Frank Nazar SCORES as Chicago Blackhawks fall short to the Wild | CHGO Blackhawks Postgame Podcast

Frank Nazar SCORES as Chicago Blackhawks fall short to the Wild | CHGO Blackhawks Postgame Podcast

The Hawks lose 3-2 to the Wild in a wild game at the United Center. Thank you, Sean. Greg Boyison’s over there. Mario to your boss. He’s a few blocks that way. Join us for the postgame show starting now. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Music] Welcome to the CHGO Blackhawks postgame show presented by Bet 365. Whatever the moment, it’s never ordinary at bet365. Download the bet365 app and use the code cho365 when you sign up. I’m Jay Zawoski. He’s Greg Boyison. Sean Anderson’s running the show. Mario Terbosi is at the United Center, which I’ve been told is that way, not that way, but whatever. It’s fine. Uh, good game. 3-2 uh loss to the Wild. A little frustrating because the Hawks got off to a two nothing lead in the first. The Wild scored three power play goals in the second period. And then despite outshooting the Wild 16-3 in the third period, they were not able to get the P puck past Philip Gustoson uh to tie the game. Hawks got goals from Nazar and Felino. Lots of good stuff. Greg, your thoughts? If it wasn’t for Philip Gusto, Gustoson’s uh insanely large knob, the Blackhawks might have won tonight. Taylor Swift’s going to write up a song about him, too. apparently Ghostshin. That’s all I think of when I hear that name is Grumpy Old Men. If you’re under 40, go ahead and Google that movie and check it out. It’s good. Good stuff. Both of them are great. Yes. Uh and and watch through the end credits to see the Burgess Meredith optics. Wait, both of the Grumpy Old Men are great. Or there’s two Grumpy Old Men. There are two Grumpy Old Men movies. I actually believe two is better than one. It is cuz it’s got Sophia in it. That is correct. All right. But that’s not why you’re here. You’re here to talk about the Hawks game. Yeah. I’d rather talk about grumpy over the next hour. No, I mean, look, there was a lot other podcast. Here’s what I there’s a lot I liked about this game and we’ll reveal our game pucks coming up and you get your votes in uh for the end of the show. Uh we’ll do that at the end of this segment if Sean reminds me. Um the Hawks are treating preseason games like they count. They’re playing with intensity. They’re playing with speed. They’re finishing checks. They’re sticking up for each other. this as we’ve been talking about all off seasonason and and trying to think about like how are we going to approach this year because all the pundits are predicting them to finish last or bottom three or bottom five wherever you’re you know whichever source you want to go to but we’ve talked about how the games look and I’ll say tonight’s game despite the loss looked the way I wanted it to look Nazar looked great Kaiser looked great looked great Levino had some really great flashes. Sam Renzel having him out there for the last five minutes of the game with they had what the empty net with like two plus minutes left. Sam Renzel kept the puck in his zone three or four times where if it’s anybody else that puck’s out of the zone. He also chased down Carell Capriov an empty net, stole the puck away from him and kept the Hawks in the game. This is the sort of stuff when these, you know, these analysts dig into the metrics and are like trying to say, “Okay, where’s this how is this team going to end up?” It doesn’t show that. It doesn’t measure compete and it doesn’t measure the impact these young players are going to have positively for this team. Yeah. I mean, the the the reason they lost tonight was because the penalty kill, you know, uh crap the bed tonight. Um, you know, but the Wild have an impressive It’s a good team power play. Yes, they do. Um, you know, uh, when they’re healthy, they’re going to have some weapons out there. Um, so, you know, not a lot of ton not a ton of special teams work put in, you know, with a new coaching staff, lots of things going on. So, that will get better, you know, but it has to get better. I’m more concerned about the power play going 0 for9 in the last two games. Yeah. Uh this is a team that is going to struggle at five on five. Um yeah, they played great in the third period at five on five, but the first period they got totally outplayed and then the second period there was no five on five, right? It was all right five on four, four on four. Um but last year the Blackhawks were 29th in the league out of 32 teams in drawing penalties. That’s going to be much better this season just because of the speed factor. Yeah, they are a much faster team this year than they were from much of last year. Taylor Hall wasn’t getting a lot of stick penalties because his feet were moving and he was, you know, people had to grab them like Landon Slagert did tonight against Zeve Boom. Yep. Drew penalties because he kept his feet moving. Uh, you know, Pat Maroon wasn’t drawing stick penalties. Craig