Why the Kraken are making us sad

Why the Kraken are making us sad

[Music] Get down. [Music] and a slightly Pre-taped episodes set to release on Thursday, July 24th in the United States of Canada. This is a show called What Chaos presented by Prize Pick. Download the Prize Pick app today and use code What Chaos and get $50 instantly when you play $5. Prize Pick. Run your game in Boston, Massachusetts. My name is David Bean. Across the internet is Pete Blackburn. And across the room is Sean Depaz. Sean, uh, people do the, uh, across the room stuff with you online and on Twitter. You noticed that? I have. That’s a thing that’s kind of caught on. I always thought that it was something that was, uh, just for us. Nothing’s ever for us when you do it publicly on a podcast, I suppose. How’s it going, Pete? It’s going good. Thanks for asking, Sean. Much appreciated. How are you? I’m doing all right. It’s uh, not a whole lot going on right now. Okay. Uh well then Pete, why don’t you tell the folks it’s on the show because uh that’s going to change Sean’s mind about what’s going on today on the show. We will be talking about trades imminent question mark uh exclamation point. It’s very very excited. We’re asking they’re going to be trades. We’re not talking about that. That’s that’s just going to be today on the show every week. That’s we’re not going to talk about that. It’s not happening. It’s like I never thought the offer sheets were happening, but remember there were going to be all these offer sheets. Yeah. It’s so funny that people thought offer sheets were happening when like free agents aren’t even like UFAs. I found out today Jack Rosavic is just like twisting in the wind. This is the most boring off season ever. It’s It’s unbelievably boring. Even like we didn’t even get free agents on July 1st. half the free agents that we were supposed to get on July 1st. Like, nah, I’m good. So, what an off seasonason. Uh, football or something is the next topic. Kind of excited to see what that’s all about. And then third, save the Kraken, which somehow like we’ve we’ve got to hockey, like an actual hockey thing. And that might actually be the least interesting of the three that we’ve said here because everything about the Seattle Kraken deeply, deeply uninteresting. But we’re going to find a way to make them interesting on today’s episode. So stick around for that. And finally, movies. I know what that’s about. We’re going to talk about Edington a little bit because that is the movie to talk about this summer. Oh my god, I love it. We’ll get into movies later and we’ll get into our expectations for Happy Gilmore 2. We’ll have a movie review coming on Friday. That’s very exciting. Make sure you subscribe to the YouTube. But yes, mainly Pete and I got a gab about Edington. This is like this is our side hustle this show. Our full-time job is talking to each other about movies and we haven’t really talked about Edington yet. We’ve done it lightly on group texts, but we’re going to jump in. We got to start like scheduling like a like a weekly or bi-weekly trip to like a brewery or bar or something to to cuz like that’s where we do our best business now that we don’t have brunch. Like that’s where we go and talk shop when it comes to movies and stuff. and and Edington is is definitely like I I you were uh you were texting with our pal Alec um about Edington and I just like excuse myself from that conversation because respectfully like Edington to me is not a movie that you text about. It’s a movie that you like have beers over maybe like a light app and you get into it because that movie you gota you got to see the facial expressions on the person that you’re talking to. You got to get thoughts flying both ways very, very rapidly. That movie is just such a conversation piece. I’m excited about it. Okay, here’s the deal. I’m free tomorrow night. Tonight for anybody listening to this episode, Thursday, July 24th, United States and Canada. We’ll talk about the movie on this episode, but let’s still go like grab a beer, grab a bite, and talk about Edington later on tomorrow. I’ve got stuff during the day, but at night, even if I have stuff, I’ll cancel. What say you? I’m down. Yeah. What do you know about F1? You see F1? I did not see F1. Is that Is that streaming yet? No. I f One of my friends texted yesterday and was like, uh, going to go to see a movie. Uh, and one of my friends was like, “If F1 is still in theaters, see it.” And I was like, “Oh [ __ ] if it’s still in theaters, I will tell you.” So, I did that. We’ll talk about that later on. Probably not in theaters season. It’s probably not in It’s probably not in theaters because I think like the movie theaters are only allowed to have movies that have Pedro Pascal in them in theaters right now. No, you see that thing the the reel about the AMC? No, it was like come to AMC where you can see a Pedro Pascal movie or a Pedro Pascal movie or a kids movie with Pedro Pascal and like the camera’s just move like Pedro Pascal is in everything and I’m not going to name names. Uh there is a hater in my life not named Shawn who has always kind of been like Pedro Pascal is fine. You’re all just really excited about him. And I knew that at some point we get Pascal fatigue. I don’t really have it, but I think it’s fair if the world has Pascal fatigue. I mean, if you don’t have it now, you’re you’ve missed the boat. Yeah. You don’t get to say you have it at a later point. You get to say it now. Chat, let us know if you’re uh if you have Pascal fatigue. I don’t. I think he’s just like a a lovely human. I I hope he seems like a lovely human. Uh he’s a good actor and I have no problem with him being in everything. Speaking of great humans, uh I don’t follow many celebrities on the uh IG, but I always followed Malcolm Jamal Warner and uh we lost the great Malcolm Jamal Warner, star of the Cosby Show. And I don’t know what there is to say other than like Aussie died too. So like the celebrities are dying very sad. Azie meant a lot to me in middle school and high school. Anybody who plays guitar listens to the music of Azie Osborne because he has such great guitarists. But Malcolm Jamal Warner for some reason that’s like an an especially tough celebrity death for for me. Like Cosby Show was my favorite show. Uh Theo was a very good role model for dumb kids who aren’t like actual bad people. Like kids who will get yelled at by their parents but like don’t light things on fire. That was kind of my lane. So Theo Huxable like absolute role model. Were you a co we how like into Cosby show were you like 20%. Like it used to be like on TV and I would watch it but I didn’t I didn’t like I wasn’t actively a fan and I didn’t really like go through the Cosby show. He seemed like the like I was going to say everybody on that show seemed like the best. Yeah. That’s a No, I think that was a very bad take. Very bad. One of them. Uh, no, no, no. Uh, Sean, were was that just way before your time? Yeah, I have no experience with the Cosby Show. Sean, unbelievable. Question. What was on Nick at Night when you were growing up? Oh, um, Full House was the big one. Full House and Fresh Prince. Um, and George Lopez show, I would say, were the were the the three big ones. Crazy. But like by the time I got to like the like high school, they started putting Friends on it, but I have kind of always hated Friends. Um, but yeah, I feel like there’s probably some other ones, but those are like the big three. Like Full House and Fresh Prince were like an every night experience for me. DJ, was Nick and Night when you were growing up? It was I Love Lucy. Yep. Same. It was Taxi. Did you have I love Lucy? No. No. I forgot about The Nanny. Nanny. Love that show. No, that was that was in prime time when I was growing up. Oh, yeah. So, like when I was growing up, it was if you were watching like family shows, you were watching Home Improvement or you were watching the Cosby Show. Home Improvement was another one when I was a little younger. Yeah. Was that on Nick? Yeah. At one point. Yeah. I mean, great program. Great program. I My my household was a big uh Hor Nolos Dose on the uh big home improvement versus Cosby Show uh debate that was never happening that I just made up right now. But I feel like those were like the two kind of parents can watch with their kids and have a laugh show. And yeah, I yeah, I had I Love Lucy. I had uh I had Gilligans Island. Golden Girls. Gilligans Island eventually. Brady Bunch eventually. Taxi was happen Oh, Mary Tyler Moore was happening. I think I had that. Lots of uh Mary Tyler Moore. But I think really like the one that we looked forward to was I Love Lucy. And then like when I was in college or something and then Friends started coming on Nick at Night, I was like, damn, this is Friends being on Nick and Night was a real like was a real tough hit because like Friends was so like the show and like when I was growing up, Nick at Night was the old people’s shows. Like that’s exactly what that was. which was like the adults who stayed up late and their favorite shows were on there and I was like, “Oh, that’s like the gross adults. They watch Nick at Night.” So, all these like black and white shows and then in college all of a sudden it’s Friends on there and I was like, “Okay, I’m the gross adult now.” Oh, you know what? I googled uh ‘9s Nick at Night lineup and I left off Happy Days. Lots of Happy Days and I had no problem with that. Happy Days, great program. Really confused me. I did not understand uh in the moment that it was not set or that it was not shot in the 50s. It was a show in like the 80s about a family in the 50s. So I was for years and years and years like maybe even it still happens now. I’ll see Ron Howard and I’m like he looks [ __ ] incredible for being 98 years old. 302 years old. He looks amaz Why is nobody talking about? And everyone’s like, “Oh, he’s always wearing that stupid hat.” And I’m like, “Yeah, it’s cuz he’s probably like so bald that his head is like going underneath his brain at this point.” Can’t believe he’s narrating uh narrating um shoot, Arrested Development. Arrested Development at 110 years old. Yeah, Nick and Knight is now anchored by uh Friends, Modern Family, and Big Bang Theory. Oh my god. Even that makes me feel old cuz I grew up watching Big Bang Theory in Modern Family. That’s crazy. You see uh you see Julie Bowen’s in the news. Yeah. Why is she just because of Heavy Gilmore? Yeah, I was going to say I’ve seen her pop up a bunch recently. She was in Gilmore. Yeah. Oh, legend. Just a legends legend. I saw a video the other day of somebody who had to name uh Pokemon or celebrities and he could name all the Pokemon and he couldn’t name any of the celebrities and all of the celebrities were the cast of Modern Family. It was very very funny. That’s crazy. Did not know who Ty Burell was. Didn’t know Sarah Highland. Didn’t know uh didn’t know Julie Bowen. Then at the last one the last celebrity they showed was Joe Flacco and he