Why Aaron Rodgers season w/ Pittsburgh Steelers WON’T HURT his legacy | Colin Cowherd NFL
It is another bumpy day, J-Mack for Caleb Williams. So, we know in OTAAS, Ben Johnson got, you know, a little miffed. Couldn’t get the the play into the huddle. They’re asking him to do some different stuff sometimes under center. A lot of those coaches like that. Oh, yeah. Sean Payeyton likes that. So, are you ready for the new news, Jac? Lay it on me, big guy. Okay. So, yesterday, three days ago, he struggled. Ben Johnson was furious. Uh couldn’t get the play in and out. Um yesterday struggled with a deep ball. Today, Caleb Williams, two red zone picks. Uh one tip ball, another one horrible pass. So, three days in a row, it’s gotten a little bumpy for Caleb Williams. So, people say, I hear athletes say this. I hear people say that you can’t take a lot from camp. Uh, you can see red flags, positive, negative. Andrew Luck, Jaden Daniels, first week of camp, Commanders, Colts, you were hearing glowing reports. Disastrous first dates rarely become great 30-year marriages. I’ve interviewed lots of people in my life. Disastrous interviews never become great hire. It matters. Shawn Payeyton last year was texting me in August. He’s like Bo Knicks. It may take a few starts. Guy’s going to be good by October. Bo Nicks 103 passer rating. You can see good. You It can be one of those musical shows. It can be a athlete. It can be an interview. It could be a first date. You can see stuff. What do they say? Men decide in 8 seconds. Women decide in eight minutes if they want to spend any time with this person. So, Caleb Williams was sold as a generational talent. We were all hoping it would be this generation, right? Like how long do you want us to ask uh last and and wait. So remember this Ben Johnson Ben Johnson’s first year with Jared Goff. Let’s go back to that. Remember that that Lions team 2022 was not the roster it is now. The old line wasn’t quite set. Jared Goff first year with Ben Johnson. Now the Bears coach led the NFL 29 touchdowns, seven picks, seventh in passer ratings, sixth in passing yards. And again, that Lions team isn’t the one now. That’s three off seasons ago. The Lions team now, I don’t think is as good offensively as the Bears team right now with their personnel. So, and I I I feel this quarterbacks in 2025 are a little bit like streaming shows. Bro, if you’re not get me by the second episode early, I’m out. Used to be three years. Give Eli Manning three years. Those days are over. Private coaching, seven on seven camps. You can transfer in high school and college to a better place. Those days are over. He’s got to be good by late September and early October. And that streaming show, you know it and I know it. By the second episode, if you’re 8, 10 minutes in and you’re like, “The writing’s bad. It doesn’t work.” you’re on to another streaming show or another service. And so I I I think you gota you got to grab people early in this relationship. So Ben Johnson yesterday said it’s not as bad as it was reported, but today seven drills, red zone, two picks, not good. Here’s Ben Johnson. I know some people enjoyed me throwing the first team out of practice. Uh not the case. we got to end up uh executing, getting in and out of the huddle a certain way, and it wasn’t that way. And we’re learning, we’re growing. Um, you know, there were some things from the springtime expected to carry over that that was probably one we just don’t have any tolerance for anymore. We got we got too far to go. Yeah. I mean, we This is year two. Generational talent. Hopefully this one. OTAAS, three days at camp, every day at something else. I like him a lot, but the critics make good points. Hero ball, runs backwards. A lot of this NFL quarterback stuff is is work ethic and getting in and out of plays and not making big errors. You know, I I say this all the time about Mahomes. About three times a game, jaw-dropping, 27 drop backs, he’s just hitting the drag routes. So Caleb right now struggling with the layup stuff, the easy stuff. Don’t throw picks in the red zone. Dirt it. Throw it. You know what they say, red zone, you got to throw it low or out of the end zone, right? So today, two picks, not great. Andrew Barry is a very sharp general manager of the Cleveland Browns. I’ve said before, Kevin Stfansky and Andrew Barry have overcome a lot. I think they’re both top 25% of the league at their respective jobs. Andrew Smart. And instead of pandering, which the media constantly does with young athletes, Andrew Barry said what Shadur Sanders did getting two speeding tickets as a fifthround draft pick as a quarterback was dumb. Here he is. Not smart. Just not just not smart. It’s not just about, you know, driving a car really fast, but it’s about the fact that you can endanger other people. It’s about the fact that if a deer or someone, you know, cuts out in front of you, you like your reaction time, it’s just dangerous. Um, and it’s not something that we want our guys to be doing. It’s not something that they should be doing. Um, and the number one reason is because we don’t want some type of catastrophic accident. He’s a fifth round pick. They haven’t invested anything in him. They could show him the door tomorrow. He’s a quarterback. The standard’s higher. I heard a lot of this, Colin. It’s no big deal. I’ve had a speeding ticket. 34% of American men have been arrested. I’m going to hold my quarterback to a little higher standard than the general public. 