year I mean that that definitely means that that is in the coach of the year conversation and that means that Gregory is an executive of the year and that Deon Booker is probably an MVP candidate if especially if we’re banking on Kevin Durant being traded the only way I think that they compete is if they 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we have three different big boards for you our top five players for the Suns if they trade up in the draft our top five if they stay at the end of the first round at 29 and our top five second round prospects we’re going to get you to those plus we have a special guest playing musical chairs with us you’re going to want to stick around and see who it is all after our first break if you love Wendy’s classic frosty flavors congratulations uf taste buds but now they have some big news there’s all new Frosty Swirls and Frosty Fusion flavors that you can get in either chocolate or vanilla it’s the same creamy treat you’ve always loved now with a flavored refresh so what are these new flavors i’m glad you asked Gerald we’ve got the Frosty Swirls have strawberry brownie batter and caramel and the Frosty Fusions have Oreo brownie caramel crunch and pop tarts strawberry and not to mention yeah if you’re just playing you can just go get a vanilla one as well but make sure you get some French 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right okay let’s uh let’s do that let’s start off with targets for the Suns if they trade up now Gerald you have not had a chance to talk about the drafts with us yet today so I’m interested to see some of the names espo says “Hey Eric how much do I owe?” Espo you won’t believe this somebody donated $6,000 better sell your car so get used to that espo I think you’re sitting probably at around 250 okay $250ish maybe $300 that you owe right now if you’re matching so it’s doable yeah I’m not nearly enough needs to be so much higher right we haven’t inflicted enough pain statrix statrix is that a mix between stat and matrix that’s a good name donates $20 all right thank you all so much espo is just going up just going up okay we got some MVPs in the check we do we absolutely do but are there some future MVPs the Suns could draft could they move up in the first round gerald let’s just start with you let’s get the five names that you’re looking at in the first round that the Suns could target during a trade up whether it is they get the 10th pick or or maybe something else yeah I kind of threw a couple in a different range here but uh number one for me is Cayman Malawak um this is a guy that shot about 78% at the rim and like 89% on dunks um 7 foot one without shoes 7 foot7 wingspan he sets good screens he rolls hard um he’s got a low block rate surprisingly for a guy that size but the reason is that nobody wanted to test this man at the rim because he is that type of rim deterrent um so he’s he’s he’s very high on my board i think he’s probably going to go in that 8 n 10 11 range so if you are trading up and you’re the Suns you’re probably targeting a deal with the Rockets at number 10 with the Raptors at number nine uh maybe with the Nets if you loot them in as a third team number eight but um there are a couple options there you’re probably going to have to be at the end of the top 10 if you want to get this guy love Malawak uh I’ll get to mine in a second i have some overlapping names with you malawok is my my number one though Stephen we talked about him this is the type of center that a plays into what Jordan has been trying to say good at rebounding good at defense as well there there’s some offensive concerns as far as touch goes but at 72 and and very raw new to basketball as well relatively speaking i I think this would be a homerun investment for the Suns if they can snag him at the end of the top 10 yeah for sure maloak is clearly a positional direct addressing of a need a dire need at this point quite honestly uh add size in addition to athleticism with uh with the youth that he comes with as well u one of the one of the skills me and Eric talked about over the last couple of weeks with big man in particular is how well do they backpedal like a free safety in football in that sense and drop coverage rarely does he allow for his man on the on the roll to get behind him and on occasion when he is even with that player he’s able to deflect any type of alley passes he’s also good with his hands in terms of taking away the pocket pass too little things like that I think are translatable to the NBA level and naturally coming from a power team or a power um excuse me I was about to say power franchise a power a powerhouse um blue a blue blood team yes that’s what I’m getting at literally in the literally it’s okay is that what it was cream king so anyway what you were saying um yeah being able to address center through the draft I think will help take a take a weight off of their shoulders and potentially allow for them to go elsewhere with things they look to get in return in a potential Durant trade yeah I I want to go through the rest of your your board Gerald let’s just go through two for five because I think we got some overlap here so let’s get