BROWNS FINALLY SIGN QUINSHON JUDKINS
All right, so somewhat breaking news here. The Browns have finally signed Quinn Sean Junkkins, their second round pick. This is another step, and I want to be clear on that. It’s another step. This does not mean that this is over or that we’re done dealing with the off the- field situation. Um, but one step that to be honest I felt like should have been taken care of in the summer has finally been taken care of before week one at least. The Browns have signed Quinn Sean Junkkins to his normal um it looks like his normal second round deal. Right now the big question with the fully guaranteed it was always going to be fully guaranteed. The question is, is the clause in there if Quinn Sean gets suspended where the guaranteed money goes away or can be voided if the Browns choose to do so? That’s what the battle was about, right? The contract was always going to be fully guaranteed. That’s just what happens with rookie pay scale contracts, especially in the first three rounds or first two rounds. The big question was, was this contract going to have the clause in it where you can void it because of a suspension? A lot of contracts have that, especially with players who have a history of suspension in the past. Whenever you hear a agent in a team debating about language, this is usually the language that they’re debating. So, that’s the big question. Right? Now, I know people are saying guaranteed thinks that answers a big question of it. That doesn’t really answer the big question, right? The big question is if the NFL does hand down a suspension with Quinn Sean, um, does that change the Browns ability to handle his contract and his guarantees going forward? We don’t really have an answer on that as far as I can tell. I’ve been trying to search around and see if anybody has any insight to this. Um, but I haven’t been able to figure it out. I’m literally looking right as we go on and I’m not seeing anything. So, there’s that. The contract is signed. Now, what’s Quinn Sean’s legal situation? How is this going to play out? All of this stuff. Well, let’s talk about that as well because it’s a huge part to this whole Quinshan Juckens um saga. Now, per Ian Rapaort, and I’ll put this up on screen here, the Cleveland Browns are signing second round running back Quinn Sean Junkkins to his fully guaranteed deal. Sources say all draft picks are now under contract. Quinn Shai Junkkins legal situation um is behind him. No charges were filed though a NFL is still conducting an investigation. Now there’s a big question here with the NFL conducting its investigation. The fact that Quinn Sean Juckkins has not had any camp uh to kind of get prepared. Obviously, he’s not going to be ready for week one. What does that mean in terms of his roster spot? Well, we found out more information on this. This was something I was concerned about because I’m like, “Hey, if Quinshan signs before week one, you’re going to have to cut somebody because he’s going to be on your roster, but he’s not going to be able to play. So, how do you handle that?” Apparently, there are rules that help the Cleveland Browns in this kind of a situation, and those are the rules the Browns are going to try to seek out. This is per Tom Pelisero who says the Browns are expected to get so this is not just they’re seeking they’re expected to get a temporary exemption for running back Quinn Sean Junkkins who is signing a fully guaranteed contract. This is unrelated to the league’s ongoing disciplinary process and it’s standard for players who miss camp and can last up to two games. So basically, there is an exemption rule in place for the Browns that can help them out if the NFL grants it to them. And it looks like the NFL is expected to grant it to him. Nothing about this situation seems like the NFL won’t grant it to him. Seems like what this rule was for. And what this rule is for is for a situation like Quinn Sean Junkkins. You have a draft pick, there’s a hold out for whatever reason that lasts throughout camp. You finally get the deal done before the season starts. but that player is not going to be ready to go because of the hold out for the first couple weeks of the season. So, you as a team aren’t going to be charged a roster spot for having that player signed for at least a couple of weeks while that player ramps up. It’s kind of similar to the ramp up period um at the end of a suspension. You guys remember when Deshawn got suspended, he was like not coming back to like week 11, but I think around week eight, he was allowed to practice again and gradually ramp back up. This is an expedited version of that, right? Where he doesn’t count on the roster, but he can practice, he can participate um in these things. So, that’s one huge part of this. Again, I don’t want to throw a parade, right? Cuz the Browns signed their second round pick. Um, but this is a huge part of this that really should have been done during the summer for whatever reason. Whether it’s the agents, whether it’s Andrew Barry’s