I’d understand any concern if in a few months our offense looks the same. And I know people might’ve hit the panic button because on the surface we didn’t look much different than the past few years and in each of those years we never improved. It’s hard to hope for something different when you’re still being shown the same thing.
But over the past few years we also haven’t had a coach on the offensive side of the ball with the smarts, experience and leadership of McDaniels (I know we had BoB, but I don’t put his offensive mind on the same level as McDaniels).
If I’ve seen anything from McDaniels over the years it’s 1)his offenses sometimes take a month to get into shape and 2)we’re not going to see the same thing next week and the week after because his game plan for the offense can be completely different depending not the team we’re playing. You think we’re going to pass 46 times again? Probably not. Is he going to try the exact same screen plays? No. But then again, he might if he’s seen something that makes him realize okay it didn’t work against team A, but it might work against B. How many times have we started a season where the screen passes look useless but then by the playoffs they’re hugely effective? Maybe I’m wrong but I think whatever we saw from sunday of McDaniels is still him getting an idea of who he has and what works best given the personnel. And over the course of the month I expect him to continue trying and testing things out. And it might not look pretty at times. But when did we ever care about how Tom’s offense looked in September?
I also included 2008 with Cassel and 2022 with Carr for reference.
17 comments
Sure if we’re also not going to pretend that his offenses without Tom Brady have been dogshit besides like 4 or 5 weeks in 2021 when they played defenses like Urban Meyer’s Jaguars who’s coach was literally kicking their players while they were down.
I think the team will look better running the ball as the season goes on. The offensive line, if healthy, can only learn from its mistakes.
In terms of the passing game, it isn’t on McDaniels if Maye overthrows receivers. Maye needs to take advantage of the opportunities he has. He can make mistakes. The best QBs to ever play won games making them. But they can’t go on quarter after quarter.
It’s all good. If Drake starts to feel it, he will raise up everyone with him. Live and die by the QB.
Josh is just not good at his job. He’s running an outdated offense that doesn’t take advantage of our QB’s skillset (we ran I believe 10 screens and 0 passes farther than 25 yards), and Vrabel is a coward who refuses to go for fourth downs despite us having a 6’4″ 230lb extremely mobile QB. Josh doesn’t even spam the good spread offense play types. We are running a very condensed offense while having very little speed from our skill position players (outside of Henderson).
It didn’t even really “work” with Brady, it’s just that Brady is a top 5 offense onto himself. If his first year in Tampa Bay was any indication, we should have been throwing the ball down the field WAY more with him in his prime. He was literally the best deep passer in the league while he was in Tampa… in his fucking 40s.
Yeah but the GOAT could rip off 10 straight wins going into January. This team needs to get dubbs at home against non playoff teams.
You know what, I’m going to choose to believe this with every fiber in my being.
McDaniels was around .500 with a washed Cam Newton and Mac Jones.
If we can’t get it done its Maye. That said you draft great players and play to their strengths and they are not doing that
The copium is strong
Not to mention the Patriots struggled in September a lot of times during the Brady years.
4/5ths of our starting line is new players, 4 of our 6 active receivers are new players, we have a new RB, we have a new OC which in turn means a new system, and we have a new coach. Not to mention, and perhaps the biggest thing to note, our starters had the equivalent of two bye weeks. From game 2 of preseason to yesterday. We threw 14 passes TOTAL, and that was that. Reps and hard practice matter. And not just us either, so many teams played about or even worse than we did yesterday – teams like the Seahawks, 49ers, Texans, and Lions. Reality is, we won’t know who this team really is until about midway through the season.
I mean sure, the difference is we were never worried whether or not Tom was a legit NFL QB or if he’d ever “figure it out”. A young and still pretty raw QB prospect is another story.
You talk about this guy like he hasn’t been an utter failure in every capacity and every situation without Tom Brady as his quarterback
If he continues to run the same outdated dink and dunk EP offense that he ran on Sunday (and throughout Brady’s career and the Mac year) for the rest of the year, then this will be very hard to watch .
There’s also one fewer preseason game to prep
This is my current cope as well. McDaniel offenses take awhile to get going and it’s been said verbatim that it takes time to find what they’re good at.
However I’m only giving them to Week 4. If we’re 2-2, ok. If it’s worse than that, we’ve got problems.
The problem with the offense wasn’t the play calling necessarily. It was the execution by players on the field. The offensive line looked better than last year. The problem is that too many players made too many damn mistakes. How many would-be catches were totally missed?
And then defense didn’t do the best but also not the worst. We just don’t have the best cornerbacks in the league anymore. And they were getting destroyed by the receivers on the Raiders.
The whole team looked sloppy as a group.
My god a reasonable and level headed take on the patriot sub reddit. What has the world come to