Everything We Know About Joe Burrow’s Impending Surgery: Turf Toe is the WORST

Turftoe has this cute innocuous name, but actually it’s just the worst. And Joe Burrow needs surgery. Let’s break it down. You are Locked on Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. What’s going on Bengals fans and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. I’m Jake Liscoco. He’s James RP and we’ve been covering your Cincinnati Bengals here on Lockdown Bengals since 2016. through the thick and the thin. And uh well, we’re going to go through through a little bit of thin today as Joe Burrow, according to Zack Taylor, according to many reports, is headed for surgery, which is the worst case outcome for the turf toe injury, which like I said, doesn’t sound like much, but once you start reading about what turf toe is, it is a nasty, nasty injury. That is what Joe Burrow is dealing with. And we appreciate all you everydayers, everyone who makes lockdown on Bengals their first listen for sticking with us here as we’re bringing you all the information that we have about what’s going on with Joe Burrow, what we can expect afterwards and everything that is currently happening with those Cincinnati Bengals. But uh we can say definitively, James, that turftoe turftoe sucks. It is the worst. That’s right. The turftoe is the You’re right though about the name. They need to change the name. Turftoe sounds like like a minor thing, and it can be minor at times, but it’s super painful. And even when you aren’t one of the 2% that need surgery, it’s uh well, it’s not fun and it keeps you out for a while. And unfortunately for Joe Burrow, I mean, I I don’t know about you, Jake, I’m not holding out hope. Like, holding out hope is the wrong thing. Of course, you hold out hope, but I’m not realistically thinking that we’re going to see Joe Burrow again in a Bengals uniform at any point this season, and certainly not in this calendar year. That’s how I’ll do it. Like, I’m not thinking about that December 14th game against the Ravens or in that rain. Like, I’m not doing that. I I don’t think we I think we’ve seen the last of Joe Burrow in 2025 and probably the last of him this season. The idea that this could be as little as three months feels very optimistic. That is the short end. And the the caveat to give there is that this injury requiring surgery is particularly rare for quarterbacks. It’s rare in general. It’s especially rare for quarterbacks. There was a a Harvard study that looked at all turf toe injuries in a range that ended in 2017 in which four of the turftoe NFL injuries they looked at were quarterbacks. None of those needed surgery, which led to this idea that this is unprecedented for quarterbacks to have a turf toe that required surgery. That’s not the case. Patrick Mahomes just had it after the 2020 season. After the 2021 Super Bowl, three days later, he had surgery to repair turf toe that he played through and worsened, thus requiring, I think, that surgery. So definitely not something that that you can play through for a long period of time. They they did it with Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. It made the toe worse. He recovered fine. Patrick Mahomes soft tissue seems to recover great. We’ve seen that from him with the high ankle sprain. Saw it with him with the turf toe where he was ahead of schedule. But ahead of schedule for Patrick Mahomes meant that having that surgery a couple days after that Super Bowl on February 3rd, he was ready to do some stuff was the quote for OTAAS in late May and he was good to go for training camp but being ahead of schedule was February, March, April, end of May nearly four months to do quote some stuff in OTAAS. So, what we don’t know here is the difference in the severity of the damage between Patrick Mahomes, which required surgery, and Joe Burrow, which is going to immediately require surgery. But it wouldn’t be crazy to assume that Joe Burrow’s injury, at least initially, was worse because Joe had no illusions of playing through it where Patrick Mahomes managed to do so for two and a half weeks. That’s speculative, but I think could be a reasonable deduction. three months would be awesome. We would take that and and we could talk about what that would look like and what Jake Browning would have to do to to keep the Bengals afloat and all those things, but it does feel optimistic. I agree. Yeah, it does. Now, couple of things. One, we know Joe Burrow is as tough as they come. Uh, I’ve probably listened to as much about Joe Burrow and read about as much about Joe Burrow as I humanly possible probably. And I know Jimmy Burrow has said this multiple times, his father. Well, Joe’s always been a fast healer. So, that that’s always been a thing where he’s going to