fault, uh, this this thing, I think both sides of this should have got this done a long time ago because regardless of if Quinn Sean Junkkins gets suspended or not now, he’s going to miss like two games and that’s just a disaster, right? It’s not a failure. It doesn’t make the pick a failure automatically, but it is the worst possible start to his NFL career possible. And if you’re Andrew Barry and you selected this guy in the top 40, you used one of the picks, you got in the Travis Hunter trade for him, you clearly believe in this kid to be a gamechanging player for you. This kind of start to his career does him a disservice. It does you a disservice. If you’re Quinshan Judkins, if you’re his agent, this does nothing but you two disservice, right? Again, you still could be suspended. You’re going to miss two games because you have to ramp up. Who won here? Nobody won in this contract situation. This is just a poorly handled situation. Um, and look, I don’t know who’s more responsible. I’m not in the rooms, but all I can say is I know Andrew Barry’s involved. I know Quinn Sean Judkins is involved. I know his agent is involved. All three of them, this is not a good situation. This is a poor situation. And this is a situation that didn’t have to be this way. Yes. Is it super unfortunate for the Cleveland Browns that Quinn Junkkins surprised them by getting into this domestic violence situation? Is it something that Quinnshan should have avoided being in in the first place? if he doesn’t get in this trouble, if he finds a way to not have these kind of accusations against him, if if it was avoidable or not, I don’t know. But if he can find his way out of this kind of trouble and not be involved in this, not have this case take up time um in his life, take up energy in his life, yes, he would be better off and none of this would have happened. But after this thing happened, how this was handled by everybody involved, I can’t say it’s good, right? It’s the one black mark in this whole off seasonason. We’ve been talking about it. The vibes have been better in the offseason. It’s been feeling like the Browns are moving on the right track. The only thing that makes you go, damn, h I don’t know about that one is this situation right here, right? The Quenshan Jkins situation. Um, it’s the one black mark in this entire off season. And I can’t say confidently that this has been handled well. This has been handled to my liking. We got a second round pick here who’s not going to play in the first game of the year, who’s not going to play in the second game of the year and might get suspended after that. If you’re Quinn Sean, you might have extended your suspension. Hell, what if you don’t get suspended? You held out all this time and you missed two games. What did you miss those two games for? Right? The NFL is not going to give him time serve, by the way. Maybe they consider that, maybe they don’t. But if you’re going into this thinking, well, Quinshan’s gonna miss the first two games. Um, even though he’s gonna get paid for those games, even though um and part of suspension is not getting paid those games, that the NFL is going to go, “Oh, okay. Well, we were going to suspend him four games. Now we’re just going to do two.” Maybe that happens, but it’s not very likely. The most they can suspend him for is what, six games. So, if they go for the maximum here and then he misses two games, it’s half the season almost. Again, this is not how you wanted this guy’s career to start. And again, I understand unforeseen circumstances. You didn’t expect this popping up. Maybe even Quinnshan didn’t expect to get in this kind of trouble um in July, right? Like that. That’s entirely possible. How everything was handled after the fact is what I’m criticizing. I’m not criticizing this situation for existing. I’ve already done that, right? What I’m criticizing is how this situation was handled after it already existed. I don’t think the Browns should have got him into camp. I don’t know what the hold up here was, but the Browns should have got him in the camp. It’s a rookie contract. There’s not that much negotiate. Just get the guy into camp because if he’s not going to get suspended, you want him ready. If he’s not going to be suspended week one, you want him ready. You want to get him ready. You want to get his career started on the right foot. The Browns should have did what they needed to do to get him in camp. And if you’re Quinn Sean’s agent, you got to understand the guy is going through a situation that’s pretty unique for a second round pick. And you can’t be trying to play hard ball right now. Like both of y’all should have figured this out in July and now this player’s put in the bad situation. The team’s not put in the greatest situation. Um, and now Quinn Johnson spent a whole year trying to catch up on the two months that he left out. And it’s a damn shame that he even got in this trouble in the first place because before all of this broke out when you were hearing about OTAAS and mini camps, people were in