The Panel Get in HEATED Debate Over Kyle Kuzma & Milwaukee Bucks

The Panel Get in HEATED Debate Over Kyle Kuzma & Milwaukee Bucks

Doc Rivers lying about these Kyle Koozma mid-range attempts in in Washington. He shot like two a game. He weren’t even shooting mid-ranges. And you’re lying about these Kyle Koozma isolations. He weren’t even isolating. Like I could watch Kmer in Washington. He weren’t isolating. He weren’t shooting mid-range jumpers. He got like two ISOs a game and like two mid-range jumpers a game. He wasn’t doing those things. He just saw it. Doc Rivers uh wants to talk about Kyle Koosma. He says in Washington he could literally take any shot in those five years. He took a ton of mid-range shots and that’s just not we want and so he got the message. What does that mean? Are we going to see a new Kyle Kosma under the toutelage of Doc Rivers? Don’t hold your breath. Okay, I won’t do that. Absolutely. This is for you guys to answer if you guys believe you’re going to see a new talk about Mars. Do you think Do you think Kyle Cruz was capable of being a good basketball player for the Milwaukee Bucks? Can you can you indulge me for a second? Mars, just just for a second, Mars. Can Can you indulge me for a second? I’m listening. [Music] Remember where we were in 2018, 2019, 2020. The role player, the not not the role player, the player that he was on that Laker team and he was playing within himself and that’s probably who he was, but he was getting better at that. Then he moves over to Washington, which is now Animal House, where we have no structure. We have no idea what we’re doing. We’re running clear outs for both Kyle Koosma and we’re running clear outs for Bub. We don’t have any structure in our offense. We got Jordan Pool chucking up shots. We have no idea what we’re doing. Then we get back to Milwaukee where it’s structured again like it was in Los Angeles. Now I got to get the cobwebs out that I had what was going on when I was in Washington. And by the way, Mos, that was four years of that. It’s not like I was in Washington for a season and we got to work the kinks out. No, this was four years of running ISOs. This was four years of me dribble pull-ups. This was four years of me being on defense and not being viable. So now we got to get rid of all of that stuff. And when we had half the season last year, we were trying to work out the kinks. This season, we actually have a whole season where we can put him in space where he’s the most productive. And where is Kyle Koosma the most productive? Kyle Kosma when he was with the This is just so unfair, man. It isn’t because we weren’t doing this with him when he was with the Lakers when they when he was starting on that championship team. I wasn’t on YouTube. You’re right. I wasn’t on YouTube at the time. I would I would have told you I don’t think Kman was that good back then. He also didn’t start on that team. I just want to put that out that he So, what are you expecting this year, Chill from from Kyle Kosma? Is it the efficiency? Is it the just straight up production or Well, I’m expecting two things, Damian. One, I’m expecting a more productive player because I think he’s going to play more within himself. I think we’re going to get back to what we had back then. I think it’s going to be more structure for him. I don’t think you’re going to see nearly as bad as shots. I don’t think that you’re going to see the defensive plays that he’s taken off because I think that he’s going to be held accountable a little bit more than what he not a little bit, let me rephrase that. He’s going to be held accountable more than what he was. I think he’s going to be on a I think he’s just going to be on a better team all the way around. And I think the stuff that he does that he’s good at, I think we’re gonna see more of that as opposed to when he was in Washington where we saw more of the bad stuff because they were so bad. And because they were so bad, we had to see him try to score more points. Because he was so bad, we had to see him shooting more threes because they were so bad. When he was with the Lakers, they had a great they they they had a great system where they hid a lot of his deficiencies. I think they’re going to do the same thing in Milwaukee with Giannis, with Miles Turner. I think that they’re going to do the same thing with them. Play a little bit faster, get quick hits with him, get him out in transition, get quick looks, stuff like that where I think that that makes him more productive as opposed to clearing out the whole left side of the floor and giving him the ball. No, we’re not doing that. I think it’s um I think he’s a tough one because the infrastructure helps. I think I think you’re definitely right about