More Minnesota Twins trades are on the horizon

More Minnesota Twins trades are on the horizon

[Music] It’s the Score North Twin Show Baseball. Score North Twin Show. Who will they trade next? Who will they trade next? The Dober. Pour one out for Randy Dock. Oh, and Chris Paddock. And Chris Paddock. Pull out. Are we going to get tribute videos the next time Paddock and or Don Neck come back to Target Field? Oh, yeah. I’m here. I’m here for the Dobnack tribute video 2019. Let’s go. Just an Uber driver that it’s sponsored tonight by Uber. No, that’d be that’d be kind of be kind of messed up, but I guess not out of the realm of possibility. Uh, Coach Trev joining us every Tuesday here on the Score North Twin Show. Um, so Trev, the the the trade broke like at 2:45. I’m going to give you some behind the scenes stuff. It broke around 2:45. Insiders had it. Uh, Clubhouse opens like at 3. I’m running late. Traffic in the Twin Cities right now, every damn major road to get you anywhere into downtown Minneapolis is closed. So, I’m running late. It’s 3:10. So, I get in there like 10 minutes after Clubhouse is open and like 25 minutes after the trade has been uh made public. Not sure what happened there. You good? I think we’re all good. Trev Trev Trev got traded off the screen. I was like, what happened? Trev went away and then he’s back on. Um, but as as I’m coming back into the as I’m into the locker room, they were like, “Has Paddock spoke yet?” I’m like, “Why? Why does why does Paddock need to speak? It’s Mon even pitched today.” And then they’re like, “You don’t know he got traded, did you?” And I was like, “Nope. Did not know he got traded.” So, he gets traded. Uh, goes for the t second best catching prospect actually in the Tigers organization, a switch hitter, a slap dick prospect according to probably Coach Trev. 19 years old. Uh, but Chris Paddock traded Trev. Are there more trades obviously on the horizon and are you still in the same camp of if these are rentals get them out of here and the Jackson Durant the controllable guys let’s try to keep those dudes and build around them. Well I I use slapdick prospect kind of as a joke and then more of like a blanket statement for minor of the years. Not this guy in particular. I don’t like to single anybody out. He’s a catcher too so he’s they needed that in the organization 100%. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I I I I think there’s going to be a lot of trades. I sent you guys a list of guys who I think are going to be traded yesterday. I mean, I think I think Bader is going to go and I think he could really help a club and he he actually might fetch a nice return. Um, I think Willie Castro is going to go. I think that Danny Kulom is going to go. I think Brock Stewart’s going to go, which like I love Brock Stewart and would I personally trade him? I don’t think so. I like I’m very very high on him. I know he’s had battle with injuries, but he’s still like a controllable like high-end bullpen piece, so you don’t give those up for free. That’s been the Twins calling card for a couple years. I guess it really hasn’t worked out for them, but um yeah, I I I think we’re going to see a an influx of trades happening soon. And I hope Joe Ryan should be untouchable, especially at this deadline. Like if you want to talk in the next year or two years, whatever it is, like but this deadline that you there’s no way you start next year without Joe Ryan. How about this Trev? H how about when this team is sold their first splash move fairly quickly is to come in and actually sign Joe to an extension. I think that would cause I I think that would be like a a sign that things are changing. And the more I think about this, I think Joe is a guy that you could 100% build your future around, which could be bright. It doesn’t have to be bleak. Uh, and also would get some fan goodwill. The more I think about this, I think Joe should be signed to a contract extension, not traded at any point. This is like I don’t want to say like I’m anti Joe. I want him to make as much money as possible because I mean just, you know, it’s very difficult to do what he’s done. Uh but if you’re the twins, these guys about to have a baby. Like this is the time to say, “Hey, do you want to secure your like family’s financial status forever?” There’s levels to this. This is Isn’t it true? You got to draw a little bit. I love this. This is my GM right here. Do it for your family, Joe. Love this guy. So, I mean, look, I yeah, I just think he’s good for the organization. You can market him all these good things. He’s also an excellent pitcher. He’s one of the best pitchers in the big leagues right now. So, I don’t think he should be there. And then, you know, Jackson Durant, I go back and forth on those guys. I don’t know