Do the Chicago Bulls Have the WORST Three-Year Outlook in the NBA? | CHGO Bulls Podcast

Do the Chicago Bulls Have the WORST Three-Year Outlook in the NBA? | CHGO Bulls Podcast

What up, Bulls Nation? We’ve got a live CS Bulls coming up right around the corner. On today’s show, ESPN yesterday dropped their three-year outlook power rankings. Spoiler alert, the Bulls are near the bottom. We’ll talk about whether or not they deserve to be. Also, Hoops Hype ranked the top 79 international hoops players of all time. We’ll discuss some former Bulls who made that list and some Bulls trivia. All coming up next. No. Katie, does that mean I have to stay like this the entire time? [Music] I I saw what you did there. That was That was nice. That was nice. What’s going on, Bulls Nation? Welcome in to the CHO Bulls podcast. Coming to you live from our studios here in West Loop, downtown Chicago, Studio B. I’m back bulls_pack. That’s big day. Bam. B for bow bow. BL sports. Will the goalie perfectly quafted rocking the great plain blue tea today. golly. Queen the controls one. What up? Studio B stands for studio bad. I hate it here. I love the handheld mic. Embrace the chaos of studio B. I really like the handheld mic though. I I normally have a normal mic. I don’t know where it is. Every time I come in here, it’s like we have less and less equipment. Maybe it was that cord that was on the ground. that you rolled up and I tried to I tried to help you out but yeah man I don’t think it was look how she holds the mic like this is not her first rodeo here man like she has definitely how should I hold the mic but this is how you you I know you’ve sung a song but I got this whole it all right off the rail 45 seconds all right studio B baby love it yeah we’re rocking Studio B today because of course we had to give Studio A2, our CHO Cubs crew. Good team. Cubs just clinched a wild card spot today. Shout out to that. Luke and Joey holding out CS Cubs post game over there. Right now, Cubs are going to the playoffs, baby. Cup Moses, that’s what they’re drinking. Just the second Chicago team of their five major teams to go to the playoffs since we launched the HO in the spring of 22. Who was that first team, man? Uh, the Chicago Bulls. Bulls. gentleman sweep against the Bucks in round one. The Bucks did that. Uh the Chicago Sky did also go to the playoffs. Now, forget it. Uh that first spring, right? The spring of 22. Won in the first round, lost in the second round. How did they lose? And no Chicago team has sniffed the playoffs between then and just now. I don’t know, man. The three plan trips there was there was I guess if you want to call the playing tournament sniffing the playoffs postseason, they were sniffing in a big way. I also I have a serious problem with the Bulls or just the NBA at large, but I’m I’m putting the blame on the Bulls cuz I feel like it’s the thing they would do is to rename the playin tournament or refer to the playin tournament as the postseason. They should call they can’t use the word playoffs cuz it’s not the playoffs. It’s not the playoffs. They should call it the wild card round. That is so much better than playin. Yeah, I agree. I agree. The wild card is better than playing. Sounds much better cuz but technically it is a postseason cuz it doesn’t count towards the regular season at all in any stretch. It’s the postseason but it’s not the playoffs. Yeah. And you get none of those stats that happen count towards anything. So you’re stuck kind of in the middle. I just set back up. I just set up. What are we talking about today? Well, man say something I’ve said a million times already. It’s never stopped you, man. Hey, uh yeah, we will get to those ESPN NBA future power rankings on the back half of today’s show and they are well, let’s just say illuminating. Uh the question guys are done. Can we go in the studio? Oh my goodness. No, we got Studio B today. That’s right. Studio B vibes. Vibes. Um quick reminder, we are uh doing another Big Brothers Big Sisters months here at all uh at All City NCHGO. You see that blue donate button right underneath that live chat. If you’re feeling generous and want to give to a good cause, throw a few bucks to our Big Brothers, Big Sisters partners. Appreciate them and all they do here in the community. And uh we’re trying to win the competition against all the different all city markets. So, let’s get them dollars up. Get them dollars up. Uh hoops hype. Love your heart. Offseason rankings, baby. This one uh of Frank Erbena ranking the 79 greatest international players ever. the hoops hype list. Mhm. I we were talking about like why top 26 when they were doing by position, right? Uh in these last weeks of the offseason. 79. What’s what’s with these random arbitrary numbers? Yeah. 26. They’re just messing with us at this point. Like this is intentional. I think I think it’s a tactic where the more obscure the number, the more likely a viewer is to click on it. I think Goat just solved the puzzle, you guys. Not just a quaff. not just a quaff. Uh so many former Bulls made the list. Uh former Bulls who have international backgrounds, the tops of which number 60 was Pal Gasol who came in sixth overall. You also got the three-time NBA champ coach, member of the second Bulls repeat at 23, V 26, Joe Keem 27, Luall Dangerous. Dang 34 on the list. Who could forget? I noticed that you omitted him when you tossed this list into our bull slack earlier this week. Goat Bulls legend Tristan Thompson coming in at 60 and Lowry Markin who just had himself a a hell of a Euro basket performance uh at the end of the summer for Finland coming in at number 61. Uh Dave, what jumps out to you on these list of foreign bowls who made the top 79 international best ever? Oh man, I have so many thoughts. Um, first of all, Lowry Markman should be higher than Tristan Thompson. Let’s start there. I Yeah, I can vouch for that. Even if it’s just one up, he should be a little higher. He just should be a little higher than Tristan. No disrespect to Tristan about his game on the floor, but I’m going to choose Lowry on on that one. But I I get it. Tristan has championship uh ring and like their greatest performances as international players. This is what I’m that’s what I was going to ask cuz that’s what I’m getting confused at. Is it what you’ve done more so in the NBA or what you’ve done internationally? Because if we’re talking about internationally and what you’ve done, how in the blue hell is Tony Coup coach at 23? This dude was the Michael Jordan of international basketball when he came walking in here. He set up everybody for for generations to come. He’s the one. Oh, and of course he balled out while he was here, giving the six man of the year, the three titles and stuff like that. He did his thing here as an NBA player. The guys they had ranked ahead of him. I’m like, come on, man. For really. Pedro Stoyakovich should not be ahead of Tony Cooach. Tony Coo is at least the very least top 20. There’s no way he’s outside the top 20. It blew my mind. I didn’t understand it. It was absolutely crazy. But