Does Jalen Hurts get enough credit for Philadelphia Eagles success? | THE HERD NFL w/ Colin Cowherd
So, uh, this is interesting. It Mike Sando the Athletic comes out. He’ll be on tomorrow. I love this. I’m obsessed with his quarterback tears. It’s like one of those gifts. I don’t know what day it comes out. Today, I’m driving in and I’m like, “Might as well be Christmas.” I mean, I like I don’t even have to talk about it today, but I led with it. So, he has um this is where NFL executives and I totally agree. in their tears, four tiers. They have Jaylen Herz, ninth, 10th best quarterback. And fans view quarterbacks through the lens of, hey, they win. Well, Trent Diler and Nick Fos have Super Bowl rings and Dan Marino doesn’t. Matt Hasselbeck doesn’t. Matt Hasselbeck is better than Nick Fos by a lot and Trent Dilford. So, GMs are asked to contextualize it. And if it was just about winning for a quarterback, then how did Patrick Mahomes get drafted in the first round? And how did Josh Allen? I watched Josh Allen played two good teams in college, Iowa and Oregon. He got crushed by both. Fans view quarterback. It’s a all about winning. You have as a you’re you’re you’re asked I mean a great stock broker tells you to buy a stock before it’s 140 bucks. He tells you to buy it when it’s 13. Anybody can buy a stock anybody can buy Nvidia now for the next 10 years or Amazon and say I know my stuff. Would you buy Nvidia at nine 26 seven years ago? So Matt Stafford played in the NFL for 12 years and did not win a playoff game. He’s a tier one quarterback and he was Shawn McVeyy’s number one target. So this is not a knock on Jaylen Herz. He’s not as tall as you’d like. He’s about the same size or shorter than Brock Pury. and Brock Pury last week went on a podcast and said 40% of the time I can’t see who I’m throwing to. Tua has said publicly, “Yeah, a lot of times I let go of the ball. I can’t see the receiver.” So, and the other thing is, and this is just so obvious, the Eagles had a by-week. Remember when Tom Brady went to Bruce Arens, they were seven and five and they had a byee. You can break down your offense in that by week and kind of make a major, it’s hard to get off the treadmill week to week to week. But when you get that by week and you get three or four extra practices, Tom Brady goes to Bruce Arens and says, “We’re going to change up the offense.” Last year in the by-week, the people who know him best said, you know, um, we’d be better off throwing less. That’s a tell. So, some quarterbacks in this league are Taylor Swift. They’re leading the entire tour. Most quarterbacks in this league are the Spice Girls. They’re part of an ensemble. Jaylen is part of an ensemble. Of the 50 voters, 50 in the Mike Sando survey, of the 50, three had Jaylen Herz as a tier one quarterback. Okay. It’d be different if it was like 23 and then we could argue, but he was much closer to seventhrounder Brock Pury than Mahomes Burrow and Josh Allen or Lamar. And that’s exactly right. best O line in football, two great receivers, best running back in football, an offensive organization, always above average tight ends, and two easy wins every year with the Giants and relatively easy wins over the Cowboys. So, for the record, I’ve always said this. The difference between the truly great like Mahomes and the and and the good Baker Mayfield, Darnold, what happens when you asked him to carry the team? So, Patrick Mahomes, when he throws over 40 times in his career, that means the Chiefs are either behind or the run game’s not working. Mahomes is 39 and 11. When Jaylen Herz with a great O line is asked to throw 40 times or more, he’s 0 and5. He’s never won an NFL game. Okay, those are also very similar to Dak Prescott’s numbers. When Dak Dak went 13 and three when he had the best own line and he had that great rookie running back, remember out of Ohio State, Ezekiel Elliott, and Zack’s throwing 27 times. Dak was 13 and three. And then all of a sudden, you know, Zeke Ages, they don’t have a number one before Amari St. Amari Cooper. And it’s like, yeah, Dak’s not as good when you ask him to throw 42 times. It’s a different quarterback. So, it’s not a criticism. Again, very few Taylor Swifts, a lot of Spice Girls. You’re just part of an ensemble. You need protection. For the record, last year, Niners beat up at left tackle. Christian McCaffrey didn’t play. I think Pertie was one and six with Kyle Shanahan, one and six against playoff teams. Brock, when he has the ensemble healthy, can be a very effective quarterback. Smart moves, all that jazz. Hour two on a Monday coming up next. Listen, the best roster in the league that doesn’t have the knowledge that they have a really high-end quarterback arguably is Minnesota. I mean, Detroit, great roster. Goff can sling it. Uh, Philadelphia, great roster. We know Jaylen can play. Baltimore, great roster. Kansas City a great roster. Quarterbacks. Uh, Minnesota’s got a great roster. They don’t know if they have the right quarterback. And I the one thing I will say, and I watch JJ McCarthy, I I’ve always said this. I don’t think Michigan like Alabama with Sabin kind of prepared him for the NFL. Always played with a lead. Rarely got hit. Great running game. Didn’t throw a ton. didn’t have to get in shootouts, always had the best coach and roster. I thought he was okay. Um, it does feel like this entire preeason has been about him gaining his confidence. And I think self-doubt is something we all have, but for quarterbacks and surgeons, when you go into the emergency room, I I’m not looking for that. I I need almost a delusional level of playing confidence. Not arrogance, but real confidence. And um you know, I think they’re trying to build them up and I think that’s a that’s a tough spot. It it it it’s a very good roster. Again, it’s it’s it may not be Philly or Baltimore. It’s close. It’s definitely in that Denver area where you’re like not a lot of holes. A lot of maybe miss no number one receiver in Denver. Maybe they’re missing uh you know, I don’t know. Do they have a number one corner in Minnesota? Maybe, maybe not. But they’re not missing much. Here