[Keith Smith] Bulls are offering Josh Giddey $22M AAV. Giddey wants $30M AAV. Split the difference and go to $25-$26M AAV, right? Feels like this one is close enough that a deal will get signed. Not sure we’re that close with Quentin Grimes or Jonathan Kuminga. QO feeling more and more likely.

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  3. We started at 20 and he wants 30, splitting the difference would be 25/yr. We are moving up and he’s not moving. This should be a 4/100 deal if one of them just jumps to the middle and says final offer

  4. 25 seems reasonable if his production stays close to what it was after Zach was traded. I think that’s kinda what everyone figured it would end up around. But at the same time, there really isn’t any reason for the Bulls to budge. The market has determined what Giddey’s worth is, and if he really feels like strongly about it, he should take the QO and hit free agency next year.

  6. Only way I’m offering Giddy $25 million is with incentives. $20 million is the correct number anything more is a bad contract.

  7. “split the difference” is so casually stated as an obvious solution in any negotiation. A very dumb and pointless premise.

    Here, the middle has nothing to do with anything. The number is just each side’s estimation of the value of the player AND the value of the alternative to a deal: Qualifying Offer year followed by true free agency.

    If the Giddey camp wants $30M in an extension, that indicates that they estimate they can play for the $11M QO this year and get at least $36m/year for three years to still end up at the same 4yr/$120M deal they’re negotiating.

    I don’t know nearly enough, but I’m also not ignorant to the cap and free agency…I would be willing to bet A LOT of money that Giddey will NOT get $36M/yr in free agency next year if he doesn’t sign a deal this summer.

    TL;DR – I think the Bulls offer of $22M/yr is, by the numbers, already WELL past the breakeven “split the difference” number. Their offer is reflective of a player they want to keep, but aren’t willing to pay more than his market value. The Giddey team is looking for FAR above market value.

  8. I’d be good with 26m. More than I’d like to pay Giddey but there’s absolutely a chance that that valuation looks like a steal down the line. If he is firm on 30m…I don’t love the odds of that same outcome but I would still rather have that than rolling the dice on the QO. Giddey has flaws but 30m is really not *that* much in the modern NBA. Not enough to hamstring a team and it will look like less with each passing year. He has two elite skills (passing and rebounding) and most players don’t even have one.

  10. Sounds to me like the sports media aren’t interested in covering us in any detail and are requesting a quick resolution.

    No reason that we should take this suggestion

  11. You people are delusional man 25 mil is a more than fair contract and you still got people in here acting like hes not by far your best player putting up 20 point triple doubles every other night saying hes only worth 20m. Hope he just takes the qualifying and goes somewhere that actually values his talent.

  12. If the Bulls refuse to move up from $22M, I would understand Giddey deciding to bet on himself and taking the QO. However, Giddey sticking on $30M isn’t realistic. I agree with Kevin Smith though. They should figure this out and compromise.

  13. Imagine trying to build around a guy but not paying him an average wage or one that he probably deserves and haggling over 2-3 million. Not much faith there

  14. Please do not pay 30 million for a guy who last team immediately won a championship after replacing him

  15. 25 is the most I would pay, if he wants more than that he’s just a usurper, in which case just a trade

  17. Just pay him league min and then pay him the rest to not show up to a meet and greet or something. Easy.

  20. This is one of those situations where let’s say Giddey leaves for another team, I could care less. That’s how unimportant and directionless this upcoming season is. Just give Noa and Matas 45 min a game and tank.

  21. If it’s $25 million AAV, they should be doing a 5 year deal. I’d be cool with $27-28 million even if this is a 5 year deal.

    The Bulls would get that extra year.

    The Bulls only did 3 year deals with Coby and Ayo and now they are due for raises. You have to max out the longevity of these deals, even if you give them a higher salary.

    Obviously, there’s a risk like PW, but PW was an absolute huge overpay. Giddey seems like a way better bet.

  22. Let’s put it this way.

    The team gave Patrick “Tyrus Thomas 2.0” Williams $18 schmill a year for five years after averaging 10/4/1.5 (basically career averages).

    Giddey just averaged 14/8/7 (also basically career averages).

    When he signed that deal this sub said “it’s not that bad, he’s still young and can improve” and all that BS. Very few people balked at it also stating “that’s just the market”

    Now people are complaining that a player who is arguably at least twice, if not three times as valuable of a player should get $20-22 million/year?

    No way am I saying that he should be paid 2-3x as much. I would go as high as $25-26 million, maybe slightly more if needed. He’s also 22 years old which is basically the same age PWill signed his extension.

    At some point you have to pay some young, TRULY promising players a decent amount if we want to move forward. Otherwise it’s going to continue to be the Reinsdorf special of overpaying older “stars” and saying their going to rely on the young players because they like them a lot (but look at where that’s gotten us for how many years).

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