to push. I think his mindset is going to be to return this year. I’m hopeful that we’ll hear from Joe at some point this week. As of now, and we’re recording this on on Monday at 4 Eastern, the there’s not a a surgery date set. They’re still evaluating that part of it. And and that’s a big part of it, too. When does he actually have the surgery? Because once you have the surgery, then you can start to recover. And until then, well, it’s it’s going to, you know, there’s there’s just time burning. But I I think there’s a reason why, and Zach alluded to this a little bit and mentioned it, like there’s a reason why they can’t just do it right now and and get the the the show on the road. So hopefully it’s soon. Hopefully he can have surgery soon. Hopefully we hear about his mindset and approach. But it’s just a bummer. Like it’s just such a bummer, Jake, because if if you would have told me and when we recorded our last show together, we did I did the emergency show this morning, but our last show together after the game, even if you said two months, well, you’re like, “All right, well that there’s a realistic path that the two-0 Bengals could be relevant in two months without Joe Burrow.” But when we’re talking about three months being optimistic and and honestly for for me and I don’t want to speak for you, but I would say four months is semi like there’s a there’s a there would be a chance then let’s say they’re they’re 11 and six and going to the playoffs and we’re going really orange and black color tinted glasses with that. But like could Joe play that third week of January? Well, like there might be a a realistic shot at that. But that’s that’s so far away. Like they have to be so good as a team to get to that level, to get to that spot that it’s just it’s tough to see right now on September 15th when your franchise quarterback in in the the organization basically goes down and could potentially be out for the season. Yeah, it it is a bummer. Feels like an understatement. It’s frustrating. It’s infuriating. It’s tragic. It’s devastating. This team can win games with Jake Browning, but I don’t think that barring some renaissance from Browning, some reinvention of self, some massive development, the the like 0.001% chance that, you know, he has a Tom Brady like breakout. Like that’s what we’re talking about here when we’re talking about them being relevant in January. I think they can win team win games with Jake Browning. Sure. But that’s because they have these other stars on offense and Jake Browning has the competency to get the ball to those guys, but like yeah, I mean, we’re talking about the engine of the team and how many times we said it throughout this off season. Joe Burrow is is the thing that drives this team. Without Joe Burrow, yeah, they still have talent. There’s still guys that know how to win. But when you’re talking about true contenders, it’s a way that I’ve often joked about the Steelers over the years. Like, yeah, the Steelers are going to win some games, but who cares? Like, it’s not where you’re quite jumping to here, I would say, but like unless Joe Burrow comes back, that is where I land ultimately. Sure. Yeah, they’re they’re not going to suck. I think they’re going to be fun. They may win this week. They may go to Minnesota and win, but when you enter the season like a lot of our viewers and listeners and that a lot of people in the building and I’m at Por Stadium right now in one of the it’s called the jungle lounge right right uh next to the the Bengals locker room. when you’re thinking Lombardi and you hear about the Santa CL standard and everything that we we’ve heard over the past couple of months and offseason and when they signed Jamar and T and Joe has the best training camp he’s had and really good in the preseason where they score four touchdowns and five possessions even if they do suck right now on offense overall and they did they did in the majority what three out of the five quarters that Joe was under center I would say they they were underpar, we’ll say. You still had that belief that they’d figure it out and be one of those teams to reckon with and now it just the margin for error is so much thinner with Jake Browning versus Joe Burrow. Absolutely is. It’s week two as well. I mean, I guess if you’re going to have a long-term injury, getting it out of the way earlier in the season than later in the season is something. At least they’re two and 0. All those things we were talking about yesterday though about like maybe there’s enough cushion at 2 and 0 for them to absorb this. That’s when you’re thinking like maybe it’s a six- week injury. You know, maybe it’s a grade two that needs time but doesn’t need surgery. But then as soon as it’s like, yeah, those ligaments are