was like Joe Flacco. What a game. Yeah. Okay. Uh, let’s do it. Let’s talk some football, Sean. Training camp underway. Yeah. You excited about it? I am because the Bills are on hard enough this year. Oh, are they? Uh, yeah. Which is I guess they’ve run out of I guess they’ve they’ve started to realize that people aren’t that interested in watching shitty teams. So, they wanted to see a good team prepare for the season. Wait, so how did how did they get how did they get the Bills? Because I know they instated like these rules teams had to qualify. Did they just tell the Bills you’re doing this or did the Bills von? I think they told the Bills they’re doing it. Last season at Highark, boys released the the red helmets from my childhood. Was very awesome to see. It is currently my uh my my wallpaper on my phone is the forever handsome Josh Allen as you can see. Um very excited about that. But otherwise, it’s very weird because there used to be a time where I really cared about training camp. I don’t give a [ __ ] now. Just start the season. to make a show topic today like one change we would make about uniforms because in week 18 famously the Bills have recently announced they are wearing the red helmets which is just amazing last game at the Ralph I need them to bring out like the red end zones and the helmet center like 50 yard line logo really bring me back to like the early 2000s I’ll say though like my least favorite day of the sports year might be first day of NFL training camp where social media is an exceptionally not fun time. Everybody doing the like I guess it’s good that nowadays you can keep up with like who’s having a good training camp, but the the thing of one reporter is tweeting the uh passing stats for the quarterback in training camp. Therefore, I shouldn’t be left behind. I should do the same. Is like, oh my [ __ ] god. Like I got to see Josh Dob’s passing stats. I was going to say or it’s like a 20-year-old who’s never passed in the NFL in his entire life and he’s Oh, he had a a tough first day of training camp. That means insert rookie quarterback is going to suck for the rest of his career. Yeah, I have no I will say I wish that that existed when Zack Robinson was with the Patriots in training camp. That was that is the worst respectfully the worst athlete I’ve ever seen or like covered was Zack Robinson trying to be an NFL quarterback was astonishing throwing passes to I think I think like Aaron Hernandez and just like the best pass catchers ever and just not even close. I uh I accidentally caught like 14 seconds of Felgar and Maz the other day and it was uh I turned on the car. I heard a caller who was like out of like the five Patriots quarterbacks I think that Drake May is the worst and they should have kept Joel Milton and I just was like I can’t do this. Turned it off immediately. Day one of training camp just being like Drake May is the Patriots fifth best quarterback. get this guy out of here is amazing. Here’s the thing, Pete. Like Sean knows this. He’s a Bills fan. You might even have a quarterback, which like I think the Patriots definitely do. I’m a big Drake May guy. You might even have a quarterback, but until you’re positive, you’ve got like capital T, capital G, the guy. Everything’s on the table. The backup’s better. The guy they traded for a seventh round pick is better. Joe Milton, who is that the affforementioned player, is better. I I’ll just say like I think it’s crazy and I’ve had a lot of disagreements with Patriots fans over the years. I think it is crazy that Patriots fans aren’t psyched about Drake May when they were so psyched about M. Jones at this point. I was doing TV the other day and they asked um the topic was uh will Drake May be a top 10 quarterback this year and I said no. You guys asked me this question about M. Jones in 2022 and I now do a hockey podcast because you guys asked me that question. I mean, I know that I know that you you fought this war in the trenches so hard and like really like you earned the name Brave Dave in this these trying times. But like the fact that nobody could see that M. Jones [ __ ] sucked. The fact that the fact that nobody can understand that Alabama never produces NFL quality quarterbacks, they don’t do it. The one former Alabama quarterback that’s in the NFL that’s good right now graduated from [ __ ] Oklahoma. Tua sucks and can’t stay healthy. And every other quarterback they’ve produced sucks at football. They’re basically Notre Dame. It’s one of my biggest like gripes about college football and quarterbacks is like Alabama, they’re a great college football program. They do not produce NFL quarterbacks. We need to put out like 13 clips from today’s show and it’s all just like college football sucks. Oh my. If What Chaos put out a DJ on Mac Jones he sucks clip, that would be the best for anybody who has put up with either of our stuff over the years. It would be uh amazing. I’ll just say last thing on football, which was was really the only thing I wanted to say on football is the quarterback situation in the NFL right now is [ __ ] hilarious. You got the Giants naming Russell Wilson their starting quarterback. You’ve got Daniel Jones holding the edge on uh Trent Richardson, right? Not Trent Richardson. I was going to say that would be that would be Yeah. I mean, the Colts traded a first round pick for Trent Richardson. Maybe they would try maybe they would put him in a quarterback competition. Do you remember when uh I forget where we were coming back from, but it was inspired by Time Crisis and Ezra’s uh foray into football. On the road back from I want to say it was New York City. It was New York. Yeah. Uh when we went to interview the Blackhawks, we played the game in the car on the way back. Can you name all 32 NFL starting quarterbacks at that that moment in time? That was a very fun game. Yeah, that’s a good one. I mean, right now would be Yeah, that’s like I was going to suggest like maybe we do it now. Now we got some offseason time to fill, but like that that’s horrifying. I I I think I would do so bad right now. I think I would do worse than expect. I mean, I can name all 32. We can do it if we want. I mean, we we do have to hit the um the ceremonial or the customary prehockey talk ad read in a minute. But Sean Sean’s very confident that he can rifle off all 32. Let him let him go. Let me let him off the leash. Let me pull off the team. Let me just look at my computer and press up the team. Let me just type something into Google real quick. It’s not I’m not cheating. Just let me type this in. I’ve just got a list of of all 32 NFL teams. So, I didn’t have to think of them. Okay. Bills are Josh Allen. Dolphins are Tua. Uh Patriots are uh the guy we were just talking about Joe Milton. Yeah. Yeah. Uh Jets are I believe Justin Fields, maybe Tyrod Taylor. I’m not No, I think it’s Justin Fields. I’m pretty sure it’s Justin Fields. Uh Ravens are obviously Lamar. Bengals are Joe Burrow. Uh oh, I don’t know the Browns yet technically. Um could be anyone from I mean I think Deshun Watson Deshawn Watson who Deshawn Watson is mentoring. Deshawn Watson’s not healthy. Yeah. Um it’s it’s either it’s it’s not um he’s mentoring somebody. It’s not Sanders. No, I don’t I don’t I don’t think they’ve named their starter yet, so that’s why I don’t know. But they have Dylan Gabriel Shador and Joe Flacco still on that team. Be cool if he was. I think Joe Flacco signed somewhere else. Moving past the Browns. Um Joe Flacco’s on the Browns. Okay. Yeah, that’s what I thought. Uh I’ll give you the Browns. Um the Steelers, Aaron Rogers, the guy Aaron Rogers, former uh vice presidential candidate. Um, obviously CJ Strad in Houston, Anthony Richardson or um or Danny Dimes in looking like it’s Danny Dimes. Um, Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville or Mac Jones. Or Mac. Jones. Um, Cam Ward in Tennessee. Bo Nick Knicks, I almost call him Bo Nixon. Um, in Denver, Mahomes in Kansas City. Um, ooh, Raiders. Who’s the rated start running starting quarterback? Oh. Oh, it’s Gino. Gino. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, the Chargers is obviously Jay Herbo. My goat will forever be underrated. [ __ ] yeah, Sean. How would we not talk about that? Love him. Um, Cowboys are is still somehow Dak Prescott. Uh, Giants, Russ. Eagles is Jaylen Herz. Uh, the pride of Arizona State University. Uh um Jaden Daniels in Washington 20 Caleb Wilson or Caleb Williams, Jared Goff, um Jordan Love, JJ McCarthy in Yeah. Is JJ Sarton? I guess we don’t know that that yet, do we? Let’s hope. Oh, for their sake, right? Wait, JJ or Sam Darnold? Oh, no. He’s Sam. Sam’s in Seattle, right? Seattle. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think it’s got to be JJ right now. Okay. Not sure. Um, uh, PennX in Atlanta. Um, Bryce in, um, Carolina. Sha, however the [ __ ] you say his name, the rookie in New Orleans, Baker in, um, Tampa, Kyler in Arizona, Stafford in LA, somehow still Brock [ __ ] Pury in San Francisco. I mean, not only not only still somehow now like making 3040 million dollars. He signed that extension this year. Give me the last one. Sam Darnold in Seattle. Sam Darnold in Seattle. Uh, tough times for Kirk Cousins, huh? Yeah. I just get in a bag to do [ __ ] all. Pretty good times in other ways. Uh, okay. Sorry to sorry to Brock Py. He’s making $53 million annually. Jesus crazy. Great job. I wish nothing but the worst for the 49ers. Thank you. Thank you, Sean. We knew that you could do it. Uh, and we know that if you want to be like me, you got to get on prize picks. 