shout out to uh Py Casal being on this list at six. I had no issue with that. I absolutely had no issue with who they had at number one with Hakee Alajuan cuz that’s no weaknesses out there for young Hakee the dream. And I love seeing some of the other guys. But listen, Carly Town should not be ahead of Tony Cool. Coach, I’m with you on that. Denin Petravic is my guy. I love Denin Petravvic, bro. Rest in peace to him. He’s one of the reasons the Nets are still my second favorite team in the NBA. I love Jaza Petravic. He’s not ahead of Tony Cuck coach if we’re just talking about NBA stuff or if I’m talking international. So, I disagree with where they had Tony at. I loved having Joe Keem on there. Of course, I think it should be higher, but that’s just me being biased. Um, but I love out the top the top three. I I thought I would see Joker at three, but having Giannis there three over Joker. I I having him there. I’m like I I I would like to hear the debate. I don’t really have a strong take on it, but I would like to hear the debate because I think you can definitely damn sure have one because Giannis has I mean Giannis has been called, you know, one of the best of his generation and Joker has been called arguably the best period. Like he’s like you’re hearing that stuff being thrown around. So I would like to hear that. But overall, it’s a good list and I agree with it. I disagree with it, which is why I think it’s a good list. And just to quickly clarify the criteria they did specify at the beginning before the ranking started. As always, we factor in FIA accomplishments to an extent but put way more stock on what these players did while competing at the highest level aka in the NBA. Okay, so I stand on what I said about Pedro Soyakovich and Tony Coo. He didn’t have a better career than Tony Cooach did. The accolades are there for that. I’m sorry. Like oh and I forgot the three rings. I didn’t even mention that. But yeah, man. No, Tony Cuckoo for me in my opinion should be in the top 20 when you’re making any kind of international list. I don’t care what you taking into consideration. I mean, I just want to talk more about Tristan Thompson. Are we ready now? Yeah. Bulls legend Tristan Thompson who who you covered, right? He was the idea of that 2122 playoff season. 23 games played for the Chicago Bulls, three starts, legend, 16.3 minutes per game, 5.7 points per game. And of course, the legendary uh quick video of him warming up pregame and airballing hook shots from two feet away from the basket. Hard to forget about him. My apologies. How dare he step on you? But honestly, he actually was really great to cover. He was like super nice and um I appreciated those that short when he was around. Um yeah, I put this in our Slack because I was like, we don’t really have much to talk about. Like what do you guys think about this? And I listened to the players and I was like, I don’t know if it’s that interesting. And Dave was like, “This is the most interesting thing I’ve ever seen in my entire life.” Little exaggeration, but I’ll I’ve never been so interested. It’s studio B, so I will allow that exaggeration, sir. Um, but it made me think about it in terms of obviously the Bulls, and I’m curious what you guys think about how you would rank these players in terms of their importance to the franchise. I think probably Tony would still be number one, but then after that probably Joe Keem after that gets a little a little uh foggy. Uh break them in terms of their importance to the Bulls team they played on to the Bulls to the Bulls franchise history. Not necessarily. Noah’s one um over Tony. Okay, Tony’s won. Well, over over Noah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because Noah’s on my Mount Rushmore. So, yes. Give me Joe Kim Noah number one. Uh, give me Tony Cos number two. Lu all three. I was Yeah. Uh, Gasol four, Lowry five, Tristan six. You’ll probably have Tristan over him because like you said, it was more memorable moment for you. But not, but that’s how I have it under. I think you can make the argument that the Bulls win three chips by replacing Tony Cuck coach with a different player who’s good was sick. They’ll stay win. I do not I do not think the Bulls have their only other period of sustained success and legitimate competition without Joe Keem and Lu Deng. That’s why like dude I would put Joe Keem and Luall 1 A 1B and then Tony 1 A. played 48 minutes a night for 9 years a Yeah, but is that recency bias? No, I I don’t think so. I don’t think so. Katie doesn’t do that. I think Lu all day was more important to the Bulls teams that won that he was on than Tony was to the Bulls teams that he was on. No. Well, Tony Cuckoo literally has a game that they won that sent them to an NBA finals. So, I dispute that one. Um, I watched what he did when he first got here and those game-winning shots that he hit without Michael Jordan being here. Like, he was vitally important uh to this team. They wouldn’t he wouldn’t have gotten a sixman of the year award without that. Like, he was important, dog. Like, it wasn’t I know. And agree to win without him. I think he won six man of the year because he was the first man off the bench for a team that went 72 and 10. Yeah, but he baldled. Like, that’s a point to it, too. Not taking that away from Tony. I’m just saying he bled out. Yeah. Go’s the original question of like who was the most important, you know? Like, hey, Phil Jackson, coach of the year. Yeah. They won 72 and 10. You be coach of the year. I understand. Accolades come with that, but you’re still part of the team. Yeah. And you’re still a huge part. Just like, you know, Bulls go 62 and 20 and a, you know, whatever that was a 20 win jump in the previous season and Tibs’ first year. Tibs wins coach of the year. Yeah. Who helped Tibs win that coach of the year? Who all dang? Well, yes. And of course, Joe Kim Noah. Look, that honestly that was my biggest issue that I had with this. Okay. Okay, but speaking as someone who defends Vu pretty regularly on this your podcast compared to Bulls fans who complain and put a lot of the blame of this team’s mediocrity if that over the last several years on Vucc’s shoulders. Him being one spot ahead of Joe Keem bugs the crap out of me. I’m sorry. Are we talking about two twotime allstars? One of whom won defensive player of the year. Mhm. Was that Joe Keem or was that V? I think that was Joe Keem. One of whom been all defensive team a couple of times. One of whom finished top four in MVP voting. Were those things Joe Keem or were those Yeah. Why don’t you Why don’t you go ahead and switch those numbers? Points per game though. Points per game. Come on now. Get out of here with that. I didn’t see uh uh Ben Gordon on here. Someone asked somebody asked somebody also in the chat asked about Mark Anderson saying no. He was on a long list of names in the others receiving votes. I did see that they included at the bottom. Yeah, I’m cool with that. Drago, you know what I mean? Tarlock. No, none of that. I will say if we’re including the great Tristan Thompson on this, I’m a