how you guys feel about it, but you know, I I I like I think having reliable guys at the back end of the pen is very very like soothing and calming on a season to know that you can shut games down. I know bullpen is the bullpen is fluid for in most situations, but those guys have been pretty good for a long time. Uh their guys I’d have to be kind of like blown away like I have to get exactly what I want for those guys. Yeah, I I agree. the Joe Ryan thing 100%. Because you’re trying to be competitive. I I think if you’re if you’re planning on trading Joe Ryan, then you might as well go into like a White Socks full scale. Okay, cool. than just like get really bad for a couple years and get get high draft picks and load up your prospect bin cuz you’re your pitching is not going to be good enough to compete if you trade Joe Ryan unless somebody immediately pops like you get the next Joe Ryan from that Nelson Cruz trade. Um, just to put a bow on the Donack Paddock thing, not to like pile on or disrespect Doabnak or Paddock, but you took a chance on that do you did one of those those bo contracts with with Doabnak and boom, he secures a few million dollars for his life and future. Uh, basically was a non-factor for you and has been pretty bad at AAA this year. And then Chris Paddock had a nice little flash of maybe five starts, but RA pushing five and it just hasn’t worked to get someone’s 14th best organizational prospect for those guys. And I think they saved like three or $3.5 million for the for the stretch run here too. So part of this I’m assuming on the DNA front cuz the it’s a team option for 6 million in 2026 with a $1 million buyout. My guess is they’re just saving the one like they’re telling the Tigers, you pick up the $1 million buyout on this thing. It’s just a way to save a million bucks, right? But to get I think to get something of value and save some money for for those guys like that’s pretty good GMing, I think. So, does that make you think we should take advantage of this market a little bit more? Or is that kind of your feeling on I mean you’re like if you’re if if that’s the going rate for just like a depth starting pitcher like do you guys like Ch do you think Chris Paddock is making a playoff start for the Tigers in two months? They don’t have they don’t have starters. Like that’s kind of like I mean they they do have starters. I don’t want to say that. Uh but they they I don’t know if he’s going to make a playoff start but they need innings to keep their bullpen fresh. I think that’s the way they’re looking at it. And then I can see him I don’t know if he if he makes the playoff roster I could see him out of the pen long guy. Yeah. In a in a playoff start. I don’t think he’s starting a playoff game. No. And also I I think uh the in division trade tax here. Like I brought this up yesterday. I don’t think you get the 14th organizational prospect if you traded him to Houston. Like I I don’t think that happens. I think with Valve driving, which is like pretty public knowledge at this point, that he drives a hard bargain, especially in the division, and other teams do too. Like last year, the Twins wanted Michael Copek, and the White Socks were asking for Luke Keshaw for God’s sakes. Like, that would have been an insane overpay. And COPEC’s a good reliever, but he’s hurt all the damn time. Uh, so I don’t think he would have gotten a 14th prospect if it wasn’t with the Tigers. To Trev’s point though, um I think guys like Bader and Danny Kulum and C Willie Castro too, speaking of Houston, like I bet Willie Castro in Houston seems like a perfect match because they need left field second base help. Uh yeah, I think the price definitely is going up. I think as we get closer to the deadline here in a couple days. Yeah, I I Willie’s Willie is a great trade piece for literally any team. Again, I think Bader is in that same breath as well because he’s a good defensive outfielder that’s got some pop. Um, a lot of teams are need right-handed hitters to, you know, to combat some lefty uh, stuff. So, I I think that there is a world where the Twins come out of this like feeling pretty good about what they’ve done on the season. No, I think this is like a lost season. I think this this ca they came into 2025 with the best roster in the AL Central and it just did not work out that way. which didn’t work out on uh JS or Durand Trev. First of all, which one would you trade? And second of all, speaking of price points, like with the amount of teams contenders, including teams uh that are contenders that have good bullpens, but can use one more really good arm. What’s the price tag there? Because I mean, I do think that you could name your price and get pretty dog on close there. But of those two, which one would would you think would make