through all of our our fives and then maybe talk about the names that we have in common and then the names that we have that are different yeah at number two I’ve got Carter Bryant archetypal 3 and D wing there are concerns about how little he did play at Arizona but he has the skill set to be a 3 and D wing in this league danny Wolf he’s kind of an unconventional pick um kind of a facilitator playmaking type hub um does have a turnover problem and some decision-making things to iron out but he is a unique prospect if you’re looking at a big uh Cedric Coward three another 3 and D wing he tore his labroom at Washington State six games in but he is a draft riser for sure 6’6 with a 72 wingspan and then Nick Clifford he is going to be in both categories for me in a trade-up target and a potential guy you could get at 29 if he falls because honestly outside of the top eight picks it’s kind of open season on where some of these guys might land so I’ I’ve seen him from everywhere from the late teens to the mid20s um but I do like Nick Clifford he’s a late bloomer at Colorado State very very good player who did a lot of different things there i like the names i think Danny Wolf is probably the most divisive on there there’s always room for a shooting bigs some athleticism concerns that’s why he didn’t make mine but I’m assuming that’s not like a top 10 pick that’s like if you trade up like the late teens early 20s trade he’s probably going to go in the late lottery so I I wanted to spray some some targets all over the board here because Wolf is he he’s he he it depends on traditional fit uh situational fit for him ideal for a dual big lineup if you are trying to run that out there stephen who are your top five trade up targets in this year’s draft for the Suns yeah I’m starting with Cedric Coward and start here i can kind of work down from there but with Cedric in particular um 66 with a seven seven foot wingspan also has a 810 standing reach he has the physical tools to be elite on the offensive end in terms of scoring at three levels being able to do so on his own terms not not needing to be set up but he can also he’s showing potential and being able to set others up off of the attention that he gets as a primary creator has questions about his playmaking but not for himself it’s for others that he’s kind of working through and I think that’s something that you can build off of uh also in in addition to the three levels he’s also a high free throw rate um generation guy playing downhill getting to the rim and um generating those opportunities playing through contact also very very efficient and productive in the post as well has some bully guard bully wing about his game that you can kind of build um into an offense with Devin Booker as well when he’s on the court or independent of Booker so that helps for sure um and then on the defensive end elite metrics in terms of what he can be can probably come into the lead guard one through three some of the smaller forwards he can probably do his job with as well being able to switch um has some good feel and instinct that he’s working with as well on that end of the court so I’ll kick it to y’all on Cedric Coward i like Cedric Howard a lot uh we’ve we kind of had a love affair of just talking over his tape and everything literally 5 seconds i think he’s a certified top 10 pick if he if he played more this season there’s so many there’s so many good building blocks and pieces here and I know that’s why you had them on your list as well let’s go let’s go ahead and just take a my take a look at my list here really quick as we round out the trade up target cedric Coward coming in at five for me i do have Malawak at one i love the positional fit with Malawak and then I’ve got Jaor Demon or I like to call him Eigor Demon because that’s way cooler uh a like 6667 point guard who’s developing a shot this is somebody that I just see a lot of potential in growing with Devin Booker and I think if you’re going to draft somebody a little bit higher and you are going to go with a guard getting a bigger guard and somebody who can be a future backcourt mate for Book is is a pretty high priority carter Bryant in there for me as well if you know that I’m high on on Carter Bryant then you you know that it’s real because I don’t like the school he went to uh only name on on mine besides Jagger that y’all don’t have is is Asa Newell out of Georgia 611 just an absolute beast running at the rim now he’s been mocked a little bit everywhere uh I think this is a a trade up to the early teens maybe like maybe at the highest you could take him is 10 i don’t know if I love that but his his knack for getting to the rim and and his size is something that definitely is intriguing cedric Coward at five that’s pretty much tied with with Colin Murray Boils aiden in the chat very mad that we don’t have my first omission i actually do like him i I obviously there’s the Draymond Green comparisons that everybody keeps bringing up i think those are a little strong but I do think the defensive instincts are there um I think the way that he processes the game is encouraging um the lack of a shot is a concern for me um but yeah he was