torn. There’s a surgical intervention required, the the tone certainly shifts and you know, the team has to keep going. They still have to play all the games. Obviously, they still have the stars on the team. But I I’ve got some more thoughts about the the injury itself. maybe some information about what turf toe is if you haven’t gone out and and read about it yourself. I spent my morning what I do when these sorts of injuries happen, James, is I just go find all the information I can about them, read as much as I can. So, we we can talk about that a little bit as well here coming up next. This episode of Lockdown Bengals is brought to you by Mazda. I love my Mazda. I’ve been driving a Mazda 3 for a few years because Mazda crash cars. For those who do more than simply move, and when I was test driving cars, that was absolutely the case for me when I compared it to the competitors in that segment. The Mazda 3 handled nicer and the attention to detail was noteworthy. Mazda delivers confidence with every ride with more IHS top safety pick plus awards than anyone else as of August of this year. From footwork to breath work, we know athletes sweat all the details, and Mazda brings that same intention to how they craft every model they make. 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I’m not letting it go today. My man said surgical intervention.” No, it still sucks. It doesn’t sound any better or worse. Uh it’s uh because everyone knows what it is still. It’s just the fancier way to say it. So, let’s uh let’s give our audience an idea of what turf toe is because well, those ligaments I I wish I could give them my my toe ligaments because I don’t really need them as much as Joe needs his. Yeah. And if only that would help. I’m sure half of the city would be willing to cut off their entire foot for Joe. More than half. But, uh, the idea here is essentially when your toes are under extreme weightbearing, as they were when his toes are kind of trapped under his leg, you’re you’re hyper hyperextending those toes. You’re hyperflexing the toes. I guess your toes are flex pulling toward your ankle if you can imagine it. Or like if you’ve ever jumped in your life, which I imagine most of you have, a lot of times you’re you’re bending at the toes, right? And when you’re doing that under load, according to one article from ESPN, you can as an athlete load up to eight times or more than eight times your body weight onto one toe. That being your big toe. And when you exceed that pressure and when you exceed what is normal for your foot’s biomechanics, that joint can bend more degrees than it is designed to bend. instead of rotating the way that it normally would. And when that happens, there there’s a bunch of structures around this very small joint. It’s been described as a p-sized bone where all of these structures kind of come together. And whether it’s a tendon or a ligament, there’s all these structures in place that when they’re stretched, they can start to tear. Joe Burrow has a ligament tear there. This is his what third major ligament injury, not to mention minor ligament injuries between the ACL and the knee injury his rookie year, the wrist a couple of years ago and now this in his foot. It was essentially a non-cont injury. He’s pushing the the foot that is not directly contacted into the ground as he’s trying to just get away from Eric Armstead who is bringing him to the ground on the play and there’s just too much force on the toes. One uh thing to point out here is that it’s called turftoe because it started to be a much more common injury with the advent of astroturf in the 70s. Turf does have a higher incident of these injuries because it’s just a harder surface. There’s not as much give. You can see if you watch the replay, Joe’s toes really caught underneath him on that play. Maybe if it’s a nice soft, well-maintained grass field that the the field gives there a little bit more. It’s possible, but one of several reasons that there’s some injuries that are associated more with turf than grass. That that that’s why it’s called turf toe is because it was associated with turf being a much more common field for these sports to be played on and it’s most common unfortunately in football. Yeah, it it makes sense. It sounds much cuter and fuzzier than it is. And it really sucks. Like the thing that stands out to me every time that I I’ve looked and I did some research of course and there’s multiple there are go-to resources doctor-wise and physical therapy wise that I go to when there are injuries like this that I don’t know a ton about and they’ve all kind of said the same thing. But man, Sunday night before that NFL network report specifically and and I think Sher had something but really the NFL Network report