How would Stephen Ross deal with the Miami Dolphins completely falling apart?

Here are some of the questions. This is from David Furonus in the Suns Sentinel. Here are some of the questions he does a Dolphins Q&A and one of the questions he gets. The first one, should the Dolphins fire McDaniel and Greer after the Buffalo loss in 10 days? Greer needs to be gone just as much as Mike. There’s a emailer assuming they’re going to lose against Buffalo. Uh, Furonus responds, “The hot seat both McDaniel and Greer Aron was without question the story of the season going in.” I did not imagine the conversation could be ratcheted up to this level this early, but after the unmitigated disaster that was the Dolphins season opening loss to the Indianapolis Colts, that’s where we’re at. I’d honestly say, and this is David Ferona speaking, I’d honestly say we’ve entered a stage where it is within the realm of possibility. I wouldn’t say it’s nearly likely that this is how the next 10 days go, but it’s not entirely out of the question. Week one against a mediocre Colts team was never competitive. Quarterback Tua Tonga Aloa turned the ball over three times. That and the accompanying deficit in turn never let the run game get going. Defensively, the secondary couldn’t cover and without much of a pass rush either, quarterback Daniel Jones looked like Pton Manning at Lucas Oil Stadium. And oh yeah, there was a critical special teams penalty. Nothing went right. The Dolphins were uninspired, unprepared, and did not execute. These are all indictments on Mike McDaniel. The key is how it goes in Sunday’s home opener against the Patriots. If the Dolphins drop that one, even looking half as awful as week one in Indianapolis against a Patriots team that lost to the Loly Raiders in its opener and has come into the September 1pm heat and humidity of South Florida, all bets would be off because these Dolphins are not going into Orchard Park on a short week and beating the Buffalo Bills. If you’re owner Steve Ross, you can’t make any move merely off a loss to New England. But if the ensuing Thursday night at Buffalo, the Dolphins are blown out again or get to 0 and3, Ross would be within reason going into a long weekend to blow the whole thing up with Greer and McDaniel. What else are you waiting for at that point? It would signify another season going down the drain during the first half where the Dolphins should be stacking wins against a tough second half of schedule. In the scenario where something happens this year, some would say Greer might stay while McDaniel goes. I think I think David Fiona says they go down together. If we find McDaniel’s tenure failed, that’s in large part on Greer, who owns the longest active tenure as GM in the NFL without a playoff win. The franchise would have to start fresh with new direction from the GM on down and a new coach. All this said, I have the Dolphins winning Sunday’s home opener against the Patriots, so you can put all that talk on hold. It would be weird. I do not think you keep one and get rid of the other, but it would be weird to fire McDaniel week three and let Chris Greer stay on till the off season. Like Steven Ross, we’ve talked about it, like people criticizing his decision- making. I think you you you either have to let them stay around and just fight through the pain and fire them both in the offseason or clean house early. I don’t think you can fire one without firing the other and giving another guy. And Chris Gri, no, I’m I got three months left for this job. Like you’re just sitting there as a lame duck. I don’t I don’t think one leaves and the other stays for a for a window of time and there’s a lot of decision to be made like the Tyreek Hill trade. So you get rid of you get rid of uh McDaniel, you leave Greer around to make the Tyreek trade just to fire him the offseason. It just that that concept doesn’t make sense to me. Beyond that though, I mean, no joke, I understand, you know, it’s very difficult to make a a decision and it’s probably never the right time to make a decision like that. But imagine how it would look if Steven Ross fired the general manager after letting him make signings, draft your your future assets, make trades throughout the entire off season and then three weeks into the season after you let him do all that and impact your franchise for years. That’s when you decide to let him go again. I realize there’s never going to be the right time to do it, but that also is as silly as it gets. It it’s not though if you find out a lot quicker than you thought you’d find out that none of it worked because the thought was because I even said before the season started, hey, this is going to be a season to make or break Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer, but I always figured the season there wasn’t a scenario where I thought three weeks in you’d be talking about making a change. Didn’t didn’t think there was a scenario. That’s how bad they looked opening opening week like that. Like it was unfathomably bad. So I would say if they do come out looking lethargic and get wiped off the field on Sunday and then you know you go into a short week against Buffalo, I think if they get wiped off the field Sunday by New England, the process will be in motion and it’ll happen after Thursday. I don’t think there’s a chance that they would upset Buffalo. So, I I I do think that, you know, while it’s an admission that everything