Smith wasn’t getting those types of penalties. But now with Nazar and Slagger and MV and all these fast players who are just north south the whole way, they’re going to draw a lot more penalties this year. Yes. So the power play needs to start scoring because they’re going to struggle at five on five to score this year. So that’s I’m more concerned about the power play not cashing in. Not that the power play was bad. It wasn’t bad against Detroit even though it was 0 for six. It wasn’t 0 for six with four shots on goal, but you don’t want to see the team getting goalied by Cam Talbot and Philip Gustoson. Gustin’s a good goalie. Cam Talbot is a dude. Like at some point it’s not getting goalied anymore. Put the puck in the back of the thing with special teams, power plays especially, it’s all about confidence and momentum. Yeah. So if they can get tomorrow night, get a goal or two on the power play against St. Louis, get some momentum and confidence in. It’s all about a feel. When the power play goes bad on any team in the NHL, it’s hard to get it back. But when the power play is clicking, you feel invincible. And every penalty, you feel like you’re going to get a goal. So, it’s all about momentum. It’s trending in the wrong direction for that power play. Even though they’ve played fine, it’s looked okay. They’ve had plenty of chances, but you don’t win on chances, you win on conversions. Um, so hopefully that picks up. Yeah, definitely. And I will say like the Felino goal, which was not a power play goal, had the look of a power play goal. You had him and Lafery and two wild players within 6 ines of Phil Gusen causing havoc in front. You get a point shot through. Feno gets a stick on it. That’s how this team is going to. If it’s not Bard and it’s not Nazar, and I guess you’d probably throw Tabo and and Donado into that category, too. you’re going to score some ugly goals. Well, that’s a fourthline goal. Yeah, that was a fourthline Nick Finino goal. You get to the front of the net and you just, you know, take that goalie’s eyes away. Hopefully something hits you and that that’s exactly what happened. Um, and I mean that’s how the Wild scored, you know, a couple of goals unfortunately off of Blackhawk defenders. Yeah. Why Kaiser go Ryan Hartman’s going to shoot it inches wide and it just goes right off a stick. Right. And even the the first one, was it the first one that went off a Grizzlick on the way in? No, the first one was a Terasenko goal, which was just a snipe. The vintage Vlatty. Yeah. Yeah. And then Erikson X scored the uh he tipped the Matt Baldy shot. Very similar to the Feno goal, right? And it hit uh Grizzlick before uh it went in. But um yeah, you’re going to have to score some greasy, grimy goals. Um, and listen, that third line tonight was the best line at at five on five all night. They were the only line in the first and second period that really had offensive zone pressure. And that’s your defensive line. Um, but Landon Slagger looked really good tonight. Uh, McKay had a really good game, very noticeable. When Jason Dickinson is the slowest guy on your line, that’s a pretty good line. Yeah, I mean your highest rated players in this game were Felino with a 75% Corsy4, Colton Doc with a 71 uh McKay of Dickens and Slagger are 64 62 58 respectively. They were they were all very good. Your bottom six was solid. And if that if that’s going to be the case most nights, you’re going to have a lot of games like this where you’re in it. But it’s it doesn’t feel like the Luke Richardson we’re in it where we’re just trying to prevent scoring chances at all costs and icing the puck and just grinding the game to a halt. The Hawks had their opportunities in this game. They had their opportunity to put the puck in the back of the net and they generated a lot of scoring chances and shots on goal. Like I have no problem with this game. I have no problem with the Detroit game. eventually some of this puck luck is going to start going their way because the chances are they’re generating are good and and what you’re saying is you know the the need that they’re going to have to score these greasy goals that is willingness and what we have seen so far through five preseason games is a team that is willing to play that kind of hockey has there have there been moments that were exceptions yes there was one of those patented Jeff Flashel uh poking hopes from Conor Bernard that he’s going to hear about cuz you that was in the second period where he just kind of like stuck a stick out and missed and the Wild were off the other way. Those are things young those are mistakes young players are going to have to make. But for the most part, all 12 forwards, all six defensemen in all five games have been competing their asses off in the preseason. And to me, that’s a really good sign. Well, tonight it was encouraging because when you’re playing against a team like the Wild, they’re going to put everything to shut down that top line. You know, they’ve got