that. In Washington, it was a it was chaos. It was a mess. But Kyle Kzma is to me one of those guys where there’s a there’s a bunch of guys in the league where they’re talented but they’re not talented enough to be a big part of a team that contends. And I think Kyle Kosma it’s the efficiency stuff. It’s it’s it’s similar to me. Uh there’s a bunch of scorers who are inefficient like Dvonte Graham for example who’s a guy that you know he can get buckets but can he ever be a part of a team or a big part of a team where you have championship aspirations? And we know Giannis has championship aspirations. So, I can chill to your point, I think his role can be bigger this year. I think he can be better this year. Um, he has all the physical tools and and the experience now. He’s not a young guy anymore. Um, but I don’t know if he can be a big piece of a team that’s trying to win something. Chill, what is that thing that you said the guys are who they are by what year? By year five. This is probably the Kosma is 30. Chill. Yes, he is. Mhm. What are we doing? We’re waiting for five years in the playoffs. He came he came into the league what 22. He came into the league better than Jason Tate. I remember those conversations. I remember those. This is a player. That was a conversation. Chill. This is the same conversation we had about Marcus Smart. This is not a great shooter. Doesn’t really register it. Career averages would tell you year after year after year below league average. Not a great finisher. Not a great decision maker. Unlike Marcus Smart, however, he’s also not a great defender. So my question at this point really is what is Kyle Kosma doing starting on a team with playoff aspirations? C Pen Moss he he ended up moving to the rotation in the 2019 2020 season won the championship. Yeah the year the year they won it. I mean he ended up moving to the rotation. He was actually starting on that team with James and they were missing the playoffs. Yeah. Well not just see and I I don’t it’s not that simple. Moss see let’s let’s be clear about this. It’s it’s not that simple cuz let’s forget when before James got hurt there were two games out of the two spot in the Western Conference. He was starting on that 14 and 10. I just want everyone to know that. So two games out of the two spot sounds a lot better than barely above 500. Some players just manipulate story even during even during Christmas like when when he got when he got when when he got hurt when when James got hurt. He was still starting on that crew that looked like they were going 20 and 14 something like that. Well, they were going they looked like they were on their way to the playoffs with him starting. Oh god. That’s what they You’re right though. They chose Koozma. They were 20 and 14 and 10 and 14. Josh uh they chose and he was starting on that team. No, no, no. They did not choose him. The Pelicans chose Ingram over Koozma. Let’s just be clear about that. No, no, but that was the reports that the reports that came out were the Lakers don’t want to deal Koozma cuz Koozma can play next to LeBron off the ball and they’re like, “How what is this guy’s what is this guy’s ceiling as a second guy? He’s never become that.” But um those were that that was definitely a conversation 100%. Yeah, I get it. I get the idea of a role player. The idea that this guy was not I I I think the Washington thing has s it soured me. I’m not going to argue that point. It it it it did sour me, but I think we could get back to him being a solid player. And I’m not I’m not one of these people who thinks that this Milwaukee team is a championship level team, but I think we can get Kyle Kosma back to playing within himself as opposed to what he was doing in Washington. That’s why I think we can get him back. I I just You just think Kyle Kosma used to be good. That’s where the disconnect. I do. I think that was a good Are you ready to be sober? Are you ready to be sobered? Are you ready for me to pour a bucket of water on this Kyle Koozma hike train that you’re trying to start off here? I’m listening. In his last two playoff appearances, which by the way, to his credit, were many years apart with the Lakers and with the Milwaukee Bucks. Oh, this is bad. Bro shot 31.3% from the field and 18% from three and was bad defensively. You see where I’m going with this? You are a net negative on both ends. You not spacing the floor because we don’t respect you as a shooter. You not driving efficient offense because you smoking open layups. And on the other end, you’re not a good defender. My question at this point is whose pictures does this guy have at this point? Like what what information? He shouldn’t even be in So he shouldn’t even be in a rotation. Is that what