you said was okay and were riding with wasn’t, it’s better than trying to pretend like, hey, it might get better. Like, you you just find out sooner rather than later. Wow. I had faith none of it was right. And with Greer is Savinaya. Did he did he make a difference? Aaron Brewer, James Daniels out now. He tore his pec. Like the additions you added to this team. I didn’t see any difference. Even at front seven, the linebackers he brought in, there was no difference in the front seven. We’re good with Storm Duck and Jack Jones. Storm Duck’s hurt. We’re not good with Storm Duck and Jack Jones. And now we’re really not good with Jack Jones and whoever else is playing. Marshall, the fifth round pick. To your point, Salana, a draft pick. It’s Kenneth Grant. Did he make a play? Like, it starts a 25point loss makes you look at everything in a microscope. You get beat by the Patriots and you’re going to play prime time Thursday night in Buffalo, which that’s not going to go well. You have to look at it and say, “Hey, I I I might almost I don’t know if this what you’re saying, Salana, almost to the point that I didn’t do it early enough. How long can I wait to really make the change to get us back on top?” Yeah. And you know, ju it’s a counter to what I was saying earlier, but if if I am Steven Ross and things do get out of hand again and it becomes clear I was wrong in allowing this person to run the franchise for another season, don’t you almost have to say, okay, I was wrong, but how can I let him continue after the mistakes he made over the off season? You know what I mean? Like if if he’s just not the guy, he’s not the guy. Why let him continue making decisions? Crowder, the reality is you look at an NBA team and when the Heat had the big three, if LeBron, Bosch, and Wade all had bad days, they weren’t going to win a game. It just wasn’t going to happen. James Jones and Eddie House weren’t winning you basketball games. The Miami Dolphins are similar to that. They don’t have the big three, but they’re topheavy. And if Tyreek Hill can’t get the football because Tua Tonga Aloa is having an off day and can’t get it to him, the reality is they’re not going to win football games. It just is what it is. So no matter what other moves Chris Greer made, that’s what happens when you have a topheavy football team. He could have drafted the best player in the draft, the biggest diamond in the rough. Kenneth Grant’s not winning you a football game. like Tua to Tyreek, Tua to Waddle, Devon Achan, the offensive line. That’s winning you football games. That’s what they committed themselves to. If you get rid of McDaniel, Anthony Weaver takes over. Correct. Like is it Frank Smith, Anthony Weaver? Not that the defense looked great on Sunday, but yes, it’s going to be Anthony Weaver, the young guy. It’s almost like um um what was it? Uh Antonio Pierce in in Las Vegas. like you’re going to get the young player coach, you know, the guy that everybody likes. If you get rid of Chris Greer week three, you have to have a GM in place to make a lot of decisions, free agent signings, trades with Tyreek, which I think if we go 0 and three, Tyreek’s not going to be here through the year, they already have odds on him not to be with the Dolphins. Who is that guy? You always say just fire him, fire him, fire him, fire him. So, who’s going to take his place to make a lot of crucial decisions for the rest three months of this this Dolphin season? And then does he keep the job in this whole offseason? Does whoever takes over Chris Greer, is he now the GM through the draft next year? Is he an interim GM? It’s a it’s a lot more than just we look bad, fire people. You have to have a replacement. It’s an untenable situation because there like because the truth is so if you bring in someone new to make all these decisions in the interim and you make decisions that affect the franchise moving forward but then you go out and you want to get a certain coach and that coach might say yeah but I need all the control and so the person you hired to make all these decisions now is kind of on the outs like it it’s just not a sit this is why no team wants to be in this situation because there’s so many moving parts to it and every decision you make is going to affect the next decision that gets made. All that being said, David Furonus gets another question in the Suns Sentinel. How much will it cost to move on from Tua after this season? I’ve heard conflicting info. Furonus says a Yahoo story Tuesday detailed a path similar to how the Denver Broncos got out from the Russell Wilson contract. It revealed that it would cost the Dolphins $79.2 million over the next two seasons. The team could all lot.4 million on the 2026 cap and the remaining 16.8 to 2027. The Dolphins already have $33.6 million in dead cap space for 2026 with Ramsay and retired left tackle Ron Armstead together combining for more than $31 million of it. To move from Tua would require a cheap starting quarterback next season, possibly an avenue to find one as a top draft choice if the team is picking high in the draft and rebuilds this year. And is that a tank? Is is that’s what you’re Is that the question? Is are we tanking for now to go get a young guy or to sign a vet? Well, no. If you if you get rid of Tua after this season, you’d be drafting a quarterback. So then you’d have a quarterback for cheap. Like you’d have to draft a quarterback high. So you’d get