Star signing Thierno Barry joins the squad at Finch Farm

Mike Allison

1 Posted
21/07/2025 at
13:59:05

Moyes talked about wanting new signings before the trip to USA. That’s looking increasingly unlikely.

Although still only pre-season games, and in many ways a marketing exercise, these are the games where tactics and partnerships should start to be developed in readiness for the new season.

Neil Lawson

2 Posted
21/07/2025 at
14:24:22

“Star signing”? A bit premature methinks.

Only time will tell but let’s cross our fingers and hope to see the net bulge.

Joe McMahon

3 Posted
21/07/2025 at
14:41:46

Star signing? The only signing more like.

I hope he likes relegation battles.

Jay Harris

4 Posted
21/07/2025 at
15:12:56

Let’s hope he didn’t watch the friendlies or he might want to go back.

Annika Herbert

5 Posted
21/07/2025 at
15:47:12

A bit early to suggest this guy is a star signing. Fingers crossed it works out though.

Basically he is our only signing so far. So much for let’s way until July! That’s when we will get our business done.

I am still waiting!

Kieran Kinsella

6 Posted
21/07/2025 at
16:03:44

Mike Allison,

Nothing changes. In his prior stint, every May we’d hear “We want to get in five or six early.” Then it would be “We need four new signings before we go on tour.”

Then crickets until 12 hours before deadline day ends: “We hope to bring in maybe one or two on loan.”

Andrew Merrick

7 Posted
21/07/2025 at
16:18:05

I’m not sure it’s right to lay all this on Moyes this time round. Circumstances have left him being the focus of our transfer business, and I believe his intentions are all good.

Numerous posters have identified the challenges in this window, so it’s fair to assume Moyes is as frustrated as anyone, and we just don’t know the extent of his efforts to date.

I moan as much as the next guy, but I’m still hoping for a few good signings that make a difference, and fully anticipate some less glamorous signings to fill the ranks.

Robert Tressell

8 Posted
21/07/2025 at
16:24:43

Moyes is experienced enough to know the ropes.

The delay (to the extent there even is one) is nothing to do with him and all down to market forces and money.

Eric Myles

9 Posted
21/07/2025 at
16:26:34

First day on the job and he’s having a nap!

Kieran Kinsella

10 Posted
21/07/2025 at
16:27:53

Andrew,

My intention wasn’t to blame Moyes — more to illustrate the continuing saga he finds himself presented with when it comes to transfers, money, and Everton.

Annika Herbert

11 Posted
21/07/2025 at
16:34:54

As I understand it, one of the big problems Moyes had with West Ham was his insistence on having the final say on all incoming transfers.

So to suggest Moyes has no input on our transfer dealings is wishful thinking at best. He will be involved in every step, save for the amount he can spend.

David West

12 Posted
21/07/2025 at
16:43:10

This delay in signings was inevitable when you think we’ve got a whole new recruitment department.

It’s one of the reasons I would have kept Thelwell, at least for this year, with the big turnaround in numbers in the squad.

Ian Jones

13 Posted
21/07/2025 at
17:27:21

Joe and Annika, let’s not forget our new goalie, Mark Travers, so two signings and, if you count the permanence of Charly Alcaraz, technically that’s three.

I am sure more will follow and even if they don’t, I feel sure we’ll have enough for the season with some enthusiastic but inexperienced youngsters.

Kunal Desai

14 Posted
21/07/2025 at
17:54:23

Although I expected one or two more siginings by now, I’ll hold off and reserve judgement prior to Leeds away on 18 August.

Lots can still happen, plenty of motions still in progress on deals, varying dependencies, so lots can and will change.

We’ll know and learn a lot more about TFG by the time the window closes. The next 6 weeks will be interesting either way.

Les Moorcroft

15 Posted
21/07/2025 at
18:03:28

Do think we will only get the best of the rest. Teams in Europe will get first pick.

Players say they want to play in Europe. Then we will see what’s left.