my first honorable mention just missed the cut in my top five if you’re going to trade up there yeah I the lack of shooting is a little little tough especially because of and Mario says it Murray Boils has done 2.0 i don’t know if that’s like an exact one toone comparison but I don’t know if those two guys offensively are are fits to play on the court together and I I want players that can play with my current young core uh again we’re going to do more draft coverage beginning of next week let’s keep on going kind of rapid fire through here before we have our special guest join us uh let’s get into our our top five for the Suns if they stay at 29 and now this can be all over the place i’ll start with mine this time because the boards have been all over so coming in at number one for me is Rasheir Fleming this is somebody that if they slip I don’t think he’s at 29 i think he probably ends up going like 20ish range anywhere from 18 to 25 but if he does fall I think that’s a home run pick a wing that can do a little bit of everything shoot all of that i’ve got Rayod uh out of Stanford who is a 7 foot plus center who could do a little bit of everything same thing with Hansen Yang out of China super impressed with Hansen Yang’s game his agility is 72 and his passing are also really big standouts i like to do Theario as well and and Ben Sarif as as smaller obviously players than than Fleming and and Rayon and Yang uh that can be more in the back court uh Sarah probably the rawest prospect out of all of those but maybe the highest upside with some of his his playmaking but scoring is is a problem any overlap with with your five Stephen uh just a little bit but in the kind of rearranged order the top of my list in terms of picks at 29 starts with Nick Clifford for me um talking about a plus-size wing that can score at all three levels do some creation with the ball in his hands as well be effective off it and also do a lot of things on the defensive end that will help to build a boat around the defensive process uh Nick has all of that he’s an older player as well spent a lot of time at Colorado State and is someone that has a certain maturity about his game that I feel would translate well to the NBA level yeah I got a lot of overlap with your two lists as well um mine I have Walter Clayton Jr If he’s there at number 29 I have a really hard time passing on that guy because that dude just was the dude for Florida like unbelievable shot making and maybe it doesn’t translate as well to the NBA level as it does in college but there’s just a certain it factor about him and even defensively I know he’s a little undersized but he’s strong he competes on that end um at the very worst I think you’re getting a guy who can be a high impact scorer off of your bench kind of one of those microwave guys um I also have Nick Clifford pretty high if he’s there I have a hard time passing on him uh is he’s a late bloomer he’s 23 years old but he contributed across the board both ends good score rayod I love the idea of giving Devin Booker finally a legitimate stretch five um there are some concerns with him but 7 foot big 9 foot2 standing reach can attack closeouts as well um and I think that’s important for a stretch big to have then I’ve got Rasheed Fleming on my list as well dude has a 7 foot five wingspan at 6’8 like that’s absurd and that’s the exact type of frame you should be targeting to put around Devin Booker and then I’ve got Tiaro i would have him higher uh if not for the shooting concerns like he’s muscular he is maybe the best athlete in the entire draft we kind of already did that last year with Ryan Dunn and I don’t think Tiaro projects as the same defender that Ryan Dunn will be so I don’t know if you could have that many same archetypes without the shooting i’ll say real quick the Walter Clayton Jr point we talked about this before we hopped on the winners winners just find a way i trust winning over any skill that you can show to translate or make go to the NBA level i trust I trust winning he has a lot of that Jaylen Brunson factor about his game where yes you have questions about this that and the third defense yes okay but big time plays big time moments winning plural he gets all of that for sure yeah I like Clayton i I worry a little bit about taking a a guard that late in the draft i think I’d rather try to get some some size at center of wink cuz wing because it’s plentiful there but I I do have a guard in my my second round prospects and some of the names that y’all been mentioning in the chat I I think the Suns might be able to get in the second round maybe involves a trade up in in the second round but I’ve got Amari Williams number one uh this is specifically for rebounding he might be the best rebounder in the in the second round he is an absolute dog especially on the offensive boards and had been one throughout I believe he played five years in college and was consistently an elite offensive rebounder just I think is one of those dogs that can definitely fill a spot in the middle i’ve got Bogle Jub Marovic who is a 611 Serbian center power forward who can shoot he’s very intriguing he’s definitely a high upside guy uh has a lot