little disappointed that no one picked up on Goran Drag who was a bull for even longer. Mhm. So, so he’s on the list. He’s on the list at number 31. At 31 great for Slovenia, but I Yeah. I mean, we’re talking about like if we’re talking about their appearances as international players, like I don’t know how to rank this. If we’re talking about their like ranking them in terms of their abilities in the NBA level, that’s a different story. But yeah, I mean, Dragage 31, pretty pretty high. What are you doing? What are you doing, Dragage? We got to knock out a couple ads. We come back on the other side. We’re talking Bulls trivia and the ESPN future power rankings after that. Hit the like. Here’s some ads. There’s a thumb. RC Cola. Matt’s got one. Going to grab it, Matt. Crack it open and take a chug and punch yourself right in the god dang thirst. Bam. All that explosion and joy because he’s got RC Cola, the true taste of Chicago. It’s the OG cola in a world full of spineless soft drinks. There are no trends. There are no gimmicks. There are no woozies. And for the love of this guy, there are no Wasis at all. It’s the OG Cola and we love it. 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Uh, cuz the Bears might make us miserable, but that doesn’t mean you can’t look good while being miserable. Got that right. Uh, also up to 85% off some of those items. What are you waiting for? Go up your wardrobe as a Chicago sports fan. hit that merch locker. Um, all right. Now, one closing thought on the international thing. Yes, please. Of course. At what point is Giddy going to show up on the list? It’s a great question. Seriously, why? I would say another two years. Yeah, I feel like he will be at some point. Yeah. Why isn’t he on there? There there’s a there are a lot of young international players who haven’t quite reached stardom levels that did make this list. Yeah, exactly. Which I find interesting. Very interesting. Dort on here. Why Why you got to throw Giddy in the conversation? Go. All the time that we spent talking about Josh Giddy this off, you had to throw him into this conversation. Giving him praise for being a really good player who’s happens to be from another country. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [Music] Uh, you know, we we’ll see depending on what kind of season Katy has. I think it would be very believable if he cracks this list if they do it again. He’s also been really good for the national team. So, that’s another part of that. That’s very true. I I don’t know if you knew that, but the team Australia tape is evidence that Josh Giddy is an AllNBA player just just seconds away from realizing his full potential. Good day. I’ve heard that argument from a few people. Bless your hearts. Uh, all right. Points per game, though. Katie, you’re in control. What’s What’s going on? What are we doing? It’s my evil laugh. Uh, we’re gonna do some We’re Ah, I don’t really know how to respond to that comment. Um, all right, let’s do it. You’re just not evil enough, Katie. Anyway, I’m going to Don’t doubt her. I’m We’re going to do some trivia today. Mhm. I am going to remove the chat from the screen so that you can’t Hi, chat. My beautiful chat. I’ll bring you guys back, but I don’t want them to see the correct answer if you guys get it before they do. So, we’re gonna start with some trivia. If you get the correct answer, you’ll hear the sound. The wrong answer, you hear the sound. How do we buzz in? Yell. Not like that, please. All right. Question number one. How many scoring titles? Bing. Did Michael Is this a race or are we working are we working together? I don’t know. We’ll figure it out. Did Michael Jordan win? Uh, the answer is D10. I would that would be my guess as well. Dave did say Bing first. I did. I did. I did it with the bing. The bing boom boom. Congratulations. Yeah, you included four as a multiple. What are we talking about? Oh man. Okay. All right. Question number two. Who is the top scorer of the post Michael total points per game error? I also second that question. This is total points. Total points. I’m gonna go with Zack Lavine. I would also go with Zack Lavine. I am going to go with his tenure. You want it to be Kirk Hinrich. It’s Kirk Hinrich. No, I wish. Is there Lu? I mean, if it’s It’s Luang. How long How many years did Lu play for the Bulls? 85. A lot. Uh, as Matt just said, 40 minutes a night seasons. Like seriously, I don’t think he ever averaged 20. And he was he was never scoring at the volume Zach was. Yeah. And Lavine played eight years for the Bulls. So did Zach. That’s what I’m like. That’s interesting. That’s what I said. Yeah, that’s why I would have led with Lavine, which that was my guess. But he missed half a season with the ACL at the beginning. So it’s really six and a half or no, seven and a half compared to nine. Yeah. Who holds the single season record for assists? Guy Rogers. I know it can’t be Andis Wallley. He was trash. Congratulations. Don’t disrespect Enus leave his way. I’m so sorry alone, man. Just over here chilling, eating his salad. Like, what? Wally catching strays. There’s a lot of strays in this one. I won’t lie to you. Who is the franchise leader in turnover? Okay. Is this again total oral game? Total Mary’s team. I had to put Marcus Teague in there. Oh my god. I mean, it’s I feel like it’s got to be Michael. Scotty. Michael with all the ball handling he did. I’m going to say it’s Michael or Scotty, but I’m going Michael. I’m gonna say Scotty. Final answer. Yeah. Scotty. Mine is Scotty. They say Michael. Well, the correct answer is artist Gilmore. Michael Jordan. Michael Jeff. Of course. Michael Jeff. Of course. There we are. Turnover machine. We’re back, baby. All right. Um, who is the franchise leader in steel percentage? I love how Michael Jordan’s name is all over Jack Harrison. I wanted to have I love how just is using this Bulls trivia as excuse to bring up our Bulls outsiders PTSD with various names. You’re lucky I didn’t put Kirk Kinder on every single question. So, just be happy about that. I think I’m guessing he will make at least one more appearance. Maybe I’m not I’m not confident about this, but I think I’m going to go with Michael here. I’m going to go with Michael. I’m going to go with Metal World Peace. It’s not Michael. Okay. Metal world peace from here. Young Ron, our test was a menace. You know what? And he only threw me off. Okay. He only played like one or two seasons with the Bulls. So like he was really good during that time and that he played no offense. He literally just chased the ball around and went for steals. Michael probably had the highest peak of any of those. Yeah. No, the percentage threw me off. Mike led the league in steal three years. So that that threw me off. That’s why I guess got to read the questions carefully, gentlemen. All right, three more questions. Everybody in the chat, please hit the like button. Hit the like. We will bring you back on. Next question. How many teammates did Michael Jordan punch that we know of? Okay. Steve Curry. Curry punch. Shout out to our friend Will