Should Bruins fans be happy for Brad Marchand? | Pucks With Haggs

Should Bruins fans be happy for Brad Marchand? | Pucks With Haggs

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the great work that’s being done over there uh with me today is longtime friend and colleague Mick Collagio mick please tell everybody where they can find your work my friend link rink rap to Axian Facebook and uh during the season I mostly do game coverage but I’ve got uh a a recent missive on Stanley Cup championships and how they won and also will be obviously covering what goes on here as we approach the draft and July one with the Boston Bruins and I’ll be uh writing the hockey news yearbook uh Bruins uh section nice use of the word missive Mick we don’t hear that word enough and I’m going to try to use that in words with friends when I play against my mom and my nephew because that is a fantastic word uh for scrabble or words with friends uh for those of you listening to this episode of the Pucks with Hags podcast we ask that you subscribe to the podcast like and leave a review and for those watching the show on CLNS and enjoying all this hockey talk go ahead and hit that like button and subscribe to the Bruins Ringside YouTube channel where you can find our show and a lot of other great Bruins content from fellow Bruins talkers like Connor Ryan and Evan Marinowski is also the CLNS media network and Celtics All Access on CLNS the NBA History Channel Patriots Press Pass and of course Bruins Rinkside YouTube channels as well also please make sure to turn on your notifications so you know the instant a new Pucks with Hags podcast video drops on the interwebs all right Mick um might as well get into the first things first here stanley Cup champions the Florida Panthers 14-2 very defi decisive 5 to1 victory uh Edmonton really was never in that game at any point um you know it looked like a lot of other playoff series that I feel like we’ve seen where Florida just wears you down until you’re like an empty husk at the end and you don’t have anything left they pound you and wear you down with their depth and their withering for check and their physicality and the way they just keep coming at you wave after wave and they do that over the course of a long playoff series and by the end of the series you don’t have enough left uh to fight them to resist to to get the puck up the ice and and really have any sustained pressure against them and we’ve seen them do this against great teams we’ve seen them do this against great players we saw I think Conor McDavid really um was was effective at times earlier in the series but I didn’t really even notice him that much to be honest with you in in that game six uh same with Leon Dryidle it felt like they really just pounded the the Oilers into submission um and there was also some goalending issues with the Oilers as well through the course of that series that I’m sure they’re going to have to address but uh just a time to I think appreciate the Florida Panthers winning back-to-back cups first team to do it since Pittsburgh uh getting to the Stanley Cup finals three years in a row um and really you know turning themselves into a team that with the cap going up and them likely being able to retain a lot of the pieces that they want to retain you know this could be another couple of years of of a dynastic type run for this team the way that they play the way they’re coached and the way they’re put together and I feel like we’re watching one of those great teams in the midst of their run uh that we’re going to talk about in NHL history here add to that but I will say this um the post-dynastic expansion era the NHL’s expansion era prominently begins 1967 when the league doubles its size and from that point forward there’s incremental expansion and the absorption of the WHA survivors etc and then more then a whole wave of Gary Bman era expansion and migration the regular season during the Gary Bman wave of regular season expansion I mean expansion and migration to the south and west took the NHL from 21 to 32 teams ultimately but in that decade of the 90s when they went from 21 to 30 the NHL transformed into a into a league that finally had what they always tried to get and that’s the relevance in the regular season they wanted to somehow bottle the playoff stress and the meaningfulness of the games into the regular season because they knew how special their playoff product is they can’t bottle playoff emotion but you ride the elevators Joe and you’ve seen it it’s dead silence you can cut it with an attention with a knife and every game means everything throughout the 82 that wasn’t the case in the 80s the last time that any team played three full complete regular seasons ending with the Stanley Cup final and that was the Young Lion Gretzky Oilers y and of 84 85 that’s the last time a team could do this Tampa Bay did technically make three straight Stanley Cup finals but we know the mitigating circumstances that are not make it not a comparable feat from a physical wear and tear standpoint the way this team plays accentuates that it’s time to talk about the Florida Panthers alongside the New Jersey Devils and the Detroit Red Wings as the very best of the post-dynastic NHL that is what we’re seeing here you know what I loved too Mick and probably honorable mention the Chicago Blackhawks for winning the Stanley Cup three times over that six-year period earlier in the cap era yeah they had a great run um no question about it um what I loved was um the way they handled last night um and the way they handled