Any under-21s are on holiday. We have emptied out, so it’s about sliding them in. Only my view.

Justin Doone

16 Posted
21/07/2025 at
19:14:12

I agree, Thelwell should have been kept for a handover whilst others are not yet in the door or up to speed.

I’m 99% convinced we will be scrambling on transfer deadline day.

Barry is not a ‘star player’ until he proves himself over several seasons. Until then, I will continue to wish, dream and hope a couple more players in can transform us into a very good team.

Ian Bennett

17 Posted
21/07/2025 at
19:19:02

Not being funny, but if any if us had nearly 1,000 Premier League games under the clock, we’d be wanting the final say on transfers when the squad is thin and resources tight.

Sean Kelly

18 Posted
21/07/2025 at
19:38:58

I don’t see much improvement so far in this window compared to others.

Okay, we got Barry for £27½M but a couple of windows ago we got Beto for £25M.

There is a pattern where players do not want to come here. They leave it late to see if others come in but also to get better personal terms from a desperate Everton as the clock ticks towards closure.

As much of a greedy sod our beloved Bill was, he was a salesman to the point where he got maximum return – but the club didn’t.

Grant Rorrison

19 Posted
21/07/2025 at
19:50:44

As we don’t look like we could turnover Bury currently; he’d have to be really shit not to improve us.

There was a joke there in case anyone missed it.

Danny O’Neill

20 Posted
21/07/2025 at
19:51:15

Relegation battles? He and we haven’t kicked a ball in anger yet.

I don’t think it’s a case of Moyes not having input into transfers, I just don’t think he will have overall control that he previously liked.

At the moment, it feels like not all of the pieces of the jigsaw are in place, so it’s down to Kinnear and Moyes.

Those who know Moyes, which most of us do, know that he has a cautious and considered approach… often leaving it late. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few late arrivals, even on deadline day.

Maybe it’s not all in his control. It could be players holding out for something else, the club not sanctioning a transfer, so I won’t put it all down to him, but we are familiar with how he operates.

Jack Convery

21 Posted
21/07/2025 at
20:05:56

Having 9 Premier League teams in Europe is definitely not helping our cause.

Seems to me, we may be haggling far too hard and allowing other teams to gazump us, when we finally agree on a price. Time to get real and get on with it.

Brian Harrison

22 Posted
21/07/2025 at
20:08:57

I think that we have to be real regarding transfers.

We are not at the moment a club that players would see as a place to come to. We have spent the last few years fighting relegation and we are trying to attract players who could play in the Europa League, so trying to get better players in is difficult given our past history.

Having said all of that, Moyes will have wanted a couple more additions prior to playing in the tournament in The States, so will be more frustrated that this hasn’t happened.

But we need quality and not just extra bodies, and I am sure Moyes and his team are working tirelessly to add some quality before the season starts.

Mike Gaynes

23 Posted
21/07/2025 at
20:29:01

Brian #22, spot on, and the fact that we are apparently targeting real quality means that we’re competing for players who have multiple suitors, some of whom can offer bigger money and more Euro opportunities than we can.

These players have no reason to rush into a decision just so our fans can sleep better.

David #12, and the new recruiting team is not yet all aboard. Two of the five-man team named to identify and negotiate with potential signings are still contractually obligated to their current Manchester clubs — one at United, one at City — until late summer.

Michael Kenrick

24 Posted
21/07/2025 at
20:53:04

Ah, good stumper, Grant.

We’ve got Eccles Cakes and Bakewell Tarts, which describe some of our lot to a tee…

So I reckon it’s Ma Beaton’s Famous Bury Turnover! LMAO!

Tony Abrahams

25 Posted
21/07/2025 at
21:35:26

This sounds like a stupid question Mike, but how come Everton, have got to wait until the end of summer for two of our new five man team?

Did they have to both give their club, three months notice, once they decided to join Everton, or is it because of other reasons?

I don’t have a clue who we are going for, although if you believe some of the click bait websites, then we are apparently in for everyone.