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Cappo Kako signed a three-year extension as an RFA with uh the Seattle Kraken. And that’s important to me because I read all of that. I formulated it and I thought Seattle Kraken bridge Capo Kako is the least interesting sentence in hockey history. And it’s not the Kraken’s fault. And it’s not Capo Kako’s fault. It’s kind of the Kraken’s fault. just it might be, but it just it was a sledgehammer onto this silly head of mine that said the Kraken have a an interesting problem and we’ve kind of known about it. And whenever we see anything from the Kraken or whenever we bring up the Kraken, with the exception of a great fun Joey Decord video, it’s usually ah, this isn’t going great so far. So, let’s check in on where they are and let’s try to make the Seattle Kraken just a little interesting because it’s been a tough go so far, Pete. No, no, it it definitely has. I mean, they had their inaugural season which had a lot of interest. Obviously, they weren’t a very good team, finished eighth in the Pacific, but then they had their their second year and that’s the year they made the playoffs and they beat the Avalanche in the first round and you were like, “Oh [ __ ] Okay, here they’ve arrived on the scene and they had like they sort of had that like golden knights to them where they were like, “Oh, here we go. Expansion team good in their second year. This is like a cheat code.” They have not been interesting since. And when I say they have not been interesting, they have been deeply uninteresting and not very watchable since. over the last two seasons if we were putting together watchability rankings just like very very close to the bottom of the league. Okay. Some of the stuff you hit there and specifically that 2023 uh 2022 2023 season uh will be a big part of this conversation because that seems like it was an outlier that has forced the team to kind of chase something that we’re pretty sure actually wasn’t ever there. But let me give you a little rundown. So, they’re obviously like new team. They’ve had four seasons. Strong fan base. I’ll get to that in a second. A great personality player in Joey Decord, but they seem just kind of stuck in the middle. They’re on their third coach in three years with Lane Lambert. are in a super difficult division that only has I would say in addition to the teams that are just like locked in and we know the teams they’re chasing at least two teams in Anaheim and San Jose that are clearly on the ascent. One clear positive they got a good broadcast definitely. And also Booby is cute. Their broadcast is is like one of the top five best broadcasts in in the NHL. Borsland and Eddie O is like that is a supreme that is money well spent. Let’s hit though the experiment so far. Seattle entering its fifth season. I’m going to throw some stuff at you that you already know but when you hear it I think will blow your mind. Uh through four years they’ve made the playoffs once a wild card spot and won one playoff series. In the Golden Knights first four years, they made the playoffs every year and won six playoff series. Further to that, the Krakens second best finish point-wise, 81 in 2023 24 would be the worst season in the Golden Knights 8-year history. So, not not only are they not close to the success the Golden Knights have had, like their best is very very close to the Golden Knights’ worst. So, like just two opposite results on the expansion front. In the sake of fairness for this discussion though, it is worth pointing out that a lot of the mistakes that were made in the expansion draft that happened when the Golden Knights did it and they took advantage of a lot of other teams, those teams were killed for years based off of how they handled that expansion draft. And I think that they were very very careful not to make the same mistakes again. And so they weren’t weren’t very um aggressive when it came to the expansion draft with the Seattle Kraken. So they kind of just had to follow um like the the sort of paint by numbers route in that expansion draft. Yeah. To totally and teams I think realized from like one of the biggest things from that expansion draft Vegas versus Seattle is that teams were so worried of losing the guy they didn’t want to lose that gave up better Knights [ __ ] and in a lot of cases it ended up being amazing. I mean, the big one I can’t off the top of my head, the Panthers paid the they paid the Golden Knights Riley Smith to take Jonathan Marshaso. Yeah. Basically, they were like, do not I forget who they didn’t want them to take. Yeah. This is but they said like here’s here’s Riley Smith and Jonathan Marsho instead of this one player that that they were trying to protect. Yeah. And the Golden Knights just took all of those deals, which they should have because they were swinging over the fences and everything really connected. Obviously, you’re right. Teams were a bit more um experienced with a modern expansion draft, so they knew to do better. So, it was a tougher start for them. But let’s discuss the one-year outlier. Kraken victims of a 2022 23 season in which they had 100 points in the regular season. Got the first wild card, beat the Avalanche in seven games, beat the or took the Stars to seven games and that was a really exciting time for the Kraken. And the story of that season is basically they just scored a lot. They were not a great team, but they scored a lot. And I didn’t even care that they weren’t a great team. I was excited about the Kraken and Jared McCann had a 40 goal season. A lot of guys were scoring more goals. A lot of guys were overperforming. And from there, they missed the playoffs the next year, fire their coach, spend a lot of money in free agency, seven-year deals to Montour, Brandon Montour, and Chandler Stevenson. So, like they’re trying, they’re spending, they’re trying. Part of that obviously was uh changing the coach and bringing in uh Dan Bilesma who brought in a whole new coaching staff and Jessica Campbell was part of that and that was kind of the most exciting the Kraken have been in a while and they’re just not they that season was an outlier. Like they were trying to build off of a thing that was kind of a fluke. Yeah. I mean, let me ask you this question. Have the have the Seattle Kraken ever had a star player? That’s another big pillar part of this. I’ll jump to it now. Like, is it as simple as they need a superstar? Because I’m a big my favorite metric is guys. And the Kraken do have a good roster and they have guys, and they are trying. They signed those two guys last year. They traded for Mason Marchmond, which I thought was a stealth nice little move. They have good players. Jared McCann, Mattie Beneers, Shane Wright had a breakout year. Uh Brandon Montour is a good player. Chandler Stevenson is in the NHL. Adam Larson is a good player. Jamie Alexiaak, Vince Dunn, like not amazing players. Uh, they signed Ryan Lingren, who I think is just like a quintessential Seattle Kraken type of player where like, yeah, I think he’s good, but my friends don’t really care about him sort of thing. They they don’t have bad players, man, but they don’t have a super interesting roster. No, I I mean, so they they have like they have a lot of like middle of the roster players, but they have no top of the roster players. Like Matty Beneers needs to be a star for them. He has been their number one center basically since he entered the league and like he had that great rookie year and has not really popped since. They don’t have any other players on their team that I would classify as top of the roster players. Like what about Shane Wright? Not yet. Yeah. Oh, definitely not yet. But like Shane Wright can get there. Jake O’Brien can get there. They drafted Berkeley Kton eighth overall last year. So like maybe they do have guys who will be stars, but I agree with you. They don’t have any superstars and they probably like I would would you say like Jared Yeah. Jared McCann like starish. Mattie Baneer’s starish. Star potential, but like I you can’t even really say starish because when has he showed it outside of his his rookie year really like he has really not been a like a headline grabber or a real like I it just I don’t think that they have star players. I hope that Matt can be Joey Dord is like a top half of the league goalie, but does that does that constitute as a star player? No, probably not. So, is it as simple as they need a superstar? Like I I definitely think that would help. And they’ve got they’ve got cap space. They’ve got uh $6.6 million in cap space. They’ve got two first round picks each of the next two years. I mentioned Jake O’Brien. I mentioned Berkeley Katton. They’ve got stud prospects. If there were to be a trade in this there will be trades off season where there have not been trades. If somebody did become available, this would be the team. And I mean like I said like they pounced on Mason Marchman and they extended themselves big time in free agency last year. like they are trying but not smartly. So like I I think that we we did our our free agency show last year and we’ve had the agreement like the Chandler Stevenson and Brandon Montour contracts were kind of weird on day one. Like Montour I got I like Montour Chandler Stevenson was a real overpay. So, like just because they’re spending money and throwing it at guys who aren’t like the right guys, like Yeah. I guess like you can give them credit for trying, but it’s also like that’s a layer of an attitude. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, they’re not doing a good job. Yeah. Right. But they’re trying. I’ll also say I did a little uh journalistic stuff today. I went undercover as a prospective season ticket buyer and uh I didn’t see any weight list. They did have a wait list when like whenever there’s an expansion franchise there’s like a wait list and everyone’s all jazzed. I was clicking around and I was like I think they’d give me season tickets right now. I I think I remember hearing that although they do sell well they like their attendance is great. Yeah. But I I do remember hearing not last season, the season before, like the season that we started this show. I remember hearing that they felt a real pressure to turn things around and ice a competitive hockey team because fans were starting to lose interest in in like the shiny new toy that was uh gaining a little bit of luster. And like that that probably helps explain why they threw some of that money at Chandler Stevenson and Brandon Montour in free agency, but I I think that that that toy is is gaining quite a bit of rust and they’re at risk of losing some fans that they’re not going to get back for a little while. So, what do they do? I mean, do you know that no one has signed a max? There’s only been one max contract in the NHL. You know who it was? Uh, no. Brad Richards. with the Rangers and the Rangers bought it out. And we just kind of take for we take it as a given that players aren’t going to take the Max because there’s a cap and they want to save space for the rest of the team or whatever. But if, god forbid, one of these if if Eel or McDavid hits free agency next year, are they just This team has been trying. You haven’t said the magic words yet either. Yeah, no state income tax. Oh, duh. Yes. I was going to do a I was was going to make a section that was comparing them to other uh no state income tax teams, but we’re being harsh enough on them. We’re not being harsh on them, I’ll say. We’re just kind of explaining the state of affairs. And like I this is bringing me no joy. I’m I’m finding the Kraken quite interesting as we discuss like how can how can they get good? They just have such an uphill climb, man. Like they’re they’re not touching the Knights. They’re not touching the Oilers. Say what you want about the Kings. Like typically teams that were kind of locks for the playoffs, at least one will fall out the next year. But do you think that they could push for a playoff spot this year? The Kraken? I would be very surprised. They’d be a big surprise team in that conference and that division. Like this team finished below the Anaheim Ducks last year. Yeah. And the Ducks are going to be better. The Ducks are absolutely gonna be better. Sharks are going to be better, but I mean they’re going to trade Celibbrini at the deadline because he’s over 18 and one day years old. Um but the they don’t have to worry about the Sharks