the most sense to deal away? Just really quick, Trev, by the way, because ESPN floated an idea for Don to the Yankees, and the Yankees would give up Carlos Lraange, which is their top pitching prospect, number two in the organization, too. Yeah. I I don’t know. It’s It’s both these guys do such different things. Um to me, Jax is seems like I you know I don’t know. I was about to say he seems more reliable but he’s had some blowup uh appearances this year. Like I love his stuff but Duran’s so overpowering. I feel like Duran would fetch more because he is in the ninth inning and he has closed games out. So I think he’s more valuable. They’re both same uh service time situation. So, like that doesn’t really factor into this. I think he trade if you’re going to trade these guys, I think you trade Durant. He’s younger. He’s 27. In terms of like what would if if you took both of them and said what would get you the you the service time’s the same, but you you’d be trading three years of three playoff runs of service time because because you get this playoff run. I don’t necessarily want to do that. I feel like again if you have a like a a not a solid back end of your bullpen, the Twins have a great back end to their bullpen and you could say, “Oh, you could find those guys anywhere.” The Twins can’t find those guys anywhere. Like I don’t I don’t believe this is an organization that just turns out pitching. I don’t think so. Other organizations, sure. If this is the Milwaukee Brewers, I they trade them both because they’re gonna figure it out. I don’t feel that way about the Twins. I don’t know if you guys do. Yeah, I think it’s it’s a good point. it. In theory, you should be able to not maybe find guys that are as dominant as those guys have been, but guys that can at least provide a serviceable back end, but yeah, they haven’t had a ton of Well, maybe I’m wrong cuz they I mean, they turned Perkins into an all-star reliever. That’s a long time ago, but but like 10 years ago, both J and Durant essentially developed in this organization. So, Louis Varlin, I think I think they’ve done actually a pretty good job at turning. Maybe maybe I’m way off. Maybe I’m just, you know, maybe I’m just a little soured on what’s going on this year. But and if if your return in in said trade could be the next potential Joe Ryan acquisition, like like that’s the thing, too. For all that we thought, oh, Dererick F comes from Cleveland. It’s a pitching pipeline. We’re going to have starters, you know, starters after starter after starter. If you look at the amount that they’ve drafted and developed, it’s not like it’s been a lot. So, if your next best thing is, okay, we’re going to trade Don for instance, but we’re going to get, let’s say, three pieces, including a guy that looks like he’s on the precipice of being a rotation guy, and he could be damn good, and we can develop guys, you know? I I think that’s like, as much as I wouldn’t trade Joe and I would lock up Joe, Trev, I think I would probably trade one of those two from the bullpen. Uh, if again, I got the right deal. I’m not giving anyone away, but if I get the right deal, I’d be pretty pretty intrigued by it. Yeah, you don’t you don’t need five high-end relievers, you know, and the Twins kind of have that this year if you can include Koul in that and and you know, his numbers kind of speak to that you don’t need all those guys. So, I I do agree. Maybe I take that back about their lack of ability to develop. I just think like I don’t know, like can you keep counting on that? Maybe you can. I don’t know. Um, the Yankees, the fact that they’re not trading away their number one pitching prospect, there’s no way they need starters. Like, that’s that’s something that that organization needs. That’d be that’d be crazy for them. So, I I mean, if you if you can do that, then go ahead. I don’t I don’t know anything about this guy. Um, 6’7, 250 lbs, according to baseball. I’m already in on him. He’s just my guy. Yeah. Okay, now you’re singing a different tune. By the way, now I’m in. If you’re telling me we got a monster on the mound that’s the the number one starting pitcher. Yeah, go get him. That’s crazy the Yankees would do that. But sure, never seen him pitch before. Uh just just scrolling through his baseball reference. So between high a Carlos Lraange. So between between high A and double A, he has a 13k per nine rate. 13 strikeouts per nine. The uh the walks and the control have been a little bit of an issue. It’s tough to repeat that 6’7, 250 lb delivery, Trev. That’s the problem. But that’s a big boy. That’s not like a Jacob Miserowski long and lanky. That’s a That’s a freaking big boy. That’s a look at the numbers right now. Numbers aren’t great. Overall, he he struggles to throw strikes is I like the