Purdue. Uhhuh. That’s two for sure. Uh-huh. Are there three other confirmed stories of MJ punching a different teammate? I find that hard to believe because I would have heard about them. Well, flex to you for saying that. I mean, well, no, also like there was a whole threat about no one’s allowed to pass to Bill Cartright, but that never resulted in violence. Yeah, he won from any confirmed stories. Yeah. So, I’m going to go two final answer. Uh, who’s the second one? This is interesting. It’s Purdue and Steve Kerr. Oh, because I’m wondering if Katie knows the second one. And if it’s I mean the cur is confirmed. I mean I will just say I I do have access to Google just to be clear. I didn’t just make things up today. No, I didn’t I didn’t think that. I didn’t think that at all. Um I mean I know it’s not zero or five. Uh I’m going to go with two. I’m going to go with two. Yeah. Yeah. I wish it was five. We’d have three more awesome stories. Two more questions. Okay. Which of these players was never an allstar? With the Bulls are in their career. With the Bulls, I should think it’s Harper. Yeah, definitely. You think it’s Ron Harper? Definitely. It’s for sure. Ron Harper. Absolutely. Ron Harper. BJ and Horus both made all-star team post MJ retirement number one. BJ, Scotty, and all in the same year, man. Yep. First year Mike was going. Reggie Theas was just a stud. Oh, Reggie Theas was Zack Lavine. The original. He’s the original Zack Lavine, dog. Like for real. You guys are flying through these. I thought this would be hard. These buckets, man. That’s right. We know our bull stuff. Yeah. This last one is not multiple choice. Okay. And you can work together. Cool. Can you name the top five scores in that should say history? I apparently just gave up. Inanchise history. Top five scores. Oh, okay. Great. Top five scores again. Total total. I want to go on a limb here and guess Michael Jordan for number one. That’s a sim bold. Do we have to get Do we have to guess them in order or do we just have to guess all the the five? Do we have to guess them in order? In order. Oh man. Okay. Uh I mean Derrick Rose. No. You think Derrick Rose is number two? I don’t think he played enough. No, that’s true. I would guess Scott is probably number two. Scotty, who am I forgetting? Bob Love has to be on this in the top five maybe. Yeah, but I don’t know. I’m also going to guess Kirk Hinrich. Kirkin is say love it too. Squeaking in there. She She wouldn’t make this question if Kirk wasn’t Oh, yeah. Cuz you know he’s making an appearance. You know he’s on here. Of course he is. Like come on. Uh he’s on the list. I would have guessed Zach, but it seems like he was not. Is it Scotty? Scotty’s got to be in the top five. Scotty’s got Scotty’s in the top five. Yeah. No. No. Bob left. Oh, I I can tell you you have Michael Jordan correct at number one. That’s it. Do you want to make a guess at where Scotty is? cuz then I can tell you if you’re right or wrong. Three. You think Scotty’s at three? Mhm. I say three. Okay. Two. I would guess two. Two. Scotty is number Scotty’s at two. Bob Love at three. There you go. Nice. You got the top three. I would guess Kirk Hinrich at five. Yeah. Okay. Kirkin four. Oh, I thought for sure you were Kirk Hinrich only made one appearance in our trivia segment today. Known for his scoring. Kurt Hinrich. Um, is Zack Lavine in there at five? Zack’s not on the list. Jet Walker. Jet Jet Walker. Oh. Oh. Uh, float. Derek Rose Lu. What number do you think? He rose at five. Four. He’s not there. What? What about the wall? What number? Oh, five. Uh, artist Gilmore. Didn’t we already say artist Gilmore? You got to give me a number. Did we say artist at four? Artist Gilmore. Five. Artist not on here. Okay. Did we Did we You guys have the top three. You have said both of the two remaining names. Yeah, they’re just out of order. What? Yeah, she’s got to be going pick another Matt Thomas. Matt Thomas number five. Okay, so I don’t think we guessed Dererick Rose at five. I think we guessed we did. I did guess. She She buzzed both of them for both of them. Okay, Dererick Rose is not in the top five. I can confirm that. Uh, did we guess Zack Lavine in both? You did. He is not. Lald Dang. Did we guess Lu Deng in both? I thought I did. Lu Deng had five. Okay. Dang at four. All right. already guessed. I already guessed that fourth be on the top five franchise. The fifth best scoreer in Chicago Bulls history. Is it you have said his name? Artist Gilmore. Cheddy Jet Walker. We said that. Uh Reggie Theus. You say his name in this exercise or No, Bob. You already got Bob Love at three. Oh, three. Um, I think you did say his name in this exercise. Yes. You thought he was number two if I remember correctly. I I guess Scotty number two. Scotty Pippen. Oh, Derek. No, Scotty is number two. Derrick Rose. Derrick Rose is not on the list. All right. Okay. I have Bob Love at two. You say Bob Love at five. Dwight. Bob Love is number three. We already confirmed that. Okay. What is the list so far? The list so far? Number one, Michael Jordan. MJ, Scotty, Bob Love, uh, Luang. I’ve said artist, I’ve said chat, I’ve said Did we Did we get Zach Lavina? Zakina is not on. Zach is not on there. Uh, do you want me to tell you? No. Uh, [Music] the chat has it. I will say, don’t look in there, but people in the chat have it correct. Oh, I’m sure they do. Not everyone, but it’s harder when you can’t like I feel like I need to see something in order to I’m a visual learner. I need to see I’m a visual learner. The names that we have written down. You said we said the name. One of you did. I don’t remember who it was. Ben Gordon. Good guess. Older. Think older. Reggie Theus. No. Think older. Not is not artist and is not chat. Correct. Norm Vanlier. It is Norm. Jerry Sler. I guess I I guess Jerry Sloan. Oh, there you go. minutes ago. You had them at the wrong number. Number. [Music] I like that we had to guess those. Not just whether they were on the list, but exactly what spot in the order. That was tough. I think Katie just wanted to hit the button a bunch of times. That we got the chat back so that we can see Travis Mcnite offering the suggestion Thaddius Young. Yeah, bunch of bunch of Eddie Curry. Shout out Eddie Curry. Congrats to Mark Anderson who got it right. Fish got it right. Where’s Ben Wallace on this? Nine hearted one got it right. Negative uh 10. Did he score for the Alex got it right. I feel like he had a 30-point game for some reason. I don’t know why. Any likelihood Kobe can end up on the list? 