a quarterback cheap. The reason you’d get two after get rid of two after the season is because they have an awful season. So you’d imagine they’d have a high draft pick and then you would get rid of him, eat the dead cap space, but you’d have a very cheap quarterback because of drafting one. Arch Manning, Garrett Nusmeer, and Lenor Sers are the three top quarterbacks as does any does that move any Well, don’t forget about Carson Beck. Carson Beck. I’m just looking at I looked at the top 10 mock draft. It’s so funny. The the website’s called website’s called Tankathon, but it’s Yeah. I mean, that’s the whole thought of New Orleans, right? that they’re tanking for Arch Manning. And that’s who’s number one is the the New Orleans Saints are drafting Arch Manning number one overall quarterback out of Texas. Our old friend Adam Beasley to that point. And by the way, like I know we’re a long way from this becoming true. So, who knows? Y and I don’t think the Dolphins are moving on from Tua this off season anyways. I genuinely don’t. I I I don’t think there’s an out for them the ne the following season. So, I just don’t think so. But our old friend Adam Beasley, who I know no longer is is full-time on the beat, uh but he has been here for a very long time. He said, “If the last 25 years have taught the Dolphins and their fans nothing else, it should be this. Unless you have a generational quarterback, you must try to improve at that position every single off season.” He writes, “College football gets it. The NFL should too.” And I know it’s very easy to say that like go find Patrick Mahomes, go find Joe Burrow, and it almost never happens. But I think, you know, he’s right. Like you you shouldn’t just settle when you find a good quarterback. You should consistently be trying to find a great quarterback. The Commanders are proof positive there. They hit on that. And look at look at where they are literally a season and one game in. They feel like they’re Super Bowl contenders now every year for the next decade. But Trevor Lawrence was a generational quarterback. Jags ain’t doing a damn thing. Dak Prescott, Hawk loves him. The Dallas Cowboys, they do the same thing we do. Get to the playoffs, get their ass whooped. Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. Like, we can go through those top five. We’re gonna We They’re not making Nusmeer is not Josh Allen. Arch Manning is not Josh Allen. I’m with you. But Josh Allen wasn’t Josh Allen until he turned into Josh Allen. No joke. I remember Josh Allen’s first playoff game against Houston. He was a disaster. He was throwing the ball over the place. It was it was it was a nightmare. He couldn’t win a Super Bowl. Yeah. Until he won a Super Bowl. I mean, so you got to give guys chances. I I get it. I mean, I think there’s a real conversation to be had if Tua continues to And the question is, is Tua gonna continue to look like he looked on Sunday or was that the oneame aberration? I asked that of someone yesterday. Like, that’s the that’s the real question. This and it’s so it’s so funny that they’re both itsybitsy spiders. Drew Brees got ran out of San Diego, went to New Orleans, and won a Super Bowl. Yeah. He’s a little bitty dude. Two is a little bitty dude. He was injuryprone with the with the Chargers. Tors hip hop or something just like Tua has been getting concussions but he was talented and we look at Drew Brees as a very good quarterback. We look at Tua as a very good quarterback. Tua goes to I don’t know the Browns. Will he be better? Can he go get over that hump? Because why don’t you just bring a better regime in to coach him? Like if they I mean that’s the Tanahill example. It’s like hey did you have to get rid of Tanahill? Maybe you could have brought in Derrick Henry and they would you know what I mean? Like I mean you can do the yin and yang of that all the time. AFC Championship game. Yeah. So was Tanah Hill terrible or was our coaching staff terrible? That’s what we’re going to have with Tua or did you miss Derrick Henry? Like yeah there there’s again there’s so many moving part. There’s no answer. It’s like no Tua is not going to be a good NFL quarterback. No, Brian Tanhill is never going to be a great NFL quarterback. all of a sudden he’s in the AFC Championship game, but he happens to have Derrick Henry in the back field. So, it’s a it’s it’s hard to to play that game. I I get what you’re doing, Crowder, but I I do, man, comparing to it to Drew Brees, I see the parallels, but bro, Drew Brees ended up being one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, and you I know he was injuryprone, but the longevity of his career is a testament to what he was able to accomplish. I mean, you’re Bro, the guy I saw the guy I saw Sunday, the guy I saw Sunday, and I I’m saying this carefully doesn’t look like somebody who’s going to be playing football in five years. Again, that’s the question though. Is the guy you saw Sunday really representative of what you’re going to see moving forward that we’re going to start to find out on Sunday. We got to take a break cuz the four hours coming up. Five years with San Diego Chargers, no one thought Drew Brees was good. Goes to New Orleans and we love Drew Brees. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes a change of scenery helps, but also a change of teammates depending on who you get with roster construction. Yeah, it has a huge uh difference in what goes on