74% of Americans are overweight. Should my proathlete, I mean, Bob down the street is, again, there are standards. I need smarter. I need more dedicated. I need more focus than young guys getting arrested and people overweight. That’s the average citizen. Fine. This is not an average position. Quarterbacks don’t get sick days. You wake up with a sinus infection, you’re out. They do. Grab your helmet. Let’s go. Let’s go. Get in the huddle. Hurry up. Two speeding tickets. Fifth round quarterback is dumb. You know, speeding ticket becomes not knowing the formation on Sunday. Like, it’s just not that difficult. Quarterbacks are supposed to put out fires, not start them. So Andrew Barry is speaking the truth out loud. This I I whenever I hear this, well, I’ve done this or I’ve done that. That’s not the standard I’m shooting for. Quarterback NFL franchise, there’s 32 starting jobs in the country. Like that that’s it. I mean, teams give you about a year and a half and then move off you. You have to make impressions. So, I I just appreciate a general manager going to a podium and not pandering. Just call it out. Not good enough. So, I’m reading an article this morning. Um, and the headline to the article, which I disagree with, is Aaron Rogers has a lot more to lose with the Steelers than he did with the Jets. And I I thought a lot about this and I I think my opinion that’s gonna stick is that did the Wizards hurt Michael Jordan’s legacy? Did Phoenix, Cleveland, Celtics hurt Shacks? It’s not about the ending. Uh Marlon Brando is considered the greatest actor of all time. YouTube him sometime. Fascinating interview. Um he had three or four atrocious movies. Nobody cares. We judge you in your prime. We judge you at the pinnacle. Not the turbulence and the bumpy ending. Not every Beatle song was great. And we don’t talk about the ones that missed. We’ve never spent a second talking about Tom Cruz in The Mummy. We don’t do that. Aaron’s prime was 13 years, four MVPs and a Super Bowl trophy, and he played great. It puts him top 12 all time. Certainly one of the prettiest passers I’ve ever seen up there with Dan Marino, maybe number one or number two. He’s a little prickly and independent as a personality. That’s okay. Everybody’s different. He is one of the most gifted throwers of the football of all time. Um, and he is in a top 12 of all time. Uh, I actually prefer him over Brett Favre. Brett Favre is a gunslinger. I don’t think he ages well over time. Gunslingers don’t work anymore. They become Jameus Winston. Um, and he’s better than Jameus Winston, but Aaron could have played 30 years ago, and Aaron in his prime was great now. Favre was really good being hard to coach, not necessarily reading coverages, and just using his talent. I don’t think that ages as well today. I think football is much smarter today than it was years ago. So, I I I think much like being in the mob, once you’re great, you’re a made man. Now, like the mob, it doesn’t always end well. Uh, but I I I think we have to be fair with Aaron Rogers. If he goes seven-9 in Pittsburgh, he gets hurt in week 13 or doesn’t play particularly well, nobody cares. Go look at Johnny Unidas’s last team. Go look at Michael Jordan and the Wizards, Akeem, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, it doesn’t matter. Now Brady, you know, and this is rare, left and was great in Tampa. That sort of adds to Brady’s legend. But the truth was it really only, if you really look at what Tampa did for Brady, it separated him in the was it Brady or Bellich in New England argument. Clearly it was more Brady than Bichc. He won the divorce. He won the argument, but he still would have been the all-time greatest quarterback because all of his hardware. So I I I don’t I mean Aaron had an interception yesterday. I don’t make anything of that. And I’m not going to make a lot out of six and 11 or seven and 10. Here’s Aaron. It’s good to get it out the way. I mean, anybody that’s watched me practice over the years, you know, you like to try certain throws at certain times. And um anybody that’s watched me in the games knows I’m I’ve been pretty stellar taking care of the football over the years. It’s going to be a good challenge for me uh throwing this heat every single day. I look forward to it. But I’m going to throw some picks. Uh but I’m going to throw some touchdowns, too. Yeah. I just I I don’t think if you look at actors, politicians were were like Bernie Sanders in his prime in Bernie Sanders today, you know, you get to be 75 as a politician. I I don’t know how judgmental I can get. Uh same with quarterbacks. Once you get into your 40s, I’m not holding it against you. I mean, I I that doesn’t mean Matt Stafford wins a Super Bowl this year. It can’t elevate his legacy. It doesn’t mean if Brady’s good in Tampa, it can’t mean he really definitively won the divorce with Bellich. Yes, there can be more upside, but but I I I it’s Marlon Brando, it’s the Beatles, it’s Tom Cruz in their prime best. So, uh you know, there’s been a story this week, J-Mack, and uh it is very much a connect the dot story. Jimmy Ston, Nick Sabin, Jimmy Hasslam, uh, and I have said I think Sabin will not go to college, but when Greg Mroy and Lane Keifin, who know him very, very, very well, uh, said there’s a lot of talk about him coming back to coaching, I don’t think it’s college. I discussed it this week. Colleges now, the NIL is so expensive, you have to go to your boosters to get 15 to$18 million to pay the players. You’re not going