right now. I’ll say like they’re better than the Sharks. Their roster is better than the Sharks. They’re going to be better than the Sharks, but like Anaheim’s going to be better. Calgary could be better. I’m not sure. Vancouver has been left for dead. And I don’t know how to feel about that. No. I mean, Vancouver is one of those teams that like we talked about it a little bit last year. Like almost everything that could have gone wrong for the Vancouver Conucks last year did go wrong. And like there was just they were just rattled by instability the entire season. Whether it was injuries, whether it was locker room fights, whether it was just just general organizational dysfunction. I I I think that like Vancouver could be a bounceback candidate this season, but not not Seattle. Not Seattle. Yeah. Okay. So, we’ve talked about the the the the exercise of in preseason ranking how interesting we find all 32 teams. Like Seattle is is maybe bottom five, maybe bottom three, just like so deeply uninteresting. and that they’re too new for it to be like that, which is maybe why this does kind of I don’t want to keep using the word interesting or interest, but like it does sort of peique my interest that a team this new has already seemingly lost its flavor for a lot of people. I mean, it like the proof is in the pudding. We don’t spend a lot of time talking about the team. We watch the team like when they’re on if they’re playing an interesting game. So, it’s not just like total ignorance. We saw them [ __ ] up the Edmonton Oilers. That’s right. That’s right. No, but like the hockey world does not talk about them. And I tweeted like, “We’ve got a new episode coming out. We’re going to discuss a team that no one really talks about a lot, but uh we’d like to make more interesting.” And someone responded right away. Like you’re talking about the Kraken. It shouldn’t be that obvious. I know. Yeah. Like I I think I think right now Aan said it before the show like the Kraken are the new New York Islanders which like that that might be fair but when we when we talked about the New York Islanders like when people were saying that about the Islanders the Islanders were a pretty good hockey team. Like they were they were making the playoffs. They had like a pretty good roster. It’s just they weren’t interesting to watch which I I disagreed with that points but like the point still stands. They were pretty good, but not interesting. The Seattle Kraken are not very good and not very interesting, which is a pretty devastating um uh category that not a lot of teams in the league fit into. I think there’s a lot in the in, you know, one hand interesting, there’s a lot in one hand good, and sometimes you combine the two, but there’s ve there’s very few teams that are bad and uninteresting, at least to like us who are this deep in the Yeah. Another thing I’ll say on them, I like them down the middle. They’re they’re like they are not bad down the middle. Shane Wright takes another step forward. Last year was kind of his first like real year in the NHL and he was good. Mattie Beneers, Shane Wright, Chandler Stevenson, and they got Freddy Gdro. Like I don’t hate him down the middle. And like Eberly is like half a guy still. And Kako can be better. There’s just a lot of in a in the way that the the Capitals became the fun Island of Misfit toys. Like the where’s that guy going to go? Everyone went to the Capitals last year and it all worked out. The Kraken are a lot of where’s that guy going to go and they go there and you forget about them. Yeah. So, I don’t know what the solution like. Do we put a fresh do we like spiff up the jerseys? Do they Oh, their jerseys are great. Like, we want to get them a new arena four years in or something. Widely regarded as having one of the coolest arenas in the NHL. I think their branding is awesome. Their jerseys are great. You got one right there. There they are. Both of those are so good. Like I like maybe I think their away jersey is awesome. Home jerseys good enough. Like it’s not the branding, man. It’s the fact that the what it represents is just not that entertaining. Yeah, man. They need like this team needs a prime Stamos badly. If they had like one prime Steven Stamos, I mean like I at this point I would even take give them old man Steven Stamos. Like the Predators are trying going to be trying to get rid of those guys real soon most likely. Just give them to Seattle. like at least that will make them slightly more interesting and then Nashville can go ahead and blow up whatever the [ __ ] they’re doing there and we can get on with our lives, but fix two problems at once. Just give just give the the the Kraken Nashville’s guys. Famously, I’m not a conspiracy theory person, but if you are in the camp of people that thinks that maybe the NHL gave the Islanders the first overall draft pick as a response to taking away their All-Star game, if the NHL is seriously worried about the Kraken kind of falling out of favor amongst their local market and not being that interesting, there may or may not be an all-time prospect at the top of next year’s draft. Yeah, but we all know he’s going he’s going McKenna is going to Pittsburgh because that is such a funny like somebody identified the deeply uninteresting team that DJ was talking about before he even gave one hint about it. If you asked any hockey fan who pays attention right now like what is the bleakest team in the league, I think that most of them answer Pittsburgh, right? Like I don’t think there is a close second to bleakest outlook in the NHL behind the Penguins. Okay. Would you rather Would you rather McKenna to Pittsburgh or Seattle? Uh good things happening. I’m I’m going to say Seattle. Yeah, West Coast hockey, baby. Always. Absolutely. I’m going to say Seattle just like I don’t like I I hate the idea of two separate franchises like phasing out their long-term superstars and then immediately getting them another one at number one in the draft because the Blackhawks did it with Bedard and now if it happens to Pittsburgh, it’s just that’s got conspiracy written all over it. And honestly, like this is going to be we’ll we’ll post all this as Kraken stuff, but like you brought up the Penguins. I don’t think we can post it as Kraken stuff. I think we have to disguise it as something else because nobody’s clicking on Kraken stuff. Yeah, right. Oilers. Uh, first time we’ve said Oilers today. Not bad. Just do most least interesting team in the league and then make it like Conor McDavid. Yeah. Get people real fired up or like are they the next Oilers? And it’s just it’s still a picture of Conor McDavid. Shane Wright ghosted into the background. Yeah. Yeah. Just like low opacity like ghost of Shane Wright. Um Pittsburgh should be punished for what they’ve done with Sydney Crosby. Not rewarded. Um well, I mean it depends. Like is what they’ve done with Sydney Crosby a not a a reflection of Sydney Crosby like in his wants and needs? Do should we punish Sydney Crosby? I I really This has got to be the year, right? This has got to be the year that like it it it transitions from let’s have the conversation to like, oh no, this conversation is happening because yeah, I mean, this guy is in in very very bottomless pits of despair. I mean, they traded for Carlson a couple years ago, so we had to pretend that they were trying to be a good team, but going into last season, it was just so clear they’re bad. They’re not going to be good. That’s what it is. We are now one year further into that and they’ve I mean, they lost Gensel during the previous season anyway, but like they just keep getting worse and they keep losing guys and it’s so apparent that they are rebuilding. So, yes. And also, Pete, guess what Jeff Merrick floated on his show a couple weeks ago? I don’t know. Hey, you know when everyone was all excited that Sydney Crosby took $8.7 million and oh, what a team guy and everything? Devotees of the show will remember the Crybaby Penguins fans who lost their minds when we and specifically someone across the internet from Pete said or maybe he’s making his contract more tradable so if he gets moved he doesn’t he can go to a good team that doesn’t have a lot of cap space. Jeff Merrick didn’t report that on his show, but he brought it up as a like uh huh, maybe that’s what was going on. People, there’s no way Cydney Crosby has blinders on. He’s considering everything. And I don’t I just don’t want the Crosby conversation to get to where the Bo Byum conversations have gotten and the Trevor Zegris conversations have gotten where it just becomes a like, hey, don’t forget this still has to happen eventually. Like let’s not do that with Sydney Crosby, right? Like like a Sydney Crosby trade should not be unexciting in the sense that like we all know it’s coming and it’s just like a relief that it’s finally happened. I like the any trade that involves Sydney Crosby should be like a wow, holy [ __ ] kind of trade. And I I just hope that we don’t continue continuously run this lap in circles until he finally decides that they’re not going anywhere and he’s had enough. Like just get him out of him. Boy, wouldn’t that save this off season if Sydney Crosby after all after we heard there’s going to be trades, there’s going to be free agents. There haven’t been trades. There haven’t been free agents. There’s going to be offer sheets. There haven’t been offer sheets. There hasn’t been any of this [ __ ] None of the guys that we thought were going to UFA went to UFA. None of the guys we thought were going to be offer sheetated as RFAS got offer sheetated. None of the big trades. What’s the biggest trade we got? Noah Dobson, JJ Purka. Great. Love you guys. That That’s not what we were [ __ ] talking about. That’s not what we were talking about. We were talking about big trades. Wouldn’t Couldn’t Sydney Crosby save hockey? Could he save this little game of ours by just getting traded? Yeah, but somebody somebody came out with the um like just mentioned was it was it Kevin Weekes? I think Kevin Weekes threw some like random stuff out there being like thinking Sydney thinking Sydney Crosby might get traded and like Sydney Crosby himself spoke to a Pittsburgh reporter and was like that guy’s [ __ ] clueless and absolutely not. So Sid, we say it because we love you. I know. We’re trying to help. Although, I’ll say I I said I want Gav McKenna in the west. I want Sydney Crosby in the East. Oh, yeah. That needs to I mean, Montreal would rule. Boston needs a center. Yeah. I offer you an unprotected first round draft pick from the Buffalo Sabres or Sydney Crosby. Guarantee that you get your guy next year and the Sabres get one of the greatest players of all time make playoffs finally. Speaking of first round draft picks, this is gonna be That would be so sad if the if the Savers traded their unprotected first round pick just so that they could make the playoffs with a like 40-year-old Sydney Crosby. Worth it. I don’t give a [ __ ] This is a side thing