St. Louis Cardinals Lose ANOTHER Top Pitching Prospect to Tommy John | Fedde Trade & Arenado Rumors

St. Louis Cardinals Lose ANOTHER Top Pitching Prospect to Tommy John | Fedde Trade & Arenado Rumors

St. Louis Cardinals get horrible news about one of their top pitching prospects and the team makes their first move of the trade deadline window and it’s as unspectacular as the guy that they traded away. You are Locked on Cardinals, your daily St. Louis Cardinals podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network. Your team every day. Hey there Cardinals fans. My name is JD Havern and I am your host for Lockdown Cardinals, part of the lockdown podcast network covering your team every day. You can follow me on X at JD Sports Radio and the podcast is also available on X at LOL_Cardinals. You can find us on YouTube, Tik Tok, Instagram at Lockdown Cardinals. This is a show serving Cardinal Nation and giving the best fans of baseball all of the info about the birds on the bat. This episode brought to you by Monarch Money. Take control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code lock. MLB at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year. On today’s show, we’ve got some trade deadline talk uh about Nolan Aronado. I want to get to uh we’re going to discuss this Eric Fetty deal with the Atlanta Braves, but we do have some breaking news and it is not good news whatsoever. Courtesy of the Athletics Katie Woo. Cardinals pitching prospect Takcoa Roby is done for the year and it’s being reported that he had Tommy John surgery on Friday and is more than likely out not only for the rest of this year but also next year. So we probably won’t see him again until 2027. Uh a devastating blow to say the least. This sucks. Like this sucks big time. Taka Roby, one of those guys that I was really hoping to see in a Cardinal uniform come September. My dream, if you will, was to see he and Quinn Matthews up with the team in September so they could get their first taste of major league action. I know we got to see him in spring training, but major league action before hopefully taking the next step and becoming members of the rotation next year along with Sunny Gray, Michael McGrevy, Matthew Liberator, Andre Palante, and now that idea has been blown to bits. Uh Roby, who was acquired along with Thomas Jaci, if you remember, that was the trade with the Texas Rangers that brought uh those guys over, Jordan McGomery, Chris Stratton, went the other way. Things worked out well for the Rangers. They go on to win a World Series. They traded Tommy Edmond last year. They go on to win the World Series. Just think if you get a a Cardinals player, you’re at least a good one. You’re probably going to go to the World Series and win. At least that’s how the thinking appears to work. Uh but the Cardinal Cardinals, meanwhile, they’re they’re still waiting on what they’re going to get from Roi and Si. So JC has been solid in the minors, but when he has been brought up, hasn’t done all that much. he’s just kind of stuck in that log jam of infielders that the Cardinals still have. So, so much that maybe they’re they’re talking about moving him to the outfield, taking some reps out there um just so he can play more. But Roby seemed to be on the hot track to St. Louis. You know, injuries have been a thing that’s held him back his entire professional career, but this year when he was on the mound, he was really, really good. Um, as Katie points out in her article, uh, he was in the midst of his best season. Roby was promoted to TripleA Memphis back in June after posting a 2.49 RA and 10 starts in DA. He had 87 strikeouts over 78 and a third innings overall and was building a strong case for consideration in next year’s major league rotation. In large part due to a retoolled pitch mix, which uh, she goes in great detail about some of the changes and alterations that they made to what he was doing. uh talking about his slider uh the two seam fast ball which became a big deal for him. His slider became a real weapon and you got a chance to see him in the spring and you know the first thing you see and when you watch Taka Roby pitch was you were like whoa he dude’s throwing 99. Uh I did not know he had 99 in his bag but that bo was really fun to watch. the guy was showing some real swing and miss potential which we know the Cardinals are sorely in need of. Um and then after Quinn Matthews went down this year with his shoulder issues early on, it was Roby kind of like just blew past him as the next pitching prospect that looked like they were on the cusp of going to the major