to buy out your coach at another 70 million and then pay 75 million to get saving. Like it just the the the NIL actually helps coaches get two or three more years. You’re raising so much money to pay the players. You’re not buying out staffs at $70 million too and then paying 70 million for the next coach. He’s not going to college. Would he take a call and consider the NFL? That’s all I’ve said. Yes. and and Sin was on Fox News and could have given an absolutely definitive answer. Instead, he said this. There is no opportunity that I know of right now that I would enhance me to go back to coaching right now. I mean, I’m not hungry right now. I’m not tired right now, but I’m going to eat and sleep later. Right? Yes and no are definitive answers. absolutely or never are definitive answers. The specivity uh with that answer was intentional. It it it was I mean if you kind of right now you ever getting divorced I mean right now I’m happy with my current wife. You know that that’s not the answer you want to hear. It’s never I’m wildly in love right now. It’s leaving the door open. And and by the way, I can bring up an old Nick Sabin press conference from Miami. I could do that. So why don’t we do that? Here it is. Well, then I guess I have to say it. I’m not going to be the Alabama coach. What? What? What? What? I shouldn’t even have to comment on this. I think I’ve said this over and over and over again. There’s also not one opening now. Arch Manning still a college player now. So, I’m just saying I thought it was very intentional. There’s not a place I’m going to leave for right now. And I don’t even think this is an argument like that. That’s very open. That’s very gray. And he may not take the job. I’m not saying definitively he’s going to. I’m saying if Cleveland ends up with a number one pick, if the Saints end up with a number one pick and take Arch Manning, he’s coached in Louisiana, he’s coached in Ohio, he’s taking the call. He may go to Miss Terry, discuss it for a couple of days, but I I know what he kind of makes at ESPN. He’s going to make about 30% more or more than that coaching college uh pro football. He’ll take the call. I don’t think he’s going to college. So I mean it yes, no, absolutely never. Those are definitive. I’m not tired right now means you will probably eventually sleep, right? Like we all this isn’t this isn’t a reach by me. I thought that was a very intentional uh answer and that’s okay that you know I mean broadcasters have a right to leave anytime they want. much easier to leave broadcasting jobs. Bill Parcels did that multiple times. Nobody’s going to hold it against you. I think Dick Vermile may have or may have not let nobody’s holding it against you. You know, you leave a college, you leave a job, but I’m just saying and there’s going to be jobs, not just random jobs open. Arch Manning going to a place Nick has coached. The Dallas Cowboys could be open. There are years. Last year there was one great job opening and Harbaugh took it. Justin Herbert, LA Market, decent roster. That was a great job opening. Matt Laflur to Green Bay. That was a that’s one of the best job openings ever. Aaron Rodgers well-run organization. By the way, when McCarthy took the Cowboys, Dak Prescott closer to his prime. That wasn’t a bad job opening. A lot of them are rebuilds. He’s not going to a total rebuild, but if he’s going to be watching all these college quarterbacks, okay, you tell me he watch that Clemson kid or he watches Arch Manning or he watches Drew Aller and all of a sudden the Saints or Cleveland can get those guys, he’s absolutely taking the call and he’s absolutely considering it. Yeah, Colin, this lines up perfectly with what you like to say. When you get new information, sometimes you change your mind, right? On athletes, on coaches and openings, I think is the same thing. Nick Sabin says he’s happy where he’s doing right now. And then if you know Arch Manning lines up to the Jets or or the uh Browns or the whatever happens, sure. I’m sure he’s going to take the call. Now, the real interesting one is what goes on in Dallas? Is that someone Jerry Jones would want to hire? Do Do you want Sabin? Do you want Dion Sanders? Who I personally think Colorado takes a big step back this year? I’m sure Joel Clatt knows more. Go ahead. So, it’s interesting. Bellich had no interest going west. If you looked at who he interviewed for jobs, it was mostly, you know, he’s got a place in like Jupiter, Florida, Nantucket. Bill didn’t want to be out west. Uh Tom Brady, frankly, had told people, you know, he went to Tampa. He considered Miami. Tom didn’t really want to go west at the time with Jazelle. The kids, right? He wanted, right? He didn’t want to go west. So, my take is Texas for saving. I mean he and his wife Miss Terry they call her they they flew to Austin Texas or she did when remember he lost to Auburn and there was a lot of heat on Sabin and it was like you guys have Sabin everybody loses in big rivalries at Michigan 20 point dog just beat Ohio State slow down but it kind of ticked Sabin off he ended up getting a great deal from Alabama to go back he got somebody to pay off his house he got a car dealership he was so ticked off by that but Texas Saints feel like, you know, he’s got his lake house. I could see that very much with him. Quick private jet from Dallas to his lake house in Georgia or New Orleans. That just feels like those fit. He’s taking he’s first of all, he’s getting a call. Takes it. I don’t know.
