Small sample size but consistent with previous years. Being able to go for it on obvious 4th downs isn’t being aggressive, it’s just giving your team more chances to win the game.

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  3. I appreciate ya posting this less than 12 hours after a team failed on 4th and 1 and lost because of it

  6. Our go rate is 0? What about that 4th and goal at the 3 we went for last week? That didn’t seem like living in our fears.

  9. Players wont develop if you don’t push them and let them learn from those situations. Failing on 4th and short teaches how to succeed on 4th and short. They can be .500 and have some balls. Get some swagger back.

  10. ITT: people obstinately missing the point.

    (Yes I know I could say that about any thread on the internet)

  11. This graph is a mess. It seems to include win probability, as a means of deciding when they should go for it, so it isn’t just going for it on 4th down, it’s about going for it at a specific time in the game that the chart maker has decided, of which some teams haven’t had enough opportunities to be on the chart. Just sloppy.

  15. I wonder how much of that is because we trust our defense to get the ball back and our game is predicated on putting the defense in a favorable position.

  16. Is there a reason why 6 teams are not included? I’m curious to see Campbell’s Lion’s and their rate.

  18. Unless its a no choice deal on 4th down Steelers always either normally Kick a Field Goal or Punt. Us going for it is normally last chance thing. Alot of teams use four downs because there defense are bad and cant hold A team if why a lot of teams do trick 4th downs

  20. To be fair the teams higher on this chart have to go for it because they are usually losing

  23. We should’ve went for it on 4th and goal to put the game away guaranteed. 

    We also should’ve went for it on 4th&1 at the 40, or attempted a field goal at least.

  24. Always way too conservative on offense. Instead of watching the top NFL offenses in recent years, Tomlin must be paying more attention to mediocre high school football. WPIAL teams have more innovative offensive game plans.

  26. Tomlin lives in his own fears and in the fears of every other team – he’s a chicken 🐓

  30. As a data analyst this graph is bullshit. Who the fuck decides what constitutes a “should?”

  31. It was a lot easier to be fearless with Big Ben at the helm than it is with 41 year old Rodgers. What I would like to see is Rodgers checking out of an obvious run play to play action to either Washington, Pat or Metcalf

  33. Tomlin needs the Costanza approach where whatever his instincts tell him on 4th down, do the opposite

  34. Ok, but the Steelers are 3-1 and the Jets, Raiders and Panthers are a combined 2-10. So maybe aggressiveness on fourth down isn’t all that great.

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