winning right i and this entire Stanley Cup final run you know VTEC Vanichek a backup goalie got one of those game pucks uh during this series when he didn’t play a game um the way they handed the cup after the game last night where Nate Schmidt was the first guy to get it because he had never won a cup before and all of the guy the first guys to get the cup and get their lap around the rank and they did they didn’t do the mini lap like around like a half like part of the so nice to see that come down to a full lap yeah they took a whole lap around the entire arena every single player got to like take their lap and enjoy it but they started with all the guys that had never won before um and the guys that were healthy scratches and guys that were black aces and guys that you know didn’t play in the series and all of those guys got their moment with the cup before they got it to Sergey Babsky and then they got it to all the other members of the team you know who who like have won before were big contributors all that stuff but they did all of that stuff in the exact right way to show what team is all about and I think that it’s too bad that it’s so late that a lot of like young hockey players and kids probably weren’t even up to see that but I hope they were i hope mom and dad let them stay up to watch that but I hope that they saw and their parents let them know and then sort of told them what was going on there so all of those kids can understand what a team is all about and what that you should be doing to be a good teammate and what should be rewarded and represented and talked about and like they they do it the right way and it’s part of the reason that they win is that that’s their approach you know and it’s it’s great to see on ice TV camera change the way the skate is done uh because of the wires i remember I was in Madison Square Garden when Messier skated the Stanley Cup in 1994 and and the wires were all over the cords were all over the ice and I’m thinking somebody’s going to step on one of these things i was and you know I mean it it was just an incredible atmosphere uh complete circus of emotion for those R longsuffering Ranger fans and so but you know they got through it everybody lived as far as I know and um but it’s so nice that in a post-wire era that now they’re finally the light bulb the goal light went on over their head hey we can start bringing the cup around the ice again without worrying about all this stuff and having to confine it to this little 20 foot patch i hated that you know it’s like okay you go up and down it’s like stops and starts with the Stanley Cup this was much more organic and fun to watch i don’t care if you hate the Florida Panthers and some teams do they’re a good hate team i get it but um because I lived through the Flyers and the mid70s the Devils when they came in 95 they’re easy to hate but they but you respect them in time you learn to appreciate them and and then you yeah try to emulate them and that’s what we’re going to see here is an NHL is going to try to emulate the Florida Panthers um ultimately the next team that wins usually does it differently uh than what they’re doing what their formula is but uh it it’s a sustainable formula in as much as they can stay healthy and that’s g and that what blows me away about what they’ve already done here yeah that’s what blows me away well because the way they play right I think it’s going to get more and more difficult for everybody to stay healthy just because it’s such a physical like uh intense uh frenetic way that they play uh where they just don’t back down and they keep coming at you and they keep pounding you and like that takes its toll physically after a while and you even heard Kachchuck talking last night about like injuries he was playing through that it sounds like he’s going to need surgery and like he didn’t even know if he’s going to be able to play in the final uh but he managed to to play and be very effective um and you you know you can hate the Florida Panthers right like I I saw a lot of stuff on social media and it seems like it’s from like casual like hockey fans or casual Bruins fans where they’re talking about Bruins fans should be angry or pissed that Brad Marshian won the cup or be angry at the Bruins or like is this the worst Bruins moment or whatever i’m so tired of that crap like well I just think it’s stupid you know what I mean like it’s let’s all be adults here let’s not be children and and try to say “Oh the you know the Panthers we hate them they’re our enemy brad Marshian shouldn’t be playing there.” Blah blah blah like the bottom line is like the way the Florida Panthers play whether you hate them whether they’re a rival team or not you have to respect and admire the way they play they do things the right way they play the right way in the playoffs they play exactly how every team would like to play if they had the ideal personnel and they were able to play that way marcus Sturm even mentioned that a couple times in his introductory press conference how you know he loves the way the Panthers play and he lives in Florida and sees them play a lot but he just doesn’t you know you have to have the horses and the personnel to be able to play that way otherwise you have to play a different style and the buyin to be Yeah to be and the buyin for sure to be effective you have to have all of that stuff and the depth really too um but like the bottom line is if you’re a Bruins fan you should be happy for Brad Marshian like you should be happy and and you should have been filled with joy to see