of offensive game to him defense you’d have to be a little worried about but definitely if it’s an archetype as a big that you don’t have at center yet i’ve got Kobe Brea just a outright shooter uh some people compare him to Cam Johnson he’s a little bit smaller than Cam Johnson but my lord can that guy shoot the cover off the ball ryan Nemhard probably the best true point guard in the draft averaged almost 10 assists per game at Gonzaga and is a dog and then I got Eric Dixon who actually led the NCAA in scoring last year 23 points per game massive defensive concerns but an absolute bucket each of these guys have a very specific skill that they’re high on whether it’s big in size offensive rebounding passing or shooting each of them I think has one elite skill that you could target and that’s what I always look for in second round guys and I believe I did see a report that the Suns did work out Eric Dixon as well yeah I believe I think that’s right um yeah let’s let’s take a look at my second round there’s a little bit of overlap here tyrese Proctor I think he’s going to be gone by number 52 uh but again the second round is going to be an absolute free-for-all so you never know who’s going to fall on draft night if Proctor is there at 52 I think that’s a no-brainer in terms of a 6’4 guard um who can play the one or the two a little bit ryan Nemhard I probably should have put him a little bit lower on this list i like him as a facilitator the only two problems are he’s extremely small and he’s a reluctant scorer and in the NBA you’re going to have to be able to do more than just be a Rajan Rondo passing kind of guard uh Johnny Broom another guy that’s probably going to be off the board one of the best players in college basketball you know he’s below the rim he’s his game does not translate well to the NBA but if he’s there at number 52 he’s absolutely worth a look kobe Brea probably the most elite shooter that you’re going to find in the second round he’s one of those guys that you just bank on that skill being so good that you can wait for the rest of his game to develop and catch up uh and then Kobe Sanders if he’s there at 52 he’s kind of a big wing who can dribble pass and shoot the defense at the next level is kind of the question mark um but he’s a sharp passer comfortable with the ball has some shooting potential so um if those guys are there I think those are the types of guys that you’re looking at i have been pretty clear i don’t like Janum personally i I I think he’s a G-League All-Star i I don’t think that his game transl at 52 yes no absolutely he was like the second best player in college basketball he’s Drew Timmy broom to Eric is Saw to No no i like I just I’m out like I’m just out on a show well then let’s go back to your list of uh prospects at the beginning cuz I don’t like that one guy that you had which one amari Williams no the demon oh Jagor Deon oh the developing a shot is a very generous way to describe he’s a top 10 pick get ready to learn if his shot develops get ready no he’s he’s already a top 10 pick right now and he he is no like he literally is going to go top 10 uh Jagger Demond is a demon uh Stephen before Gerald and I fight uh and I send home a new father with a black eye uh what what are your second round second round picks uh I’ll start at the top i’ll go ahead and just speak specifically to Ryan Mhard i’m a believer in point guards for one i’m also a believer in point guards that run NBA level systems for their collegiate tenure and the way that that translates to them expediting their process um going to the NBA level i know the size but for the shots that he did take in terms of the aggressiveness he did knock down 40% of the threes that he did take i think he took 94 in tandem with that though um he led the nation in assists total and in assists per game 344 total assists 9.8 assists per game in a college game is nearly unheard of also had 1.7 steals so there’s an activity level that comes with this defense that could be similarly akin to his brother um dude is a hooper just a flatout hooper great feel understands how to run a team understands how to set a tone from the point of attack on defense as well i think he’s a player that might take maybe a season or so for his impact to hit the NBA level and he’s not without flaw for sure but I think that he’s a kind of a piece that you can invest in and expect for it to hit down the line for you you also have two other names that we don’t have in Jamir Watkins at three and Elijah Martin at five what are you seeing them wings wings wings yep that’s the best way to put it concisely wings that do things pest on off pest on defense do some of the blueco collar effort things on defense with athleticism and on offense can put the ball on the deck but also knock down the three yeah i I like your list way more than Gerald gerald i was going to say I just I just don’t like it’s not even Gerald i just don’t like Jani Broom that’s just me personally i get that I’m probably lower on him he’s gonna go in the 30s probably if he’s there if he’s there at 52 you take him no it’s great if he’s somebody else’s problem i don’t I don’t I don’t want him pick Jive Broom