Joel Erikson Ek one of the best defensive forwards in the league. One of, you know, for years we keep hearing heard about how underrated Sasha Barkov is. Well, Joel Erikson is really that underrated. Yeah. um you know with Faber out there and you know they they put those guys against Baddard, they’re going to shut them down and they did for two periods. Um so that’s when you need to have that bottom six, right? Have a game where they contribute offensively because the Wild are a good defensive team, but they’re going to put all their big guns out there to stop the top line. Uh, and so that’s when that third line can step up like they did tonight and the fourth line can get a one of those, you know, ugly goals. It’s going to go a long way if you can get that on most nights. Uh, I want to point out a couple things, too. Uh, Conor Bard ended this game with nine shot attempts. This has been the trend this preseason. It’s 19 shot attempts in the last two games. That’s good. That’s what you want to see from him. How many nights did we sit here the last two seasons going Connor we love you but shoot the damn more like where he would have a game where he’d have three or four shot attempts the whole night he is he is feeling confident he is you could see the jump in his step the speed is evident actually have something coming uh next week for lchto.com I talked to Ryan Donado who spent the most time with Connor Baddard last year and has been with him non-stop this year and I asked him about the differences he’s seen from Connor Baddard and Ryan Donado Spoiler alert says, “Hell yes, I see it.” It’s You could see the jump in him just with a naked eye. I’m not going to get a membership now. I don’t I just got the ending. Well, I’ll I’ll send it to you. Okay, I’ll copy and paste. I don’t I don’t have My password doesn’t work anymore. I can’t read those articles. They has locked you out. Can’t read those articles since last year. Um, yeah, Bard shooting is great. It’s what we want to see. We want him to get in FU mode. Um, and I know you’re already seeing a lot of the people about Breakovsky and Donado on that line. Oh, he needs better players. I know on paper that trio doesn’t look good, but Connor Bernard is now on a line with two savvy veterans who can skate, get the puck through the neutral zone, who know and has what their job is and has have accepted it. Their job, get 98 the puck. Yes, that is all those two guys are out there to do. So now Conor Bard is like, “All right, I’m in shoot puck mode.” The one-time, he’s been teeing that up all preseason. They’ve got him in the Ovuchkin Paneran formation. So I know you see Burovski, Donado, they got to do better than that. It’s working. I know none of these games count. Let’s see it work in Florida. But these two guys know what they have to do. Get the puck to 98. 98. Shoot the puck. They’re going to start going in the net. And real quick, Sean, before you chime in, Baddard is a And we, this was the same thing about Patrick Kane. And I had Hawks in the Dynasty era tell me Patrick Kane was difficult to play with because he was such an improviser and you had to be ready at all times and you had to have your stick on the ice cuz he was going to find you and he was also going to rove and go find places to go find those empty spots of ice. But Dard plays in a very similar way. It’s going to take Andre Burkovski some time to learn the tendencies of Conor Baddard and where he’s going to be and when he looks to pass, when he looks to shoot it. He is not like lining up with a guy like Sam Laughaferty or Nick Felino, they play a very predictable style of hockey. Even Terravine and Immbertusi are pretty much north and south kind of skaters. Easy to read, easy to predict. Conor Badard is a unicorn in that way where he is kind of just given the green light to go where he needs to go, find space to get that shot off, and it’s something that Burkovski is going to have to learn over time. There have been flashes of Burikovsky’s skill that if you’re watching closely, it’s evident he’s got speed. He’s got good hands. He can go I’ve noticed that he goes from like, you know, stationary to fast very quickly. So, if he can stay healthy, it would not shock me if he’s like the second or third leading scorer on this team. He’s got a lot of skill. It’s going to take a little bit of time for Burkovski to catch up with Baddard’s game and learn the tendencies that he has. Uh, and that’s why I’m kind of like, why are they on a power play together? Maybe that would help in that regard, but I’m nitpicking at this point. All right, we got to hit the break zone. I have not appealed for likes yet, but many of you have done it already, but we want more. 