the building talking about Quinn Sean as if he were Nick Chub, right? You see all the praise Carson Swissinger’s getting. You see all the praise Mason Graham’s getting. There’s a good chance that if Quinn Sean plays in the preseason, plays during training camp, he’s in that spot. But this situation was a failure. how this situation was handled was a failure. That’s only one part of this. The contract signed now. Now we can focus on what he does in his career as a Cleveland Brown. But I can’t help but be disappointed that his career has gotten off on this wrong of a foot. And look, the situation existing, that is one thing. And obviously that is unacceptable if he is guilty of what he’s been accused of. But on top of that situation existing, how that situation was handled by the team, can’t say I endorse it, right? Can’t say I thought it was a great way to handle it. He should have been in this building. They should have just dealt with this a long time ago. Now it’s week one. We’re talking about roster exemptions, so he can’t play a couple of weeks. Basically, putting him on a list um and then seeing if he gets suspended. Now, you can very realistically get him on a ramp up period. He gets ready. He’s ready to play in two weeks for week three and then the NFL drops a suspension. Like I don’t know if the Browns were waiting on the NFL to drop a suspension or if Quinn Sean was wait. Either way, I don’t really care how it happened. The the sequence of events that resulted in your 40th pick, your top 40 pick not signing until literally the day before the first game of the season is a failure. doesn’t mean people need to be fired. It doesn’t mean that I think everybody sucks. It doesn’t mean that I think Quinn Sean’s going to stink. But it does mean in this situation, in a vacuum, I don’t like it. That’s my thoughts on this. Let me know your thoughts in the comments section down below. Everybody have a great day. Have even better night. Peace.
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46 comments
Q you are speaking out of school again . The NFL is also involved so you don’t know how it’s handled on their side. It’s disappointing but we don’t have the information to make a full judgement. It’s also only been two weeks since his case got dismissed.
So what is the NFL waiting for, it happened 2 months ago? These missed weeks should count towards his suspension.
The most unfortunate part is that he keeps getting painted as a horrible person and there is talk of the young ladies story being false.
What if this situation results in having Rocket Sanders instead of Pierre Strong, and he turns into a good player as well?
Glad they got it done and I'm looking forward to eventually seeing Quinshon and Dylan in the backfield. The rest of the NFL and legal stuff will just have to play out.
Just glad it’s resolved. Time to move on and focus on winning
They gave Josh Gordon time served
I wonder if this means Jerome Ford is gone. I'd keep Rocket over Ford.
How does a man keep himself out of a domestic violence situation when he is not the aggressor??? Apparently, a man being around his woman is putting himself in a DV situation given that he cannot prevent her from falsely accusing him of DV.
The NFL is fine combing this whole damn thing. They're just punishing the team at this point.
JUD-KINS
Henderson >>>
u lucky u aint been falsey accused of sht
I would have traded him. He should have signed in the summer and apologized to the Browns for being a jerk. I am sssoooo tired of Browns players being asses.
Does anyone know if he's been working out? Like at a high school / college?
The Browns have No Fault at all,, this is totally on the player for even putting himself in that situation,, the Browns didn’t do that ,, Judkins has a lot to learn
He would of been signed months ago if he didn’t beat his girlfriend… if i were the browns I would of done the same thing man
Before anyone lambasts Judkins, might want to think about the admitted fake gang rape allegations against the duke lacrosse players. The media–especially 60 minutes–made these innocent duke players life a living hell before accuser admitted she lied. A lesson about rushing to judgment.
It’s not Junkins!
Q, we don't know what happened behind the scenes. I believe one possibility is it took time for judkins to settle with the accuser. If so, perhaps accuser won't cooperate with NFL & NFL investigation goes away. If so, browns were smart to let it play out, I believe
How can it be a failure no handling it earlier if the NFL and the team doesn't know for sure what he did. For all they know he coulda faced some jail
It is about damn time lol
Wrong Quincy,
Quishon did Quishon a disservice to the start of his career.
Is anybody gonna tell me why the host look like Sal from Impractical Jokers in blackface
My take Quin did the hard thing shut his mouth went to lockup let his Lawyer do his talking avoided trial and jail Inteligent self-disciplined. NEVER TALK TO THE COPS anything you say can and will be used against you easy to say hard to do.