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Uh I’m going to say no. I avoided them on purpose. You know what I am shocked and proud simultaneously. Way to be Katie. Uh well, now the good times are over cuz the next thing on our list to talk about today, NBA Future Power Rankings, new three-year outlooks for all 30 teams. This just dropped yesterday uh on Tuesday, and this was a combined effort between Kevin Pelton, Bobby Marks, and Tim Bontemps to determine the rankings. They uh asked those analysts to rate each NBA team in five categories and rank them relative to the rest of the league. And this is a three-year outlook. Which teams are in the best position to the worst position on a three-year timeline right now? And they broke it into five categories to determine these ratings. Players, aka talent on the roster, money, how clean are your books now and in the next three years. Draft, how many of your own draft picks do you possess? How many draft picks from other teams do you possess? How many draft picks outgoing do you have? Market. How does the MBA world view your market? Big market, popular market or not so much and management. What is the resume of your current management team in place? The job that they have done and what we expect for them in the three years to come. Okay. So that’s the criteria pretty thorough I would say. Mhm. Uh number one team just for uh you know what’s giggles. Uh OKC. Yeah. defending champion who also have all of the world’s draft picks still in their back pocket. Yeah, they ranked first in players, first in draft, first in management. So, the fact that their books aren’t clean, they finished 28 the money and their market is a small market, Oklahoma City, they finished 29th, don’t matter because if you’re if you’re cleaning up with players draft capital and have a solid management team in place, I think you’re you’re pretty much set. Well, and also like they’re not going to have to go get a star in free agency the way that like a Lakers might always be in the running for. Like they’re just they’ve got three guys that they either traded for or drafted. So like their free agent swings are like Isaiah Hardenstein and like basically, you know, sign and trade for Alex Caruso. Like they they they just don’t need to operate in the same realm that everybody else is. They have a historic draft hall that like not anybody ever is going to be able to replicate in that same way. Um, but it it sort of like covers up for the fact that their market isn’t as compelling and that um they aren’t as big of a free agent destination. They’ve like made up for that in such a way that I just don’t think is like replicable at all. So, rounding out the top 10, we got some other teams that have been in the playoff picture in the deep playoff picture in recent years. Uh, the Young Houston Rockets on the rise came in ranked second overall, the Knicks third, Cavs fourth, the Clippers, despite all of their current um stresses, shall we say, of going on investigations, still come in fifth. Warriors 6, Magic 7, Lakers 8, Nuggets 9, and Spurs 10. Rounding out the top 10. And then you scroll and you scroll and we’re scrolling and we’re scrolling and we’re scrolling some more until we get to our beloved Bulls who did not come in dead last but 28th on the list. 28 of 30 NBA teams. When they did these three-ear outlook power rankings last year, the Bulls were 25th. So they have dropped three spots since last year despite having an identical record in the regular season and identical postseason quote unquote results of losing in the playing tournament. By category, the Bulls graded not great. 28th as far as player talent hater. Fourth, AK’s got them clean books. Good job. Good money, baby. Proud of you, buddy. Let’s go. Eighth in draft capital. Don’t owe any outgoing picks other than maybe a second or two from some recent trades. Not bad at all. Market 12. Let’s put a pin in that. How dare you? Management 27. AK was crying over his bullet Cheerios yesterday morning as he read this. Um I the for the record the only two teams worked rank wor ranked worse than the Bulls. Pelicans at 29, Suns at 30. two teams who have even less of a clue of what they’re doing. So, as we’ve done these rankings uh over these past few months, and thank y’all for hanging with us and watching those shows, those names of those three teams continually come up when we’re talking about the Chicago. The company you keep, you are kind of judged by the company you keep. At least that’s what I was taught uh by my parents. You’re judged by the company you keep. And those names, the Pelicans, the Suns, and sometimes the Nets, and maybe the Charlotte Hornets occasionally, but those teams I continue to hear come up. So when I saw this again, I was like, dang. I was like, we’re we’re down there hanging out with them again. So yeah, I I I feel like this is, like you said, very thorough and viciously honest, like, if you want to call it what it is. So, some of us might just leave out the word viciously and call it honest. Yeah. But then you’re a jerk for saying so, but it’s straight up. And, you know, we appreciate, you know, realness and honesty here. Um, it’s great seeing that about the money. Honestly, that’s that’s really good seeing that. Um, it’s good for me seeing that about the draft knowing that you don’t owe any picks and you got those clean books in that way. Uh, I’ll let you deal with the mark. You want to put a pin in that, so I I’ll let you come back to that one. Um, the players though, 28. Damn. Like, yo, man. I I get it. I’m not shocked. I’m not shocked. You know what I mean? I ain’t surprised that it’s just seeing it, it’s like, damn, 28th. And then you think about it like, oh yeah, no allstars, no all pros, everybody’s pretty young. Um, our biggest highlight is the Eastern Conference player of the month. The accolade, I should say. biggest accolade was the Eastern Conference player of the month that we can kind of lean on. So yeah, that’s not great. And then management at 27th. I mean I mean what what do we say to that? Like that is what it is. And so having the money in the drafts and the market might be cool, but not having the players and not having the management and how it’s sandwiched like that, like that’s not that’s not a stew. Sorry. It’s not how you get your stew going. Um, I just want to let Matt cook on the market thing. Yeah. Oh, well, and good. I know you thought that that was pretty interesting, too. I did. I mean, ranked 12th. I feel like there’s sort of this level of like Bulls exceptionalism in the fan base. Like people use that use that word associated with the Lakers a lot. The greatest city kind of thing. It’s the greatest city. It’s the greatest market. It’s, you know, it’s the greatest the greatest franchise ever. It’s the greatest like, you know, dynasty ever. Um, and they have all that stuff. That’s true. But number 12 still and look that’s they are the only ones who still see themselves that way. The die hard fans who have been around generations and saw what that greatness was when it existed. I think most of us don’t view them that way anymore. Cuz where’s the body of work to suggest that you still are the Bulls? You are the franchise of the NBA. Like we just talked in our first segment about the top 80ish players internationally in league history. You can credit a lot of the names on that list to the popularity of the ’90s Bulls across the world. They they will always have that to you know lean on as like we did that. The world loves the Bulls. Every country you go to go to Antarctica and see people rocking a Michael Jordan jersey. Shout out easy. Like