I’m understanding? Rotation of any can be in the rotation on the Wizards. Yes, exactly. He was in the perfect That dude was wild as hell with his I think he had to be in the rotation. I don’t I don’t know. I I don’t know. Maybe I’m missing something. If someone sucks on offense and sucks on defense and is 30 years old, where’s the rule of optimism? Like at least when Tan Salon, no disrespect went to Tan Salon, at least when he sucks on offense and defense. He was 18 and a rookie. Optimism. I don’t know. When you’re 30, you suck on offense and suck on defense. And now we’re saying, “Hey, play next to the top three player on the planet and help him contend.” And I’m just meant to be optimistic about that. The optim the optimism comes from him doing it in the past, playing next to two great players. But I don’t think he did it in the past. That’s why we disagree. I don’t think he was good on the Lakers team that won the championship. Yeah, that that that’s that’s I don’t think he was a good player. I think they won. So, no one cares that some guys on that team weren’t particularly good even though they were in the rotation. I’m not going to be like Mark Morris. He was a good player in 2012. I don’t think Marie Morris was that good, but he was on the team. I don’t think Kyle Koosma was that good on that team. I think there’s a reason why his minutes went down. And the reason why he got put on the bench is because he wasn’t that good of a player. I think offensively he wasn’t a good player back then. He just only played like 20 minutes. So you didn’t notice how damaging he was back then. Also, Doc Rivers lying about these Kyle Koozer mid-range attempts in in Washington. He shot like two a game. He weren’t even shooting mid-ranges. Are you lying about these Kyle Koozma isolations? He weren’t even isolating. Like Kyle Kzma in Washington, he weren’t isolating. He weren’t shooting mid-range jumpers. He got like two ISOs a game and like two mid-range jumpers a game. He wasn’t doing those things. He just saw it. That’s what happened. He was just bad. It wasn’t because he was being used incorrectly. It wasn’t because they were clearing outside of the floor for him and telling him to go get buckets consistently. No, once a half they gave Kyle Kzoos an isolation. And in fact, they weren’t even giving him isolations. It was late clock go create something. They weren’t giving him isolations. They weren’t drawing up ISOs for Kyle Koosma. They weren’t drawing up mid-range shots for Kyle Koosma. That Kyle Kosma, I can give you the numbers. In Washington, he shot 1.8 mid-range jumpers a game. So, I do know what Dog Rivers is talking about, but someone chasing two mid-range jumpers a game is not about to stop him from shooting low 40s% from the field. It’s not going to stop him from shooting 28% from three or whatever he just shot in Washington. It’s not going to stop him from being unable to score next to Janice in the playoffs just because he shot two mid-range jumpers in Washington. That’s not the problem. The problem is he doesn’t understand what he’s doing. He thinks he’s a better scorer than he is. He can’t play defense. He won’t pass the ball. He can’t dribble the ball. And he can’t shoot. That’s the problem. You know what he’s really good at? Running the floor in transition. The only problem is he plays next to the best player in the league at doing that. So, the one thing he’s good at is going to be minimized because the only guy in on his team who’s better than him is the best in the world at doing it. So, the only thing he can do won’t even be maximized because someone else is going to be running to the rim in transition instead of him. The guy who’s the best. Two people can run the floor. Two people can run the floor. Well, not not only that. Keep going. Keep going to the rim. We know he ain’t going to run to the three-point line. So, Koozma has two options. either he can trail in transition or he can fill the lane in the corner. He’s not going to run to the rim alongside Jiannis. You can do that, but in the modern NBA, we know, we know the modern NBA with one guys running to the rim, other guys are filling the corner or you’re trailing. So, the one thing Kyle Koozma can do at a good level, I will give him credit. He is a good transition scorer. The one thing he can do at an NBA level, he’s on the only team in the NBA that doesn’t require him to do that. So, you’re going to ask him to spot up. He can’t shoot. He’s not going to get guarded. You’re going to ask him to what? Play defense. He can’t play defense. And even if it was just an effort issue, he’s the most unaware defender I’ve seen in the in the league, mate. So, oh my god. I don’t know what he Oh, one other thing he can do. He can