The Sixers Just Found A SOLUTION To The Quentin Grimes Situation…

We are just a few weeks away from Sixers training camp and there is still no resolution with the Quinton Grimes situation. However, a solution is coming soon. We’ll talk about what that is, how it affects the roster moving forward, but ultimately what the Sixers should do in this specific situation. All that and more coming up right here on Philly Take with RB. But welcome into the show. Do me a favor, hit that thumbs up, hit that sub, and hit that notification bell because we’re about to be back in the swing of things, man. I can’t wait for the live shows to begin. Training camp coming up. It’s going to be a lot of fun. But man, this has been one of the craziest offseason situations I’ve ever seen. The RFA market, the gap has literally been squeezed so much and we’ve talked about it for the last three months and still Quinton Grimes is not signed. However, Cam Thomas finally starts the domino effect. The other day, Cam Thomas signs a one-year, $6 million qualifying offer to return to the Brooklyn Nets. Sides were unable to reach a new deal. So, the qualifying offer gives Thomas a full no trade clause and 2026 unrestricted free agency with 10 plus cap space teams. So, Cam Thomas bet on himself. He said, “You know what? like I’m gonna take the chance. Hopefully I don’t get hurt. I had a really good season and I just can’t come to an agreement with the Nets. So, this will be my last year with them. He’s already one foot out the door and this is a real possibility for all of these restricted free agents. Just to give you a quick summary, if we go back, you know, the teams really didn’t spend that much in free agency. There weren’t a lot of teams with cap space. So these RFAS already got their heads squeezed as it was as it begun. But then after time went on, teams realized, hey, if the other teams with RFAS are not going to pay them, then we have leverage too because we don’t have to pay guys. So it seems like all these guys, Cam Thomas, Josh Giddy, Quinton Grimes, Jonathan Kaminga could end up being screwed in a similar situation. But I can’t be mad at the teams for trying to be smart about their cap sheet, especially when we see teams like the Thunder and the Pacers and how they’re winning things like that. Sham says that Thomas becomes the first restricted free agent to land on a deal among the final RFAS. Thomas averaged 24 points, 3.8 assists, and 3.3 rebounds in 25 games last season. So, we are going to take a look and compare Cam Thomas and Quinton Grimes and talk about what’s going to happen with Grimes. But I actually want to get the people involved and I want you to let me know down below cuz we talked about this a lot. What do you think is the final result or the final outcome for Quinton Grimes? What do you think the number is that the Sixers are going to pay him? Will they pay him a multi-year deal or will they end up in a similar situation like this? I’m going to give you my thoughts on the other side. Let me know down below. But before we do that, I got to give a shout out to the great sponsor of the show this upcoming season, and that is Sleeper. Ladies and gentlemen, you’ve probably heard about Sleeper, but listen, they are a fantasy sports and real money gaming app that is changing the landscape. They are the fastest organic growing fantasy platform in the world as of 2023 with over 6 million active users. But they’re a one-stop shop for all your needs. you know, fastest scores, news updates, all that in real time. You can do fantasy, right? You probably do your fantasy football league there. I stand by that. They’re the best. But you can also make picks in contests and win real money. 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Well, an anonymous executive on the Quinton Grimes contract situation said, quote, “Why would you spend 20 million on Quinton Grimes when you can get Gary Trent Jr. for a minimum?” I think that is a little bit disrespectful to Quinton Grimes. Grimes is way younger, had a better season than Gary Trent. Trent’s more of like a a role player, and maybe Grimes is as well, but Grimes showed you things in his bag at the end of last season where it’s like, all right, maybe he can take the step and be that guy. When we think about the reports that have come out this off season. Is Grimes worth 25 million? No. Is he worth 22 million? No. And this is why it was so funny going back and forth with a lot of the fans where I said, “Look, the Grimes thing is going to be played out. you might as well sign Yabellle and then figure the Grimes thing out later. And everybody said, nah, well, we need Grimes. We need to save money under the second apron for Grimes. And I was like, look, man, I just it’s going to be tough. It’s going to be tough. For example, they’re $10 million under the first apron, and they’re about 22 million under the second apron. They’re willing to go into the first apron, but they don’t want to go into the second apron because of the harsh penalties and things like that. So, really, they need to stay under that $22 million mark. But when you think about everything that’s happened this off season and you think about these other free agents, right, and Giddy’s not getting paid and Thomas isn’t getting paid. Well, the Sixers are going there saying, “Well, why should we shell out $20 million to Quinton Grimes when we may be able to get that number down to 10 or 12 or 14?” So, I agree with the approach from the Sixers, but as I mentioned before, where it starts to get a little sticky is how far do you take that? We’re a couple weeks away from training camp and Grimes still has not inked a contract. And we’ve seen with the business side, these players, these agents are willing to go as far as it’ll take them. So, all right, maybe you meet Grimes at the 14 or $15 million mark, but it took all this time and maybe now he’s annoyed and he’s pissed off that it went this far. So, with Cam Thomas taking this qualifying offer, I feel like it really just set the precedent and the rest of these guys are probably going to follow suit. Maybe one of these players like a Josh Giddy will end up signing a multi-year deal. But when we look at Grimes and we look at Cam Thomas, like they had pretty similar seasons. Here’s Cam Thomas, a first round pick back in 2021. Actually, a couple picks right after Quinton Grimes. If we look at Cam Thomas, he averaged 24 points a game. He averaged almost four assists per game and he shot about 35% from three, about 34 and a.5% for his career. So, a pretty good season from Cam Thomas on a really bad team, by the way. And if we look at Quinton Grimes, also first round pick 2021. Like I said, he had a really good year and got so much better with Philadelphia. But you have to take into account the situation like how much of that was him playing with G-League guys around him and just being the guy and can he be that solidified role player if your big stars like Joel Embiid and Paul George do return to the floor. So, the Sixers are looking at this and they’re going, “Man, do we really want to pay Quinton Grimes, you know, 18 20 million a year. Obviously, the value of the contracts are appreciating year-over-year and the salary cap is going up. But you think about this team, you have Tyrese Maxi and Jared McCain, who you invested in in the draft. You have now VJ Edgecomb. How many guards can really fit on this team?” Sure, you can look at a team like OKC and, you know, they’re guard heavy and they have all these young quick athletic guys, but a lot of them are on rookie contracts. They’re going to have to make decisions when the time comes. And if you think about a guy like Quinton Grimes, you’re already having to pay him now after half a season of looking like he really took that step. So, you have to take all of it into consideration. What will his role be with the Sixers? Will he play a primary guard role? I think there is a spot for him on this team. But when I think about, you know, $18 million a year, is it worth it? The Sixers are still going to need forward help. They’re still going to eventually have to figure out what to do with this Joel Embiid and Paul George situation. 67 million player option in 2028. You have Paul George who’s making 55 plus the next couple years. And you know, you still have those contracts on the books. So, is it worth it to sign Grimes to that amount? Or should they go with a one-year qualifying offer that would give them a full no trade clause? Grimes might not be that happy, but he can then go test the waters again next off season. And when I think about all this together, I’m starting to think that’s a better idea for Quinton Grimes. Grimes probably wants to cash in right now, but when you think about it overall, I mean, the money’s just not there. The teams don’t have that type of money to spend. they don’t want to spend it and they have some leverage now in this situation. So, it’s starting to feel like next year could be the big free agency year and you know, Grimes and Kaminga and these guys have to hope that they can play out this season and have career years and cash in next off season. Grimes could look at it and say, “Well, I might not get the ball as much this year. I might not have the type of staff reduction and that could hurt my free agency next year. So maybe it is smarter to take a little less money per year but for 3 or 4 years. And the fact that we are in September now and this still has not been resolved is very concerning. In a couple weeks, if this does not get inked, I think things could get very ugly. As Jake Fischer said last week, Grimes seems more likely to resign on a short-term contract. I do not think we’re getting any resolution in July for Quinton Grimes. Well, now it’s September, by the way. They want him at a very strong number. My latest understanding is Grimes, in a similar capacity to Kaminga and Cam Thomas, will seem likely to be signing a short-term agreement with Philadelphia. So, I’m not mad at that from a Sixers standpoint. Like I said, I think the Sixers are going to need more help at the four and the five over the next year, and tying up all of their money on guards is probably not the best idea. We’ll see how it all plays out, man. Give me your thoughts down below. How do you feel about the Quinton Grimes situation? What do you think the outcome will be? What should the team do? Give me your thoughts down below. Appreciate everybody for tapping in. Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe. And as always, I will catch you on the next one.