him lift that cup and skate around the arena and celebrate as a champion again u because it’s obvious the Bruins are going in a different direction uh with the team right now and it’s going to be a retooling and it’s going to be take a couple of years it’s obvious Brad Marshian the competitor that he is the player that he is that was going to be a tough cell for him it was going to be difficult to keep him around and keep him happy knowing that they’re going to have to sink to the bottom before they rise up again in a couple you know over the course of a few years and find a new core group that’s going to be competitive be a playoff team and build to a cup contender that’s going to take time and for a 37y old that’s a competitor that’s won before and wants to win again that’s that’s not a great environment for them to be in so I I just don’t think it was going to work out here with him because of all that stuff and I think this past season was was exhibit A of that so you you it’s it’s almost like a win-winwin the Bruins got a first round pick in 2026 I believe it is or 27 for him that’s you know a couple years down the line maybe Florida like things will have slowed down a little bit there and maybe it’ll be a better first round pick but likely an end of the round first pick you know a a 30 30th 32nd pick um they get a first round pick for him they don’t have to like sign him to a contract where they’re not sure if they did the right thing they sent him exactly where he wanted to go he goes and wins the cup and rejuvenates himself um and and gets exactly what he deserves after being such a great player and a leader and everything for the Bruins like this is it you know Bour went to Colorado and won his first cup right and everybody was happy for him because it was his first cup this is a little different because it’s his second cup but there’s some similarities between the two and the way things worked out and the situation that that player was in in Boston before they were moved out that I I think you should be just as happy for Brad Marshian to watch him last night and watch what he had done throughout the the Stanley Cup playoffs in the final and probably was the runner up for the K smite to Sam Bennett and to see him win like you Mick you know as sports writers we don’t root for teams ever and it’s just ingrained in us the way we do what we do that you don’t root for teams but you do root for individuals and you root for a guy like Brad Marshian because he’s a good guy and he deserved all of that and he’s worked really hard and he’s he was a great Bruin he deserved every moment of that glory last night with that team and it was I think it’s something that Bruins fans should be happy for him about and not pissed or jealous or angry that he was doing it in a Panthers uniform and and feeling like you know sad or emotional about it like that’s little kid stuff this is you know he’s an adult he’s out there competing like be happy for him he’s a human being that you should be happy for because you cheered for him for so long i mean I’m happy for him i mean part of this is knowing him and we’re in a privileged position here as writers covering the team to actually know these guys yes i mean um and and it’s it’s rare for for fans to be that close to a player but seeing Marian’s family Yes and having his kids around now who were really not with him throughout most of this playoff run and his time in Florida because they were going to school in Boston and they were up in Boston he was basically away from his family from for for from the trade trade deadline on for months at a time and I think that’s part of the reason he was so emotional last night when he was talking after the game is because he was super happy to win but he was also super happy that his family was finally there after he’d had been doing it without them for like months at a time since he got traded down there yeah i mean however right you may be about where the Bruins are headed here in the immediate um they’re not selling it that way this they predicated their trade deadline selloff based on their belief that they can turn things around and be back in the playoffs next season well yeah yeah Mick what I’m what I’m saying is what I’m saying is it’s going to take a couple years before they’re going to be a cup contender i’m not saying it’s going to be terrible again next year i think they do have a realistic belief that they want to be in the a playoff contender next year but I don’t think they’re under any illusions that they think they’re going to be competing for a cup next year i think that No I I if we’re talking about cup contention I think we’re I think that’s a minimum three years away and and that’s Brad Marshian’s career ending so So uh in that regard it’s serendipity here for him to at the more appreciative end of his career you can have your head screwed on right and appreciate your opportunity to win at a young age um and then uh and now here he is with with children who are old enough to see it and um Yep and to be part of it and and that’s awesome for him and I feel like he’s very deserving the way he’s laid down his he’s laid down his body for the Boston Bruins uh very similarly to the way the great players of the past whether it be Wayne Cashman or Terry O’Reilly or any any of these of I mean the greatest of all time Bobby or you know you have you have uh players who just give up their body for their team and they play through anything in order to win because they believe in it and Marian did that for the Boston Bruins it’s really hard