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Four Seasons Heating, Air Conditioning, Plumbing, and Electric has been serving Chicagoland for over 50 years. Visit Four Seasons Heatingcooling.com for all their special offers and money-saving coupons. That’s four seasons heatingcooling.com. All right, we are back on CHDL Blackhawks. Want to get to a super chat before we give you our game puck nominees. Connor Del Rio says, “Bad needs to play the entire game like the third.” That would be great. Sure. He was outstanding in the third period, but it was kind of hard for him to play like that in the second period because the Blackhawks were on the penalty kill for eight minutes. Yeah. And he doesn’t play penalty kill, right? You know who else didn’t play penalty kill tonight? Like what I did there? Segue. That was a good segue. Sam Laughaferty. So, um, why why like Sam Laughaferty is a is is a good penalty killer. That was part of the reason you brought him in and you didn’t play him on the PK. So why look, it’s preseason. Maybe they want to give other people a look on the PK. If he’s not I mean he’s not your best six peak penalty killers. Why is he here? Well, and the only other guy you’d want to give a look to on the PK that you don’t typically would be Colton Doc and he didn’t get any PK time. But but Nick Felino got a lot of PK time and that’s something that you probably don’t need to do throughout the season. Yeah, we need to figure out the because I think Nick Fino’s looked really good in the preseason. I really do. He came into camp ready to go. He does not look 38, but it’s game five of the preseason. By game 20, by game 30, if he’s doing power play, ple kill, five on five, let’s trim that down a bit. And if you’re gonna have Sam Laferty on this roster, it’s got to be to spell Felino a bit. And not that I’m Look, Nick Felino is he is in prime shape despite his age. Um, but it’s just it’s going to take his toll over time if he’s doing everything. If he’s here temporarily, Laferty, which it feels like it could be until they they think Oliver Moore is 100% ready or Ryan Green’s 100% ready. really feels he’s a play he’s definitely a place he’s a placeholder fine and I like Sam Laughafery Sam Laferty had a pretty good game tonight that first period he was aggressive on the forch check uh he was hunting pucks doing Sam Lafery things but him you know the last time he was here he was one of their best PKers couple short short-handed goals uh was very effective in that role and if he’s not going to play that role Why? Why is he here? Like, so I I would imagine he’s going to get plenty of PK time at some point. I would think so. Nick Felino can’t do be your second top penalty killer all season long. I agree. Speaking of Nick Fino, we’re going to hear from him in a second, but first, our game puck nominees. I’m nominating Landon Slagert. Uh, I know for there were some shows last week where we were trying to decide roster moves and I kind of said, why does Landon Slacker just get handed a job here? He hasn’t been available. Young guys have filled in for him and played well. Landon Slacker shutting me the hell up tonight and came out and was really good. Uh, you mentioned him drawing a penalty with his speed and his willingness to take a hit to make a play. Uh, and it wasn’t just defensively that that line looked good. They were creating some offense, too. I love Slagert’s game for sure. And you know, uh, if he had a mean bone in a bo in his body, he might have flipped you off from the I think I saw him do this to you. Uh, like, hey, and then he went to church to say, yes, the dependence for and he apologized immediately, but he still did it in your face, Mr. Zawasi. Uh my uh game puck is going to a guy that really that didn’t doesn’t show much on the score sheet, but he was uh a warrior out there tonight, and that was Conor Murphy. Um he was pissing people off. He was scratching people off his Christmas card list, left and right this year. Uh got into it a couple times, planted Matt Bolley into the boards. He didn’t like it. Got up and threw him a little sucker punch. The Blackhawks got a power play out of that. Uh he trucked somebody else earlier. I think it was Nico Sturm. Yeah. Um gave him a good old Sturm check. Um and uh they the Wild didn’t like that either. Uh he was out there putting dudes on their butts and anytime he was on the ice and there was a post post whistle skirmish, he was in the middle of it. That’s the Conor Murphy that enders himself to his teammates as the uh as Jeff Blaser likes to say, one of the papa bears of this team. He’s leading by example. Uh preseason game. You don’t need to be doing that, but he did it and it it sent a message and a tone and I loved seeing it. Maybe trying to put some physicality on film for later in the year when teams are looking for veteran defenseman. Maybe. All right. Uh Mario nominated Ilia McKay. We’ll have him explain why when he’s on. Uh but I think you probably figure it out. So you can vote right now on the poll on YouTube for our game pucks. So get those in. We’ll reveal the winner at the end of the show. Couple super chats we’re going to get to, but let’s hear from Nick Felino first. Uh he was in the locker room after the game and here’s what he had to