Colin Cowherd reacts to the disaster that is the Chicago Bears preseason camp, he explains why Ben Johnson is not happy with Caleb Williams despite his talent. Next he reacts to Cleveland Browns general manager Andrew Berry’s comments on Shedeur Sanders’ speeding tickets not being a smart move by Deion’s son. Finally, Colin discusses whether this season on the Pittsburgh Steelers will impact Aaron Rodger’s legacy NFL legacy that he built with the Green Bay Packers and whether former Alabama coach Nick Saban is telling the truth about returning to coaching.
0:00 Bears
4:48 Shedeur Sanders
7:31 Aaron Rodgers
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46 comments
Can't be worse than his last 3 seasons. Overrated will be hurt and try to play thru it, Aaron is washed.
If Brock throws 2 ints in prac you are ready to trade him
I think the schools that can pay the most will end up dominating. Texas has a lot of rich boosters. Alabama doesn't
But Pittsburgh was supposed to trade watt pickens ans 3 first round picks for caleb! Yeah ok colin 😂😂😂
During the season, all recent bias
Maybe because he's a Superbowl winning QB, Superbowl MVP, 4 time league MVP, highest passer rating ever, highest TD to INT ratio….etc.
Wont hurt cause we will Win
Never saw Big Ben as clutch. Ranks 3rd all time in 4th 1/4 comeback and OT wins. And 1st and 22 drive from the 12 to beat the Cards in a Super Bowl!
Oh, only behind Brady and Manning. Both played longer as well. #7 never turtled when pressure was coming
yea this is rare considering trevor lawrence still cant read deffenses
Mannings 2nd Super Bowl was all on the D. Payton finnished on a low. Im glad Brady won without Bill. Spygate STILL bothers me. Read that report
The problem is Chicago. Poverty franchise.
colin shut uppp the shedur sanders topic is bogus good kick him out yall dragging him threw the mud and garuntee he is better out the gate the joe flaco and jamis winston wtf are we talking about here ya dumb but like get off his dck
But only one SB? Even Peyton got a second
“The Lions right now I don’t think are as good as the bears personnel wise”
That’s all I needed to hear to discredit everything. What an awful take.
“Assthlets”is crazy
A-Aron's legacy is he chokes in the big games. The only way to hurt that is to win the SB.
Training camp is the time and place when mistakes are okay and where to correct them at, its funny how many hof qbs struggled in camp or practice or whatever, but with caleb its a big deal🤣 new hc playbook everything.
Drake Maye and Bo Nix so much better then nail polish guy.
Brady looked pretty horrible he last two years and last year in New England. That one year in Tampa just shows you the team aspect. Dominate o line where he doesn’t get hit and some of the greatest receivers of all time meaning uncover able guys like AB and Gronk and even Evans as a third option and a ridiculous defense omg he won even though A Rod outplayed him in the nfc title game and lost due to his coach, I mean it was expected plus the long standing accepted notion that Brady is a cheater which was just confirmed then.
This is so incredibly stupid. Why does Sam Darnold get a 5 year pass and Caleb Williams gets one practice….this is more about you being right. Not about the player.
By the end of the season, Colin wants to say “I told you so!” about Caleb Williams.