strikeout percentage. I do. Yeah. uh total like different note on this because it sounds like Harrison Bader for all the reasons we’ve talked about is a goner here in the next couple days. I’m I’m disappointed not that trading him is the right move because it’s a rental player and you’re you’re not in contention right now. But I feel like it’s going to go down as one of the one of the the biggest like what could have been type like there was a good signing. He’s played out perfectly for this team. Great outfield defense. Uh, his offensive numbers are better than they’ve been in like five years. He’s got that kind of baseball clubhouse personality. He’s he’s a vibe and I feel like they wasted the vibe that is Harrison Bader. Trev in 2025, you know, being around the clubhouse like him and and Paddock have like been like kind of like the leaders of that clubhouse. Like especially with some of the younger guys have done a good job of taking them under their wings. Like I I’ve seen after a day game baiter sit down with the guys and play cards and like not leave the clubhouse and like there’s stuff like that. I mean maybe it doesn’t sound like it means anything but it does like you need to develop camaraderie and and Paddock has done that with some guys. Um and and Beta definitely has as well and yeah like he’s he’s been great for them like you know half show pony half clubhouse leader like he’s he’s done exactly you’re right exactly what they needed him to do. And you know what? He deserves to go. He’s gonna go to the Phillies. That’s what I said. Like, go to the Phillies. Go do your thing. Maybe put him in center. We’ll see if he can do that. But, um, maybe argue with Rob Manfred a little bit. I don’t know if Rob Manfred. They’re both New York guys, aren’t they? Maybe they’d find like the common ground. He might go back to New York. Bader. Yeah. To the Mets, right? Mets or or Yankees? Yeah, probably Mets. Yeah, I want him, too. He’s coveted. Well, he’s a show point. Where where does he rank among like what are your your show pony your what’s your show pony Mount Rushmore up for the Twins? Uh if if you Yeah. Twins that’d be kind of fun. Garrett Jones. Wow. Huge. I mean do you remember what he looked like? Yeah. This wasn’t the first name that would have put doesn’t necessarily mean you’re good at baseball. Even though Garrett Jones had a nice career with Pittsburgh. Yeah, he was a he was a big time prospect. Big time pro. Garrett Jones. Uh Scotty co sleeves off all the time. We all we that no undershirt. We always call him show pony. Um Scotty Alger was a ball guy. Yeah. Just always walking around with that fungo bat, the choker necklace. No one has held more coaching positions with the Twins, I don’t think, in their history. First base, third base, bench coach. Yeah, I always had a great relationship with him. When the rest of that coaching staff would belittle me as a rookie, he didn’t. So, I respect him. I finally won Steve Little over later on in my career because I was nice to his son. But dude, Scotty Alger, when you when first a couple things when you Google image Scotty Elder, glorious baseball mustache from like Vicelia in the early 80s, but then one of the pictures that pops up, it’s like a press conference or something, and he shows up, he’s got like the the overcoat, he’s got the Henley t-shirt with the three buttons undone. He’s got the like the beach kind of choker necklace and then he’s got the black sunglasses above his eyebrows but below his hairline just like resting comfortably on his forehead. Yeah, he’s a badass. So I will I I’ll go so Rushmore’s four, right? So I will go Garrett Jones, Scotty Oler, Joe Benson. Yeah, Joel Benson and and and Harrison Bader baseball spirit animals. I don’t know if I’m putting Harrison Bader on my top Mount Rushmore, although he’s got great style like and he really puts it out there, so maybe I will. He’s always walk around with his chest puffed out. Yeah, those are my four guys. I like it. Hey, uh I actually have a kind of trade deadline vibe question for you, Trev. Uh but Jud, it’s barbecue season. What What are you throwing on the barbecue? What should other people be throwing on their barbecue? Absolutely. One thing, and that is stoked barbecue pellets. Uh the show pony of barbecue. Exactly. Right. You you talk about chop pony. Stoked is absolutely it. A company based and operated right here in our great state. Uh we’re also talking about Stokes Barbecue Caddy. If you are a grill master like Trevor Poof is, the barbecue caddy an absolute must. Stoke solid oak firewood. 