The NHL is closely examining The Oilers use of LTIR regarding Evander Kane.
June 19, 2025
Just add insult to injury NHL lol
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Huh, almost like you had most of April, May and June to do that.
This would be fucking priceless, if true.
Maybe the NHL should smarten up and fix what needs fixing. Before it’s too late.
* A Cap for each playoff game
* A fair Cap space based on (take-home) pay through out the league. Parity across the league.
* Longer control of drafted players.
* Playoff formate changes. 1 vs 8 ( Top team in each conference allowed to pick their first opponent). Prize for Winning the conference
Is it just because Vegas didn’t make the cup final
Any of the following solutions would be better than what the league is currently allowing:
1. Enforce a salary cap in the playoffs;
2. Get rid of a hard cap all together and instead bring in a luxury tax system. For example, let teams spend up to 20% over the cap but for every dollar teams spend over the cap they pay 3x that amount into a fund that is redistributed across all teams that spend below the luxury tax cut off; or
3. Accept that all teams are going to abuse LTIR. Tampa did it and won a cup, Vegas has done it repeatedly to great success, Florida iced an AHL roster for a meaningful part of the regular season around the trade deadline and both teams in the cup finals iced teams that would be widely above the cap in the regular season.
The status quo is dumb and will only be abused more going forward. It’s a proven path to success.
Mark Stone is leading the investigation
I don’t have an issue with this.
This one is more notable because it was reported last year that Kane would be out around March.
While other injured players like Matthew Tkachuk this year (or mark stone with his ruptured spleen a couple of years ago) had no real viability of returning in the regular season but did play playoff games hobbled, Kane was a pretty blatant case of a team holding out a healthy player to circumvent the cap.
That’s why the oilers are being highlighted.
I say if you want to fix it, do this: if they can’t play the final 3 games of the regular season, you can’t play in the first round.
Be like baseball and have teams submit their final “playoff roster” before the postseason begins.
As if Edmonton is going to get pinched for something all teams do and that Tampa and Vegas made defining features of their Cup wins. It makes it seem like the real crime for the Oilers was losing.
Just enforce the salary cap in the playoffs. Simple.
Just like they closely examined Florida and their PED’s.
Do they think Edmonton threw the series?
Wait until a team signs 5 or more players, place them on LTIR for the season and then when the playoffs roll around, activate them you’ve ostensibly given 5 or more players a year off to heal, still get paid and then play when they want it the most. You could conceptually have an entire second team ready for the playoffs. Maybe a move like this would force the NHL to actually change.
Am I the only one that think the cap should be apply to the game line up? Like tonight, on the ice, you are allowed to have 80M worth of player.
Teams could have 2 cap: 1 for the team in general like we have right now, and another one, lower, for the games. So you have 90M worth of player with backups and stuff, but each game night, you have a max of 80M on the ice.
Conspiracy theorists feasting today.
What’s the part about the 2nd being taken
Away for condition changes in the Lucic trade??
It’s pretty clear he came back early and reinjured himself in the Dallas series.
Not sure if Frederic was on LTIR before the playoffs but he came back too early.
Ekholm probably could’ve been on LTIR but they didn’t need too. He also came back too early.
With Hyman then also out, I’m not sure the Oilers really played over the cap in the playoffs. Maybe if there was a game or a few shift overlap when Ekholm came back and Hyman went out, but brown may have also been out then too, who also came back still injured.
This seems like a non story to me
The NHL is a joke. Other teams so this and no one bats an eye. God forbid Kane actually has surgery and can’t play. Bettman creams his khakis for American teams.
Sure but anything they decide must apply north and south of the border.
Just take everyone’s ability to do this away it’s a dumb rule that allowed the Panthers to stack up on talent more than anyone this year
The NHL wants to make sure Canadian teams don’t even get to the Cup finals…….. /s
Haha!
Will they also examine Florida for their LTIR.
Without Tkachuk on LTIR they wouldn’t have had Jones.
Then let’s go back to Vegas and Tampa.
It’s a gap and all teams are doing. Some are better at it!
Or
Let’s make a rule that the team on the ice needs to be cap compliant during the playoffs.
Oooh! Do Vegas next!
Cool
Now do Vegas next
Honestly, I understand why they’re doing this. Remember during the season when there was talk about Kane being healthy and wanting to play, but the Oilers said no in order to exploit the LTIR loophole? They should’ve done a better job at hiding it, or let Kane play when he was healthy. Like, the guy had the surgery at the beginning of the season and the recovery time had him returning during the season, so the Oilers played their hand there.
Florida on the other hand, they were tight lipped about Tkachuk and his status. No one was given the impression that he could return during the season. Even during the playoffs, as we found out, he was playing through a pretty significant injury.
easy fix LTIR counts against the cap. Suddenly all of this is mute.
Sure they are. The NHL turns a blind eye to LTIR violations everyone knows it
Why is this the only one being investigated? Not Florida? Lol
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Not an Oilers fan, but Mark Stone and the Vegas golden knights get away with it for what 3 years and not a peep, Canadian team does it once and it’s got to be investigated. Fuck you Bettman
Oh my God, who the fuck cares?
Oilers iced 73m in the final game, Florida iced 93m…. Just have a per game playoff on-ice cap that matches the regular season and they’re set. Teams can still hold 93m on roster if they want, but can only dress up to the 8?m cap. Seems fair to me
Take Home comparison 8M NHL Salary
Tampa – $5.040,000
Vegas – $5.040,000
Dallas – $5.040,000
Seattle – $5.040,000
Toronto – $4,307,200
New York. – $4,176,000
Los Angeles – $3.976,000
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Huh, almost like you had most of April, May and June to do that.