we can talk about Jive Broom when our special guest joins the show because it is a musical chairs day here at All City which means we’re going to have Steven step off for our last segment we will have a special guest come in before we get there want to shout out Leo $30 donation to Big Brothers Big Sisters of America big shout out to Leo who is always here every single day and now also helping as well to Big Brothers Big Sisters of America everybody 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Mavericks explosion in game seven oh I produced the the game the game seven um collapse against the Nuggets okay game six game six excuse me um and there’s I have other qualifiers well one time I was on a Cardinal show and that was the Cardinals show where they lost in LA in the apparently you got Justin Martinez hurt no I did not do that that’s a lie uh no this is perfect uh Kevin’s going to get traded for Scraps kevin R traded for Shane Deanbach wow i didn’t realize we could make the salaries match congrat 10 minutes to avoid calamity i would have rather got drafted to the US Army than that okay thon says you guys brought a DLS guy no this is PHNX this is like a founding member of PHNX he was producing the son’s show for those games not the DLS show founding father okay with a PH with a PH that’s pretty good we should We should make that i’m not You are a college basketball sicko are you not mhm okay can we talk about Janu okay i Let’s just say Well I don’t think we need to talk about Janu because I don’t think No I think we need this he’ll be gone he’s not going to be at number 52 but if he is at number 52 you take care no thank you you I don’t I wouldn’t take Ji Broom with the 60th pick that’s crazy well there is no 60th pick yeah exactly so you don’t have to worry about I wouldn’t take him i can We spend our time I mean I know you guys spent time talking about trade settle the debate yeah just at 52 yeah at 52 you take him i don’t like Jana Broom i don’t like you okay that’s fine you don’t have to draft me vindication with a mustache i think that you have this weird idea of Janai Broom because somebody close in your somebody close to you in your life enjoyed watching him and that person that is close to you very close to you you don’t like very much you’re talking about myself you okay and I think that you have a skewed view of him are we going to rehash our beef over Auburn no no no i I there’s no really there’s we don’t really There was definitely beef no there was you don’t need to refire it because it’s never the fire is eternal like it’s forever mhm okay uh Hunter says I’m correct on Jagger Demon and so you like Jagger Demon yes i don’t either yeah i’m just like I don’t and what’s the other If the shot develops he absolutely is a top 10 pick i don’t think the shot’s developing no and if it is it’s going to take a while right shane what does the AI baby say about Jani Broom jor Demond is is You know what Demon is hold on crazy comp here i hate player comps but I’m doing it right now he is a European Scoot Henderson no he’s not so beat Cr okay okay he’s a 6’8 point guard who can’t defend and can’t shoot what’s the Illinois kid um that is that is he has a foreign name i like him better than Diego Deon netherhauser no that’s not Nether the guy with three names okay uh Michael says “What show is this?” This is the PHX son show thanks Michael uh Make sure y’all donate to Big Brothers Big Sisters of America that’s why we’re doing musical chairs uh if we get to $1,000 by 4:00 I’ll shave my mustache wow oh wow we have about $900 more dollars to go that’s been a staple of PHNX since its founding shane will shave his must we’re No by the end of the show no by the end of We’re staying live till we get Uh by the way Chad Aiden says I look like Vic Crretchie do you that’s been something that’s been said before i love that people are just like now just like the chat is uniting and being like “Bro that dude was so tough.” I love that guy i mean sort of i don’t see it don’t use that picture cuz he looks like a punk rocker for some reason in that picture maybe if like my head got like smashed a little bit like it’s like it’s more like of a of a rectangle right his head is now facial hair either yeah I guess if I was if I was clean shaving then I would maybe look differently that’s why I actually grew the facial hair was because I hated being compared to Vic Crretchie that’s fair should we ask him an actual draft question maybe shane if you’re at 29 for the Suns do you do you have some I hate the idea of being at 29 okay can we can we give you some of our our prospects at 29 you can tell me if if you like them or not rashir Fleming i think so one player that I’ve warmed up to more and more is the idea that’s been mocked everywhere and everybody’s favorite and the people that know ball are opposing and the people that don’t know ball love is Walter Clayton Jr okay i’ve been I’ve been opposing it for a very long time at 29 because of the idea that he’s a score and you don’t need another guy that’s going to shoot a bunch however it’s come to my attention that players can change a little bit and I think the idea of Walter Clayton Jr being a facilitating