was JJ McCarthy after this weekend’s preseason game. Feel like KO just thought of this as checking another box. Like he really wanted to see the operation and just, you know, the fundamentals and doing the simple things at a high level. And I feel like we did that today. It was a huge kind of growing rep that I felt like, you know, just injects confidence in my veins going to the next one. So there’s there’s a little bit it feels like a little bit of a baby steps process. This is not a baby steps coach. It’s not a baby steps roster. It’s not a baby steps receiving court. This is a Super Bowl roster. Detroit, Philadelphia are Super Bowl rosters. Baltimore, Kansas City, Buffalo, those are Super Bowl rosters. Um I think Minnesota is. And so, you know, I mean, Kevin O’Connell, we already know they were willing to sign Sam Darnold for the right number. So that that that’s that’s pretty obvious. They they now that’s not that has been reported. They told Sam, “Right number, we’ll resign you.” You know, he got 15 more million a year uh or 10 million more a year with Seattle. No state tax in Washington. That’s a good move. Like I Sam should have taken that and be the guy without somebody breathing down his neck. Um but it’s u this is a Super Bowl roster. The other thing I’ve heard a lot about in the reporting by people I think are really good in Minnesota is, you know, everything’s a fast ball. We want to scale that back. We It’s got kind of a Kaepernick feel where it’s like, you know, Kaepernick came in and it was like, I mean, it was like Nolan Ryan. If the breaking ball was off, it wasn’t it wasn’t a good outing. Like we always knew he threw fast. McCarthy’s got he’s got zip on it. Here’s Hasselbeck on that whole tempo and developing an off speed throw. I think what JJ McCarthy has, he’s got the intangibles that you cannot coach. I think you can coach the what club in the bag are you using? I think you can coach that. I’m a I’m someone who would buy on the Minnesota Vikings right now. I think this is a good team. I think this quarterback will have a good year. Um, but certainly the analogy that you used with a young Colin Kaepernick, I think that’s a great example of a guy that um, you know, has a great arm, a very strong arm, can throw a tight spiral, throw it far, but the club’s in the bag is certainly a thing. So, it is it is interesting because he is an often discussed player. Aaron Rogers in the Athletic Poll, if you’re just tuning in, you haven’t watched today. The Athletic um has a 50 person survey annually from Mike Sando.
Colin Cowherd reacts to the latest in NFL preseason news. Does Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts get enough credit for Eagles success? Should Minnesota Vikings quarterback J.J. McCarthy be getting more reps?
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When he says, "that's a tell." We don't agree. You'll have to elaborate for us to pick your argument apart but, he doesn't cause, he doesn't want to drop the ◻️ beeswax
This thread has really brought out the south jersey mouth breathers
Carrying the team means… Throwing the ball……… 😆😂😂🤣. Not to NON ◻️ FANS🤷🏾♂️
Everyone's gonna change their tune when "Hurts so good." 30 for 30 comes out. Especially the so-called sports pundits. 🙄
This feels like push back for Hurts being named the #1 QB in the league by… THE LEAGUES PLAYERS
Jalen has what it takes to win and most of these coaches and exes are losers and they prove it over and over .
Man this has to be clickbaits at this point 😂 the Jalen hate is too much
Where do NFL Players Rank Hurts ?
The NFL is about winning, fantasy football is about stats I would take Mahomes or Hurts before these guys who can’t win a playoff game
Funny how Hurts was voted #3 and #15 in the top 100 and is prob top 20 this year.
So a top player is now the #9 QB according to the media?
Philly fans doing a loooot of crying in here.
What did herm Edward’s say
First argument was 30+ passes then it went to 35+ passes now it’s 40 passes 😂😂😂😂😂 goal post movers…
Same idiot who said Jalen Hurts wasn’t gonna make the RZ in the SB 😂
In my opinion jalen hurts does not get enough credit for what he’s done just my opinion he is amazing QB!!
Jalen played better than Mahomes in two Super Bowls and save for late defensive break downs, he’s 2-0. He wins without throwing 40 times, but keep calling it luck. He loves that.
If Jalen wasn’t a threat to run, Saquon would not have ran for 2k yards. There were so many times where Saquon got another second or two for a lane to open up because defenders had to stand still for a second waiting to see which one of them took the ball. As soon as they start just crashing on Saquon, Jalen took off for 20 yards and kept them honest the rest of the game. He got the Rams on that opening TD on the playoffs and it was a huge play. If Jalen wasn’t such a powerful runner, the Eagles most dominant play wouldn’t work like it does. The entire Eagles offensive identity wouldn’t be the same without his skill set. Going for it on 4th and short is their identity because Jalen can get the short yardage better than anyone, or he can hit AJ on a go ball too.
This is legacy infront of our eyes he's gonna be one of the 🐐 it's tailor made they know he better than all but Mahomes football isn't about metrics and stats it's about the eye test game to game play he's the best QB in the clutch they can't create stats for that they do but it doesn't explain why Jalen wins HURTS is a dog !
For the record, this guy never has a solid take
Patt Mahomes is 6'2. Jalen is 6'1. Why has Jalen outplayed Patt in both Superbowls they played in? How many times is Pat asked to run vs when Jalen runs? Why are we even comparing Jalen to the 🐐? Makes no sense.
Jalen has been to 2 Super Bowls in 3 years, and won one. So, outside of Mahomes, who is better??
I'm honestly glad the media isn't glazing Hurts like they do Mahomes, and honeslty continue to criticize. It's the exact kind of fuel this QB runs on
How good were you at football?? My bad you played in the WNBA😂
Colin swears Darnold is good after 1 good year 🤣
I'm really thankful for guys that don't know ball