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STADIUM AND BE A PART OF IT AND SEE WHAT WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT. YOU KNOW, THE PACKERS ARE COMING OFF OF A DISAPPOINTING LOSS TO THE BROWNS AND I THOUGHT THEY’D HAVE A LITTLE MORE TO PROVE A LITTLE MORE PUNCH, A LITTLE MORE SOMETHING. AND AS YOU SAID THAT, THAT ALL TURNED, WHEN THE COWBOYS DO THE BANG BANG 2 TOUCHDOWNS AT THE END OF THE HALF BUT THEIR THEIR OFFENSE IS GOOD ENOUGH BUT AS WELL YEAH, THEY WERE DOMINANT AGAINST THE LINES. I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT. THIS IS A TEAM THAT HAD THE LIONS TO WHAT WAS THE SCORE, 36. IT WAS UNDER 10 POINTS, WASN’T IT? ALRIGHT, AND, UH, 40 LAST NIGHT TO THE COWBOYS, IT IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING HAPPENED AFTER THAT, WASHINGTON GAME 2713 2713, OKAY, SOMETHING HAPPENED AFTER THAT WASHINGTON GAME WHERE? OKAY, THIS DEFENSE IS GETTING FIGURED OUT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT THAT’S GOT TO BE CAUSE FOR CONCERN FOR THE PACKERS. YOU KNOW, THE, THE COWBOYS COME OUT OF THIS LOOKING LIKE A BETTER TEAM THAN WE EXPECTED AND THE PACKERS. NOW, YEAH, LESS THAN 2 WEEKS AFTER 1 OF THEIR STARTERS. ON OFFENSE IS TALKING ABOUT GOING ON DEFEATED, THEY’RE 2-1 AND 1 AND YOU GOT TO WONDER HOW GOOD THEY REALLY ARE. YOU DON’T MESS WITH THE FOOTBALL GUYS. WE’VE LEARNED THAT LESSON A FEW TIMES HERE, THIS THIS YEAR, SO FAR, YOU, YOU JUST DON’T MAKE COMMENTS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW. BUT BUT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK GREEN BAY IS STILL REALLY GOOD. THEIR BIGGEST THING IS THEY LET A GAME LAST WEEK SLIP AWAY AND CLEVELAND WHERE THEIR DEFENSE DID PLAY? WELL, THEY PLAYED A GREAT DEFENSE IN CLEVELAND AND LUCKILY, WE SAW LAST NIGHT MESSED UP SOME SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL IN THE CLEVELAND GAME. THAT ULTIMATELY BLEW IT FOR THEM. THEY WERE GOING TO WIN THE GAME OF J. JORDAN LOVE DOESN’T THROW AN INTERCEPTION LATE IN THE FOURTH QUARTER AND AND AND GIVE THEM THE BALL AT THE 4 YARD LINE TO WHERE CLEVELAND FINALLY GETS IN TO SCORE A TOUCHDOWN. SO I I STILL LIKE EVERYTHING I SEE ABOUT GREEN BAY BUT THE OFFENSE IS EXPLOSIVE. BUT IT TALKED ABOUT THEY WERE YEAH, LESS THAN 2 WEEKS AFTER IS AND ALL THE THINGS YOU 13. TO2 HAD THE BALL A FEW TIMES WITH A CHANCE TO GO. OOH, YOU COULD REALLY PUT DALLAS IN A TOUGH SPOT. SPOT IN THE SECOND QUARTER THEY DIDN’T COME THROUGH IN THOSE MOMENTS. THERE’S A PART ABOUT THEM THAT I LOVE BECAUSE THEY’RE EXTREMELY EXPLOSIVE AND AGGRESSIVE IN THE PAST GAME, THEIR PATIENT AND PHYSICAL AND THE RUN GAME, BUT THEY DO YOU KNOW SPOT IN THE SECOND QUARTER, IT SOMETIMES LOSE A, YOU ELEMENT, RIGHT? IT’S ALMOST LIKE WELL, IF HE DOESN’T HIT DON’T SEEM THE TEAM THAT’S GOING TO GO 7 YEARS, 6 HERE, 5 HERE AND DO THAT. IT’S ALL PREDICATED ON. CAN WE GET THAT 1? BIG PLAY TO JUMP, START THE DRIVE AND BECAUSE OF THAT A TIME, THEY CAN BE A LITTLE SLOPPY AND INCONSISTENT. AND THAT’S WHERE ALSO I THINK, MATT LAFLEUR, AND HAVING TO MANAGE NOT. HE’S NOT THE TOP GUYS, YET. HE’S NOT THE MACHINE THAT YOU CAN JUST TRUST IN EVERY SITUATION. RIGHT. I THINK THAT’S HOW I LOOK AT IT. HE HE’S GOT A CHANCE TO GET THERE AND HE’S GOT INCREDIBLE TALENT, BUT BY WHAT WE SAW AT THE END OF THE HALF AGAIN. YEAH, MATT LAFLUER HAS TO MANAGE THE SITUATION AND ALSO HELP JORDAN LOVE IN THAT SITUATION. WE KNOW, JORDAN LOVES GOING TO SIT BACK THERE AND PAT THE BALL AND HOLD BACK THERE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. AND SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO SAVE THE PLAYER FROM HIMSELF IN THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS AND HE WAS LOOKING TO THROW THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD AGAIN IN THAT MOMENT OR LIKE WE SAW AT THE END OF THE GAME. VERY RELAXED. LUCKY TO GET THAT THROW OFF. THAT’S SOMETHING. I THINK THEY NEED TO TINKER WITH A LITTLE BIT HERE AS THEY GO FORWARD. THAT’S A GREAT POINT. WHAT DO YOU DO AS A PRACTICAL MATTER TO GET THE GUY? YEAH, TO BECOME THE GUY. YEAH, THAT HE COULD BE RIGHT. IF THERE WAS JUST A IS IT TO IT? AND I I, I WANT TO USE THE RIGHT WORD BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW WHERE THE SWITCH IS. IT NEEDS TO BE FLIPPED, SWITCH NEEDS TO BE FLIPPED EXPERIENCE, STILL RIGHT? MAYBE SOME MOMENTS LIKE WE SAW LAST WEEK IN THE BROWNS GAME. AND LAST NIGHT THAT HIT HOME AND GO DAMN, THAT, THAT WAS BIG THERE. I GOT TO KIND OF READJUST HOW I THINK HERE AND CERTAIN MOMENTS AND HOW I PLAY. YOU CAN’T JUST GO OUT THERE ALL THE TIME AND GO, I’M GONNA BE AGGRESSIVE, I’M GONNA LET IT FLY. THERE’S MOMENTS LIKE IN GREEN BAY, LIKE, UH, IN CLEVELAND LAST WEEK AND YOU JUST GO. HEY, SOMETIMES THE DEFENSE WINS WE’RE GONNA HAVE TO PUNT. WE’RE GONNA HAVE TO LIVE TO PLAY ANOTHER DAY AND WE’RE GONNA MOVE ON LIKE THAT AND THEY HAVE A, A TENDENCY TO, TO KIND OF PUSH THE ENVELOPE A LOT AT TIMES. AND UH, WE’VE SEEN A BITE THEM IN THE BUTT. A LITTLE BIT LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR. SO LET ME THROW THIS AH YEAH BECAUSE I LOVE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL ELEMENTS OF QUARTERBACKS IT AND I WANT TO, I DON’T I DON’T WANT TO PUT THIS ON MATT FLOUR BUT I THINK BACK TO THE AUDIBLE THING WHEN AARON RODGERS GOT THERE. THERE WAS THE TUG OF WAR BETWEEN HOW MUCH MICROMANAGEMENT THE QUARTERBACK WAS GOING TO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE QUARTERBACK IS BEING MANAGED TO AN EXTENT WHERE THE QUARTERBACK JUST SAYS FINE. I JUST WORK HERE. I MEAN YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT TO DO AND I’LL DO IT AND IF YOU’RE TOO MUCH IN THE MINDSET OF YOU JUST DO IT. TO A INITIATIVE. YEAH. TO. HEY, YOU DIDN’T TELL ME TO DO THAT. I’M JUST DOING WHAT HE TELLS ME TO DO OWNERSHIP, RIGHT? I GUESS THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH I I THINK THERE’S PART OF THAT WHERE IF I LOOK AT JORDAN LOVE, THAT’S ANOTHER PART OF HIS GAME THAT CAN GO UP. HE’S VERY RELAXED, HE’S CALM, HE’S ALWAYS LIKE THIS. BUT AS WE’VE SEEN, WE’VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH JUSTIN HERBERT, YOU GOT TO YELL AT SOME GUYS EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU GOT TO SHOW AN EDGE, RIGHT? YOU GOT TO BE THE GUY, COACH IN YOUR YOUR TALENT. GUY IN THE HUDDLE AND GO. HEY GUYS, BLAH BLAH BLAH, YOU CATCH A BALL HERE, GET DOWN, WE GOT TO SPIKE THE BALL. YOU GOT TO BE ON TOP OF THOSE THINGS AND TAKE, TAKE YOUR GAME AS FAR AS THE MENTAL ASPECT. LIKE WE SEE A LOT OF THE GREAT ONES WHO ARE BASICALLY EXTENSIONS OF COACHES ON THE FIELD, RIGHT? I THINK THAT’S THE FEELING WE GET. WHEN YOU WATCH MAHOMES BURROW, JOSH ALLEN WHERE THEY KNOW THE SITUATION’S. EXACTLY. AND THEREFORE THEY’VE NOT ONLY PRACTICED THEM TALKED ABOUT IT WITH THE COACH, BUT THEY’RE IN THE GAME IN SUCH A CAPACITY AND OBSESSED WITH IT THAT THEY JUST KNOW HOW TO HANDLE. ALL THOSE SITUATIONS THE RIGHT WAY TOO. AND I THINK THAT’S STILL YOUNG IN JORDAN LOVE AND I THINK WE CAN’T FORGET THAT. IT’S ONLY BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF REALLY OF HIM STARTING AND PLAYING GOOD FOOTBALL. THE INJURIES LAST YEAR, HAVE SET HIM BACK A LITTLE BIT. UH, HE’S GOT BIG TIME TALENT BUT THERE’S SOME THINGS HE’S GOT TO SMOOTH OUT WELL AND HE WAS STUCK FOR 3 YEARS AS A BYSTANDER TO THE WHOLE AARON RODGERS FRONT OFFICE DYSFUNCTION. AND YOU JUST WONDER, HOW MUCH OF THAT LIKE, HE WENT 3 YEARS KNOWING HIS PLACE AND I KNOW MY PLACE AND AT SOME POINT. YEAH. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING TO GET HIM TO TAKE CHARGE, LIKE, JIM HARBAUGH HAS DONE WITH JUSTIN HERBERT. THERE’S GOT RIGHT? TO GET THIS THING STARTED. SO HE IS NEXT LEVEL, BECAUSE THE PHYSICAL SKILLS ARE THERE. I MEAN, LAST NIGHT, 20 31 FOR 43 337 YARDS, 3 TOUCHDOWN OFFENSE WAS CLICKING ROMEO DOBS HAS CLEARLY BECOME HIS GUY 3, TOUCHDOWN CATCHES FOR ROMEO DOSE AND THAT’S YEAH. TO TALK ABOUT FROM THAT GAME, BUT THEY THEY STILL ARE LACKING CHRISTIAN WATSON AND JAYLEN REED IS INJURED. AND THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE THE WEAPONS OF THE KILLER AWESOME SO FAR, JOSH JACOBS ENDED UP IN A COUPLE OF THE TOUCHDOWNS IN A COUPLE OF THE TOUCHDOWNS A BIG NIGHT, THE OFFENSE HAD THE OFFENSE WAS ROLLING, THE OFFENSE WAS REALLY GOOD BUT YOU KNOW YOU GOT YOU JUST GOT TO FINISH YOU KNOW, THEY IT FELT INEVITABLE. THEY WERE GOING THAT GAME. AND HOW MANY DRIVES DO WE SEE? JUST KIND OF PETER OUT THE CLOSER, YOU GET TO THE END ZONE AND I DON’T KNOW, IS IT? I I GUESS IT’S BECAUSE THE FIELD JUST STARTS TO SHRINK THE THE OVER THE TOP STUFF’S GONE. SO THE CLOSER YOU GET, YOU, YOU GOT 22 GUYS PACKED IN A TIGHTER AND TIGHTER AND TIGHTER SPACE. AND I I THINK YOU JUST BECOME CONSCIOUS OF THE CLOCK AND THE DOWNS. AND THE 3 AND THE 7 AND OR 6, IT WOULD BE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER IF THEY HAD SCORED 6. BUT THE THE THE THE WHOLE THING FELT LIKE IT WENT FROM CLICKING AND CLICKING AND CLICKING ON THAT LAST DRIVE OF OVER CAUTIOUS AND CAREFUL UNTIL THEY GOT DOWN TO THE CLOCK MANAGEMENT THING. BUT RIGHT. RIGHT. RIGHT. WELL, I THINK THEY GOT DOWN THERE, LIKE YOU SAID AND THEY GET DOWN THERE AND THEN OKAY, YOU WANT TO SCORE A TOUCHDOWN? BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU’RE GOING. WE DON’T WANT TO MESS THIS UP AND MAKE A MISTAKE AND THE RED ZONE. IT’S, YOU KNOW, TO, TO WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. IT IS, IT’S TOUGH. THE ROOM FOR ERROR IS MINIMAL AND THE WINDOWS TO THROW THE BALL ARE MINIMAL. YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THING IS. YEAH THERE’S NOT THE SAFETIES DON’T HAVE TO BACK UP, RIGHT? THERE’S ABOUT SO THEY CAN SIT THERE. AND BREAK ON ANYTHING KIND OF IN FRONT OF THEM OR PARALLEL TO THEM. AND THAT’S WHAT MAKES IT TOUGH IN THE RED ZONE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, WHEN YOU, I’M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. BUT I WANT, I WANT TO SAY THIS BEFORE, I FORGET ABOUT IT, WHEN YOU THAT CAME BEFORE THE TICK, TICK, TICK, TICK TICK AND THE THROW TO THE END ZONE THAT THAT LEFT THEM WITH 1 SECOND. I ALMOST WONDER WHETHER OR NOT THE PACKERS WERE HYPER AWARE. OF THE WHOLE LATE GAME. LIKE IF WE’RE HERE, WE DON’T WANT BRANDON AUBREY TO BE 1 COMPLETION AWAY FROM A 70 YARDER AND WE LOSE RIGHT? AND THE THE KICKOFF RULES THAT’S THE BIGGEST UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. I THINK IT DRAMATICALLY ALTERS THOSE LATE GAME STRATEGIES. AND I JUST WONDER IF THE PACKERS MAY HAVE OUTSMARTED THEMSELVES THINKING, OKAY, WE’RE GOING TO SCORE A TOUCHDOWN OR WIN, OR WE’RE GOING TO END UP KICKING A FIELD GOAL. AND IF WE END UP KICKING A FIELD GOAL, WE WANT THERE TO BE. NO TIME ON THE ALMOST THEY THEY ALMOST GOT WE DON’T WANT BRANDON AUBREY THERE’S ALMOST THEY THEY BUT I JUST WONDER BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE A WEIRD PLAY CALL THERE THE LITTLE PAST OF THE FLAT. NOW I MEAN JORDAN LOVE