say. You guys seem to be dictating a lot. Did the second period with all the penalties and everything just kind of disrupt the flow and everything? Yeah, I I think that’s a great lesson for our group. I think we are a team that’s that has an understanding of of when we play like we did in the first, we can be real dangerous and really hard to play against and and uh and we set the tone. I mean, that was a and obviously, you know, they’re going to make a push back, but we can’t allow them to, you know, push back with with the amount of penalties we took. And, you know, just stay disciplined. We can’t beat ourselves. You know, that’s the the big message in in this game today where you kind of let them crawl back in and um or, you know, on the other side too, if we get a power play, we got to find a way to score one, two. So, um, you know, you’re working out those kinks, but, uh, for the most part, I really like feel like kind of a dress rehearsal for Tuesday with pretty much the full lineup. Yeah, it’s nice. I mean, it just feels like hockey. The other, you know, not to be rude, just the other games feel like they’re just chaos a lot of times. So, you’re trying to work on your systems. You got guys in places they’re not supposed to be. And so, this game felt like, you know, two teams that are are, you know, down to the numbers and and NHL teams. So, it was a it was a nice game to get in before Tuesday. And uh I think guys are really excited to get to the you know first game of the season. You guys have had a lot thrown at you in a little amount of time. Where do you feel like you guys stand with systems and how much is that just going to be a work in progress maybe early in the season? Yeah, I think because of the way we’re coached though, I think it’s coming really fast. You know, the the the attention to detail, the information that we’re getting, it’s direct. It’s it’s purposeful and it allows us to, you know, attain it as fast as possible. So, I saw that even in our games, just how much better we got throughout the periods and uh even our third period seemed to be our best periods a lot of nights. So, that’s a good sign. Guys know what they need to do and uh have adapted well to that and we’re obviously going to continue to work on things as teams make adjustments against us. But, um I’m really encouraged by our group. I’m I’m honestly excited about the what’s what’s to come here at the start of the season. And, you know, I think we just have to learn that, you know, we have to be the team that was like that in the first period, not about the team that beats itself. Those are old habits. We got to get out of our game and and understand we’re a different team. What do you see on your goal? Uh just a nice play. Our D were shot ready, so just nice to battle. We talked about stacking. Uh it’s it’s a word we use and and trying to get some traffic and you know was able to get a stick on it. It was a great shot by Ren and and that’s I think what we’re we’re trying to be more assertive up top is just shot ready and and get those pucks in so when we do have that second to to get away from a defender we can use our sticks to our advantage. And it was nice to see you know basically saying like uh you know the early preseason kind of sucks because no one knows what they’re doing. got all them all them punk ass kids out of here and uh shakes fista cloud send them back to rock be unorganized and in my way down there. Yeah. No, it’s uh these guys are ready for the season to begin. I And someone hit me up on Twitter like why is the preseason so freaking long? Thank god they’re cutting it back to four games next year cuz it’s be worse. The Blackhawks could be the Red Wings who play eight. That is ridiculous. Why? Eight chances for our guys to get hurt. Well, that’s why they’ve got 63 hyphenated names on their roster cuz they all got to play all these extra eight preseason games. That’s 10% of the regular season. Four is enough. I’m the Yeah. Two to two to mix in your kids and give him a look. Four is probably too much. Two for your NHL team. Call it a day. That’s fine. I like it. That’s totally fine. Uh next season, the regular season will be starting in September. That’s That sounds awesome. All right, we got a super chat here about Frank Nazar and then how long is that Frank Nazar, you know, is all right, let’s answer this question on Nazar playing Nazar and then we’re going to bring Mario in from the United Center. This is from Aaron. He says, “Jay, I and I Greg, I guess you can’t answer this. I know you had Nazar at 20-ish goals this season. Has he shown you enough for 30 plus now or is it too early for you?” I mean, the season hasn’t started yet. I think Frank Nazar is fully capable of 30 goals. I think that will be when Frank Nazar is fully established. Um, that will be kind of the expectation, but to expect it in year two, he’s going there will be some times this year where Frank Nazar hits a slump. There’s a reason the term sophomore slump