and we’ll come back to Crosby and the teams in the East because there’s a couple that I’d like to see him go to. But I was thinking about what’s the craziest what’s the craziest thing that could happen this season and I don’t know why this popped into my head but I mean there’s a very clear answer. I’ve I I I’ve said at some point the Panthers whom I love not a Panthers hater will have a year. They’ll have a year where they just got to rest and like we go to the cup final every year. We just gotta we got bad hips. We just gota lie down if you will a sbatical. I I I always bring up the Glastenbury comparison where they they do aow year where it’s you know what everyone walks on the grounds at the festival. We need to give the grounds a year off. No one walks on it. The Panthers I think if they really want to like become a dynasty. It sounds silly, but like they got to miss the playoffs one of these years. They just got to like sit it out and then just bam bam win the next two because they’ll probably do that. Or if they win this one, maybe take take next year off, whatever. I don’t think they’re ever going to miss the playoffs in this little three year thing they’ve got coming up. But what if that year, whether it’s, god forbid, injuries or whatever else, what if it’s this year and the Panthers miss the playoffs, one of, I believe, only two teams that has traded its unprotected 2026 first round pick and the Panthers give Gavin McKenna to the Chicago Blackhawks for Seth Jones. Oh yeah, that would be unbelievable stuff. I don’t know if I see it happening. Like I think the Panthers could take this year off and still make the playoffs. That’s the state of the Eastern Conference right now. But that would be truly that would be incredible. And nothing would be nothing would piss off every fan in the entire NHL outside of Chicago more than that. And you know what? I would probably the next day I’d make the argument the Panthers still won the trade. They won the cup. But damn. But I mean like the the true answer for like the craziest thing that could happen this season is a Conor McDavid trade. Like it’s not going to happen. But like why the [ __ ] hasn’t that guy signed yet? Where’s the extension? We’re like three weeks deep into the extension window. I thought it was going to happen on day one. Where we at? Dry Sidle took until September, right? It was early September he did his. Yeah. But here’s the thing. I think that Conor McDavid hates the possibility of being asked about it. So like if he’s trying to focus on hockey, I think Leon has more patience to be like, I I’m not talking about the contract stuff. I’m not talking about that. I think that that Connor would like snap midway through October. Like especially considering how things go with the Oilers during the regular season, any sort of down slope on the roller coaster, going to get questions about the contract situation and he’ll lose his mind. Yeah. So that just gives me confidence that he’s going to do it before training camp then. So, like maybe he’ll do it in August or as people have said I I think they said this about dryidle too where they’re like there’s not going to be a negotiation. It’s just going to be like when do you want to do it? How many years do you want and like what’s your number? And if he says like okay I’ll do it now. Uh, I want two times 16. Then I would be like, “Oh, yeah.” I honestly think that like his best course of action would probably be like three or four years. I think everyone says he’s going to do four years. I I I like three or four years. Pretty high AV, but like not obviously like not max contract. Like that sets him up so well and like would it scare you shitless if you were the Oilers, but like what are you going to do? And maybe that’s why we’re 3 weeks into the window and nothing’s happened yet. Maybe he’s set on that and they’re like, “Well, maybe we can convince him. Maybe let’s let’s keep talking about it.” And that just at this impass, but like maybe in September at some point he’s just like, “No, this is the deal I want and either I’m not going to negotiate during the season. You can either give it to me or we can have this conversation next summer.” And at that point, like, you got to [ __ ] give it to him. But yeah, because it goes from eight years to I mean, right now he goes from or once the new season starts, he goes from being able to sign an eight-year extension to a six-year extension. Yeah. Yeah. And that’s the thing, like that’s not a bargaining chip that Edmonton really holds. No, he can sign Oh, yeah. Cuz he would he wouldn’t be able to sign the seventh year unless he did it before the right the new year starts. So that’s something where like I’ve heard people say Oilers should go to Jake Walman and be like hey we’ll give you $7 million a year times eight years and like he has to [ __ ] take that because he’s like I get eight years and like we’ve seen the kind of ups and downs this thing has taken. So a lot of teams I feel are going to do that with their teams that are going into this star-studded free agency period next year. But in the case of the biggest one, Conor McDavid, the team being like, “We can give you eight years.” He’s like, “What do I want eight? What do I want to lock in my price for eight years for? I go year to year and just or I can Austin Matthews it, which I think Austin Matthewsing it is uh his way to go.” And I think it was Tyler Remchuk that brought this up though. He’s like the the one part about this conversation that’s so stupid is that people are like he should do a four-year deal because that puts pressure on the team to build a winner. Yeah, they really need pressure to build a winner. They have Conor McDavid and Leon Dryidle on their team. They’re thinking about maybe kicking this can kicking it down the road till like 5 years from now. That’s really when they’re going to pounce. I think they’re trying to build a winner and like do do you really want uh a situation in which Stan Bowman’s running your team and he feels like there’s a closing window and he has to act aggressively to put together a winner. That didn’t work out super well in his last job. So like applying more pressure is that’s a great point. Like it’s not it’s not conducive to good business I think in this situation. No, I mean it’s a better point by you that like you specifically have the last GM in the world that you want thinking, oh if not now, it’s now or never. Got to go trade for somebody. But whatever. I don’t know. Seth Jones is happy right now. Uh on the Sydney Crosby thing, Montreal, what about Tampa? It’s It’s not It’s not sexy. It’s not original six. I get it. But [ __ ] would rock. He goes from a super old ass team where just everybody got too old or all the good players left or the team had Kyle Dubis calling shots to another kind of old team. But he can hang with all those guys. They’re so much better. Yeah. But I I mean like I think that if it’s Sid, he’s going to like handpick his destination and like maybe he really likes the no state income tax. I doubt it. I I Seattle, baby. I really do think it’s probably like Montreal or Colorado. And I know that those are the two most thrown out there teams, but like it’s got to be those, right? Like or like what if what if he went to LA? I think it’s either one of those two teams or a team that is like going to win a Stanley Cup. I don’t feel like he’s gonna go somewhere. I don’t feel like he’s gonna go to Tampa. Do you think he would go to Florida? Can they afford him? I like who can they throw off? They are already I mean they still haven’t Let’s note I’m liking this hockey conversation we’re having. Let’s note uh Evan Rodriguez has not been traded yet. Which to me says like oh home maybe they’re just not going to [ __ ] trade Evan Rodriguez. Like I cuz there was a little bit of uh media reporting push back to hey I know that everyone sees their cap situation and says okay well Evan Rodriguez is the odd man out. Not necessarily. That’s such a Bill Zo thing. Can’t sign all the guys. I might be able to find a way to What the hell’s he going to do? He’s going to keep Evan Rodriguez and also get Sydney Crosby. These are the questions life asks us. It is a It’s a good question. Like how do they how do they get under? Like you look at their roster like four million over right now. Are they? Yeah, something like that. I think it’s like four 3.725. Yeah. Like how do you get under? Rodriguez is the clear one on paper that you say, “All right, they can dump that guy.” They’re still they’re still not under like less than a million dollars um over if they trade Evan Rodriguez, but I don’t know. But they also they also all of their contracts are unbelievable. I know that that’s how their team is so unbelievable. There isn’t even a give a team a draft pick to take this like fine contract situation. Like Anton Lindell 23 years old making $5 million a year for the next what five years. Amazing. Yeah, it’s absurd when you look at there. Damn Reinhardt’s deal was a sweetheart deal the moment he signed it. It’s crazy. with the exception of Sergey Babski who’s making $10 million a year which like still like given what he’s been for them and and like how he’s been the final piece at certain points. You look at their like Puckedia page that thing is a [ __ ] masterpiece. Oh yeah, it is a masterpiece. That team is so wellb built and so well structured. Don’t think we even mentioned this name during the Kraken conversation. Do we know why Sam Reinhardt ended up on the Florida Panthers to begin with? Devin Levi, the the business acumen of Seattle Kraken general manager Jason B. Oh yeah, that’s who’s running their team now. Just saying. So it should definitely get better for you Kraken fans. Not amazing. Oh, so the deal is Bob. Bob with $3 million retained. Oh my god. I just thought of the how straight up for Stew. How funny would it be if the Panthers traded Sergey Babski to the Edmonton Oilers and then they beat the Edmonton Oilers with Steuart Skinner. That would be the best. Oh god, I want nothing more. That would be the best. Like that might be the craziest thing that could happen this NHL season. I would feel so happy for Steuart Skinner. That would be so awesome. Definitely within the realm of possibility. Absolutely. Yes. I My money would be more than likely. Yeah. My money would be I mean to if it’s the rest of the roster the way it is right now and they don’t look tired, my money would be on Stew and the Panthers. That would be so funny. And I also feel like And the joke would be, you know, the the joke would be on idiots. It would be on the Oilers, but it would also be on idiots. We’re like, “Oh, you never win a Stanley Cup with that guy.” like they won’t. Yeah. Like but that’s like that’s like I I don’t want Stu to win with with the Panthers because then they’ll be like, “Well, he won with the the best team in the league, of course, and he goes Bob’s legacy at the same time.” But he would have but his numbers would be really good. Awesome. Yeah, they wouldn’t let him have that those stinker games because they would just have the puck the whole time. God. And then he went Kon Smith. H in Edmonton in after game six. H injected into my veins. And the Panthers wouldn’t let us talk to him. Yeah, that that would Bob for Stew solves problems. They get to and the Panthers get to keep Evan Rodriguez. It would also just be like you constantly kick somebody’s ass and then you just like give them your gun and then beat them with a knife. It’s like paying your little brother and you you constantly give your little brother the broken controller and you’re like, “I’ll take it this time.” And then you still kick his ass. Except if Bob is a gun, Stew is a gun, too. He’s just a gun with like no bullets. He’s a gun that was better than He’s a He’s a gun that’s jammed. Jam. He’s a gun He’s a gun that has been in two ds against this other gun and was better in one of them. His gun jams. As far as I’m it is two nothing Panthers. It is between Bob and Stew. It is 1-1 as far as I’m concerned and as far as the hockey gods are concerned. But that would be amazing. That is how the Panthers get out of cap jail. They trade Bob to the Oilers for Stew. Uh anywhere else you want in the East for Sydney Crosby? Boston. Um, no. 