leagues that the Cardinals would be able to showcase this year. And now you get this news and it’s just awful. Like it’s it’s just awful. when you feel bad for him obviously uh but as the organization like you’re like this is what is happening this year uh it’s been a really bad trend for the organization because this is now the third pitching prospect one of their top guys that has gone down with Tommy John’s surgery Cooper Jerpy gone Sim Robertson gone and when you have an organization like the Cardinal right now which is starving for impact pitch pitching and all three of those guys, maybe not not so much Robertson. Robertson is there wasn’t a lot going on there that seemed like, oh wow, he’s just incredible. He seemed like he was kind of in the mold of being, you know, the pitch to contact type of stuff. Um, so it wasn’t like his strikeout numbers were that great, but you see the the unique delivery of a Cooper Jerby from the left hand side and you you see his ability to to to get swing and miss and then you saw what Takakota Roi was doing and for this to happen like now it’s just like ah because I mean we’ve got the month of August and then it was like ah maybe we’ll you know Roby stays healthy And boom, it’s over. So there you go. That is the awful news that we start things off with. I should have gave you a choice. You want the good news or the bad news first? The good news is the Cardinals were able to trade Eric Fetty. The bad news is Kor Roy’s gone now. Now, who steps up to uh possibly be a part of this rotation next year if he’s gone? You still have Quinn Matthews. Um, it’s tough. Uh I I I it’s very bleak right now. Let’s put it that way. There’s just not a lot of starting ro rotation depth in this organization. So maybe trading for one, you know, maybe they can get somebody at this trade deadline. We are going to talk more about the trade deadline here in a little bit. But uh the team did finally trade away Eric Fetty. So we should discuss that. We’ll discuss that deal and why I’m hoping it is the end of a terrible pattern by this organization. And that’s coming up next on Locked on Cardinals. Ever wish managing your money felt easier? With Monarch Money, it can. Whether you’re growing your savings or you’re planning a big purchase, you know, cars, houses, boats, uh Monarch puts you in the driver’s seat, it’s basically like having your own personal CFO. It’s going to give you full visibility and control over your finances because it’s more than just a budgeting app. Monarch Money is a complete financial command center where you can track all of your accounts, investments, and spending in one place. So, in addition to managing your money, which is great, you’re also building wealth. 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The trade deadline coming up on Thursday and many people believe the Cardinals are going to be very busy at this time, which I hope they are selling off pieces to other teams. And one of those names that was always set to be moved at some point was going to be Eric Fetty. And it just did not go down the way that we all imagined it would. You know, in the uh perfect happy place scenario, everybody’s talking about happy Gilmore, too. In our happy place scenario with Eric Fetty, the thought was that not only could he help you last year in 2024, uh but also give you a solid option for this year in your rotation. And if he pitches well, it gives you another trade chip at the deadline if you aren’t in playoff contention. Um problem was is he he wasn’t very good as a St. Louis Cardinal and his trade value plummeted from what the Cardinals paid for him which ended up being Tommy Edmond to what he is now which was just kind of like somebody take this dude. So the trade in its finality here fetty goes to the Braves who aren’t wasting any time. They’re pitching him on Tuesday against Kansas City. They’re already throwing them in. Um, but also money. ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez reported that the Cardinals will be covering the 2.7 million remaining on his $7.5 million salary for 2025, which means the Cardinals are basically paying him this year to pitch for the Braves. Awesome. Awesome. The Cardinals will receive cash considerations or a player to be named later in return. Uh just a bomb of a trade. None of it worked. Terrible trade that cost the Cardinals a fan favorite in Tommy Edmond who went on to win the NLCS MVP and help the Dodgers win a championship. While the Cardinals get a guy who ended up going what, three and 10, 3 and 10 with a 5.22 RA over 20 starts this season and overall in a Cardinal uniform. He went 5 and 15 with a 4.69 69 RA in 30 starts with the Cardinals. In other words, it went bad and then it went really bad. And it was another example of the Cardinals doing their shopping in the bargain bin section. You know what it’s like when you go to these stores and they’re like, “Oh, look at all these, you know, Blu-rays and DVDs still available and people still buy those. Look at they’re only a buck. Let’s go get them.” That’s where the Cardinals keep doing their shopping and you get what you pay for. And I had said it last week in that episode when it was going on that I I was like I was the idea of the trade made sense. I wanted better than Eric Fetty last year and they went Eric Fetty because that’s what the Cardinals do. That’s what John Moak does. And you can file this trade away with a bunch of the other ones that haven’t panned out in recent years under Mo who again, you know, he is under orders to keep the payroll at a certain spot. He’s got to navigate in that area. He’s got those restrictions, but at the same time, the guys he’s picking suck. They’ve been so bad that it has tarnished what was a really good run as a GM for John Mo. And now because it’s always like, “What have you done for me lately?” Everybody is like, “This guy’s terrible. Get him out of here.” And he is leaving. Like I still get all when are they gonna get rid of this guy? When are they going to fire this guy? He is leaving at the end of this year. Like it’s it’s over. Him Bloom’s taking over. But the Cardinal way of plucking the lowhanging fruit and hoping they turn into something more has worn extremely thin on myself and on this fan base. We’ve been sick of it for a while now. and they just keep doing it or they kept doing it. They’re not even doing it now. Now they’re just not spending any money. But it’s why I’m eager to see them trade away these pieces that they can trade away this year and start rebuilding things for 2026. You know, there’s a a core of guys here that I’m excited for their future, but they they wanted to jumpst start this thing at this going into this season. And you know, it’s one of the reason I got excited this off seasonason. I’m like, “Oh my god, finally they’ve picked a lane. They picked a lane. They’re going to trade away this high price veteran stuff that didn’t win them jack.” And even though it bummed me out to think that the Cardinals were going to struggle this year, it at least felt like they decided on a direction and they were going to it. And then Sunny and Wilson said, “Nope, we don’t want to be traded.” Aronado vetoed the trade to Houston, which essentially put us right back in the same freaking spot they were last year. And that’s a meddling 500 team with a hope that the younger players would progress and make them better. It didn’t work last year, it didn’t work this year. Some of these guys I feel like have gone in a positive direction. Like I think, you know, Matthew Liberator is a success story this year. Ivon Herrera when healthy has shown a lot of promise. I’m excited for his future. Alec Berles did very similar to what he did last year when they decided to finally give him a normal spot and let him just play. Didn’t matter where he was dhing or he’s playing first or in the outfield. They’re like, “We need your bat in the lineup, dude. You you can stick.” So, um, he’d been good, but that you haven’t seen the big jump that you were hoping from guys that you thought were going to be stars. Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, even Mason Wen. We don’t talk badly about Mason Win very often because he doesn’t do a whole lot of things bad. Been amazing defensively. There’s really nothing to knock there. But hitting wise, he’s essentially the same dude he was last year. There’s there’s no progress and that’s a problem. He didn’t get any better. He’s just doing the same things now. He’s been dealing with that knee thing, but at the same time like it’s this like go look at his numbers. They’re very identical. So he didn’t go anywhere. He didn’t go up. He didn’t get worse. He’s just there. Uh Victor Scott has not come around offensively like you’d hoped. You had that hot start and then everybody started to figure out to throw breaking balls at him and he fizzled out is a weapon. When he gets on the base pass, obviously stolen bases, he’s one of the best in the league, great defensively, but the offense hasn’t come around. Um, but because this organization, you know, it fell behind in developing their prospects under Mo’s watch, you had to go out and buy back of the rotation guys and hope that they would outperform