WAS LOOKING TO GO FARTHER DOWN THE FIELD, YOU DON’T THROW THAT BATTLE UP AT THAT POINT, THAT THROW IS POINTLESS. THOSE ARE THINGS. I’M WE’RE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE THINGS. SO, WHAT SHOULD YOU HAVE DONE? INSTEAD THE 4 YDS IS NOT WORTH THE TIME, RIGHT? THE HELL WOULD THE 4 YARDS? JUST THROW IT OUT ABOUT THROW IT OUT OF BOUNDS. HEY NOW WE HAVE 2 MORE SHOTS TO THROW THE BALL INTO THE END ZONE INSTEAD OF JUST THE 1 RIGHT? THOSE ARE AGAIN. I’M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE LITTLE THINGS THAT HE NEEDS TO GET BETTER AT LET BE THERE AFTER MAKING THAT COMPLETION. IT’S LIKE JUST SITTING THERE. I I AT FIRST WAS LIKE, DO THEY THINK THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL AND THIS IS GOING TO GO OVER TO THE NEXT LIKE QUARTER LIKE, ARE THEY DID THEY THINK THIS IS CHIEF 49ERS? I I REALLY SAID THAT ARE THEY DOING? AND AGAIN, I USE THE WORD URGENCY BECAUSE JUST LIKE THE END OF THE FIRST HALF, THEY SAY, SAID HUT AND HE’S RELAXED. LIKE WELL, LET ME SEE IF I CAN BUY SOME MORE TIME TO WHERE YOU’RE GOING. OH MY GOSH. THROW THE BALL AWAY, OR THROW IT INTO THE FIELD GOAL. SO THAT THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK YES, HE HE COULD BE BETTER AT AND THEN MATT LAFLEUR CAN HELP HIM TOO. AND AND THOSE ARE THINGS WHERE THE COACH CAN GET IN YOUR EAR, JON GRUDEN WOULD HAVE BEEN IN WELL, HE MIGHT HAVE SAID A FEW MORE THAN YOUR EAR BUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN. HE’D HAVE BEEN IN SOMETHING ELSE. GET A SHOT AT THE END ZONE OR THROW IT AWAY, RIGHT? YOU GOT TO THROW THOSE REMINDERS OUT THERE EVERY NOW AND THEN JUST TO THE QUARTERBACK. THE QUARTERBACK’S GOT A LOT TO OF THE GAME AND AND BY QUARTERBACK STANDARDS, HE’S MAKING THE RIGHT PLAY THERE BY THROWING THE BALL IN THE FLAT AND MOST OF ANY TIME ANYWHERE BUT NOT IN THAT MOMENT RIGHT THERE. THAT’S WHY WE CALL IT SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL AND YOU GOT TO DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THERE AND UH, OF COURSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE DANCING THE FINE LINE OF DANGER THERE. YOU KNOW, HE WAS DRAFTED IN 2021, HE’S ONLY BEEN PLAYING FOR A FEW SEASONS NOW, FOR SOME GUYS LIKE TUA, HE JUST KIND OF IS WHERE HE IS AND HE’S NOT GOING TO GET MUCH BETTER AND WHO KNOWS? HOW MUCH WORSE, BUT WE’VE, WE’VE KIND OF DISCOVERED THE CEILING. WHERE DO YOU? DO YOU THINK THE CEILING IS FOR JORDAN LAW? I THINK JORDAN LOVE CAN BE. TOP 5 6ISH. LIKE IN THAT CONVERSATION RIGHT? I DO I THINK HE’S GOT THE T, THE TALENT TO BE 1 OF THE THE BEST QUARTERBACKS IN FOOTBALL. I’M NOT SURE IF I SEE THE CEILING TO BE LIKE JOSH ALLEN LAMAR MAHOMES, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT’S A SPECIAL GROUP THERE, BUT COULD HE LEARN TO PLAY IN A WAY? WHERE IT’S MAYBE MORE LIKE, JOE BURROW, WHERE HE CAN BE SURGICAL. I MAKE A PLAY WITH MY LEGS EVERY NOW AND THEN BUT I’M ALL OVER EVERY SITUATION AND I’M ACCURATE, AS ACCURATE AS HELL, AND AND DICING YOU UP. I DON’T KNOW IF HE’S GOING TO GET THAT ACCURACY. LIKE A BURROW HAS, BUT SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. I THINK HE DOES HAVE THAT TALENT TO BE RIGHT ON THE FRINGE OF THAT. I THINK THAT’S KIND OF HOW I LOOK AT IT. YOU JUST GOT TO IRON OUT THE THINGS THAT WILL RESONATE AFTER A GAME LIKE THE THROW AGAINST CLEVELAND THIS FORGET ABOUT ANYTHING YOU DID AND IT’S NOT LIKE THEY HAD 40 POINTS AGAINST THE BROWNS, THEY ONLY HAD 10, BUT THAT THROW BECOMES THE THING THAT FANS POINT TO AND SAY WE’RE PAYING HIM TOO MUCH MONEY, RIGHT? HE’S SUPPOSED TO COME THROUGH IN THOSE MOMENTS. HE’S GOT TO COME THROUGH. CAN’T MAKE YOU