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And I don’t know, like, do I just You’ve got a Devil’s jersey over there. You wouldn’t [ __ ] notice if I did it. If I just took it and just tried to toss like Taylor Hall on there or something and just absolutely torched the thing. What’s that? I’d probably notice. Probably notice if like any of my jerseys just like was looking for them and I was like it’s [ __ ] gone. Oh, no way. I wouldn’t notice. You could easily steal a lot of things from me. Yeah, you I could steal like money from like large sums of money from your bank account and you’d be like I probably that was probably a subscription that I’m locked into. Yeah. Yes, definitely. So any listeners, if you know how to hack here’s an idea for you. Just DJ, not mine. Not mine. Wait. So So if I just took one of these jerseys like I’m looking at You have a I’ve got an idea for you. What? Use the New York Islanders one. The black one. I knew you’d say that. Yeah, it sucks. and it’s yours. Don’t take one of my jerseys. Point. You have a shitty jersey that you actually own. Seems like a leader in the clubhouse. [Music] Right behind you. Who’s on that uh Nashville Predators jersey? That is. So that is Philip Forsber. And that’s the thing like there are some that I could just like get a little seam ripper or stitch ripper thing, take the [ __ ] guy off. Horrible behavior. So disrespectful. So disrespectful. I don’t want to do that. But I don’t know. Like I I might start hitting some like Savers or Goodwill or something just to find any jersey because I do want to take some passes cuz like I I got duplicate Canadians jerseys. So I could also try it on that. Yeah. What the [ __ ] I got duplicate. I got I’m going to take one of Pete’s jerseys cuz he’s he’s got some some blank ones. You [ __ ] loaded up on doubles and One of the worst jerseys. Sorry for making you a gift. I wasn’t going to charge you for it. But you’re talking about practicing. Talking about practice. Call when you’re good, fella. Some Some people famously are practice players. They’re better in practice than they are in the main event. So, I was going to practice on your jerseys and then once it comes time to really shine and I don’t know, we do like a live stream of me making a jersey. I think everyone would really be into that. I mean, deadline stream in which you sew on a player’s jersey on his new jersey. You have the you have the first jersey like mere minutes after this person’s been traded. You have a Sydney Crosby. You got to save one of those Montreal Canadians jerseys. I mean, if we did, especially if we acted like there was pressure to do it quickly, that would be [ __ ] go go go go get them on pit crew. Jersey pit crew. That’d be so good. That would be awesome. So, I got duplicates. So, I do have the Islanders jersey. I could do Who was on that team? Was I mean, Boychuck was on that team. That’d be cool. Yeah. Um, uh, Nick famously with the Islanders. We don’t really care who’s on the team. I don’t really care who’s on that team. Oh, do like a Matt Martin. That’d be sick. I was going to say like Chad Johnson. No thanks. No. Yeah. I mean, I know you I know you love Chad Johnson, but nobody wants If I saw you with a Chad Johnson jersey, I’d be like, “Come on, brother. Get it together.” Chad Johnson was a is a really really nice man. We should I wonder what he’s up to. I bet he’s coaching or doing something. Nice. Nice man. Coaching like high school hockey. What’s that? He’s probably coaching like high school hockey. Let’s see. Chad Johnson hockey. No. Uh Sean, what were you gonna say? No, I was just saying that I also scoffed at the uh suggestion of Chad Johnson. Okay. Uh let’s talk movies because a lot of people want our thoughts on Edington and Happy Gilmore 2 coming up. Uh, Happy Gilmore 2 comes out Friday. We’re going to have an episode. Be subscribed to the YouTube. I’m actually excited about it now. And I’ll tell you what, I did not I I thought that I couldn’t be excited about it because it’s not in theaters. And that’s such a really weird boomer take, but I feel like if you’re going to put out Happy Gilmore 29 years later, put it in the theater. Like, let my dad go see that [ __ ] Yeah. I I it just feels very I don’t want to say like mailed in but it feels very loweffort and to wait all this time to do like a loweffort Adam Sandler Netflix movie and I’m going to reserve like all these things that I’m saying about this movie because obviously we haven’t seen it yet but from all previews and looks like it looks terrible not just in that it doesn’t look like a good movie. I don’t need it to be a good movie. I need it to be funny. But it looks terrible visually and it looks like it’s been put through like a 2025 Netflix movie air fryer and to get like that kind of video effect. And I hate that. Like there’s no reason that an Adam Sandler or there’s no reason that a Happy Gilmore movie should look like gritty. It should be bright, vibrant, and fun. Yeah, man. That [ __ ] looks so that whatever textured grainy thing it’s dim. It looks so [ __ ] bad. Do you know I found out this morning? You know who directed that movie? Bad Bunny. That’d be awesome. No. Uh do you know um Kyle from uh Workaholics? Oh yeah. Yeah. Bearded fella. Yeah. He directed Happy Gilmore 2. Damn. And I I like Workaholics. I don’t know. I It might be his directorial debut, which would be kind of wild, but uh yeah, he directed that movie. Uh no, he directed uh Game Overman, which Oh, that was the uh Workaholics uh movie. He directed Murder Mystery which was the Adam Sandler and uh Jennifer Aniston vehicle which was not very good. Don’t be and he has also directed Happy Gilmore too. Like this is my problem with Adam Sandler is that when Adam Sandler is in charge of a product he uh or project he only puts like people that he really really likes in charge rather than getting people who are good at the job. Yeah. I I I need Steven Bril directing that. You know who Steven Brill is? I don’t think so. He directed Lil Nikki. He directed uh he directed Hubie Halloween is the most important Halloween was awesome. That’s the most recent great thing Adam Sandler has kind of been in charge of, you know. Mhm. You don’t cut I cut Jam because that was he was that’s he was just he was just there hired for his services. Yeah. And he knocked that [ __ ] out because he’s amazing. Uh looking forward to seeing it though and I once upon a time was not looking forward. It seems that you’re not very excited. No, it it it just seems like it’s a cameo fest. It doesn’t look like there’s many funny jokes. At least not to the trailer. I’ll be so happy to be wrong and I’ll be so happy if it is a pleasant surprise. I have such low expectations for this movie. I could not be less interested in this movie. I’m interested, but I’m Did Happy Gilmore matter to you? No. Oh, I like Happy Gilmore. I appreciate it. Like Bob Barker scene [ __ ] rocks and shooter was like a a like a shooter parody account was like a huge Twitter staple, I feel like. So like I there is there’s like touch points there for me, but like I don’t really care about it that much. Yeah. I it doesn’t look good. The trailer like they’re Jo like they keep showing the trailer with the Jeopardy joke and it’s just like if that’s what you’re coming at me with like trying to give me your best effort to get me to watch this movie. I’m you’re not doing a good job. And like it’s one of those things where it’s like I I I I don’t really like when people complain about like Hollywood has no new ideas or like do we really need a sequel for this? I think like if it’s if it’s making money, strike it while the iron’s hot. My problem with like these with some of the sequels is when it happens 20 years after the fact and it feels like kind of mailed in and it bombs. Like the the Dumb and Dumber one, that movie was horrible and we did not need it like 20 years after the fact. If you if you’re going to let it go that long, just either don’t do it or nail it if you’re going to do it. And like this I fear that this is going to fall into the Dumb and Dumber sequel. And I I hate to say it, I don’t think I’m going to be able to get over how it looks. Yeah, I know. That’s like there’s no excuse. Why does it look like that? Who wants it to look like that? But you know that uh they’re selling the putter. Really? Odyssey is making a they they make a happy Gilmore putter that they made I want to say a thousand of them something like that sold out. It’s $500. I don’t know how much normal putters cost but it’s $500. It’s that’s more expensive than a normal putter. They’re going to be back in stock on July 25th, 2025. I know this from following Darren Rall on Twitter and like this is what Rall is up to these days. Uh, I would not spend $500 on a Happy Gilmore putter. Wouldn’t do it. I also probably would not. Uh, Edington. Let’s talk Edington. Saw that. It’s polarizing. I think it’s got like 70s on Rotten Tomatoes audience score and tomato meter. Uh, this is Ari’s followup, I believe, to Bow is afraid. I don’t think he did anything uh between that. So, it’s another Ari walking Phoenix 60s 60s 68 Tomato Meter uh 64 popcorn meter right where I want it. I love that [ __ ] I love that movie. I I loved I loved it. It’s definitely not perfect. Uh it is there’s a lot of things that you can poke holes in or have a lot of questions about, but if there if there comes a time where you are willing to kind of switch off your brain a little bit and enjoy and just enjoy the [ __ ] ride, this movie will rock your dick off. It is so fun. It’s crazy. It’s insane. Won’t give anything away. I’ll say that it’s just kind of moving and going fast and al almost not quite to an uncut gems effect, but just