where it’s like oh they think he needs surgery. It felt like max six weeks. And that’s what really sucks is the 2%. I want to hammer that home. Like of these injuries, it’s so rare to have to need surgery. And if you don’t need surgery, it wouldn’t be season ending. And he would be able to b come back at some point this year. Maybe before the buy, maybe right after the buy, but in a realistic part of fall. And we wouldn’t be talking about calendar years and maybe season ending and all of those things. So that uh that sucks because it’s such a small rare it’s not a rare injury in general but it’s rare to have it to this degree to this level to where you’re going to have to have to undergo surgery and be out for as long as he’s going to have to be out. Especially for quarterbacks at the NFL level. You see this much more commonly require surgery for receivers, for running backs, especially guys that are getting tackled frequently while they’re trying to drive forward. Much less common for quarterbacks. Like I said, Patrick Mahomes is the only example that I was able to find, James, in terms of quarterbacks that have needed surgery on this. That was after the 2020 season. Uh, but worth noting that even though he did play through it, generally that the pain is so acute here. I mean, imagine just trying to push off of any surface as an athlete without the use of your big toe. just go outside if you’re if you’re sitting in your car or whatever when you get home and and just try to like push off of your of your foot without using your big toe. Your big toe takes so much weight, you don’t think about it until you don’t have it. But generally speaking, described as as too much pain for any sort of, you know, localized painkiller. And if if you were to do something like more numbing, it’s you can’t numb the entire foot. You need to feel your foot. So like those sorts of solutions don’t really exist even if there wasn’t risk of making the injury worse. But if you try to play through it as we saw with Mahomes, you can definitely make the injury worse. And we saw this with AJ Green as well with the Cincinnati Bengals. What just a few years I guess a long time ago now, but 2018 doesn’t feel like that long ago. Yeah. Yeah. And receivers, it’s so common. I mean, that’s that’s what I think of when I I think of turf to I instantly think of receivers. Maybe some corners here and there because of that quarterback span. I mean, it’s just it really is awful luck how it how it went. And uh worth pointing out before we get into what’s next uh for the Bengals. Just diving into the fact that Daltton Risner took full blame. Shout out to him for for doing that. Not that I blamed Daltton Risner, but he talked about how he didn’t stay up or couldn’t sleep. Stayed up. And uh I went up to him before the rest of the media. There weren’t a lot of guys willing to talk on Monday. went up to him before the rest of the media and I was like, “Hey, can I ask you about yesterday?” And I literally was like, “Just what are your thoughts when you find that out about Joe?” And he literally is like, I take full blame and instantly goes into that. And that wasn’t my my thought at all. And I was the only one there that got that initial quote. Other people, you’re going to see have other quotes, but it’s just shout out to Dalton for literally going out of his way, I think, because that was not my agenda at all to to take blame for the the Joe Bro injury. give him credit for taking accountability. That is something. It it maybe isn’t a whole lot. Uh I think we can talk about that play. We can talk about a little bit of of what could be next for for Joe as well as as the Bengals here as we wrap up. And we’re going to be talking a lot about Jake Browning here over the next well several months, I guess. But uh a little bit more to get to before we talk about what’s next as well here to finish up the show. Coming up next, today’s show is brought to you by FanDuel. FanDuel is America’s number one sports book. And the NFL season is in full swing. FanDuel is making sure you’re ready for kickoff with a can’tmiss offer. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if your bet wins, you’ll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. And I looked at the Bengals Super Bowl odds, Jake, and they’re plus 8,000. plus 8,000 now following the Joe Bro injury. So maybe you’re bullish on Jake Browning and maybe you’re bullish on the idea that Joe bro will be back for the playoffs maybe sooner. Well, regardless, you got to get to FanDuel because if you’re ready to play, download the FanDuel app now and use FanDuel.com and you’re going to get started with well that first $5 bet. And when that first $5 bet wins, you’ll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. That’s fandle.com to place your first $5 bet. The one thing I wanted to hit on here uh before we just totally move off of of Joe’s injury for for today is as I was reading about turftoe and the recovery and what certain players have gone through in the past and how it can become a chronic issue if it’s not managed well. One of the things I was thinking of is, you know, in terms of the timeline of him returning, I I hope it’s not rushed in any way, shape, or form. Like I know Joe’s gonna want to be back on the field as soon as possible, right? If the Bengals are in the hunt, Joe’s gonna want to get back out there and try to play with the team and do everything he can to do so. But one, I I really hope that this thing is is long-term managed. It it is not an unprecedented recovery in the way the wrist was and you have to rebuild the wrist mechanics for a thrower versus, you know, the wrist injury that he had that is more common in other positions. This is the same sort of mobility and function that he will need to regain in that big toe as everyone else who deals with turf toe. But the way this thing can just come back and come back and come back need to need to take that rehab to its the full extent, right? And and make sure that that thing is good to go because risking the reinjury is is a spectre that is scary for me. Also wouldn’t be surprised if he revisits his footwear in the future Jades and goes with a more firm sole. Like there there are certain sorts of things that they can do for these to prevent that that part of the shoe from bending to the angle that would cause this kind of injury. Wouldn’t be surprising to me to see Joe revisit that in the future after his recovery. Man, oh man. New sponsor deal with Aloe. the Joe Burrow all aloe soles that you need to prevent any type of uh toe injury. I like the idea of that. There’s something behind that, Joe. If that happens, um I’m going to need a cut. Anyways, uh but before and I hope that happens and I hope he has special souls for December. By the way, I’m not trying to pour water on that. I just think it’s unrealistic and I think you feel the same way. Uh you know the other thing that I think is unrealistic, Jake? Uh Kurt Cousins be becoming a Bengal. I I don’t I don’t think that uh they’re going after Kirk Cousins. By the way, I wouldn’t necessarily say like on paper like they shouldn’t, but I I don’t think that that’s something that they’re discussing. And even if the contract wasn’t a major issue, I still don’t think that they would, and it is. I still don’t think they would be jumping at that. and then the other guys we can talk about. But yeah, Kirk, I just I think it’s unrealistic now. In two weeks, if something happened to Jake Browning, would they go that route? I who knows? But I think Jake Browning is uh is their guy for sure. Yeah, I think Kirk the salary just makes that totally untenable. I think there’s guaranteed $10 million next year, too. It’s like a 20 something million salary this year. So, even if they were to were to acquire him, they’d have to redo his deal. and it doesn’t seem like something the Bengals will want to really consider. And and I think part of it is that they probably don’t think that it would be much better than what they’re going to get from Jake Browning. And you’d have to like bring him in and and get him up to speed and build this whole offense run. I think they’re looking for backup solutions for Jake Browning, whether that is practice squad additions so that they have additional depth or supposedly they’re inquiring around for for veterans that are available that apparently they’ve called about Malik Willis according to some reports or suggestions. I don’t buy that. I don’t buy that at all, by the way. Fair enough. Uh but they’re they’re sniffing around four quarterbacks. That was an Adam Shfter tweet for sure. They’re looking for for something, but it’s not going to be, you know, a starting needle mover. Like Jameus Winston is the other big one that I’ve seen thrown around. Well, see, I would say they should go after Jameus Winston with the idea that he’s your backup. I like I think and and they want look the Bengals want someone that isn’t going to go throw and I guess Jake Browning just did but is going to be able to run their offense and not throw three picks and be so hot and cold and usually Jake isn’t that way in in their minds at least right but for a because now your backup like especially if you’re going to stay afloat for Joe to come back you need to ask yourself is Brett Ripen the practice squad quarterback is that the guy is that the guy that you want to be one play away from having to start? And if the answer is no, then maybe you can acquire Jameus Winston who has a manageable contract. Here’s the problem is