rebound. My goodness. That’s very important. Morris, there we go. He can rebound. Rebound. I give him credit for his ability to rebound. But I don’t understand how I can watch someone be this bad for as long as he’s been this bad and say 5 years ago he didn’t suck. So maybe he cannot suck again. That doesn’t make sense to me. That doesn’t register. Unhook your mic. I think he wasn’t good then too. No, we’re not going to do that. It’s the same guy. No, we’re not going to do that pin because this is the same guy. Go ahead. He came up here and told me about Kyle Kosma isolations in Washington. Now all of a sudden he’s not getting not anyone can find the footage when I remember your conversation when Kyle Krishna went to the Wizards. You said this exact same thing about a Krzman. If we looked it up, looked it up on the stream and saw it was like 1.5 ISOs a game. I looked up on that stream and I was 22 a game coming from Mars. Where was the 21 a game? It might have been empty. I’m not going to argue that point. It might come off isolations. When Kyle Cruzma was coming from I’ll tell you when Kyle Kzma averaged 22. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. When Kyle Cruzma averaged 22 a game in the 20 23 24 season. These were his most common play types. Spot up shooting five possessions a game. Transition five possessions a game. Pick and roll ball handling four possessions a game. Isolation 2.4. The most he had by the way. 2.4. Then handoffs 1.3 a post up one time a game. He would set a screen and roll one time a game. He would come off screens off the ball one time a game. It wasn’t no isolation. It was two isolations a game. That was the problem. And you know what? He served 32% from the field in isolation. But that was the most he ever did in Washington. The year that he just had where it was the worst year of his career by a substantial margin. They cut his isolations in half from the year in which he averaged 22 2.4. He only had 1.1 this past year and it was the worst year of his career by a substantial margin. So they cut the the shot type that you didn’t like. They cut it in half and he got worse. It was four and a half transition possessions a game, 3.6 spot ups, three and a half pick and roll ball handling possessions, one isolation a game. This is what happened. He was good in transition. 1.14 points per possession. Poor as a spot up shooter. 0.664 points per possession. That is in the sixth percentile in the NBA. As a pick and roll ball handler, 0.697 points per possession. That’s in the 19th percentile in the NBA. As an isolationist, 0.686 points per possession. That is in the 16th percentile in the NBA. As a cutter, he’s in the 47th percentile. Coming off handoffs, he’s in the 25th percentile. As a posttop scorer, one possession a game in Washington, 32nd percentile. Coming off screens, 22nd percentile. Oh, the one thing I say he does well rebounding. On offensive rebounds, he’s in the second percentile in scoring efficiencies. But he gets a rebound and just goes up and misses. Good work, Kyle Krma. We really appreciate that. Nothing really changed in Milwaukee. He was just in a smaller role, but the most common play type spotter and transition. Guess what? He sucked to both of them again. So 25th percentile spot shooter in Milwaukee. So he still did the same thing he did in Washington, just sucked to air again. In transition, he got less efficient. Guess what? But when you play next to the best transition score in the league, the one skill set you’re actually good at now goes from good to average because you’re not being maximized. Pick and roll ball handler, less possessions. His actual efficiency went up. So I could argue he’s being used better. 0.9 points per possession as a pick and roll ball handler. His isolations went from 1.1 in Washington to 0.8. They barely changed. His play types haven’t changed. He’s still doing things in he was doing them in Washington. And he still sucks in Milwaukee with everything that you just with everything that you just said with him coming off screens which end shout to Synergy for the numbers by the way by by the way. So when when with when with when with when with when with when with when with when with when with when with when with him with him coming off screens like you just said which ends up in isolation I don’t think did they did they factor those two things in coming off screens dribble handoffs. Did they did they factor that into isolation also because what I’m thinking about when I think about stuff like that dribble handoffs we’re go we’re getting downhill. If this guy is averaging 22 a game if this guy’s averaging 18 a game which by the way it’s empty. We’ve already we’ve already established that when he was in Washington