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And Park Dental has been a great experience for me the last, I don’t know, two or three, I think it’s three visits now. over 50 years caring for and cleaning teeth in Minnesota and western Wisconsin. You can schedule your checkup at parkdental.com. There’s almost certainly a location within just minutes wherever you live or work. Parkdental.com. Baseball. So Trev, you’ve been in locker rooms uh even like 2012, 2013. Morno got traded, Lariano got traded. Um what what is the vibes is like you’re getting closer to deadline week and I think ino’s case, wasn’t he a waiver claim? So, and they don’t do that anymore with with baseball, the post trade deadline waiver claim. But what is it like when you’re at the week of the trade deadline and you kind of know, hey, we’re we’re definitely sellers. I know I know some of those Twins teams weren’t too hot when you were there, but what’s kind of the vibe like when you you might know that the writing’s on the wall that one of your buddies or teammates is probably be playing for someone else pretty soon? If you’re if you’re a seller, it sucks because you understand like the season’s basically lost or really I mean you could use it as like a rallying cry. Hey, it’s just us now. Let’s go do it. But in in your if you’re smart and you use your brain, you understand like it ain’t happening. So, um that’s kind of the vibe. Like you’re like, dude, we like we we wasted a season. That’s how you feel. you only get so many baseball seasons and to to spend the last two months um of a baseball season kind of knowing you’re not going to make the playoffs. It’s it’s a waste. That’s you like damn I just work so hard off season, spring training, went through a year and doesn’t matter what your stats are if they’re good or bad. You I mean you you work really hard to to to be at the big league level and to waste a season is just it’s it sucks, man. it it’s very very sad day. You’re happy for the guys that get to go play on like good teams. You’re stoked there and maybe there’s a little bit of the young guys been, but hey, I’m going to get an opportunity. So, like there is a silver lining that you could look to. I was a benefactor of that. Uh, for sure. Um, but it’s it’s it’s not it’s not good vibes, dude. and stop. What’s the difference uh between being on a team that you went to spring training and you’re like we’re probably not good and and and then the you know you sort of wait for the trades to come versus what you talked about Trev for this year’s Twins team which was you show up at spring training you’re like this is a good roster like we should be good and you get now to the deadline and it’s like oh this is just a disappointment. What’s the difference between A and B there as a player? I truly think that you go into every season thinking we’re going to be good. I don’t know why it is. I mean I mean I guess 2010 2011 was a little bit different than maybe anything else I uh played with. I we had like legit rosters with like hall of fame guys on it. So 2010 we took care of business. 2011 we stunk when a lot of that’s injury related and uh it just was a a bad bad year. Um, I still was too young to really understand that and I wasn’t with the team enough that year to really understand it. But every other year I went in saying like, I think we got a chance here and it it all it’s when and we we sold pretty much every single year. I don’t think we ever bought when I was with the Twins. I’m trying. What was your What was your last year? The only year was 2010 when we went out and got Matt Caps. That was when I was like, “Okay, we bought.” My last year was 2016 and Brian Fuentes. Don’t put some respect on Brian Fuentes’s dude. I I very much respect Fuentes. That weird little lefty kind of he had that crazy little motion. Kevin Kevin Jeepson in 2015. He was pretty good too actually cuz that 2015 team was all right. You were playing for You were playing came up short, but the last weekend of that season was like competing for a wild card spot. I know. That was great. I mean, Tory Hunter was such a huge part of that. like uh that was that was a lot of fun and I was actually like a player on that team so that you know that was I liked being a part of that. Yeah. I I you bring up like the opportunity that and you had this a couple times where you’re a younger player or you’re not getting as much playing time and all of a sudden all right after July 31st there’s four spots open two in the lineup and two in the bullpen or whatever. Um, and Dex, you could probably speak more to how these guys are actually performing lately at Triple A, but I Edward Julian, Austin Martin specifically are two guys that I I’ I’d love to see a little more of at some point and see if there’s something there. And then I’ll even throw uh Carson McCusker on the list. They called him up for a cup of coffee. Show pony. He’s like 6’8. You called him a show pony when he got called up. just a beast and a monster of a human and