he is a a bigname former number one overall pick. And if you put that at backup quarterback behind Jake undrafted Browning, it it makes it tough because everyone the moment Jake Browning screws up is going to say, “All right, well, we want Jameus Winston.” They’re going to be guys in the locker room that buy in on Jameus Winston. And so that is there’s a delicate balance there. But do I think Jameus Winston would make them better? Absolutely. But I think bringing him in as the backup would be the right call. And that’s that’s just tough to do considering you’d be trading for him and all the things that come with it. Maybe that’s part of the job of the coaching staff. Maybe that is the right thing to do and you need to manage that. Right. Do it. But but then I’m in I think the reason you point that out is that you understand perhaps why they wouldn’t make that kind of move. Sure. I think there’s a pretty good argument that like yeah, you should make sure your backup is as good as it could be. There’s been an argument in the past couple of years to try to improve on Jake Browning at that spot, but Jake Browning is so cost controlled compared to Carson Mud’s likely starting for the Minnesota Vikings this weekend, right? like they had to pay a whole lot more money for that level of backup quarterback versus Jake Browning at, you know, league minimum essentially just over a million dollars because he is a costc controlled undrafted free agent exclusive rights free agent that kind of the Bengals bought out his exclusive right free agent years. So that’s why it is what it is there. But they will make a move for a backup quarterback. We’ll see who that turns out to be. uh from from what I’ve heard that there aren’t needle movers that are in the conversation right now, James, but it’s going to be Jake Browning’s show, which means once again, you know, we’re going to sit here and and go back and look at the tape and see, okay, what’s Jake Browning doing differently than Joe Burrow, how our defense is playing the Bengals differently with Jake Browning than Joe Burrow, which Zack Taylor said they weren’t for the Jacksonville Jaguars when I think it was you that asked that question, asked him about it in his presser, there’s definitely differences. I I would say that there were some differences. Yeah, I agree. I I think that that touchdown to T. Higgins is a a great example of one of those differences. Um but you know, then again, the Bengals got a zero look and Jamar Chase on a touchdown on a slant with Joe Burrow in the game in the red zone earlier. So, uh maybe that’s just who who the Jaguars defensive coordinator is. Regardless, there will be changes coming to this offense. And unfortunately, we have to have that conversation again of, well, what’s the scheme look like with Jake Browning? Why did it look better? Why was the pass protection graded higher? What what are those trade-offs that happen when Jake Browning is in a quarterback who’s obviously a worse quarterback than Joe Burrow, but yeah, has been productive in this offense in the past. You know who they should call? I’ll just give you a name. Go ahead. A Bengal killer. Lannaro would be so nervous that he would be within 200 miles of him. Mike Flight White. Mike Flight White, take it. Where is Mike White? He’s a free agent. Dead serious. Like, bring I thought he had like a workout this week or something. I feel like I’ve seen his name in the news recently. He might He might have uh other guy like Taylor Hineki would be interesting, but no, I think I think Mike Flight White Flight White print the jersey right now. Flight White on the back of a jersey. I just got you excited, didn’t I? Mike Flight White. I don’t I don’t know if excited is a word. No, Jamus would get you excited. Jamus would be fun. It’s a backup. Yeah, there it could be fun. I don’t know about exciting. I don’t know. It’s It’s pretty hard to be excited about. I agree right now. I’d be excited if Joe Burrow got Jameus Winston’s toe ligaments. That’s what I’d be excited about. Wishing Joe Burrow the best in his recovery. Of course. Hopefully we find out about that surgery soon. Hopefully the surgery happens soon. I’m sure they’re they’re just taking all appropriate steps to uh to maximize that recovery, give him the best shot at at recovering as quickly as possible. And yeah, you’re right. Hopefully, we hear from Joe. Uh he did talk to the media last time he had a season ender and we’ll see if that’s the case this time around. But that’s going to do it for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. As there’s more information, we’ll continue to have you covered, but we’re going to take a look at the film and well, it’s on to Minnesota. Until then, thanks for listening. today. And having a good