scoring point guard facilitating more first could actually be really fun and so that’s probably one of my more my one of my favorite ones at 29 now even though it’s been the normie one it’s now almost like punk and hipster to want Walter Clayton Jr because everyone doesn’t want him okay that’s fair i I think if he’s there at 29 he’s kind of hard to pass up on to be honest with you who else let’s see well you kind of out on Rasher Fleming nick Clifford nick Clifford where’s Colorado State he’s He’s not going to be there he’s a late bloomer i think he’ll be gone as well i think he I think he’s going top 15 i really like that what about uh Rayard dude Maxim Rayard makes me want to die yeah you don’t like him do you he’s because he Okay because I’ve seen him i’ve watched him for four years you know Pack 12 guy um now ACC guy uh yeah he’s improved slowly over time he’s developed the jumper he’s his I mean his footwork’s always been pretty good but there’s nothing that he does great and that to him as a center is horrible to me like I would much rather take a flyer on again I think he’s probably gone but the kid from Georgetown that was hurt at the start of the year Thomas yeah that that only played like whatever 10 15 games um Sorber’s good i like Sorber yeah uh he’s Yeah I don’t like Sorber wow really no I don’t i’d take him over Rayod well yeah i think that’s Well yeah i mean I think he’ll be gone before Ray aiden speaking my language give me Ryan Brener they worked him out that’s something we haven’t talked about as much today what is it about Ryan Kulk Brener that you like so much at 29 he’s he’s a he’s a pro like center like he’s always played like that he’s the thing I like about him and what I like about specific prospects from college hoops is when they just elevate parts of their game and people aren’t excited because they have this new thing like he didn’t he didn’t just develop a three ball out of nowhere he didn’t just like like he he improved on his shooting and he stayed true to who he was his entire time at Kraton and he stayed there um he was always like like yeah you had guys come and go from Kraton that were the drivers of the offense but he was always kind of the heart of that team because of what he did on the defensive end and the offensive end the whenever you saw a team play Kraton they always game planned around him not their guards that could score because you can’t just like assume you’re going to get your way in the paint when you have a guy that is the size of Barney the dinosaur down there right with his hands straight up he’s kind of he’s kind of like I I saw I think Sam Vassini of the Athletic compared it to um like Luke Cornett in terms of the shooting didn’t translate for Cornett but if it does for K Brener he’s a guy that is an elite shot blocker and if he can add that shooting to it I mean that’s a problem and that’s a good pick at 29 someone who will definitely probably be there and his his stroke is confident too like he’s got a really confident shot love a confident stroke okay uh I knew you weren’t going to be able to leave that alone why i I can never Are you like this on Suns too yes i called Steven the Cream King was that what I called him calling him the cream king that sounds like something you didn’t need to bring up again no I mean but it’s out there now would you draft Carter Bryant top 10 i would draft Carter Bryant at seven seven six probably carter Bryant is I think Carter Bryant Carter Bryant’s outside of the top five is my favorite player in this draft outside of the top four maybe dream book you’re not worried about the fact that he didn’t start that many games or play that game no no no because I I I sadly watched a lot of UFA this year and like that I always was one of those guys clamoring for more Carter Bryant minutes i I I remember I was at Section 7 the high school basketball tournament that goes on in Arizona every year um last year two years ago mhm what whatever year was watching him play yeah last summer and I was infatuated with his game because not only as a high schooler borderline high schooler college freshman was he did he see the game in like total slow motion but he also had this calmness to him that he always brought on the court and that carried over to college which is so rare especially in environments that they played at i remember him playing in these big games against Duke his yeah his face never changed and he always remained stoic but the game always remained calm like he was always so I’m going to let the game come to me and see what I see like the people that look at Carter Bryant right now and probably wonder why he’s mocked so high are looking at his numbers it’s like eight points six rebound whatever right and he can do all of that like he can impact the game a ton with having just those statistics but like his game is going to elevate so much he’s his potential so high that none of the stats that he that that are shown in a box score show up defensively what he does also and he’s a great communicator like to me he does everything right and the fact that people thought he was going to even consider coming back to UVA blew my mind uh if you are