that’s that part is always true. But when it comes to the strength of your market in convincing the best talent in the league to come want to play for your organization. Mhm. Honestly, I don’t even think they deserve to be 12th. I think they should be lower to I somewhere I don’t know low 20s, late teens. Okay. Where is the evidence to suggest that they are not just Well, it’s a big market. Yeah. Okay. New York, LA, Chicago, those are the three you always hear. They’re the third largest market team or at least the third largest market cuz the other two coastal cities have two teams per. But like that doesn’t matter. Chicago’s a big city. Cool. What does that have to do with its NBA team being market relevant to today’s players who when they can pick where they want to go? No one’s even coming, you know, on a on a final approach to Chicago. They might stop at O’Hare on their way to somewhere else. No one wants to play here. You know why? We all know why. Yeah. Quick question. They don’t win and they’re quick quick question. Where is OKC on this list as far as market? Uh I think they’re low. They’re like 28th or 29th. I think I mentioned that. Yeah. I I Yeah. Like that kind of answers the importance, you know what I’m saying, of that of the market and things like that. Like it’s important. It’s a thing. You want to like where you play, you know? You want to be comfortable in those situations, but it’s about what you build. It’s about the players you have, you know, it’s about how you manage those books. Like those are the key things about that to make players more so want to come here because market was more of a 90s 2000s thing in my opinion. Mhm. Like nowadays, I don’t think it’s a thing. Like it’s still important for sure, but watching OKC, Oklahoma City be the team that is the best team in the NBA. And you can argue Denver Nuggets, Denver, Colorado, shout out to DNVR, is not a huge city, not a huge market, but guess what? That team has got Nicola Joic on it. Milwaukee, not a huge market. Giannis Anto Kmpo is there. So they have you can still have that tiny market or a place people don’t really, you know, want to vacation to or something like that, but still be at the top. It’s about winning in the end. Another way to put it, and I’ll toss it to you then, goat, uh, as Pelton did his little write up explaining the Bulls positioning at 28th. Yes, maybe you give the front office some credit for the fact that they have the fourth best looking books for the 2526 season, 27 2627 and 2728, but as Pelton put it, the Bulls will have cap flexibility next summer, but we don’t trust this organization to maximize that opportunity. And that’s a combination of I think people in those management positions being good at their job and the market that they’re in. That is Yeah, I mean that’s that’s the whole thing, right? like you you have to put together a good team somehow and like what does that take? It takes all these different things that they’re evaluating and so it’s interesting. I think we can sit here and say like oh the Bulls are a better organization than the Kings or the you know Wizards or the Hornets, whatever. Who are we talking about? Exactly. But like at the end of the day when you when you go through and you look at the actual things that make up or go into how do you build a real team? Um it’s hard to argue with where the Bulls are. I mean I think like Yeah. It’s just it’s tough to argue with that. And I think uh the money that they’re setting up is great. I’ve been talking about that like a lot over the past couple weeks of just like you know you always have to just follow the money with these NBA teams. Like this is how you kind of have an understanding of reading the tea leaves of understanding what’s going to happen before it happens based on the way that their their books are. And like with a team like the Nets, you know, they’re creating cap space to take on bad contracts so they get draft picks. Um with a team like the Wizards, they’re doing the same thing. they’re taking on C.J. McCullum and Chris Milton so that they can get, you know, a pick and AJ Johnson. Um, and so they can improve the value of their own pick. And when the Bulls just kind of straddle the middle in both those areas, that’s where you end up. So, uh, for me, I think like the money is going to be a real asset that the Bulls have until it’s not like you at a certain point, you have to make decisions with that. um you know, are you gonna wipe Kevin Herder and Zack Collins and Vu and uh all these guys off your books and then move forward with a whole new set of players? Um are you going to go out and you’re going to sign that big for free for free agent that they’ve never really been able to get? Um so that’s great, but like at a certain point you have to fill out the roster. And so um maybe they can kick the can down the road by like signing one-year contracts um and getting back into the free agency game in 2027 when like Joic and Giannis might be there. That’s a tough way to live. I mean, we’ve been talking about the 2013 plan and the 2015 plan and the 2017 plan and the 2022 plan. It’s like you can do that every time at a certain point. It’s the same thing as drafting like Bruno Kbako. It’s like you’re always two years away from being two years away. So, I think uh this year is just going to be big for the Bulls in terms of that money piece, which right now is the best thing that they have going for them. Yes. Right. And I think uh maybe the talent’s a little underrated, like you know, some of these teams are just like really talent deprived. Um, but I think the money is going to be the big thing that can swing them because if they’re able to use it well, that will reflect well on the market, that will reflect well on the management, that will reflect well on the talent. Um, so I think those are kind of key things to look out for. You know, uh, I’ve heard that AK has a fiveyear tan a fiveyear plan. Maybe it’s a 10-year plan. Shout out Big Daddy. Um, Colin calling in the chat saying, “First time in a long time I’ve disagreed vehemently with Matt. Chicago is Chicago. You get noticed because you will be watched on the Bulls regardless of the team’s record. Let me ask you, Colin, and you know, I got nothing but love for you. Always tuning in. Always appreciate you. How many nally televised games the Bulls had this this season? How many had the season before that? How many they have the season before that? The Bulls are not the Bulls to the NBA anymore. They don’t get priority. They don’t get extra attention. They’re not special. It’s the same reason that after waiting a year, their new broadcasting network finally caved because they didn’t get what they wanted with Comcast Exfinity because they were behaving as if they are special. Guess what? You’ve lost the play tournament for the last three years. You ain’t special. So, stop acting like the world should treat you like you are. God, the market thing is like crazy. Yeah, it should be an attract like, “Oh, the winners are cold. Thanks, Stephen. A great take. It’s Chicago. It’s one