from a Boston standpoint to begrudge him this opportunity to win to win late in his career with his family to witness it and uh you know I mean hearing him speak on the ice about how much he loves those guys and how much they you know and this and that you know it it it was kind of like it it was a little weirdness there because I’ve heard him say it for so many years in Boston that to suddenly be able to achieve that in such a short time in Florida but other guys on that team said similar things that they felt they were made to feel like they’d been around a long time even if they hadn’t been around very long and that goes to Sasha Barov and the way they do it and what they how they believe the way Sergey Babrovski treats his teammates you know and a guy blocks a shot and gets injured doing it and has to hobble off the ice that guy gets like a bottle of wine that I’ll never see in in my life yeah I mean this guy I mean they just go to great lengths to bring it out of one another the culture there is fantastic i’m sure that Marian appreciates everything about the culture he had in Boston and he’s seeing it from another prism over in Florida and seeing that other teams can can do it and do it even better so that’s what he’s experiencing right now and good for him and I think you know it had probably been a couple years at least a year since he’d really felt that way about being on a team you know that that had a legit chance at winning and that he was amongst that group um so I think he appreciated it more too after going what he had gone through in the in the first half of this year uh being in a situation like that um that you know felt familiar to him um from when teams are on the cusp of winning know they can win you know have a legit chance to win the cup like under and play that way like all that stuff um I think it it brought the best out of him but it certainly brought him back to that mindset where I think he was in a different mindset the first half of the year and there was a couple of times this year with the Bruins even early on in the year the way he was talking you could kind of tell this was not going to be their season and he got it like he understood that they were going through some stuff and this was not going to be a great year for the Bruins and he knew that very early on like he recognized that you could just tell with talking to him and the way he said things that he understood that um as a leader and as somebody that knew when a chance had a legit uh a team had a legit chance to win or a team does not um so like you know being put in that back in that situation I think you know he had true uh gratefulness and joyfulness and and respect for that situation and reverence for it because he understood that it’s fleeting and that he was not in that situation in the first part um of this year uh it’s going to be interesting though um moving forward for that team like Marian’s a free agent Sam Bennett’s a free agent they they’re facing some big-time decisions sam Bennett wins the Khan Smite leads all players and goals scored during the playoffs and yes he’s like a player a good player during the regular season not a you know a superstar but he’s a superstar in the playoffs and he does it year in year that’s probably the best that’s probably the best thing possible for whoever gets him because if he played the way he does in the playoffs the whole season he’d make he wouldn’t be making it to the playoffs right his season would be shut down do you think oh no human can do like play the way he plays 82 plus two months no 100% and he’s and like he’s a he’s a decentsized player but he’s not like a huge player either like playing that way and that recklessly like he would not be able to do that at the size that he is but um do you think it’s realistic that they’re going to be able to keep uh this nucleus core group together because I believe Marshian’s going to take less to stay in Florida now after having won and you know found a home there and found somewhere he’s comfortable i think he’s the kind of guy if it’s a good situation especially if they have a chance to win cups every year and go deep in the playoffs he’s probably going to take a little less to stay in a situation like that and it’s east coast so it’s not too far away you know if his family stays in Boston he’s you know not too far away or they could move to Florida but like I mean it shouldn’t be a tough cell for anybody to want to stay in Florida if the team is good too either and live in Fort Lauderdale around that’s not exactly uh that that’s pretty good living for a couple years during the hockey season talk yeah I um Yeah I know could you imagine him having a Debbie the first winter of his life that wasn’t there was a warm weather winter except for road trips yeah um I think Eklad is going to be the one that the real tough decision for them yeah i think if Marian’s willing to cut back on his on his request then then I’m sure they’d love to keep him aboard uh keep him around for another another couple two three but um the fact that he found the fountain of youth you know if they he gets to July one then then I don’t see them keeping him because then there’s going to be offers that some teams that need something are going to say “I’ll take some of that you know.” And um Yep because he really he really did i mean we saw him skate better this past season in the Boston uniform yep than he had more closer to his double lab surgery of a few years ago yep and uh even though this season started out slow for the team and slow for him because of