watching on TV the party with the deli man the mustache behind the Mac usually always continues over at gophnx.com sadly the mustaches looks like you’re keeping your mustache which is which is sad still time to get in donations y’all really really want to up these donations for Big Brothers Big Sisters of America we have just a couple more questions for Shane for Shane before we leave here uh what do you think about Cedric Coward is what’s the highest trade what’s the highest you would draft Cedric Coward uh I think he’s I He’s going to be one of those guys first of all that it it’s draft day oh wow a week from today holy moly that’s why we’re doing the show yeah that’s crazy hello um he’s going to be one of those guys on Wednesday next Wednesday that you’re that goes and you’re like how like the whole day leading up to it is going to be like oh there’s now he’s going to be pick 12 now he’s going to be and you’re like whoa whoa whoa and he’s going to go way higher than people think i think 29th um I I’ I’d trade up to in the top 15 top 10 maybe top 10 okay no top well it just depends on how much you are gonna have to give up because this draft’s value is so weird because of how heavy the top is and then I don’t know what teams are valuing their seven through tens like yeah how much value is that Raptors pick actually worth probably a lot but if Carter Bryan is still there at nine I’m trading Devin Booker’s dogs okay you’re trading Kevin Durant to Toronto for number nine yeah you absolutely are uh there’s one getting traded before the draft you hope so there’s no way ideally cuz the offers aren’t going to get better after the draft i’ll tell you that there’s a name in the second round that scored the most points per game in the country last season and yet is still in the second round he’s a three-level scorer his name is Eric Dixon out of Villanova is his defense really that bad well how tall is he he’s 6’8 yeah yeah it’s I I wanted to to hear from you the one with baby arms too i don’t know if he has baby arms but he’s an absolute bucket but my lord the he is a turn style like it’s bad uh who did we just talk about before him carter Bryant no who who did I say I would trade up for oh uh Cedric cedric Coward that Washington State right yes yeah yeah yeah he talk about No not baby arms no he’s 72 wingspan i think it’s even bigger than that cedric Coward has a 7 foot2 wings yeah it’s talk about freaking big old capital T uh Will Riley out of Illinois is he the guard he’s he’s a forward kind of play he He will take a lot of shots oh he’s the Yeah he’s the other white guy next to uh kind of gets knocked around defensively because he’s got I’m not familiar with this game he’s got a bulk up um yeah he’s very he’s very skinny oh this kid um yeah i don’t really have a strong opinion i’m not a I’m not a big Will Riley guy i think he’s intriguing i just I I wouldn’t trade up for him maybe later can we talk about the guy that the Suns are actually going to find a way to draft jace Jay Richardson michigan State product j first of all he’s left-handed right yes i don’t want I don’t want to left you on my team i don’t want a lefty on my team so no ben uh Ben Saraf no oh god that would be horrible wouldn’t it ben Saraf yeah Ben can we just like pick up Where’s Cashas Winston playing do you know you don’t like you don’t like you don’t like you don’t like Jace i I mean he’s he’s fine i just true freshman shooter no I’m Yeah I know who he is he’s a guy you’d have to trade up to get and I don’t think it’s worth he is either going to be Jordan Pool okay or he’s going to be out of the league i don’t think there’s an in between and I don’t really want either of those guys uh do you do you have any any other takes on this draft any any hot takes any cold takes uh Cooper Flag good cooper flag is good what about Ace ace Bailey uh I should have brought my computer in here the Texas kid the kid that Jeremiah Fierce holy smokes okay that dude that dude i would I would try to finagle my way into forcing my GM to draft him at two if I’m the Spurs that’s how much I like him really yeah that’s Do you like Ace Bailey i’m trading back obviously in that situation but oh my goodness that he I Yeah I like I like both of the Ruters kids i think both of them are just like they scream potential and you look at them and you say “Okay top two or two top three picks on the same team and they were Ruters but they played for Ruters.” Like legalize Ruters money line literally legalized Rutgers money line yes the the the thing about these two guys isn’t what you’re getting now it’s what is the potential to get in the future obviously that the the the like Dylan Harper is one of the freakiest basketball players I’ve seen like he he I wouldn’t be surprised if they said he jumped the highest any man has ever jumped before in a basketball game and Ace Bailey is you know the the whole thing with him is is is he going to be able to handle like NBA pressure because we’ve seen I mean he threw the ball in the 13th row like four times last year in the same game like he makes some weird decisions but he’s one of those guys that is his potential to score is outweighing his potential to give the