exists. It happens to Connor Baddard had a down second year, had fewer points in more games his second year. It is natural. So Nazar looks great now. I think he I think 20 is guaranteed from Nazar this year. Obviously health assumed. Um but I would not bet 30 this year just yet. 30 is a pretty big mark for a player that young. Yeah, I think he’ll flirt with it. Uh I think he’s somewhere around, you know, 26 to 28 goals this year. He’ll flirt with it. That would be great. Um, I think he’ll he’ll have a couple of those Patrick Sharpesque weeks where he scores six goals in four games. You know, you do that twice. That’s half halfway there already. So, um, yeah, I think he can flirt flirt with 30. I I it’s tough to predict it, but he’ll we’ll be talking about it. you know, we’ll be in we’ll be in February, March going, maybe he can get 30. That would be wonderful. If that happens, I think you could probably forget the Hawks being the worst team in hockey. I think that’s that’s off the board if that’s if that’s the case. All right, let’s hear from the franchise himself, uh, Frankie Franchise, Frank Nazar. Then we’ll bring in Mario from the UCI after the break zone. with the we were just talking to Nick. It seemed like the first period you guys were doing what you wanted and and you know how much of a lesson as he called it was that second period of staying disciplined and everything. Yeah, I think that’s it. That’s the whole thing is just staying out of the box, find a way to you know stay levelminded even after we get scored on. Um not go out take another penalty and kind of go right back at in the same position we’re at. Just um staying out of the box and and just doing our job. guys feel like you’re getting the I know the power play seems like you’re getting the opportunities in in more than one preseason game and and do you feel that way that the opportunities are there at least? Yeah, 100%. I mean, preseason is not going to be perfect and you know that and I think it’s a time where we’re all learning new things and a lot of stuff’s going through. Everyone’s had it and um you know, we’re still trying to fix up fix up all the all the small little things and you know, as long as the results there and and the process is, you know, continue to grind. Um we’re we’re really just focused on on that and and really just the process. For you personally, were you happy with just the the preseason kind of picking up where you left off last season? I mean, yeah, of course. Um, I think that it could be a lot better, but I think I think I think anybody could say that. Um, a lot of parts of my game that I need to round out from summer, playing a lot of summer hockey, um, you know, get rid of those bad habits. You know, I need to stop on pucks, go through guys, stop reaching, just stuff like that. But, um, I think as the season goes along and and comes up here on Tuesday, you know, start working those things out of my game and and these games top. How do you guys feel going in Tuesday? I mean, tonight was pretty close to a dress. Yeah. Great. Feel unbelievable. Super confident. Feel happy, having fun. I’m excited. All right, there he is. Frank Nazar. That was uh postgame today. Thanks to Tracy Myers for letting us record one interview. Good job. Uh, all right. Mario is standing by from the UC. He’s going to join us next. Do us a favor. Hit that like button. We’re hitting the break zone one more time on CHDL Blackhawks powered by Bet 365. 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And if you’re watching us on YouTube, as you should be, you could see there’s Mario Tarbosi. He’s at the United Center. Uh he just was in the locker room with Frank Nazar and Nick Felino. and also with uh Jeff Blash after the game. Mario, what did we learn that we did not already know? Um, I I I think what we learned is that this dress rehearsal, as it’s kind of been called tonight, uh, for the NHL group, feels a lot better, uh, and the group feels more confident, and I think we probably feel more confident, too, than we did one year ago with the dress rehearsal that the NHL group had. through last preseason, it really felt like there was a lot of, at least to me, some chemistry issues with the group. Didn’t seem like things were crisp. The only game they won in the preseason last year was the final game of the year, which was basically the Icehogs game, which it’ll be tomorrow. Um, I think through the preseason, this group feels more ready for the regular season, at least from my perspective, and and I think I think the team feels that, too. I I think Jeff Blashel tonight talked about how the group has kind of handled learning the the the new system and how things have gone from basically the first preseason game against Detroit to tonight and how he said that it feels like there’s a lot less thinking and a lot more natural play uh happening. So, I think tonight obviously wasn’t perfect, but I think there were a lot of still small good things to take away even though, you