his other minor offseason surgeries he had three of them uh but for him to it seemed like there was a point in the mid-season where he was moving better and um and then later in the season something was bothering him and he kind of it kind of went downhill again for him so for him to find the fountain of youth and look like old Marartian I had seen him play like that since the 2021 series against the Caps and then the Islanders where he stole that game in New York where he scored that overtime goal brushing down the left wing and firing a bad angle roofer just a vintage Marian goal and then you see him do it here in in this final here it’s just uh so inspiring and fun to watch him reach back and can he can he if a team overpays then they might be expecting they’re going to get that for six months they’re not it’s just not it’s not uh any more than Sam Bennett’s going to play like that for six months but you might get playoff mar in the playoffs so if I’m a guy team like Dallas stars and saying how the hell did this fall apart on us you know what did we do wrong here and then then I’m probably going to pony up for that guy y Eplat is the one that I think they’re going to have a hard time keeping because um I don’t really know how they feel about their decor and if they feel like it needs some some identity def redefinition uh and that will probably be told to us and what they do with that glad uh they got to keep more yeah more on this after the break uh let’s um give a little space to prize picks the largest daily fantasy sports platform in North America and the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports join over 10 million 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sports where elite effort can beat elite skill florida is the ultimate playoff team they come at you in waves and they never stop and that wears out their opponent especially in a sevengame series and this is from Legion 681 the Panthers destroy everything with their depth the Oilers have the best player in the world and another one that is top three to four and it still isn’t enough they’ll grind you to dust if they can keep this team together they’ll be a dynasty already very close to that uh I think this is exactly right i think it’s about the depth they have uh the effort and the will that they bring to the table and all of that stuff uh on the other side of the coin we’ve got the Edmonton Oilers Mick that have fallen short for a couple years now um not as close this time as it was a year ago i didn’t feel like it was going to be as close this time either and it it it turned out that way and really this time um McDavid was not great in the Stanley Cup final he had a couple of of good games uh Leon Dryidle was the one that really stepped up and had some uh better games and helped them get win at least a couple of games in the series um but you know you start to wonder if they’re just going to keep running it back with this Edmonton Oilers group when they’ve fallen short against the Panthers a couple of times uh even though they’ve got the two best players in the in you know or two of the best players in the world in McDavid and dry it’s clearly not enough um going to be interesting to see what they do and you wonder you know how much criticism is going to come McDavid’s way for not being u as dominant as you would want the best player in the world to be uh in the most important time of the year in the biggest series uh trying to win his first Stanley Cup would not give him an ounce of crap about that um I feel like I feel like Florida had the benefit of pro scouting him for seven games last year and they put in uh some strategy knowing that they weren’t going to have Zack Heyman um and the threat they take more chances that other guys aren’t going to beat them and they tried to be more proactive on stepping up in the neutral zone against McDavid and taking more chances that other guys aren’t going to get through if I’m more disappointed it’s more insane than Nen Hopkins because I feel like this is a golden opportunity for him to make a bigger stamp on a series and be a player that um that gets overshadowed well you know something where was he you know I don’t I don’t I don’t see I didn’t see him take more rope there um I just saw him getting into rat you know getting sucked into the eddy of of post whistle shoving and uh punches in the face and you know and so to me it’s like come on nude you’re this far down in your career i wanted more from him in this thing uh to to uh if I was going to pull for Edmonton here and Dol I thought was really good i thought McDavid was trying to be McDavid i just thought that uh a village one player against a village as good as the Panthers village is a tough is a tough thing to crack um you know I saw Jia Perau run up against the Philadelphia Flyers in 75 very similar situation you can be a great player but a great team always beats a great player um Yep and I and if I’m Edmonton I think I I think it’s for them they got to fix the goalie thing that’s that’s absolutely number one yep and and I’d also say this I for years have been saying the Oilers need Matias Ekholm the Bruins need Matias Ekholm the Oilers finally get Matias Echol and it changes their team and they make it to the Stanley final in consecutive years however what the hell was he doing there playing puck on Reinhardt on that first goal he comes over there and he tries to get Puck oh he should Reinhardt should have been on his on his tail pad picking himself up off the ice y that’s that was an incredible mistake by a great defensive