whatever they did previously. And it doesn’t work. They’re back of the rotation guys for a reason. They’re not supposed to be, dude, you build a rotation around. And personally, I’m tired of the Eric Fetties and the Miles Michael’s and the Kyle Gibsons and the Lance Lens. Like all four of those guys may not be in baseball last year. Two of them are already out. Gibson and Lenn have retired. I don’t know who’s picking up Michael. Somebody probably will, but like the Cardinals used to be able to do more with less. guys like Kyle Los, uh, Jeff Supan, Jeff Weaver, you know, guys like that. They found success with those guys back in the day, but they don’t do that anymore. That was a long time ago. They don’t have guys that can turn those people around. You don’t have someone who has the caliber of Dave Duncan as your pitching coach anymore to help fix these veteran guys to teach them new things. You don’t have Yadier Molina or Mike Matheni behind the plate to take care of these guys and make them better pitchers and better game managers. Those days are gone. So, the thinking has to change around the St. Louis Cardinals. And there’s hope that it finally will when this season ends and he bloom his era officially begins. The Cardinals need to develop their own stud pitchers. That’s just the way it is. Every organization wants to develop their own stud. They don’t want to go out and overpay for people, but some teams have the means and have decided that they can do that. But you go look at like say the Dodgers, they go out and they just buy a whole rotation, but at the same time, they had all these young guys they were developing and they’re able to trade them away and use them as pieces. Maybe they’ll be interested in getting uh in Ryan Hley or Nolan Arnonado. Maybe that’s something that’s still I don’t think the Aronado thing is going to happen. But the Ryan Helley, did you guys see Emanuel Class A? This one just broke a little bit ago. Hold on, let me get to the story. But that um Emanuel Class has been There we go. Guardians closer Emanuel Class A placed on paid leave as part of league sports betting investigation. He was one of the big names that were being mentioned as relievers getting traded away at the deadline. Guys that I think teams thought more highly of Emanuel Class than they do of Brian Helley, but now he might be out of the picture. So that opens it up for Ryan Hley getting moved and you’re hoping that they can acquire some of the pitching that they’ve been lacking in their organization. You know, I there’s my hope again, Quinn Matthews, Takakota Roi, Teen Kent, new first round pick Liam Doyle. The hope is that these are guys are going to be the beginning of the new regime of good starting pitchers that will come up, but Roy’s out now. Hen Matthews have dealt with injuries. Liam Doyle’s just getting started. So, they’re not like just knocking on the door waiting. So now we’re still stuck with the same crap we’ve had the last few years. And that’s these pitch to contact dudes. And it has not been a great recipe for success. Even as good as this defense has been this year, the ball finds holes. If you can’t get these guys to swing and miss, eventually they’re gonna they’re gonna burn you. And it just happened to Michael McGrevy. Padres’s got like it was like gh that’s depressing. They just need more pitching that misses bats. They need more swing and miss. It’s just that simple. Hopefully they can acquire some guys like that at this trade deadline with some of the pieces they have that could be moved. You know, they’ve got a nice stable of bullpin pieces. The other teams that I think should find attractive, you know, Helley, Naton, U Steven Matz obviously are big names, you know. I don’t want to trade Jojo Romero. He’s been awesome. But if somebody wants to overpay for it, again, everything is on sale right now. So, uh, come and get him. Um, we’re going to check in on the rumor mill next. Um, mostly mostly I want to talk about this one Cardinal whose name continues to pop up more frequently. If the Cardinals could move him, I think it would be it would be wise. We’ll talk about him next coming up on Lockdown Cardinals. Today’s episode brought to you by Game Day Hugh and uh so is this beautiful red Cardinal red and white hat that I have with me today for Cardinals fans like me. This one it’s going to hit the mark. You guys are going to like these. They they come in different styles, too. You can get the blue, you get the white with the red. It’s not like you could switch it around and stuff. I got the red and white ones. Uh, Game Day Hugh makes clean, no logo gear, which has team inspired colorways for for not only professional teams, but also your college fan bases, which is great. And it’s all about letting your colors speak for you. No giant logos, just smart, versatile style that works on game day. Obviously, on the golf course, they’re great or anywhere in between. 