The Cincinnati Bengals could be without Joe Burrow for the rest of the 2025 season. Turf toe sounds innocuous, but it’s an extremely painful and debilitating injury that requires surgery 2% of the time, and Joe Burrow is unlucky.

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40 comments
  1. The Jaguars rushed four, and it still got home. Maybe it's best Joe sits this year out so he doesn't get hurt anymore.They can use this years top 5 draft pick on a good OL. Who Dey!

  2. Burrow is made of glass, you can't even protect him from little plays like this. This team will never win anything with him at QB, he just can't stay on the field.

  3. Spent the entire offseason talking about contract disputes. Now the season is finally here and we're talking about a super rare injury that will likely keep our franchise QB out for the season. Gotta love being a Bengals fan.

  4. Injury-prone QB for years to come. Not all the O-line's fault. Except for the knee, these are weak body injuries he's suffered. Standard tackles/plays and his body can't hold up. Love Burrow, but it is what it is. Believe in Browning is the new motto.

  5. Jake Browning is no schlep on or off the field. Hes been a successful QB his whole life too. The key now is to get a vet backup and cater the game plans to HIS strengths. Sure we wish it was Joe but gotta refocus now

  6. Stay in WC hunt. Then see where we are the home game vs Baltimore. Imagine if hes back that night the game is flexed into SNF and the ratings go haywire. That would give us plenty time of season left. Miami on SNF was NEVER happening UNLESS that one is Joes return??

  7. UNPOPULAR OPINION: Loved Burrow. It’s over. 3 out of 6 years he can’t finish. Availability is part of greatness. He had a great window between 2021 and 2022. The loss at KC in AFC Championship game was the time Cincy could win. Burrow has been underwhelming since big contract. I know the stats from last year, BUT Burrow did not come through in big games, fumbling against KC, interception at home vs Ravens and not getting a final TD drive despite plenty of opportunities vs Chargers. Burrow starts off too slow and the organization cannot protect him. They have tried. They are not a premier organization. They don’t go all in on protection, but they drafted two guards after signing multiple tackles since 2021. The reality is if the Bengals are in the hunt in late December: Browning (who will be a NFL starter next year), deserves a chance.

    Bengals will go 10-7.

  8. The Bengals organization has repeatedly failed to protect its most important player in franchise history. Burrow has already been sacked more than Andrew Luck was in his entire career. Their failure to protect Joe Burrow is unforgiveable and defies reason.

  9. This season is over… sorry but is the true, and this team have ruin JB career… it’s embarrasing how all of us knew that the OL wasn’t ready since like 6 years ago and this Offseason all the stupid personel at the FO and Coaching staff was confortable with they where they always “resolver” the OL! We should talk about superbowls and now we are talking about Browning?

  10. Now we can add Glass Joe to his Choke Burrow nickname now. I guess if there is a good thing about this is that we don't have to here James drool all over Glass Joe all season. Now the real JB can stand up.

  11. Guys I've been a die hard Bengals fan since a child I grew up walking distance from the stadium unfortunately i learned the Bengals are one of only five teams to not honor Charlie Kirk after his passing though it is indeed a free country I am also free to not support them in any way they had no problem shoving BLM down our throats but can't have one moment for Charlie I'm out.

  12. Not sure why everyone is so upset by this. 2023 when Burrow went down they were 5-5 with Browning they were 4-3. Damn y'all act like there is a big difference. Burrow on this year in 5 qtrs has like 189 yds 2tds passing in 2 qtrs Browning has 241 yds 2 tds. Yea he had 3 picks but that will get cleaned up. Burrow isn't this great Elite Qb you all fantasize about. He is just an Avg Joe. His career w/l record is 39-34. One year they went 12-4 take that year (which is the anomaly) he is an under 500 win record. Someone please show me where I am wrong here.. I will wait. He put up huge numbers at the end of last year against if I remember right 6 of the bottom 10 defenses against the top defenses he struggled. Because you all have this delusion he is better than he really is that doesn't change the actual facts. Let's go Jake Browning. This is not the disaster y'all think it is.

  13. I have a genetic disorder that causes weak ligaments. I wonder if Burrow has it too. I wonder if they ever test athletes for that kind of thing. There are ways to treat it so it's not so problematic

  14. I have faith in Jake Browning will get to the playoffs and maybe the Superbowl we still have all our weapons and Jake will get it done with them I know there going to be a lot of people with negative vibes so you can kiss my AZZ because we are going to the Superbowl plus I don't want to lose the 100 dollars I have on them to win it 😂

  15. The Bengals organization as a whole makes it really really really hard to keep rooting for them. Mike Brown just wants money, Duke Tobin is about as incompetent as they come, Zac Taylor IS NOT A GOOD HC!!!!!!! You 100% can’t change my mind that Zac is a good HC… he’s a leader of men and that’s it… I see alot of people gonna be like Joe and sit this season out 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ as a football fan, Bengals, yall suck as a whole, respectfully

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