If things do get REALLY bad for the Fins – starting Sunday vs NE – how does the rest of the season play out?

25 comments
  1. Stephen Ross is the number one problem, but he owns the team so you just got to hope that he gets the gm hire right this time.(HE HAS NOT HIT ON ONE GM SINCE OWNERSHIP)😐

  2. Grier should have been gone long ago and McDonald's next, and McDonald's needs to take Tua with him, now these clowns are responsible for 50 percent, the other 50 percent fault is Ross, because Ross has devastated this once proud franchise for keeping Grier. Ross wake the he'll up get rid of these 2 clowns and let them take Tua with them.

  3. To answer Channings question as to the interim GM – I’d imagine Tom Garfinkel would be asked by Ross to look after until a replacement is sought out as by my reckoning he is just about the only competent person at that level we have even if he doesn’t necessarily work on the football side.

  4. Why wait to fire them? Do it now. It can't get worse than it is already. No team comes out on opening day and craps the bed like that, especially with the talent they have. They weren't ready to play and showed zero enthusiasm. It looked like they just didn't care.

  5. Both Grier and McDaniels need to go. Ross has made a lot of bad decisions. He let Campbell go in favor of Adam Gase. Let Flores go. I mean jeez. We all know the Patriots and the Bills are going to slam the Fins.

  6. WHAT ALL OF YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND! IS THAT ROSS DOES NOT CARE IF THE DOLPHINS WIN GAMES AS LONG AS THE TEAM KEEPS MAKING HIM
    MONEY! BY THE PEOPLE SHOWING UP NO MATTER WHAT!

  7. Ross, through the years, has been kind of a hands-off owner. He more or less leaves stuff to his football people. Unfortunately, his football people like Grier are the route of the problem.

  8. The problem is that no quality personnel want to come here and work for Ross. Anyone who is honest has to say because of caps and bad decisions, we're building for 2027, to make a move in 2028 and 9. Just not what an old man wants to hear.

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