How does Mikolas still have a spot in the rotation?
July 24, 2025
How does Mikolas still have a spot in the rotation?
25 comments
$17,666,667.00
There are 18,000,000 reasons why. That’s basically the only thing at this point.
He has dirt on the front office
None of this is rocket science. He got a fat contract so he WILL play
I’d be fine letting Matz get some starts but I’m not sure who we would put in there otherwise, gracceffo probably? Better than mikolas but I’m fine letting him do his thing and building up to it more for next year.
Now do Pallante. Our rotation absolutely blows. Mozeliak is a baseball terrorist.
Because John mozeliak still runs the team
Sunk cost fallacy…
It’s not about the money, it’s about Mo’s (and Dewitt’s) ego.
Who else is gonna pitch? Matthews is not ready, Matz should be traded, hence, roby are hurt, rajcic, and robberse haven’t been particularly effective but you might could argue it doesn’t matter who’s there. You trade maton, Matz, Helsley someone will have to be in the pen, so graceffo and maybe one of the above. I think mikolas sticks just because the math ain’t working. Not saying it’s ideal.
Whose gonna take it? Lol I mean the options in AAA are utterly terrible
He esspensive.
Here are our pitchers that have at least 50 IP at AAA this season and an ERA under 4.00:
* Curtis Taylor (29-year-old swingman/MiLB journeyman)
* Michael McGreevy (now in MLB rotation)
Tekoah Roby is close-ish, I guess, but last I checked he wasn’t healthy, and they probably don’t want to start his clock just to soak innings [on a team with 0.7% World Series odds](https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds).
Now that we kicked Fedde to the curb, any injury moves Matz to the rotation. Matz has not stayed healthy as a starting pitcher since 2021. So, the next injury after that? 😬
Some of y’all have short memories and don’t remember what it was like to watch Drew Rom take eight starts in 2023. Miles Mikolas sucks and I can’t wait to never watch him pitch again, but he’s in the rotation because we don’t have lots of competent MLB-caliber starting pitching depth at the moment, and someone has to throw innings between now and the end of September.
Can’t let a top notch Missouri farmer leave the rotation
Honestly the numbers Id expect from a sp5. Problem is pallente fedde(rip) and liberatores graph would probably look similar.
Because we aren’t really trying to win this year, he will eat innings, and who else is going to do it?
There’s the 40-man, armchair GMs. Who are you going to replace Mikolas with?
It’s definitely because of his contract and the DeWitts are wanting him to play if they’re paying him that much. I also think if he was ever asked, Mo will spit out some stupid answer like it’s out of respect of him being the longest tenured Cardinal on the team or some crap like that
Someone’s gotta pitch the innings….and they are paying him 18 million….so a bit of sunk cost fallacy.
You could say DFA him, and I’d be all for it, but it might not look good on the FO to other players if they cut lose a veteran from the team unceremoniously after he’s had good production for you in the past.
“Have you seen his zone %? His zone % is really good. I put it in the computer and it says ‘world series, book it'” – O. Marmol.
Send this loser to Memphis, if he doesn’t waive his no-trade.
He needs to ride busses for a few months.
Mikolas wasn’t worth anything in trade value this past offseason, and he wouldn’t have waived his NTC anyway.
The real question is why didn’t we trade Fedde and Helsely last offseason? Helsely coming off obviously an amazing year, and Fedde was cheap and cost 1 Tommy Edman at the deadline last year. He had a 5.6 WAR season in 24, surely we could’ve gotten some value and just put Matz or McGreevey in his place.
Simple answer. The Cardinals simply don’t have a replacement that falls into the category of better or ready.
25 comments
$17,666,667.00
There are 18,000,000 reasons why. That’s basically the only thing at this point.
He has dirt on the front office
None of this is rocket science. He got a fat contract so he WILL play
I’d be fine letting Matz get some starts but I’m not sure who we would put in there otherwise, gracceffo probably? Better than mikolas but I’m fine letting him do his thing and building up to it more for next year.
Now do Pallante. Our rotation absolutely blows. Mozeliak is a baseball terrorist.
Because John mozeliak still runs the team
Sunk cost fallacy…
It’s not about the money, it’s about Mo’s (and Dewitt’s) ego.
Who else is gonna pitch? Matthews is not ready, Matz should be traded, hence, roby are hurt, rajcic, and robberse haven’t been particularly effective but you might could argue it doesn’t matter who’s there. You trade maton, Matz, Helsley someone will have to be in the pen, so graceffo and maybe one of the above. I think mikolas sticks just because the math ain’t working. Not saying it’s ideal.
Whose gonna take it? Lol I mean the options in AAA are utterly terrible
He esspensive.
Here are our pitchers that have at least 50 IP at AAA this season and an ERA under 4.00:
* Curtis Taylor (29-year-old swingman/MiLB journeyman)
* Michael McGreevy (now in MLB rotation)
Tekoah Roby is close-ish, I guess, but last I checked he wasn’t healthy, and they probably don’t want to start his clock just to soak innings [on a team with 0.7% World Series odds](https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds).
Now that we kicked Fedde to the curb, any injury moves Matz to the rotation. Matz has not stayed healthy as a starting pitcher since 2021. So, the next injury after that? 😬
Some of y’all have short memories and don’t remember what it was like to watch Drew Rom take eight starts in 2023. Miles Mikolas sucks and I can’t wait to never watch him pitch again, but he’s in the rotation because we don’t have lots of competent MLB-caliber starting pitching depth at the moment, and someone has to throw innings between now and the end of September.
Can’t let a top notch Missouri farmer leave the rotation
Honestly the numbers Id expect from a sp5. Problem is pallente fedde(rip) and liberatores graph would probably look similar.
Because we aren’t really trying to win this year, he will eat innings, and who else is going to do it?
https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/depth-charts/cardinals
There’s the 40-man, armchair GMs. Who are you going to replace Mikolas with?
It’s definitely because of his contract and the DeWitts are wanting him to play if they’re paying him that much. I also think if he was ever asked, Mo will spit out some stupid answer like it’s out of respect of him being the longest tenured Cardinal on the team or some crap like that
Someone’s gotta pitch the innings….and they are paying him 18 million….so a bit of sunk cost fallacy.
You could say DFA him, and I’d be all for it, but it might not look good on the FO to other players if they cut lose a veteran from the team unceremoniously after he’s had good production for you in the past.
“Have you seen his zone %? His zone % is really good. I put it in the computer and it says ‘world series, book it'” – O. Marmol.
Send this loser to Memphis, if he doesn’t waive his no-trade.
He needs to ride busses for a few months.
Mikolas wasn’t worth anything in trade value this past offseason, and he wouldn’t have waived his NTC anyway.
The real question is why didn’t we trade Fedde and Helsely last offseason? Helsely coming off obviously an amazing year, and Fedde was cheap and cost 1 Tommy Edman at the deadline last year. He had a 5.6 WAR season in 24, surely we could’ve gotten some value and just put Matz or McGreevey in his place.
Simple answer. The Cardinals simply don’t have a replacement that falls into the category of better or ready.
Their AAA is shit. That’s why