of the best cities in this country. It’s one of the best cities in the world. It should be an attractive place for the league’s best talent to play, but it’s not. Yeah. So, you know, Windhorse, I wonder why that is. Why would they do this? Yeah. And that’s the frustrating part about it is you know what this is. You know what you have. You know what city is here. Hell, you could even look at the Chicago sky and say these same kind of things. Um, if you’re talking about what’s going on now with Angel Reese, like Angel Reese, like if the market mattered like that, Angel Reese wouldn’t be like, “I’d go anywhere.” She’s trying to get up here. She’s trying to go. You know what I mean? Like why? Cuz she’s played her first two WNBA seasons for a dysfunctional franchise. Just to be clear, there are no rumors about Angel requesting a trade. I just want to throw that out. All of the speculation is from outside sources. Fair enough. Shout out. Very fair. Katie’s commentary. Katie’s commentary. Let’s see how much longer she plays for this guy and then circle back to that. Yeah. Yes. Correct. We will revisit that for sure. But obviously from the outside looking in, that’s what it feels like and that’s what it looks like is she’s not pleased um with what’s going on within the organization. And usually when younger players aren’t pleased like that, they have that sort of power. That team was trash. They might want to make this season trash. Yeah. Yeah. Not good. Sending out that last game, too. Yeah. Come on. Um but yeah, man. Like I think and also I I just keep kind of going back to the company you keep thing like I’m looking at the players ranks you know and where these guys are and I’m looking at Sacramento is 23rd you know in their players they’re at number 25. Um you’re looking at Utah they’re they’re at 24 that players rank is 27th. So it’s about that talent what they think that that talent that you have is very very very important. You you must have these things man like you’ve got to have your talent and you got to have your management. the money, the draft, and the market, I think, are key for sure. Yeah. But those are the tools. Those are the tools you give to the workman. You know, the workman has got to be able to use those tools. But if they don’t have any faith in the workman and the work that they’re doing, then man, you’re going to be down here hanging out with the Phoenix Suns. And that’s why Dave, you said like all offseason long various rankings, whether it’s front office or, you know, three-year outlook or this or that, and the Bulls always been at the bottom, always in the same category. Like what are the Bulls all in on? remember that one. All in on nothing was the answer. And it’s like if that is always the case, go I don’t know if it is that the Bulls brain trust continue to overvalue and emphasize the talent that they have accumulated or if Bulls fans overvalue the talent that they have accumulated. I don’t know which party does it more because I see Bulls fans in my comments, in my mentions, in our chat all the time saying, “Dude, 45 46 wins incoming with this squad. Josh Giddy, Kobe Allstars. I’m sitting here saying, “Guys, I’m not I’m not super convinced that that’s going to happen.” And then you get the national perspective, NBA people to come in and put a magnifying glass on the Bulls for half a second, and this is what they see. For years now, this is what they see. This what I see. I don’t know what y’all see. When it comes to talent, the Bulls are bottom five in the NBA. Yeah, I I completely agree with that evaluation. Look, I look at some of these other teams. Like the the Suns are 26. They have Devin Booker on their team. They have just traded for Jaylen Green and Mark Williams. Like they have some young guys. They’ve got a better player than anybody on the Bulls. The Pelicans are 24. I mean, Zion, you can say what you want about him. He’s more talented than anybody on the Bulls. They’ve got Trey Murphy who’s incredible. They’ve got, you know, Derek Queen and Jeremiah Fears top 12 picks in this draft. um you know their draft situation and and you know there’s other things there to be critical of but like yeah I think the the ones that you can clearly point to as like the Bulls are better than is the Nets who are ranked 30. They really don’t have anyone. I mean they have Claxton. Um they have Jiego Demen who they just drafted. Those are Cam Cam Thomas. Like those are kind of their guys. Um the Wizards are 29. Like right now I think the Bulls are better than them. Like would it surprise anybody if Bal Kabali and like Alex Sar just broke out next year and like they got kind of good? Um or maybe they traded, you know, Chris Middleton or CJ McCullum for a pick that jumps up in the lottery and now they’ve got two top 10 picks, uh top five picks, whatever it may be. Uh the Kings, like I mean I wouldn’t want to be the Kings if I were anyone. Damn. But like but like when you when you sit here and look at the way that that the Bulls team was the last couple years, Zack Lavine and Demar Rosen were the two best players and they’re number two and three on their team. They’ve got Sabona still. So like the Jazz, I mean they’ve got some good players. Lowry’s probably better than anybody on the Bulls right now, would you say? I I mean he was an all-star more recently. Allar starter. Um the Hornets like LaMelo, you can say what you want about him. He’s still really talented. They’ve got Brandon Miller. They’ve got Conanipple now. Um, I’m not sure like what they’re building towards, but like I mean at the very best you can say like the Bulls are on par with some of these teams that are bottom five, bottom 10 in the league. Um, and I’m holding out hope for Giddy. Like I I do think that as much as we’ve critiqued uh this situation um and and noted some of his flaws. Like I do think he’s a talented player. I do think he can raise the floor of this team moving forward. And like there is value in that whether you uh are like a anti-tanker or protanker. like that kind of is what it is like he’s he’s a high floor player and so if you can add some pieces around him like maybe you can get the right talent but that’s just that’s a tough challenge to do so I think Kobe can keep getting better keep doing his thing Modus obviously we’re all excited about Noah maybe he hits like there are some guys but it’s like I I don’t to your point Matt like I don’t ever blame the fans for being like high on the players on their team they’re watching the Bulls every game they’re not watching every single team around the league and comparing that that’s the national pundit’s job to do that. And so those two things are both true, but at the end of the day, when you look here at these kind of lists and rankings and you notice where the Bulls are, I I think that should tell you something about the core of your team independent of the bias you have towards the players, which obviously, you know, Kobe’s been around this team for like six years now. It’s like this is of course you guys are going to like him. He’s a great player. He’s a good