defenseman who you know and but this is what the Florida Panthers can do to teams yes they can they can get you out of your mindset they can twist your brain and as a group this is what they do uh by the way off topic slightly off topic here um my friend uh I believe assuming it’s Dennis Vtor in my texting chain he is always on top of all the breaking news and just texted that the Oilers are going to lock up Trent Frederick on a long-term contract at a lower AAV yeah that that has been out there i’ve I’ve seen that one um from a couple of different places even before the end of the Stanley Cup final that they were very interested in keeping him and it was going to be for a long-term deal shorter money and and Trent Frederick told me earlier this year when we talked about it that the most important thing for him in free agency was having the peace of mind of having a longer term deal he’d always gone like yeartoyear or max two years with the Bruins and he always had that kind of hanging over his head uh without that certainty and that security and that’s something he said he really really wanted and valued and and was a big part of it so it makes total sense that he would stick around on a long-term deal and probably test take much less AAV than he might get elsewhere on a shorter term deal uh to stick around in a place where he liked it and you know where he he found a a good situation for himself but you know he’s going to be a fourthline guy there he’s going to have to start playing like a fourthline guy I think maybe third line once in a while but he’s gonna have to continue to like figure out exactly what he is and make sure he’s playing the way like his skill set and his job requires him to play instead of like you know fancying himself like a top six guy or more of a skill guy he needs to continue to make those hard plays and play to his size and strength I feel absolutely yeah and you’ be interested to see what how he finally things shake out and what they look at for his role in their bottom six um and when you’re talking about the Panthers depth I couldn’t help thinking how happy Thomas Nosk looked to be sharing the Stanley Cup with his wife and his kid and and and AJ Greer Yasper Boquist I’m thinking like I didn’t think that they could um uh Stenland I thought was such a great fourthline center for them that when he left and then Montro leaves I didn’t give them a and Ecman Larson leaves I didn’t give them a prayer this year not a prayer if there was one thing I was sure of going into the season is that the Florida Panthers would not be in that series last night much less win it so this is what great all this is why I am so adamant that this is now a team that has to be looked at alongside the New Jersey Devils of 95 2000 and 2003 and the Detroit Red Wings of uh 97 98 02 if not 08 as well um you know so this is a this is a team that that has a core that that uh has been able to do something ex really special here uh I suppose we could talk about the Blackhawks and the Kings that that sandwich themselves inside the Blackhawks three straight ch three championships the Kings had two in there they battled each other to a game seven overtime in the conference final so I suppose I suppose they won one in on that conversation but I’m really impressed with what I’ve seen from the Florida Panthers in this era the way they play and their ability to sustain it with an everchanging cast it just assimilates to the Borg they pick up their shovels they go to work and they get it done it’s unbelievable no this this feels a little different than the Blackhawks and the Kings to me uh watching what they’ve done the last three years and and winning back to back and you know essentially things have changed since Matthew Kachchuck got there really i mean he changed I think everything for that team top to bottom him getting there turned them into what they are now and they’ve just added to it bill Zitto’s done a great job i would put Bennett equal to I would put Bennett equal to that because I feel like so much of what Kachchuk does stands on the shoulders of Bennett’s physicality yeah i I just own brand of getting under skin and clutch goals you know he’s been a very good player there’s no doubt about it but I really feel like uh the things there was a tipping point when Kachchuck got there where things have been different but to your point about Edmonton and the To your point about Edmonton and the goalenders they they need to do something about it steuart Skinner that play last night where he doesn’t glove that puck get a whistle and he just lets it bounce off of him and he turns into a rebound goal and it’s three to nothing like he needs to make a better He had to lose that he had to lose that puck because he flinched he flinched when it hit him yeah so he must not have he must even though it was flung by Verhagi from the perimeter he must have lost it somehow because you know you could see everybody thought he was going to catch it and get a whistle because everybody kind of stopped playing like everybody expected him all day there you know it was a total muffin floating towards him and somehow he you know wasn’t even a tumbling muffin no not even but um but to your point like and he said the same thing about Ekholm the way the Panthers play forces you into physical and mental mistakes as a series goes on they grind and wear you down where you start making those kind of mistakes and they pounce on them and that’s how they win that’s part of their plan over a seven game series that’s part of any good hockey team’s plan is