that that stuff was empty. It was it was not leading to anything. But he still was getting buckets. So with him still getting buckets when he gets to Milwaukee and he’s playing with Giannis as a transition player. No, I don’t have to dive to the rim. But I’m going to run with Giannis. And Giannis knows that if I’m running with him, he’s not going to keep the ball the entire time. And Giannis is not going to get to the rim the entire time. He is going to give me the ball sometimes. And with him giving me the ball, I am going to score at the rim, which is going to open up the offense for Giannis in transition. Even better, same logic when we play in Milwaukee. To your point, he sucked at it because I just got there. And when I just when I just got when I just got here, I got here and I’m trying to get all the cobwebs out that were in Washington because it’s a different system and I’m playing with better players. And when I’m when I’m playing with better players, I’m confident that he’s gotten better looks. And because he’s gotten better looks as opposed to when he was in Washington when he had two and three guy, not two and three guys hanging on him. I’m not going to say that because he wasn’t getting triple team. That’s not true. But he was taking bad shots. I don’t have to do that in Milwaukee. And on top of that, to your point about what the optimism is. I saw it when he was in Los Angeles. I saw how good he could be when he was in Los Angeles. The problem is that we see what was going on in Washington. All the data that you showed me, all the data that you told me, the stuff that we seen in Washington, that’s what we’re stuck on. I’m not stuck on that. I’m stuck on what? I’m stuck on the optimistic part of him being in Los Angeles, playing off of James, being really good in transition, being a good spot up shooter, being able to knock down an open shot, which he was doing when he was in Los Angeles, the year that they missed the playoffs because James got hurt, and the year that they went to the NBA championship when he was one of the best rotation players in the game. I’m trying to get back to that. And with me trying to get back to that, he’s still a young player at 30 years old. I think he’s still in his prime. I don’t think that Kyle Kosma is over. What I’m asking is what what what I’m what I’m asking is with Kyle Kosma, I’m asking Kyle Kosma to just get back to being a productive guy. There’s no way that this guy’s been in the league this long. He just sucked. It’s not productive at all. That’s not that that’s not the case. Um after after you can give me one more day. Is that what you’re saying? After you make this point, Pen, we got to move on to the uh to the Yeah. Sorry. Like chill. So what I’m saying is you asking Kosma for one more day. Can he get one more day? Is is that what we’re doing here? That we doing that rehash of that thing? I I I I what I’m asking for is can I get a full season of Kyle Kosma and Mars? I’ll tell you what. Here’s the thing. Like seven is in your head. If if I could get a full season of Kyle Kosma and we still here, I’m out. If I could get a full season of Kyle Kosma, Mars, you know what? You were right. This guy can’t play. This guy is not very good. I will I will definitely eat it. But I think that I’m going to get a more productive Kyle Kosma this season. Okay. I don’t think you can get a less productive one. So, I’m inclined to agree. I just don’t think that would still be a good player. Yeah. Chill. He’s not He’s not approaching an apex. He’s not approaching a renaissance. He’s not approaching a revitalization, rejuvenation. There ain’t nothing that’s going to happen in this dude’s career that’s going to fix the problems that Mars laid out. But I will say this, and I know everyone’s going to roll their eyes because I’m going to say box plus minus there. You roll your eyes. Just roll your eyes. He has never Let’s hear it first. Let’s hear it first. He’s never posted a positive box minus in his life. Never. Not one season. Not not in his rookie season. In the first few years, it was at least trending in a way where it was like maybe one day he’ll approach positive. Last year, it was negative 5.2 with the Wizards, -4.7 with the Bucks. He ain’t getting better. I think you have to approach this with the idea that maybe his biggest skill, which was his athleticism, is on the decline now. And now you’re really about to find out the question that everyone’s been dreading to find out, which is can Kyle Kosma actually play basketball? And the answer is a resounding no. Was second to last in box plus minus last year in the NBA. That’s all time. Well, we we I think I think we get the point on CS. I mean, y’all know I’m I’m kind of leaning more with Chill on