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21 comments
  1. Give me a break! RELAX – Love threw three TD passes and no INTs while under constant pressure. He played great. Jeez. The Packers are easily 4-0 without a few fluke plays and some "playing not to lose" at the end of the games. The Packers scored 40 pts ad Dak got two receptions that could easily hvae gone the other way. So much analysis is clouded by win or lose. Love plays the same game but wins because we dont get a blocked kick, and the narrative about Love changes completely

  2. Love is top 5 in every QB stat and has one pick (albeit a very untimely one) through 4 games, has a buncha nobodies at receiver and somehow hes still the problem. He had a bad game against a great defense in Cleveland, but otherwise has 3 VERY solid performances in 4 games and people are still like "wE wAnT wIlLis"

  3. The refs showed the Cowboys early that they weren't going to call holding or hands to the face appropriately. So they just kept doing it. You could point out multiple holds/hands to the face in the tv replays. Everyone is over looking how the 10 yard penalties can kill drives. So when they aren't called it can give the offenses more sustained drives/pts.

    Also the OLine is super banged up, hopefully bye can help with this.

  4. The only hope I have at this point is that Ed Policy is the new president and would not commit to extending Peppy LePew LeFleur's contract,we have been hearing the same lame excuses for the last 3 years, LeFleur is a broken record and a broken coach,time to move on.

  5. Tinker is the perfect word.

    Browns game showed that (for 52 minutes) we can play slow, methodical football and grind down teams.

    Lions showed us that we can hold down contenders and attack their weaknesses.

    Cowboys game showed us that we can drop 35+ points if our defense drops the ball (that’s important against AFC teams like bills and ravens).

    All of these games have shown that we ARE CAPABLE of exceeding in all areas of the game, we just need to tweak and calibrate, fix our field goal blocking, and wait till November.

  6. We've seen Mahomes Lamar Allen loae games and be criticized less then Love got in a time..Man showed he can be MVP…scored on nonstop drives and defense finally didnt show up..idk what more he's gotta do

  7. Chris needs to start naming other QBs when bringing up the really good ones. It’s not always JUST those same 4 guys. It’s ok to bring up Goff, Mayfield, Or even Herbert when talking about good QB play

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