to wear you down to the point where that stuff hap starts to happen i remember I remember a play where uh Dennis Seidenberg uh it was in the Stanley Cup final against the Blackhawks do you remember this where uh it was a game-winning goal for the Blackhawks where he lost his glove in the corner and he went and go got to go get his glove instead of going to the front of the net and in continuing to play and they end up like scoring a game-winning goal on that play and I was like what was he doing why did he go get his glove wait for the whistle like you know but you got to you got to get a whistle and finish out the play but like I think and it was I think it was late i think they had been playing like it was maybe like an overtime game or something like that so I’m sure fatigue is that game four that Brent Seabbrook won on the rush it might have been but it was it it I remember thinking fatigue was definitely a part of what happened there is he was just in autopilot and like oh I got to go get my glove was not even thinking like awareness-wise I need to get to the front of the net and finish off this play and not let them score here um but all right that’s a a different thought for a different day uh one final thing before we go mick uh Bruins development camp roster temp a preliminary roster I guess you would call it announced uh yesterday for fourth of July week uh that’s when development camp is going to be traditionally right after the NHL draft i would assume most if not all of the drafted players will be at that development camp maybe there’ll be a couple more invites but uh guys like Dalton Bankraftoft uh Zeers who they traded for was among the names there um that were going to be on the preliminary list and were already there just uh any anything that intrigued you or any anybody you’re in particular you’re looking to watch and curious about uh of the names that you saw brooft is at the top of my list yeah because he’s going to be 25 years old and before we get to the next NHL playoffs yeah and he should be a dominant figure he should be a dominant figure in a development camp like that there’s no question about it and especially with the rest of this cast is extremely young yes there’s very amateur i think there’s one guy with Providence Bruins experience and it’s Jackson Edward and he played 31 games for them so So Dalton Bankraftoft you don’t win uh a lot of people a lot of teams wanted Dalton Bank ncaa free agent uh he’ll be 25 years old next winter uh if you want that player then you think he can play for you now and I think this is and bringing him into development camp at such an age group misfit to me uh speaks very loudly as to and Andre Gasso by the way is back uh in the development camp which is interesting because I don’t really know for sure that he’s going back to BC where I assume he’d be captain of the team or if he’s going to turn pro and join the Bruins i imagine the Bruins really would love for him to turn pro here it’s a great time for opportunity in Boston so I think that seeing both of those guys together and being able to get a look at them and and try to evaluate them against this group I think that those are especially in the case of Bra who has turned pro this is a huge uh everything is huge for him this summer everything because I think the Bruins want him to make the team and and be uh a right winger behind David Pastnak um on a you know hopefully a second line uh but uh is he is he an NHL player can he keep up uh what what uh what do we got there i think they need to I think that’s what they want to know everybody else I think they’re pretty much taking their temperature and just hopefully checking in on them hoping things are going well with them i’m really looking forward to watching Elliot Grwald and Chris Pelosi from Quinnipic those are two players that look to me like uh legit NHL prospects that are guys that really kind of excite me as potential uh NHLers a few years down the road here um after they get at least a couple more years at Quinnipak yep no I like both of them at development camp last year grwald was the one that stood out to me a lot as as a defenseman a big Vermont kid like he was skilled too like he was a good player uh you noticed him right away uh but it’s you know you go into it and a lot of them a lot of fans or people that are at the at Warrioring these sessions will assume that everybody’s on sort of equal footing here and the thing is and you’re right like the one the kid the the players that are in their mid20s the players that have gone through all the years of college the players that have some pro experience they should and need to stand out at these development camps they really need to be the most dominant players the ones you notice the most um if they’re going to uh equip themselves well like when when new guys come in like the let’s say Dean Lo last year when he came in for his first development camp after playing like you know high school basically high school prep hockey in Canada like you expected him to struggle and and not to be at the level that a lot of those other guys were even though he was a first round pick and he and he did to a degree like he flashed a little bit but he definitely had his moments where he was having a hard time and that’s how you knew he wasn’t going to be this like superstar at BC going into last year and that it was going to be a learning year for him um so those kind of players you have to give a little bit more leash and understanding that they’re not going to be dominating everything but the guys that have