person. Like I don’t blame anybody for that. But um at the end of the day, like you still need talent to win in the NBA. And I think that with the money, with the draft picks, with the market, with the management, like all that stuff falls in line because they were able to get good players in the court. Yeah. And so if these guys are able to turn into good players, which I’m not, you know, putting it past them by any means, like that’s going to change, but we just haven’t seen that yet. Yeah. That’s the part right there I was I was going to say like this is just basically looking at the players and judging y’all for what you’ve seen, not not off the potential of the players and what they could be. This is why number one is going to be OKC when it comes to players. Like that’s how it happens. We see, you know, what happened and we understand what went down. Could the Bulls, you know, be higher up on the players list? I hope so. I’ll be watching every game along with this gentleman. I And this one like I I can’t wait to sit and watch it. But it’s why I keep saying all these questions will be really answered early on in the season, which is why I’m excited for it because 20, it’s not good enough. You know what I Regardless of what you feel the Bulls players should be ranked on this, wherever you have them ranked, I promise you it’s not good enough and it has to be better and it must be better. Even if saying, “Oh, they’re two two spots higher.” Great. Still not good enough. It needs to be better. And I don’t put that on the players. I put that on the people who bring the players in and because they’re the ones who have to pick the talent. So when you see the money, like I said, when you see the money and you see the draft as where they are and but then you see where the management is ranked at 27, that’s what kind of gives you pause, man. Like I don’t know, could you get this right? But we’ll see. But again, all this stuff will be answered very on in the season. I am rooting for Josh Giddy. I am rooting for Modis. I am rooting for Kobe. I hope SNG shows up and and does something on this team to allow them to say, “Hey, we got a piece right here.” But this is a young team. It’s It’s gonna look like that, but man, they still have a a mountain to climb, but we’re gonna watch them do it. Yeah, I I’m I’m I fully endorse that. I’m I’m gonna be rooting for the Bulls this season, too. Hoping they do well. I’ve given up on the idea that this should be a tanking team, even though the 26 draft class looks real good. It’s fine. And, you know, go to your point, I I’m not blaming Bulls fans for being higher on what they have than consensus national scope NBA people. I’m just saying it’s a thing and I think it is useful if also a bit painful or or aggravating or annoying to some to get these reminders like, “Hey y’all.” Hey, AK, are you listening? You know, like they read they they listen to things. Yeah. I guarantee you that AK Michael Rhydorf saw these ESPN three-year outlook fan power rankings. You know, I guarantee you they saw it. Yeah. I’m curious what they think of it. Yeah. If they think, well, how dare they? Okay. I’m like, it’s do something to change their minds. That you lazy fs. That you can have that ideology of this sucks. This is terrible. Go prove that. You know what I’m saying? Like, I’m cool with you being mad about it. Go show it. Show and prove it, man. prove to the league that you are or at least want to be again one of the biggest names in the NBA, the biggest names in professional sports like you used to be. Yeah. Don’t you think, well, why is the media so mean to us all the time? Well, cuz you aren’t trying to win. Jack Squad, put some effort into winning and maybe people will view you differently and I will wear t-shirts like this one. God. Studio B. Oh, I knew it was coming. You got the bucket though, right there. Yeah, I know. Okay, you’re good. All right, just man, you know, you got a bucket. Okay, you want to get a taken real quick before we wrap up? Great one to end on. I’m just have to be watching. I honestly I’m excited to watch these games, bro. Seeing the Chicago Bulls is a joke that they laugh at for 5 seconds and then go back to ignoring cuz I, as a lifelong Bulls fan, am sick of that. He ain’t lying. He ain’t lying. This is truth. But again, this why I keep saying this going to be answered day one, man. Day one. Whether he’s going to continue with this rage that you see right here or will it be some actual Hey, I’m excited about watching the Bulls team a little bit again. Day one, y’all. This will be answered from game one. It’s very important season, man. It is a very, very important season as as I’m learning right here. Not just for the management, but for the players as well. Like it is a very important season for these Bulls and maybe for Bulls fans, too. We gonna definitely ride with them, man. But I would rather be on the side of rooting for my team than calling out exactly what I’m seeing on the screen. We’re not going to lie to you about it. Go Bulls. Yeah, I’m still saying go Bulls, baby. Yeah, of course. Of course it I irrationally love this team and cannot quit them. Can’t quit. Boy, I wish sometimes that I could, but I can’t. I say a Matt has won my heart back. Love you, Colin. Uh, hey, hopefully that’s the last time I blow a gasket. Don’t touch that. Uh, in the offseason, maybe the next gasket blow won’t be until we’re actually watching Bulls basketball again. I think that’s a good goal to set. Should we put on that? When will Matt blow a gasket? Yeah. Oh, that is over. Over. It was like before or after postgame of their first preseason game. Over under 1.5 more gaskets blown before the start of the season. Oh, take the over. Before the first preseason before the start of the season. Before media day. Oh, before media day. Day. Two weeks. I’m taking the under, baby. I’m believing in myself. All right. What if it was.5? Take the over. Taking the over. Taking the under. I feel good about one and a half, but frankly, I would take around one and a half, too. Wow. I I was going to take the under. That’s crazy. Everybody’s like, give me the over. Can’t rule it out. Guess what? There might be another rankings piece that comes out between now and J that gets me cranky again. Bulls, please just just be better so that I don’t have to get cranky about this arguing about whether the Bulls are a market the team and the players want to play in. Yeah. Shout out shout out to that strong glass as well. Shout out to Studio B glass. Bulletproof S for bulletproof. All right, we’re out of here. Peek goat big golly bow. Bw sports bulls Bulls. Thanks for tuning in. Hit the like button on your way out if you haven’t done it yet. Shout out to the queen of controls, the one only KW. We’re back tomorrow. Same time, same place. 4 p.m. Central. Have a great night. See you. Good. Love y’all. My end screen is gone. Okay. Oh, we was us out. We were right. We were to play us out. We were right. Shout out to everybody. Watching [Applause] like the mayor.

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