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Uh right now you can get 15% off with code MLB15. at gamedayhw.com. That’s gamedayhue.com. The code even stacks on or stacks on bundle deals. So now’s the time to start loading up. Let your colors talk because colors speak louder than words. That’s game dayhu.com code MLB15. Thank you again for making lock on Cardinals your first listen today. for your second list. And I want you to check out the locked on MLB Game Night. Every game, every night, all season long. Get local analysis on a national scale. You can find MLB Game Night on Locked on MLB on YouTube or wherever you listen to your podcast. I got to get a drink. Hold on. I’ve been very since uh my trip to Bush Stadium with the family and stuff. So, voice is recovering from it. So, bear with me. But we’ve discussed the idea of let’s talk some deadline trading Brennan Donovan. A lot of discussion about that, right? People are up in arms. People can’t seem to choose what side of the fence they’re on. Again, my thing is if Brennan Donovan is getting interest, which I’m sure he is because he’s a very good player and can do a lot of different things for a club. Um, is that if somebody is willing to overpay, like overpay and give you anything you want for them, then you you gotta listen. But you don’t have to get rid of him. This is not something where it’s got to be done. I would love to keep Donnie around. He’s kind of this captain of the team. And when other guys are gone, whether that’s Willie or Sunny or Aronado, he’s going to be the veteran go-to guy to look at. So, I’m not actively trying to get rid of him, but I will listen. Nolan Arnonado is a different thing. you know, Nolan, the situation with him, we’ve talked a lot about obviously since last off season and he’s got a no trade clause. All right, this is the problem. As much as you want to get rid of his contract, he’s got a no trade clause. So, he holds all the power. But it doesn’t mean teams won’t be tempted to come talk to the Cardinals about him, specifically if they don’t end up getting Auane Suarez, which is the guy most of these teams are chasing. Um, it’s been a hot topic. Soon as they dealt Josh Taylor, as soon as Arizona traded him, that meant Auano Suarez is not going to be a Diamondback any longer unless he signs an extension, which doesn’t I don’t see that happening. They’re going to try to trade him because all these teams are after him because he offers that elite pop from the hot corner. But Nado’s name is being brought up more and more because of the third base trade market being something that a lot of teams want. Mark Feinand uh over at MLB.com talked about it. You know, the Yankees jumping on the the Ryan McMahon trade early, getting it over with. That’s our guy. But he points out that Suarez is the crown jewel of this deadline. And he lists the Cubs, the Mariners, the Tigers, the Brewers, the Reds, the Astros, and the Phillies. All having interest in him, which means one of those teams can get him. What are those other teams going to do? That’s where Nolan Aronado comes into play here. It’s kind of funny that Auanio Suarez, he used to play for the Mariners, the Tigers, and the Reds, and they’ve all gotten rid of him, and now they all want to get him back. So, it’s kind of funny to me. But, um, this is where Natto could become important. Obviously, the trade deadline, Natto’s got to approve it. Didn’t like didn’t want to do the trade to Houston in the off season. Um, but Feinstand points out that even though Houston is in a need for a third baseman following Isach Parade’s recent injury, uh, he says that the Astros don’t appear inclined to make another bid for Aronado. And I’m sure it wouldn’t be as good as the offer that the Cardinals had this off season, which Natto vetoed, and that’s why he’s still in a Cardinal uniform. He points out the Yankees already got their guy. Um, but a source said some of the other clubs pursuing Suarez could pivot to Aronado if they miss out on the Arizona Slugger. He points out that Aronado’s got two years, 42 million remaining on his contract beyond the season. 