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The Sixers are a few weeks away from training camp and the Quentin Grimes situation is still unsolved. However, a solution is coming soon. The first domino has fallen after Cam Thomas signed his qualifying offer with the Brooklyn Nets. Will the Sixers take a similar approach with Grimes? This could have some serious impact on the roster moving forward, from both a fit and financial perspective. Today, we discuss it all!

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22 comments

  7. Grimes is full of himself, dude has been a backup to backup and is asking to be paid like a championship piece. We don't even need him with the youth we have at guard. Sign-and-trade is the best possible scenario for everyone.

  8. I think the sixers shot themselves in the foot. I believe that they should’ve paid Yabusele and passed on grimes. I know that ppl dislike that idea but we have a plethora of guards we don’t need another one.

  17. Cam plays no defense. There is no competition on his team for his role. Grimes DOES have competition! Will not have the opportunity to show off this year and sell himself next year!😮

  18. RB, you continue to be wrong about Yabu.
    If Morey even offered part of the 5.685 M t-MLE for Yabu, Grimes would have been gone, because the Sixers wouldn't be able to match an offer sheet at a certain price.

    Even today, Morey won't use any of the t-MLE now or even the cheapest minimum contract, because he has to stay as much below the 2nd Apron as possible, in order to sign Grimes (and leave some wiggle room to operate for the rest of the season).

    The same situation is going on with Kuminga right now. Jonathan is preventing the Warriors from hardcapping themselves by signing Al Horford using the t-MLE.
    Fortunately for the Warriors, Horford never considered another team, so he can wait.

  20. I'm not even taking into consideration a one-year deal for Grimes. Sixers and Sixers fans need to start appreciating real talent whilen its in your hands

  21. Why can't sixers make a conditional signing for Grimes, this year the sixers pay a salary that fits the team and next year Grimes gets his asking price if his all around game deserves it.

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