this one. I’ve been pretty optimist optimistic about Kyle Koosma, but the way that y’all two just cooked right there and bodied his whole basketball career, I’m not so sure anymore and I’m gonna have to pay close attention to Kyle Kzman and the Milwaukee Bucks this year. Um Damian, did you have anything to close this out that you wanted to say about CS and what and what Doc said or could we just go straight to the super chats? Oh no, we got to move on now. Okay. No, no need to kick a man while he’s down there. Right. Chill Chill was smiling like eight minutes ago. Now to be fair, I was more so targeting Doc Rivers and his lies about mid-range shots from Koozma as opposed to Kusma. To be fair, actually, I I’ll take that back. To be fair, I think both both the points can be true. I think that I think Chill, your point in Koosma having a better year this coming season, I think that’s plausible. I think he can do that cuz he’s going to have a bigger role. But to Mars and Penn’s point, Kyle Kosma being your second best player, you’re not going anywhere. So, I think both those things can exist. I don’t think anybody up here thinks that this team is a championship level team, including myself. I do think that they’re going to be better than what people think. I think they’re a bonafide playoff team. I and and I still stand on that. I don’t think that they’re making a deep run in the playoffs. Just so we’re clear, he’s not their second best player. I don’t think he’s their third best player. I’m not sure he’s their fourth best player. So just put that in. I also think is gonna have a better year than he had last year. But as Pen laid out, no, he’s not going to be worse is for him to literally be the worst player in the NBA. I mean, last year saying I think he’s going to be better is just I just don’t mean last year he had Dame and he had Jordan P. Now he has now he has Kevin Porter Jr. So, we’re going in the wrong direction when it comes which I love the I love the fact that and Miles Tenn actually gonna talk about about Kevin Porter Jr. too. Yeah. Well, we you know what we can still chat can wait five minutes. Let’s talk about that. Uh is is Kevin Porter Jr. the right choice right there? I mean, seems like he’s the only choice. Yeah. I I don’t think he’s going to be that primary ball hand. I still think that’s going to be Hannis, but Kevin Porter Junior is that starting point guard. It was going to be him more Ryan Rollins, I guess. Um, and if KPJ can showcase some of the defense that I think he showed in Milwaukee, his ability to guard in isolation, that that led cause for optimism offensively, don’t think he’s very good. But if he’s able to play defense and he’s able to play within himself and be a secondary ball handler, someone who can create for himself off the dribble, who can get to the rim, those are causes for optimism. Now, the shot selection and some of the catch and shoot stuff that has been up and down, there’s a cause for concern, but he’s on a minimum contract. There’s only so much you can expect. So, um I think Kevin P Jun is probably the best option. Um and I think it but they have Cole Anthony, you know. Yes. Yeah. Kevin P Jun still probably their best option. Um but I do think there’s obviously concerns, but for a minimum contract, I think he’ll he’ll play above the means of the contract, I think. So, to get to get named as a to get named as the starter two days in training camp, that tells me that Doc Rivers already had his mind made up about this guy. I don’t think that he wowed him in two days. I mean, a lot of times, you know, when guys come into camp, you do get a legit shot. But to name him as your starting league guard, two days into training camp, that tells me a lot about him. And I said this already to you, Mars, that, you know, despite the nonsense that he has going on off the court, which is absolutely that. It’s it’s just completely ridiculous. But he finds himself on every team that he’s been on, he finds himself either starting or playing or playing significant minutes, which tells me that this kid can play. And I I think I think Yan and I I think Giannis needs I think he needs competent players at this point, right? I I think he needs competent players and I think KCJ is a competent league guard. I don’t think he’s going to kill you, but I also don’t think that he’s going to push you over the top to be an NBA champion either. I don’t think I don’t think he’s that good. No, I think if we take what Giannis said at the end of the year at face value and believe him when he says he wants to be more like Paulo Scotty, like a point guard type of big point guard. Y then he is probably going out there expecting to handle the ball a lot more than he has in the past. Losing