like things are always happening and you’re never bored and then it kind of ends with a whimper, but that’s fine, I suppose. Like it’s like a 10-minute whimper. Like it’s 5 to 10 minute whimper and it comes on the heels of like you already being so deeply rewarded that you don’t really care. Yes. Exactly. just like madness from beginning to end. Walken Phoenix, I think I [ __ ] love him. Can be awesome. I love him. And he’s unbelievable. This good. I also saw this movie. For the record. Oh, you did? I I was I famously I was the one that was very excited about this movie. I’ve been looking forward to this movie for like two months. I’m remembering this now. I apologize. I did see it. I don’t have as high marks for it as you guys do. Really? I Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. What’s your uh familiarity with Aryster? And uh like do you do you like his I’ve seen uh he did uh Hereditary. Correct. Correct. Hereditary Midsomar. Yeah, I’ve seen both of those. I’ve seen I haven’t seen Bose Afraid, but I’ve seen Midsomar and uh Hereditary. Did you like both those? They were fine. Yeah, they were they were good. Similar to this one. Like I think especially on a first watch Midsummer in particular, it was just like Jesus Christ, there’s so much going on right now. I I think you make a good point that you have to turn your brain off to enjoy this movie, which is not good for a movie that is so politically like uh charged. I just don’t think I think it was very entertaining and the acting was good. The there was no point made. I mean, it was a lazy movie. I’ve no So, I’ve heard that point made so many times. He He doesn’t have to make a point. There is no point that has to be made here. It is a movie that is about a point in time. And I think and I think that this movie does as good a job as anything that has been made that summarizes that point in time like those the last handful of years from the pandemic to today. I think that that movie will is right now and probably will hold up as the best depiction and the best uh sort of mirror held up to the past 5 years. And that in itself is a good enough like quote unquote like statement made while also having that be around a very good like very fun western story. So, with awesome performances, the acting I love the acting [ __ ] not a slight spoiler, but uh Wen getting slapped in the face twice. Oh, yeah. Did it for me. Um, but my response to that is a release this movie 15 years later then because I remember all of this like it was yesterday because it basically was yesterday. Like you’re not you’re not giving me anything in this. Like I recognized and still do recognize all the absurdity that has been the last few years and that was the pandemic. Like I understand. And secondly, like not to live out here, but the movie made it seem like everyone is equally crazy, which is objectively not the [ __ ] case. But I like that. I I like that. But that’s not it’s it’s inaccurate. It’s like not an accurate representation of what the time was. Everyone was slightly crazy, but let’s be [ __ ] honest. Some people were way crazier than other people. And also like uh again, slight spoiler, but like the bad guy is the only guy that gets any kind of like uh like you actually learn anything about like the one that they try to endear you to slightly. And endear might not be the right word, but the one that you like get a connection to is not a good person. And like you he’s the one that’s the character that gets rewarded in this movie. And I don’t like that. I think it seemed like he was trying to do a little bit of a uh uh both sides, all sides kind of thing. And I don’t think that’s that I don’t think that is an accurate representation of what went on in 2020 and the years that followed. I mean, but I I think that walking character is like an extra unlikable anti-hero. I don’t like I I don’t think that you’re pulling for him. Yeah. you’re like, you know, this guy sucks kind of from the rip, but I it is interesting that you bring up the how it represented the sides. I was going to say the complaining I’m seeing about people who probably haven’t seen the movie. Uh about, oh, do you have to be a lib to like it or do you have to be this to like it or whatever? Like I know that you’re not that mad about it, but people that are that mad about it, I’m like, yo, this kind of is how people were acting were acting, so cry about it. The other thing is in the first 10 minutes, they do paint the mask shaming thing in just a very matter-of-act light that I think is going to make a lot of people like it made me kind of feel. I was like, damn. Like I know like we were trying to save lives and everything but [ __ ] so many old confused people just got [ __ ] [ __ ] slapped man. Yeah but then there were younger not confused people who took advantage of that. All those people it was the worst. Um what I I also like one of the one of the biggest like questions that I’ve gotten about this movie is like is it worth going to see because I don’t like the pandemic stuff like makes me not want to see it. And I get that. And I think that like further to Sean’s first point, which is like release this 10 years from now and like maybe it won’t there won’t be as much resistance to it. I would still say I I have no interest in like watching a pandemic movie. Yeah, I agree. Like a COVID movie. This is not a COVID movie as much as it is just a movie that takes place during CO. Well, it was written before CO. Yeah. Yeah. I it’s co’s a part of it and like all like the political stuff is a part of it and yeah it’s just this this stuff is is built around the main story here which is to me like that part is like it doesn’t need to say anything politically. It’s just building what actually kind of happened politically and like in society around just like a fun story. Yeah. I just I just like have very little interest in like uh I guess part of it maybe was a little bit my fault because I was expecting to be challenged in this movie. It seemed like it was going to be like a really thoughtful like there was going to be some kind of interesting point and observation made. I think if you didn’t understand any of the points that were being made in this person, you’re a dumb person. Like all of the stuff that happened in this movie is very and I get that like I it may be in a particular situation where like particularly like the race stuff I will look at differently than a lot of people obviously. So like maybe there are more people that don’t understand all this stuff. Uh, but I wanted to say to the the the point that you were the question that you asked of like do you have to be a lib or whatever to enjoy it? Like by far in my opinion the two funniest moments in this movie were slanted towards a conservative crowd. Like yeah there’s one the dinner table was the one of the funniest scenes of the movie I have ever [ __ ] seen. That was like a true like yeah that it is kind of [ __ ] crazy. So, I was going to go with my uh lovely and she eventually when I was trying to talk her into it was like maybe this one you see by yourself and I was like word got you and cuz I was like I don’t know if it’s violent or whatever and she’s not into that sort of thing. I got back from the movie and she was like how was the movie? I immediately told her about the dinner table scene. Yeah, that’s that’s the same thing I did to somebody. The other one was uh when when the sheriffs were in the office watching Pedro Pascal’s uh political campaign and he’s like is this Jefferson? Like where’d he bust these guys in from? I was like that [ __ ] is so funny because as a liberal Democrat siding person generally speaking and also as a person of color like I see right through that [ __ ] all the time. And so the fact that they called that part out of it well I did find funny. Yeah, it’s I mean I’m about to marry like the world’s biggest lib in in Ellen and she like gofod at the uh the the dinner table scene like loud like the the theater burst out laughing and that’s like but you know like that is where cuz I saw one criticism of it is uh from Kenjack whom we love said he finds the liberals and conservatives are in their own bubbles thing is just kind of lazy. Like we know they are and like the jokes about that are just kind of whatever. They’re not that funny. In the case of that dinner table scene, they were not stretching like the the kids dialogue and the way the kids were speaking was that was kind of how people were talking. And I am saying this with the utmost respect I guess or or like deserved respect. This movie the more I think about it was for white girls. Like it was for people that like it was for that group of people who are like or not white girls but like that that young liberal crowd who like doesn’t understand that like the rest of the world is not viewing. So, like the scene in particular where the girl is explaining to the black cop about racism and it’s just like you like there needs like it’s for a group of people who need to be like who need to be shown who need to be tricked into thinking that they are going to see something that is on their side and in the process reveals to them their own absurdity. Like, so again, back to my point where like this movie is not for smart people. Like, it is not for people who like or at least the point that the movie is trying to make is not for smart. It’s not for people who understand this [ __ ] already, who like have been living in the real world and haven’t had their head buried in a bubble and get that like everything is absurd. So when you say it’s for them, you mean that the message that is being imparted is intended for this segment of certain young people who may be whatever gender or I don’t I I don’t think I don’t think that this movie intends to like educate people. I don’t think that I don’t know that it necessarily I I just think that this is a a period piece with a like a western theme and it’s a satire satirical western black comedy. That’s all it is and and it doesn’t need to be anything more than that. Like I think that some people wanted it to be more in like what it was trying to say and making a bigger point. I don’t think that the movie or AR had had the intentions of doing that and that that is not like the viewer projecting that onto the movie I think is is wrong. Yeah, Ari does Aster doesn’t really do profound. He does spectacular but he doesn’t do profound like the big I know that like Midsomar there’s a lot a lot of and he’s said that it’s a breakup film. You see that this means this means this or whatever, but like it’s all kind of obvious. Best gaslighting movie I’ve ever seen in my life. Yes, Bo is afraid. That is magnificent and spectacular and everything, but it’s a [ __ ] nightmare. Just like it’s a mess. And you come out of it like I saw that movie and I was like, it’s one of the craziest movies I’ve ever seen. And then I never thought about it again afterwards because it didn’t it didn’t make me think. It didn’t give me