I agree it’s better not rushing and making mistakes, but a part of me also feels that if we don’t get in a few players soon, then this might end up being an even bigger mistake?

The premier league is not like it was twenty years ago, when everyone considered it to be a marathon rather than a sprint.

It’s obviously still the same marathon, but people think differently nowadays and anyone who doesn’t get off to a decent start suddenly find themselves under a lot more pressure.

Hopefully Moyes, gets his players otherwise he might be under a lot of pressure before the two fella’s from Manchester arrive?

Ian Bennett

26 Posted
21/07/2025 at
21:47:09

Theyre on garden leave Tony. Assume they had to work 6 months notice or equivalent.

Andrew Merrick

27 Posted
21/07/2025 at
21:48:33

And it is all the more surprising that Thelwell was allowed or asked to leave before we had a replacement.
Who thought that was a good idea?

Steve Shave

28 Posted
21/07/2025 at
21:56:26

We need to all chill. The market bottlenecks as the champions league teams pick off their targets. Once a player knows he isn’t getting that move then this opens things up for the rest of us.

Things will move quickly once the ball is rolling. There isn’t loads of business being done right at this moment in time. By the end of the window we will have 4 more players, 3 of whom will walk into our first team. I feel confident.

Iain Johnston

29 Posted
21/07/2025 at
22:13:55

Don’t really get that we’re not attractive and players want European football.
Barry has been signed from a club which wil be playing Champions League football next season.

McAtee was a target, well, when the price was around £20m but now City want £35m we’re out of that now.

Tete did a U turn after agreeing personal terms & Walker Peters wanted to stay close to London for his own personal reasons.

Personally I was hoping for Ndidi & Kubo but it’s stone cold now.

Brendan Fox

30 Posted
21/07/2025 at
22:19:15

Anjishnu France didn’t finish as runners up at the Euro U21’s as that was ze Germans.

Christine Foster

31 Posted
21/07/2025 at
22:28:13

Ah Michael, as you well know, everyone’s a fruit and nut case, but as one of the few “Bakewell tarts” you refer too, I would point out according to Mrs Beeton

“trivial complaints and annoyances should not dominate conversations, promoting a more positive and purposeful atmosphere”

but as much as ToffeeWeb can be enjoyed, Mrs Beeton’s it can be a cruel place too, indeed I read that some eggs are beaten and cream is whipped, utterly disgraceful. At least on ToffeeWeb you are only verbally lashed, ridiculed or brow beaten into obscurity, hardly compatible.

If “Manners make the man” then surely we have a surplus of plum puddings on ToffeeWeb?

Paul Kernot

32 Posted
21/07/2025 at
22:29:29

I think this will play right into the hands of Harrison Armstrong in that he’ll play perhaps more in the States than Moyes may have initially anticipated. It’s obvious he’s a gem albeit young. Hopefully he’ll play himself right into the squad for this season rather than being loaned out again.

Robert Williams

33 Posted
21/07/2025 at
22:38:46

MK24 I love Eccles cakes and Bakewell tarts but my favourite is Bury Black Pudding – !

Robert Tressell

34 Posted
21/07/2025 at
22:57:58

Iain # 29, agreed – wages are what most footballers are after with European football very much a nice to have.

Mike Keating

35 Posted
21/07/2025 at
23:34:23

Robert # 33
Have you tried Conarkilty white pudding?
Bloody marvellous.

Paul Kossoff

36 Posted
21/07/2025 at
23:46:00

Christine 31. “If “Manners make the man” then surely we have a surplus of plum puddings on ToffeeWeb?”
Five stars for the truth of the day. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Most of the plums on here are truly duffed.😁

Martin Berry

37 Posted
21/07/2025 at
23:58:58

He’ sleeping on the job already !
Hopefully he is dreaming of additions like the rest of us

Dennis Stevens

38 Posted
22/07/2025 at
00:03:07

Indeed, Christine, eggs should be hard boiled & then pickled – then battered & deep fried!