Dame, having a spacing big like Miles Turner is a good thing. Having Koozma might not be a great thing. So, I wonder if they can swap Koosma plus something to get an upgrade there. Now, I think the Bucks might be a playoff team. If if it’s it’s ambitious back if Okay, I can make one swap right now. I don’t know if the Heat would ever agree to this. Koozma for Norman Powell. I put them in the playoffs right away. Right away. They’re a playoff team this season with that crew that they have. They’re a playoff. I think I think they’re going to make the playoffs. They’re going to make the playoffs cuz Yiannis, I don’t know how you don’t see them as a playoff team. That one, they got the best player in the conference. We’ll start there. Do we need to re rewind? Arguably re rewind 10 minutes. That’s why I don’t see them as a playoff team because Kyle Kosman is expected to carry 20 thou 25 to 30. He’s not. No, he’s not expected to carry. I think that that the way that this we all know, okay, even even if he’s on the floor, right, let’s let’s even with him being on the floor, Doc Rivers has already made clear what he’s looking for from Kyle Kosma. Okay, so the bad shot taken, the bad shot selection, him being non-productive on the glass, he has to be. Who cares what Doc Rivers wants? He can’t do I’m the coach. What do you mean who cares, Pen? I’m the I’m the minute man. It’s me who decides who’s on the floor. Okay, that mean I’m your track coach. I want you I want you to run a mile in four four minutes and 50 seconds. Can you do it? Okay, cool. So, it doesn’t really matter what I want from you. I want I want uh I want I’m not on the Olympic team and you ain’t the coach of the Olympic team determining whether or not I make the team. No, pen. Doc Rivers is the minute man. Doc Rivers is the guy who goes in. Okay, you out. You win. So, he wants Kyle Kosma to play a certain way. And if you can’t play this way, then you got to sit down. That’s the way that that works. That’s why he’s saying, “I’m looking for less of this and more of that. I’m looking for more of this and a little bit more of that.” That’s what he’s looking for. As opposed to nobody cares what Doc Rivers thinks. Players are who they are. I think you cook with that when you said by the fifth year players kind of are who they are. I tend to agree that yeah, we’ve kind of seen the trajectory you’re going in. The trajectory Kosma went in is inefficient. We don’t need to relitigate this. What I’m saying is if the trajectory Giannis is going in is Helio Hub, single driver of offense, point forward, average, eight assists, we already saw the mid-range evolution last year. Maybe this year we see a bit of a ball handling and passing re evolution. In that case, you need spacing and shooters. Moved in the right direction with Miles Turner. Now move in the right direction with the Koozma trade. That’s all I’m saying. Well, let’s let’s not let’s not get back too far to Koozma. Um I think we talked about KPJ. Uh, Chill, I think you’re the highest on highest on KPJ amongst the five of us here. Um, but we’ll we’ll definitely be on the lookout for that. Chill, before we get to the super chats, I do have a question. If you had to I don’t know, for some reason, hypothetically, if you had to run a mile, what do you think your mile time would be? I could still run a mile in under 10 minutes, I could still do that today at 52 years old. Okay. Yeah. I I fig I fig I figured it was a pretty good mile time. You know what I’m saying? You great. Hey, Damian, you you in pretty good shape. still get around you pretty pretty uh I mean the the the chat won’t know but before I was covering the NBA I played football professionally the um the real football the Mars Mars knows the real football soccer yeah I played I played professionally for about a for about a decade Oh that’s fire that’s fine okay so but but you you still you still in pretty good shape though still I still get around yeah I can still get around yeah okay okay cuz I chill what I the reason I asked Damon Yeah, cuz I was going to say chill, you might probably got the fastest mile time up here. But I no I have to to Mars’ point. I have three things that I live by today, Pen. One, if I had to run, could I run? If I had to get if I had to get somebody off me, could I get them off me? And number three, could I still get it on for a half an hour straight? Yes, I can still do it. Go. That that those are my three things. That’s fire. That’s fire. That’s that’s that’s the three most important things. That’s it right there. [Music]

The Panel get in a heated argument over Kyle Kuzma’s viability and how he will contribute on the Milwaukee Bucks this season.

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