ball to the other team yeah my bad trey Johnson by the way is the Texas guard jeremiah Fears is the U guard who’s also going to go in the top 10 so were you talking about Trey Johnson the whole time or Okay yeah just to clarify yeah the Texas guy okay all right i think that’s it Shane unless you have anything else to add um I don’t rack that brain i don’t think I need to What i said rack that brain think racking the brain who are your guys’ favorite who do Who do you guys want i really want you let’s say let’s say the the the Kevin Durant trade goes through before the draft they have nine where you guys number nine i don’t think Carter Bryant’s gonna be there i think Yeah I’m looking at Malawak Carter Bryant or Cedric Coward I think I think Malawok if he’s if he’s there i mean I think I honestly I might take Malawak over Carter Bryant i I just think center with with book is such an important position i think those are one and two for me yeah I think that’s fair jai Broom number one overall you heard it here first and if you get Carter Bryant then maybe Yang Hansen slips to 52 yeah I I would love Most of the mocks I’ve seen have him in second round so it’s not out of the realm of possible i think somebody’s going to reach for him though all right two white guys Liam McNeely Coniple what are what no seriously what What do you got coniple is going to go He’s gonna go top five okay that’d be crazy i’ve seen him i know i’ve seen them mock four five and six right now i think he I think he’s going to go Who has seven uh is that not Brooklyn i think they’re eight pelicans pelicans pelicans pelicans pelicans pelanipple zion i think you’re overlooking the Jazz at number five that is a white man and that is Utah i think I think Charlotte Charlotte loves their whites as well i Charlotte whites charlotte does love their whites um does Liam McNeely do anything for you guys because he could be there at 20 whatever no I I not really no yeah nothing nothing here nothing for you either nothing here that wraps it up from this exciting white this even more exciting white and he’s gritty dick to me just feels like a lazy comp i mean is it just because like the body part thing conibble is Kevin Martin hold on now i think I just did something i don’t think you did something i think I did freckled Mamba freckled Mamba what thoughts thoughts on what your comparison uhhuh uh I don’t know yeah put it kevin Martin okay can Before we go too deep down that down that rabbit hole make sure you donate to Big Brothers Big Sisters of America we are over 75% of the way to our $10,000 goal across all of All City uh I believe Espo will be donating around $300 uh so big shout out to Espo for donating to $300 and big shout out to all of you in the chat for raising about $300 as well every single dollar counts we’re being lazy again coniple is not JJ Reic he’s 6’7 no Conanipple definitely more of like a TJ McConnell JJ Reic Larry Bird type of guy you know first in the gym last Khan Canipple is Kevin Martin tweet it uh and you can find that tweet from Shane at Shanef on socials you can follow us throughout all the Kevin Durant trade saga and beyond phnx_s that is on Twitter and on Instagram you can follow Stephen don’t call him Steve at StephenP3 he is heading back home for his mother’s birthday but also will be covering the Mercury while he’s out there as well so make sure you stay tapped in with that you can follow Gerald at Gerald Borg you can follow me at R I K R U B Y you can follow the freckled mamba behind the chat behind the Mac at freckledmamba we will be back tomorrow with some more Kevin Durant trade talk and beyond so don’t go anywhere what was that a comment or just because we’re talking about the trade more Kevin Durant trade talk well unless he gets traded then it is kind of exciting that’s fine this this trade should be perpetual never happen i’d be perpetual trade rumors oh god that’s what it feels like we’re in it’s Hey that’s been our life February yeah it’s awesome i hate it we’ll see you tomorrow for more KD talk we’ll talk to you then like the mayor

Hey, have you heard the news? Kevin Durant is likely getting traded from the Phoenix Suns at any moment, but what if he isn’t?

Gerald, Erik and Stephen discuss a scenario where the superstar forward actually makes his return to Arizona next year, what that looks like on the court, and just how likely this situation is to happen as the Spurs, Rockets, Timberwolves and Raptors continue their pursuit of 25.

After talking KD, the crew dives into the draft to discuss their top 5 players the Suns could target if they trade up, stay put in the 1st round and the 2nd round, plus welcome in a special guest for the musical chairs portion of our ALL CITY spirit week!

Follow the show @PHNX_Suns, @GeraldBourguet, @StephenPG3 & @ErikRuby!

0:00 – Intro
3:10 – The Los Angeles Lakers Sold for How Much?
5:40 – More Kevin Durant Talk…
7:45 – What does it look like if KD Stays?
28:30 – Draft Prospects if the Suns Move up
35:00 – Prospects if the Suns Stay at 29
40:40 – Prospects the Suns Should Target in the Second Round
49:00 – Spirit Week Continues With Musical Chairs

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