been around for a while and some of them are maybe like six seven years older than the other players and have man strength and and man abilities as opposed to the kids that are teenagers and just coming out and going to college and things like that like you know you got to put all of that stuff into the blender when you’re evaluating and when you’re watching these prospects but I’m I’m interested talking about LNO like he’s a blown pick i don’t think so i’m looking at Yeah i’m looking at him like like um this is a project they’re looking at the long the very long haul with this guy i when I’m games I watched with BC last year on TV i felt like he had good instincts on the forward check good ideas he I thought he was smart i thought he he obviously can shoot the puck he skates well but he doesn’t have man strength yet that you just alluded to and so smaller thicker bodies uh won those 5050s from him with great consistency and so um the fact that uh you know that they were willing to put him on the ice in onegoal games in the third period u so they know that he’s not a that he plays a team concept game so it’s uh so I think I’m looking forward to to seeing him too just to but not with an eye on boy he better come around because that’s a first round i’m not thinking like that with him thinking like let’s just this is going to be an incremental thing and and it might be glorious when it gets to the end but it’s a journey it’s a journey with him he didn’t think it would be that long but we all kind of like looked at each other like yeah I don’t think this is going to be one year one and done at BC no but I mean that’s you know I think a lot of people expect a first round pick to come in and dazzle you immediately and I you just knew that wasn’t going to be the case with this kind of player and that it was going to be a longer term investment that I will say the one thing I noticed at BC more than anything else I think you’re right like he generally knew where he was supposed to be and he generally like I thought he moved well enough for a guy his size but I also think he kind of like faded into the background a lot you know there was a lot of like shifts where you he really nothing was good really going on you know when he was out there no no yeah that’s right and and I think that’s kind of what you you want to see that change like that needs to change over the next year or two where he’s consistently more of a factor every single shift more impactful more impactful shifts yeah you know and and that that’s something you didn’t see enough of uh last year but understandable like he probably shouldn’t have even been there he was rushed in a year early um into that situation where like he was supposed to go to the USHL instead so like I get it and I think you have to be patient with him because of all of that and because of all the backstory with him and sort of that knowledge going in um but yeah I’m curious about that i’m really curious about Zeers because like it seemed like he really had a great season this past year and there was fanfare about him being in included in that trade i think it was the Charlie Coyle trade right he was a a Colorado Avalanche prospect uh yeah I guess we’ll see how he’s going to stack up with these other guys in development camp as well yeah he might be I’m I’m afraid he might be one of those guys who’s going to look really good in development camp but when he starts playing man hockey I don’t know i don’t know i’m just I don’t I don’t get the sense that he is a that he’s a well-rounded player yeah hey if you can do something really good sometimes you don’t need to be all that well oh they can teach you how to be well-rounded right Mick that’s that’s the sense I get he could he could teach most of them but we we’re kind of we got a we got an elephant in the kitchen here and he’s not in development camp all right uh Mick thank you very much for joining us uh let’s thank uh Prize Pick uh the largest daily fantasy sports platform in North America download the Prize Pix app today and use the code CLNS and get $50 instantly when you play $5 that’s code CLNS on Prize Pix to get $50 instantly when you play five bucks you don’t even need to win to receive the $50 bonus it’s guaranteed prize picks run your game uh we’re also uh saying uh signing off and saying goodbye with the Pucks with a podcast a proud member of the CLNS Media Network make sure to hit subscribe to the Bruins Ringside YouTube channel and turn on notifications for when a new video drops on the interwebs mick thank you very much for joining us always fun Joe thanks for having me everybody else out there we’ll see you at the ring [Music] heat heat [Music] [Applause]

On this episode of Pucks with Haggs, host Joe Haggerty and Mick Colageo discuss the Panthers beating the Oilers in the Stanley Cup Final. The conversation turns to Brad Marchand, and whether fans should be happy for him winning a Stanley Cup with somebody else. 

0:00 Welcome
2:21 The Panthers win the Stanley Cup
11:34 Should Bruins fans be happy for Brad Marchand?
19:55 Can the Panthers keep this group together?
24:08 PrizePicks
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25:46 Why the Oilers came up short again
30:08 Trent Frederic close to signing a long-term extension
31:48 Why the Panthers are a special team
34:10 Edmonton needs to fix their goaltender situation
36:17 Bruins preliminary roster for development camp announced
40:44 Expectations for Dean Letourneau and William Zellers
44:02 Thanks for watching!
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