We come out punching and go 1-0, this season will be fun
About dam time!
They didn't get it done before because the League would have suspended with pay pending completion.
I'd bet this was all very very intentional – he misses camp because Browns don't let him sign until they know they can get the exemption.
Sign now – misses first game… maybe second… League finalizes and hands out suspension, maybe 2 games, and his two misses may be counted.
I dont agree that its unlikely the misses won't be counted.
I really bet this was all intentional and calculated.
Judkins screwed up end of story.
Hey Q … with all due respect Brother, and I love your channel by the way, how can you make the statement that it was handled inproperly? There is so much that goes on, especially in a situation like this, for a GM to make a decision on how to handle this. For instance, what if the the NFL requested that Berry hold-off on signing him per their investigation? What if the NFLPA had something to do with the delay in signing, not just Judkins' agent. None of us are GMs or work in a NFL GMs office … so how can anyone comment on it saying that it wasn't handled properly. Much respect Brother.
Q maybe this was agreed upon between the browns and League that if we didn't bring him into camp and they would give us his two week period exemption. Which they would maybe end up counting it in lieu of a suspension as punishment?
Last bit reminded me why I stay subbed here. Very reasonable criticism without being reactionary or dramatic. Doesn’t implicitly endorse domestic abuse. Doesn’t assume gross incompetence or malicious intent. It was a single, isolated incident that was handled poorly on all sides.
Completely unwarranted criticism. We have no idea what has transpired between the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, Quinshon's representation, and law enforcement. Until we know any of that, which we may never know, anyone's opinion is just speculation.
Why do some people say he shouldn't have put himself in that spot in the first place. Were you there? How do you know the woman didn't attack him? If you think women never assault men you need to leave your cave once in a while. Nobody really knows who the guilty party really is, so stop making assumptions.
Brooooo his name is Judkins! Not Junkins. Let’s wait to see if he’s garbage, then we can call him Junkins
Judkins has not been charged.
So what's the story about?
Ok young man you have a new fan. Your the first I heard that spoke logical about everything. Bravo
This falls on Andrew Berry totally! He knew the running back was in shambles the reason you took . rb's in the draft. AB, let Nick Chubb walk out the door to Houston, who AB has rebuilt that whole team with the Watson debacle. Q won't be suspended all of this snafu was before Judkins was signed. If the Browns finish with a terrible record they would be fools to let AB make the draft picks in 2026. The success of Baker Mayfield's career just tell you that the Browns bungled that players career!
Ok, now he signed, let's focus on him and the team. Somebody will axe him about the pats. Thank god Junkins didn't sign wiff the Jagwires.
How did the Browns mishandle this situation? The Browns essentially told us weeks ago that theyre going into the 2025 season with or without Quinshon Judkins. 2nd round rookie, sure. But at the end of the day he hasn't stepped foot on the field or done nothing for the Browns yet so with all due respect: who the f*ck are you Quinshon? Ain't no damn Nick Chubb & we ain't gonna treat you as such. The fate of this season doesnt rest on his shoulders, & he got himself into this situation. Browns are playing tomorrow, Quinshon Judkins is not. Cleveland don't owe him nothin so I dunno how the Browns somehow "mishandled" this. They told us exactly what it was
He is not Nick Chubb…Nick has high morals….and high standards
Whatever, he's signed now let's do damage Go Browns!!!
Not as bad as your making it Q it’s 2games when he was going to be suspended ANYWAY
All due respect, I think there is a lot more to this story we don’t know and is none of our business so I would think a better way to put it would be that it “looks bad”. Personally, having been in a situation myself relationship wise that looked bad from the outside but I was 100% innocent. I don’t know his story but I do know that people get wrongfully accused sometimes and it can be a brutal process. The Browns did the stand up thing, they weighed the pros and cons and decided better to let the busy bodies and yentas do what they do, respect Quinshon’s privacy and just let the guy come in and go to work.
if he was not under contract how can the NFL suspend him when he wasn't in the NFL at the time?
What's next, suspending players for High School miscues?
Actually glad we not seeing him in this 1st game