he’s had a pretty good years 19 homers in 83 games of 815 Osado Sabato is a former first round pick cuz he’s got the pop. Let’s see these. They still have a ton of players at the big league level. They’re not trading. I I’m curious what they’re going to do with all those guys, man. Yeah. Yeah. Would I like to see Eddie Julian back at the big level to get a shot? Sure. But like Luke Kishel is like going to be ready to play soon. So what do you do with that? And who do you move around? I I I’m like so curious like what the outfield situation ends up shaking out to be. Like what’s Lick’s role on this team? Um Alex Kuroff deciding to just kind of like retire kind of like help that all out. Um but you know, I don’t know. Does Walner just play exclusively against lefties so he gets at bats when it doesn’t really matter so he can do that next year? I they have a lot of decisions after this um after this deadline. I I think you have to treat it as Yeah. like almost not auditions, but like let’s see what we got. Yeah, I really want I mean so I think Keshaw likely comes back and this is awkward but like if they trade Willie Castro that’s going to create the roster vacancy likely for someone like Khaw. Um and then Martin who’s been awesome at Triple A like both him Martin and Keshaw can steal bags. Like I I I know Austin Martin hasn’t really demonstrated a ton of pop in any stops in the minor leagues, but he just gives you a completely different look, which and and look, this team is not fast and really advantageous on the bases. I know Jud was raging up a storm yesterday on Cody Clemens. I was in the press box watching Why are you not moving on the fly ball that’s clearly over the center fielder’s head? Awful. Uh, but I I do want to see even though it might be meaningless baseball getting Keshaw the at bats, Martin the at bats and probably like maybe the last chance for Julian to show them something if he’s going to be part of their long-term plans. But what do we do when it’s Royce, Carlos, Brooks, and Keshaw? Like there’s that’s there’s only three infield spots that those guys are going to play unless you put somebody at first base which doesn’t really seem likely. What do you do? Yeah, it’s it’s it’s an interesting conundrum. Not in that like all of them are on fire and having amazing seasons because Kareah is having probably the worst season of his career and and Brooks Lee’s well Brooks Lee had the uh the one last night, but struggling a lot lately. Uh but you want to see him play. You’re not ben you’re not certainly not benching your $36 million a year centerpiece. And as long as Brooks Lee is up here, like you want to see him play. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think there was some chatter for a minute there that Brooks Lee could go back to AAA when he was struggling, but I don’t know if I want that to happen. He there’s some things he needs to work on in his swing for sure. Like he needs there needs he needs to go work on some bat speed stuff. He needs to work on using his legs. I think the bat to ball skills are there, but power is not there. And you you need to have some pop. You got to have some If you’re going to play a corner infield position, you got to have some pop. Yeah. You got to hit it past the red TE’s. Come on. Can Keshaw play first base at all? He he can. He’s played some there. And And to be honest, they have been very cautious with his arm because he had Tommy John. So, it’s possible. He might judge go play first base. So, why not Luke Kish? Let’s go. Shocked at all. I don’t know. Okay. Because Ty France, Ty France has to go. Like, you either trade France or DFA France. He’s going to be taking up a roster spot that I actually want to see guys play. Like there is no point if you’re done, which is fine, but if you’re done, Tai France is gone as far as I’m concerned. I don’t want him. I I I don’t disagree there. I like Tai as a person. He’s awesome. Um but yeah, I mean, he’s a free agent to be and you have you want to see these guys. I I I could see I could see that happening. Coach Trev, every Tuesday here on the Scor Twin Show. Trev, appreciate you, man. Trade deadline coming up. Very excited. Very excited to see what happens in show ponyism. And you know who didn’t who who didn’t stop and turn around and look in center field as the guy tracked the ball clearly o over his head and watched it. So he had to stop at third base. Trevor Poof didn’t do that. Non-specifically, of course. Yeah. Yeah. I’m just talking about a hypothetical situation. Hypothetic. All right, hit the like button, subscribe, and any other breaking news and trades, we’ll be ready to react to it here on the Scorn Twin Show. Appreciate you guys, and we’ll be talking at you soon.

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