Great show Colin. I'm subscribing on YouTube cuz I'm not turning the streaming TV on till the season starts.
“I think football is much smarter today than it was years ago” uhhhh no. Just overwhelmingly wrong.
Aaron Rodgers sucks give it a break. What are you talking about?
Crazy these shows have nothing to talk about so they say the same thing every single day
Lions offense >>>>> Colin picking da bears offense
Why are you giving AR a pass?(no pun intended). The goal of every team is to win the Super Bowl, not to go 7 and 10. If that’s the case you are trying to make please stick to your opinions and don’t ever go into coaching because with what you are willing to accept with Rodgers would get you fired!
10:55 what happened to his voice? Completely different.
Caleb Williams is still a rookie in my opinion. Look what happened to Bryce Young. Give this kid time to develop. He will get much better. That said I hate the Bears and Chicago and the entire woke state of Illinois. Go Lions!!!
This liberal left-coaster is hilarious! Great content!
As a Ravens fan Lamar has never had a great training camp. Means less than nothing
Colin “flip flop” cowherd
A Berry has drafted one pro bowler. He sucks lol
I think this is the kindest thing I've ever heard Colin say about Rodgers lmao
Tom Brady came on this show and said that teams need to be more oatient. It's his first year in the system and he's a bit prickly. Aaron was too. Give it time.
I enjoy watching Colin. Not because I think he has any idea what he’s talking about. More because he has zero clue, yet truly believes he knows something. Quite hysterical
Ben Johnson is the issue here not the young Qb. Coach’s job is to adapt his style to the players talents not the player give up his best assists to fit the coaches stubborn beliefs as to HOW the player must perform. Johnson seems to be to rigid just like the coach before him. This seems to be the same coaching issues they had with Justin Fields. White coaches who dislike the black quarterbacks players playing styles and who refuse to adapt to help the young black quarterback’s perform better in the NFL. I blame the White quarterback coaches. Not in Miami, not in KC, Not in Baltimore, not in Atlanta, not in Carolina, not in Washington. Black quarterbacks and White head coaches. The White coaches are the issue here! Justin fields excelled at Ohio State under a white head coach. Hello! Kelib Williams excelled at 2 colleges under a white head coach! 3 great Black college quarterbacks and all 3 have had head coaching problems with their NFL football teams head coaches or white quarterback coaches. These 3 Black college quarterbacks are 3 of the best college quarterbacks, EVER! Now in the NFL, they are the issues. The same bull poop in Carolina with a top college Black quarterback too and now Houston is saying the same thing there with their Black great college quarterback. This is 5 of the best Black college quarterbacks in NCAA history over the last 15 years to last 17 years. Better than 90% of all the white quarterbacks drafted in the past 15 years to 17 years. I see the issue here. Ask Shedure Sanders, he is number 6 as a Black college great quarterback to be looked at as difficult, as a slow player learner, misses play calls, etc. Yeah, dislike for the better college Great Black quarterbacks and the number 1 picks for all these men except Sanders who many thought should have been drafted number one or number two. This years number 1 pick, a top rated Black quarterback! The NFL has drafted more Top Black quarterbacks in the last 10 to 15 years than top white quarterbacks. The white head coaches don’t like this who are young new head NFL coaches and most were defensive or offensive coaches, first. Blame the white head coaches because all these guys but 2 had white college head coaches who they all did great under them!!!!✅ Judge the new white NFL head coaches with much less coaching experience or head coaching experience than all the head college coaches these 6 quarterbacks played extremely well for and won more football games than they lost as the starting black quarterbacks!!!!🤫🤫🤫🤫✅
Here’s a take no one has said yet, as a steelers fan and WV resident I could see Tomlin and Steelers mutually parting ways after this season( has been brought up as possibility) and Omar calls Saban (Grew up in WV less than 2 hrs away from Pittsburgh ) and with 13 draft picks next year and the draft in Pittsburg Saban takes the job , there is way more reasons something like this could happen just think
Can we get JMac off the show
All the Bronsexuals “coming out” to defend their Queen 👸 is HILARIOUS
Still talking about speeding tickets months later
9:00 thank you Colin. Rodger’s is set and stone regardless of this year lol
Hahaha Tom Cruise in the mummy
Colin you were selling Caleb as the cant miss talent lol
Thank god Andrew Berry is Black, cuz if he wasn't, his calling out Shedeur for his repeated dumb actions would be considered by the race baits as…………."racist." Now these low IQ people can only call him a…………"hater." That's all they got. No facts, not arguments. Just LEGENDARY emotion.