anything. It just stunned me and floored me and overwhelmed me. This this movie made me laugh. It did not really make me think. And I definitely agree with you, Pete, that I I don’t think that there is a political slant to this. I think that that people might be disappointed that there wasn’t more of one. That like if you’re going to make jokes about this sort of thing, at least kind of pick on the bad guys a little more. My counter to that would be like, but then you pick a bad guy and then you’re alienating like No, not even that. Like he he made the bad guys look pretty [ __ ] dumb. Yeah, he made he made both sides he made all sides all all like absurd things that have happened in the past 5 years, whether you are whatever political leaning you have, whe whatever like part of the country you live in, whatever. He made almost everything absurd that’s happened over the past five years, he just like depicted it in a fun way. And I that’s I liked that. And my response to that like and again this maybe this is me living out, but like I feel like to a certain point if you’re going to talk about like this is not Midsummer or hereditary. Those things are non notreal stories about stuff that don’t matter. Like this was a very real thing. Like you talk about George Floyd, you talk about co like to depict this as something where like all everybody was [ __ ] crazy, right? It’s like no, some people had a right to be [ __ ] crazy because people that looked like them were getting shot and killed by police officers or or like their old relatives were dying because people wouldn’t like I think that there certain point there is a little bit of responsibility to like not make it look like everyone is equally absurd because again not everyone is equally absurd. So that part and then also like the [ __ ] the globalist plane like at the you just kind of lost me at the end. I feel like there was an attempt to do a little bit too much and I was kind of crazy. I was just like what the [ __ ] I I thought I was following this movie and then all of a sudden I was just getting smacked across the face. Not that was not supposed to be a reference to someone actually getting smacked across the face but like there was just so much going on. I’m like okay. Uh but yeah I don’t I don’t know. I feel like, again, maybe I’m living out, but I feel like there was there was a a certain responsibility that wasn’t met when making a movie like this. But I I think that he he did make one of the sides look bad. He made both of the sides look stupid, but he made one of the sides look evil and murderous and horrible, whereas the other one, he was just like, “This white girl’s so [ __ ] dumb. So like, so I don’t think that he was saying like this white girl is so [ __ ] dumb equals this murderer is this, this, and this. Like I I think that one actually was depicted as being way worse. And I think he chose correctly in which side he made look worse. The Emma Stone of it all also drove me [ __ ] crazy. That story line just upset me. could have not had Emma Stone. Yeah, I didn’t I didn’t necessarily need I didn’t like the way that that storyline ends. I’m just like, okay. All right. Like the the the psychos are happy. I like I get cool. Yeah, I I agree that that story line just didn’t really need to be there. All right. So, uh what are you giving it like Pete? Like B+, A minus? I would say like yeah pretty it’s it’s like if I’m if I if I’m doing letter box I think I did it like a I think I had like a four and a half or something. So like four or four and a half not a big box boy but four and a half I would have given it like a three and a half four. All right. Not bad. I like I did enjoy the movie and the again the dinner table scene was like some of the hardest I think it was the hardest I’ve laughed in the theater since Avatar 2. Um and I’ve told the story before derogatorily. Yes. I was very high and found it absolutely insane that they were talking to whales about their desires to start families. Like the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. That that uh dinner table scene is exactly like how I’ve always felt with regards to to that word. It’s like if if you’re going to use it, you better make it [ __ ] count. that that was like a true that’s like it’s such a great depiction of like the two Americas and not necessarily how it’s it’s described in like a traditional sense I guess like black versus white but like real like left versus right like you both think like I know like everyone thinks you’re stupid like you both think that each other are stupid. Yeah. And that people lose that. I that’s oh god I loved that scene of that movie so much. All right, we’re going to find the time of the movie and we’re just going to give you a time stamp to just head into the film about 45 minutes late or whatever it may be and catch that. It’s also very long. It’s two and a half hours long. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to say when I saw this movie, I walked out of it and the security guard at the theater was walking past me at the same time. He’s like, he asked me how the movie was. I was like, “Ah, it’s crazy.” And he’s like, “Yeah, I’ve only caught like the last 15 minutes of it a couple of times.” And I’m like, “What?” I was like, “Oh, well, you’ve seen a lot, man. Yeah, you’ve missed a ton, but holy [ __ ] if there’s a part of that movie to see, I guess that’s it. Cuz you you had to have been very confused walking into that chaos. When I was going to see Midsomar in theaters for I think like the third time, uh guy was checking my ticket and he was like, “Buckle up, man. This movie’s crazy.” And I was like, “Oh, I’ve already seen it a couple times.” He was like, “What? How many times did you see those old people jump off that thing?” And so it’s just it’s like yeah, shout out Butterfly, man. Officer Butterfly. That that was like the most uh like oh damn moment of the movie, I would say to me. Officer uh Butter, they called him butterballs, but he was Butterfly was his actual name. The the native officer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God. H I’m still I don’t want to give too much away, but what came through with walking out of the gun store was just like such a [ __ ] Oh, you don’t have to give that away. That was in the trailer. It was in the trailer. Was it? Yeah. It’s like this is like a modern western right here with a machine gun movie. I was like I That was an unbelievable scene in the trailer. I need to know where this came from. Damn. Have you seen the mo the theater trailer for him yet? No. Because him I feel like is going to be very similar to this movie where it is not what you think you are walking into. It gets it goes to like a whole which is I mean that’s a it’s Jordan Peele movie so that’s not surprising but it is like uh you think you’re you think you’re in a for a certain kind of movie and it will at a certain point change and change quite fast is the vibe I’ve gotten from that. Damn. Well, we’ll have Gilmore 2 for you on Friday. That’s going to be really really really exciting. Make sure you are subscribed everywhere and also on Apple Podcasts wherever. Uh we’re trying to get our Instagram numbers up. We’re doing that by not posting on Instagram. We’re oldfashioned word of mouth. We’re uh That’s right. door to door. We’re taking to the streets. Tell a You know what? Send an old clip of the show to a friend. See if it’ll see if they’ll bite. We have a real grassroots movement with our Instagram account. Try it out. That should become a like a bit of ours that we’re growing the Instagram and we see how long we can go not posting on the Instagram while we grow the Instagram. see if we can get like a Charlie Sheen type thing. Remember when Charlie Sheen got on Twitter, didn’t tweet, but it was like Charlie Sheen has created an in a Twitter account and within a half hour he had like a million followers cuz everyone was like, “What the [ __ ] he going to do? Let’s try to do that.” Every uh every thousand followers, we’ll we’ll throw you a post just as a little reward, a nice little treat. I don’t hate this idea. Let’s We’re going to uh We’re gonna edge the algorithm. That’s right. Just gonna give you a little little something just to get get a little spike and then we cool it. We’re gooning on the gram, folks. We’re finally finally a hockey show that is on the gram. Finally, someone’s gooning on Instagram. Okay. Hey, we got a lot of stuff coming up, but uh Pete gets married end of next week. Very exciting. So, we’re going to have a taped episode coming your way next week and uh then uh touch and go throughout the offseason, but we’re still going to have stuff every week for you and it’s going to be a lot of fun. Uh this was a great episode. We actually just bullsh about hockey for a while, which was nice. Kraken of all teams. The Kraken was good, but then but then like after the Kraken thing, the Kraken was good concentrated discussion mostly. And then the Penguins stuff I thought really got the wheels rolling. It led to Gavin McKenna to the Blackhawks via Florida. Oh yes. I can’t believe we forgot about Ste Skinner winning a Stanley Cup with the Florida Panthers. Stew winning Con Smite with the Panthers. I’m feel like mainly excited that we got uh a year’s worth of Seattle Kraken talk out of the way in uh July. Pretty excited. We’re done though. I will say the last time the last time you there was a point made of not talking about the team, the team became one of the more fun teams in the league in the following season. Was thinking about that Minnesota Wild. Mhm. It’s true. Are they gonna do anything? There was a point made about not uh not addressing Bow and Byum and then he signed a contract like three days later. So, can we have a Sydney Crosby moratorium officially? No Sydney Crosby talk until they get traded to the ABS. I need it. No, because like I I feel like we kind of have to we have to take a a a central role in driving the bus in the Sydney prize. Like we were we’ve been talking about it for so long that it would be it would be dumb for us to hop off now when it’s about to get really hot. Yeah. Plus, we we we got to be there to take the lap on Penguins fans. Definitely. Damn. This gives me a good idea for next episode that you will hear on the next episode. I hope we’ll talk to you soon. We love you. Happy Gilmore 2 coming your way Friday review. It’s going to be great. Like, subscribe, do everything you can. [Music]

After Kaapo Kakko signed an extension with the Seattle Kraken, we take an in-depth look at the franchise as it heads into its fifth season and discuss Seattle chasing the magic from its 100-point 2022-23 season and if they can return to relevance. Plus, we name all 32 NFL quarterbacks and review Ari Aster’s “Eddington,” because it’s the Summer.

0:00 Welcome to What Chaos!
12:15 NFL Training camp talk
27:26 The Kraken Experiment
49:30 Crosby & the Penguins
1:16:55 Happy Gilmore 2 & Eddington

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