According to the new betting odds, Aaron Judge and Cal Raleigh are tied for a chance at MVP
September 22, 2025
According to the new betting odds, Aaron Judge and Cal Raleigh are tied for a chance at MVP
17 comments
This race is gonna be talked about for a long time
This means less than nothing.
Judge about to be robbed for the second time in his career.
I’m obviously rooting for Cal, but Judge is an amazing player and very deserving should he win the award.
Considering their wars on fangraphs are pretty close (9.2 for judge and 8.8 for cal), Cal will probably take it if he can get to 60 and the Mariners clinch the division.
George Springer is on a better team.
Aaron judge leads in every single category, besides home runs. I don’t understand how this is remotely close.
We haven’t seen a season like this from a catcher in a very long time.
Would love to see Big Dumper win it and Mariners win the division.
This kinda feels like the MVP award during LeBron’s prime. Everybody knows Aaron Judge is the best player in the American League and he’s going to continue to be. The question is whether or not you let him string together consecutive MVP awards, or you reward a historical season like Cal’s by pretending Judge isn’t the best player in the league for a moment.
Oh my god I can’t believe we’re even entertaining this idea that Cal Raleigh is in the MVP conversation, like hello have you ever heard of WAR because Aaron Judge leads all of baseball in WAR which is basically the holy scripture of value, but no let’s all drool over some guy hitting .246 because he happens to swing a bat really hard in Seattle where nobody watches baseball anyway, and don’t even get me started on these betting odds nonsense because sportsbooks will literally make up anything to get nerds to light their money on fire, meanwhile Judge is out here hitting .320 with a bazillion home runs and walking like he’s allergic to outs, but sure let’s pretend a squatty catcher with a dad-bod stance and a batting average that looks like my GPA freshman year is suddenly Babe Ruth reincarnated, give me a break, this isn’t a conversation it’s a comedy routine and the punchline is Mariners fans acting like Judge doesn’t already own the trophy
Screw it, Co-MVPs and make everyone mad for years
If it was an actual question of value to their team and not just stat matchup, Cal wins without it even being close IMO, but he probably won’t, and that sucks.
I still say if Cal hits 63, he gets the mvp
Thursday Dumper was +375
I think what people are missing is that “value” is subjective in this context. There isn’t a rubric or firm guidelines.
If it was intended to go only to the player with better stats, then the process of voting would essentially be useless.
The reality is that things like storylines, broken records, and leading playoff-deprived teams to the postseason matter to the voters. It all adds to their perceived value.
I’m not a media specialist, but I’d also argue that Cal’s season is even more impressive because these storylines come from a player in a much smaller market than New York. Seattle has less of an influence on the media than New York does yet Cal is all over social media.
You can agree or disagree, but people shouldn’t be surprised if Cal gets it.
judge is gonna get fucked over twice and lose this time for the same argument that made him lose to altuve. the anti yankees bias is so real fr fr.
If you look at the raw numbers, I think Judge has 19 more hits and 18 more RBIs than Cal. So would you rather have those extra hits and RBIs or would you rather have a switch hitting catcher?
And a follow up question would be if you got to choose one of these two players’ season for your team, who would you rather have Aaron or Cal ?
I’m hard pressed to believe people wouldn’t choose the switch hitting catcher, who has played in all but 3 games.
17 comments
This race is gonna be talked about for a long time
This means less than nothing.
Judge about to be robbed for the second time in his career.
I’m obviously rooting for Cal, but Judge is an amazing player and very deserving should he win the award.
Considering their wars on fangraphs are pretty close (9.2 for judge and 8.8 for cal), Cal will probably take it if he can get to 60 and the Mariners clinch the division.
George Springer is on a better team.
Aaron judge leads in every single category, besides home runs. I don’t understand how this is remotely close.
We haven’t seen a season like this from a catcher in a very long time.
Would love to see Big Dumper win it and Mariners win the division.
This kinda feels like the MVP award during LeBron’s prime. Everybody knows Aaron Judge is the best player in the American League and he’s going to continue to be. The question is whether or not you let him string together consecutive MVP awards, or you reward a historical season like Cal’s by pretending Judge isn’t the best player in the league for a moment.
Oh my god I can’t believe we’re even entertaining this idea that Cal Raleigh is in the MVP conversation, like hello have you ever heard of WAR because Aaron Judge leads all of baseball in WAR which is basically the holy scripture of value, but no let’s all drool over some guy hitting .246 because he happens to swing a bat really hard in Seattle where nobody watches baseball anyway, and don’t even get me started on these betting odds nonsense because sportsbooks will literally make up anything to get nerds to light their money on fire, meanwhile Judge is out here hitting .320 with a bazillion home runs and walking like he’s allergic to outs, but sure let’s pretend a squatty catcher with a dad-bod stance and a batting average that looks like my GPA freshman year is suddenly Babe Ruth reincarnated, give me a break, this isn’t a conversation it’s a comedy routine and the punchline is Mariners fans acting like Judge doesn’t already own the trophy
Screw it, Co-MVPs and make everyone mad for years
If it was an actual question of value to their team and not just stat matchup, Cal wins without it even being close IMO, but he probably won’t, and that sucks.
I still say if Cal hits 63, he gets the mvp
Thursday Dumper was +375
I think what people are missing is that “value” is subjective in this context. There isn’t a rubric or firm guidelines.
If it was intended to go only to the player with better stats, then the process of voting would essentially be useless.
The reality is that things like storylines, broken records, and leading playoff-deprived teams to the postseason matter to the voters. It all adds to their perceived value.
I’m not a media specialist, but I’d also argue that Cal’s season is even more impressive because these storylines come from a player in a much smaller market than New York. Seattle has less of an influence on the media than New York does yet Cal is all over social media.
You can agree or disagree, but people shouldn’t be surprised if Cal gets it.
judge is gonna get fucked over twice and lose this time for the same argument that made him lose to altuve. the anti yankees bias is so real fr fr.
If you look at the raw numbers, I think Judge has 19 more hits and 18 more RBIs than Cal. So would you rather have those extra hits and RBIs or would you rather have a switch hitting catcher?
And a follow up question would be if you got to choose one of these two players’ season for your team, who would you rather have Aaron or Cal ?
I’m hard pressed to believe people wouldn’t choose the switch hitting catcher, who has played in all but 3 games.