27 and 26 and 15 million in 27. Next season salary includes 6 million in deferred money plus 5 million that will be paid by the Rockies as part of that trade. Uh, the Cardinals would likely have to pay down part of Arnado’s contract in order to move them, which is what he they were going to do with the deal to Houston, but St. Louis’s desire to open a spot for some of its young infielders might prompt them to do that. After starting the season in strong fashion, Aronado has been a bit of a roller coaster. Looked to have turned things around in June, posting an 801 OPS in the first 20 games. Since then, he’s got a 476 OPS over his past 20 contests before Sunday. Overall, 10 home runs, 43 ribbies, 669 OPS in 93 games this season. 34 year old remains an elite defender at third base, which we know, we know he’s been awesome. Uh, four outs above average ranking in the 89th percentile. Whether stellar defense and slightly below average offense are enough for a club to commit to two plus years of Baron remains to be seen, but it’s certainly in play. I think it’s really going to come down to how much money the Cardinals are willing to eat. They just ate the fetti salary. He’s pitching for the Braves, but the Cardinals are paying for that. Cardinals are going to have to pay for him to play for somebody else, too. And he’s got to want to go there. And again, I don’t know if he wants to leave during the season. This it again, I’ll keep saying it until I’m proven wrong, but it feels like Aronado would be more comfortable doing something like this in the offseason where he’s got more time to plan for it instead of just like a boom, gone. like it just doesn’t feel like a natto thing to do. But the way the season’s going for the Cardinals and how bad it’s been since the second half started and a lot of teams are still in contention and maybe he would like to play for some of those teams. I don’t know if he does or not, but we’ll see. We’ll see if he’s interested or whether or not he’d rather revisit this in the offseason once again. Well, on the fieldwise, losing the final two against the Padres’s ruined the the momentum they had built after winning those first two. One in five road trip sucked. Then you win two against the Padres’s. Oh, we’re not that bad. No, we suck again. Michael McGrevy getting pummeled in his first start as a member of the rotation didn’t help anything other because that was one of the things that the fan base was excited to see. Betty’s gone. Yay. The Wicked Witch is gone. McGrevy, he’s our shiny new toy. We’ll put him Oh, he just he just got killed, too. Okay. Uh but we’ll see how he responds to adversity. This is his first time really getting hit hard by a team in the major league. So, um, seems like he’s got a good head on his shoulders. Very mature for his age. So, I’m sure he’ll be fine. But the question is, is he good enough as a pitcher? Again, he’s another pitch to contact guy. Uh, you got the Marlins in town losing record overall. I think they still have a losing record, don’t they? Because they were way down there for a little bit. Uh, yeah, 50 and 54. But they’ve played so much better like in the last month or so. like they’ve been a really good team. So, um, no pushovers here tonight. It’s Edward Cabera, really good right-hander against Andre Palante, whose erra continues to creep closer to five, which is bad. He’s going in the wrong direction as most of this team has. Things are very ugly right now. And this TORI news just puts another shadow over this dark time for this franchise. I know it’s rough, but uh maybe we’ll see something exciting happen at this trade deadline, but obviously we’ll keep you posted if anything uh drops. Thanks for making lock on to Cardinal, your first listen every day for your second listen. Uh again, MLB game night. Go check that out. If you haven’t given us a follow on X at l_cardles at JD Sports Radio, please do that. Tik Tok, Instagram, uh obviously YouTube got the channel. It’s good time. So, uh, come by and see us if, uh, listening to this on just the audio. You guys are the best fans of baseball for a reason. I know it’s tough right now, guys. I know. I know. We’ll see you next time on Locked on Cardinals.

Cardinals’ Pitching Woes Deepen: Prospect Injury, Trade Blunders, and Arenado Rumors

St. Louis Cardinals face a triple threat of setbacks. Top prospect Tekoah Roby undergoes Tommy John surgery, sidelining him for potentially until 2027. The Birds trade Erick Fedde to Atlanta in a questionable deal, paying him to pitch for the Braves. Trade deadline buzz swirls around Nolan Arenado, despite his no-trade clause. Can the Cardinals overcome their pitching development struggles and roster management missteps?

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