This would be fucking priceless, if true.
Maybe the NHL should smarten up and fix what needs fixing. Before it’s too late.
* A Cap for each playoff game
* A fair Cap space based on (take-home) pay through out the league. Parity across the league.
* Longer control of drafted players.
* Playoff formate changes. 1 vs 8 ( Top team in each conference allowed to pick their first opponent). Prize for Winning the conference
Is it just because Vegas didn’t make the cup final
Any of the following solutions would be better than what the league is currently allowing:
1. Enforce a salary cap in the playoffs;
2. Get rid of a hard cap all together and instead bring in a luxury tax system. For example, let teams spend up to 20% over the cap but for every dollar teams spend over the cap they pay 3x that amount into a fund that is redistributed across all teams that spend below the luxury tax cut off; or
3. Accept that all teams are going to abuse LTIR. Tampa did it and won a cup, Vegas has done it repeatedly to great success, Florida iced an AHL roster for a meaningful part of the regular season around the trade deadline and both teams in the cup finals iced teams that would be widely above the cap in the regular season.
The status quo is dumb and will only be abused more going forward. It’s a proven path to success.
Mark Stone is leading the investigation
I don’t have an issue with this.
This one is more notable because it was reported last year that Kane would be out around March.
While other injured players like Matthew Tkachuk this year (or mark stone with his ruptured spleen a couple of years ago) had no real viability of returning in the regular season but did play playoff games hobbled, Kane was a pretty blatant case of a team holding out a healthy player to circumvent the cap.
That’s why the oilers are being highlighted.
I say if you want to fix it, do this: if they can’t play the final 3 games of the regular season, you can’t play in the first round.
Be like baseball and have teams submit their final “playoff roster” before the postseason begins.
As if Edmonton is going to get pinched for something all teams do and that Tampa and Vegas made defining features of their Cup wins. It makes it seem like the real crime for the Oilers was losing.
Just enforce the salary cap in the playoffs. Simple.
Just like they closely examined Florida and their PED’s.
Do they think Edmonton threw the series?
Wait until a team signs 5 or more players, place them on LTIR for the season and then when the playoffs roll around, activate them you’ve ostensibly given 5 or more players a year off to heal, still get paid and then play when they want it the most. You could conceptually have an entire second team ready for the playoffs. Maybe a move like this would force the NHL to actually change.
Am I the only one that think the cap should be apply to the game line up? Like tonight, on the ice, you are allowed to have 80M worth of player.
Teams could have 2 cap: 1 for the team in general like we have right now, and another one, lower, for the games. So you have 90M worth of player with backups and stuff, but each game night, you have a max of 80M on the ice.
Conspiracy theorists feasting today.
What’s the part about the 2nd being taken
Away for condition changes in the Lucic trade??
It’s pretty clear he came back early and reinjured himself in the Dallas series.
Not sure if Frederic was on LTIR before the playoffs but he came back too early.
Ekholm probably could’ve been on LTIR but they didn’t need too. He also came back too early.
With Hyman then also out, I’m not sure the Oilers really played over the cap in the playoffs. Maybe if there was a game or a few shift overlap when Ekholm came back and Hyman went out, but brown may have also been out then too, who also came back still injured.
This seems like a non story to me
The NHL is a joke. Other teams so this and no one bats an eye. God forbid Kane actually has surgery and can’t play. Bettman creams his khakis for American teams.
Sure but anything they decide must apply north and south of the border.
Just take everyone’s ability to do this away it’s a dumb rule that allowed the Panthers to stack up on talent more than anyone this year
The NHL wants to make sure Canadian teams don’t even get to the Cup finals…….. /s
Haha!
Will they also examine Florida for their LTIR.
Without Tkachuk on LTIR they wouldn’t have had Jones.
Then let’s go back to Vegas and Tampa.
It’s a gap and all teams are doing. Some are better at it!
Or
Let’s make a rule that the team on the ice needs to be cap compliant during the playoffs.
Oooh! Do Vegas next!
Cool
Now do Vegas next
Honestly, I understand why they’re doing this. Remember during the season when there was talk about Kane being healthy and wanting to play, but the Oilers said no in order to exploit the LTIR loophole? They should’ve done a better job at hiding it, or let Kane play when he was healthy. Like, the guy had the surgery at the beginning of the season and the recovery time had him returning during the season, so the Oilers played their hand there.
Florida on the other hand, they were tight lipped about Tkachuk and his status. No one was given the impression that he could return during the season. Even during the playoffs, as we found out, he was playing through a pretty significant injury.
easy fix LTIR counts against the cap. Suddenly all of this is mute.
Sure they are. The NHL turns a blind eye to LTIR violations everyone knows it
Why is this the only one being investigated? Not Florida? Lol
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Not an Oilers fan, but Mark Stone and the Vegas golden knights get away with it for what 3 years and not a peep, Canadian team does it once and it’s got to be investigated. Fuck you Bettman
Oh my God, who the fuck cares?
Oilers iced 73m in the final game, Florida iced 93m…. Just have a per game playoff on-ice cap that matches the regular season and they’re set. Teams can still hold 93m on roster if they want, but can only dress up to the 8?m cap. Seems fair to me
Take Home comparison 8M NHL Salary
Tampa – $5.040,000
Vegas – $5.040,000
Dallas – $5.040,000
Seattle – $5.040,000
Toronto – $4,307,200
New York. – $4,176,000
Los Angeles – $3.976,000