know, that second period kind of sunk you. It’s a good point you make about last year’s preseason because I think we watched those games and they were bad and they looked horrible and I think we were trying to say well you know there’s a lot of new faces and veterans still they’ll turn it on when the season begins and they didn’t. And some I remember we talked about this early in camp. Somebody said, it might have been Felino said like last year it felt like a bunch of guys were here holding spots. This year it feels like a more cohesive team. And again, you don’t want to you don’t want to oversp speak or overestimate what’s happening in the preseason, but if we’re contrasting this preseason to last, it is night and day. Not only in the intensity of play, in the in the feelings after the game, and the way the guys are standing up for each other. I think there’s just a lot of boxes that you’re being checked despite the result that look a lot better and have you feeling a lot more confident heading into the season. Yeah, I I I think what we’ve seen and and I know a lot of the preseason was fixated on the young guys and who was or was not going to make the team um out of camp, but I think the group that played tonight, I think you feel really confident that throwing them into the start of the regular season, um I think you feel confident with it. I don’t think you have to worry about, you know, having young guys uh jumping in and taking on the Panthers night one um or anything like that. I think you feel confident with the group that you have and I think you feel confident with the style of play that they want to play that this group wants to play that Jeff Blanchel wants them playing. I think they’re settling into that style. So, compared to last year, like to have that footing going into the first uh game of the season, I think at least that is um a step above what we had last year. Definitely a different feel this season. Um, but we we saw that at the end of last season, you know, after Taylor Hall was traded, after Seth Jones was traded, and some of these young kids got called up, and then you had, you know, Oliver Moore and Sam Renzel and Ryan Green show up at the very end. Like, that room changed very noticeably, and that’s carried over this year. It’s not the veterans team anymore. It’s the kids team. And it’s going to be a lot of fun. Even just the the feeling in the room, take the games out of it. Just being in that room, everyone feels tight. I feel like last year it felt like two sides. Did you guys get that feeling too? It was like this side and this side and it was very little like interacting. It just feels like one cohesive room right now. And it is led by like I think like the loudest guy in there is Colt and Doc. Yeah. you know, like not in a bad way, but like these young guys who were new and feeling their way last year are feeling like part of things now and there is just a different vibe around the team. And vibes don’t mean wins. But I don’t know. I just I I’ve just been very pleased with the way this preseason’s looked short of that one Detroit game where Colton Doc Colton Doc in the room reminds me a lot of Max Doi when he was here. like the very vocal guy that every time we walk in is in the middle of yelling something probably inappropriate and then realizes we’re in the room and kind of like oh okay I’m done talking now and bitching about bio steal Max Tommy was famous for that too. He’d walk in in the middle of a fbomb tyrate and he’d be like, “Whoops.” Sorry. Yeah. I need to ask Colton his thoughts on the uh what is it? Body armor now. See if he likes it. Yeah. Uh all right. We now we’ve got some uh video from Jeff Flashill. Uh do you want to set these up? I know we’ve got three to play here. Yeah. Uh first wanted to talk about the penalty kill. Obviously, three power play goals against in the second period. That’s that’s the difference in the game. And uh Jeff Blashel talked about what did and did not work with the penalty kill tonight. Um Jay, I know you and I kind of mentioned it during the game, but still getting used to the structure, watching the structure of the penalty kill and how much time and space it seems like the teams have. Um but here’s what Bashel had to say on on how they uh did and did not execute on the PK tonight. Yeah, I think it’s hard when you uh I you know, I liked their first, I liked their third. um took too many penalties and then so then you’re killing I actually thought we had moments in the kill at doing a good job and then uh either a mistake or kind of a bouncing two of them went off people and in um that doesn’t mean we weren’t without making mistakes in those situations but they did go off us and then they went off their chest you know so I actually was fine with the with the u experience that we’re gaining on the kill but just but it’s a it’s a hard recipe like from a lesson moving forward is you can’t take that many penalties and you’re going to have the odd penalty that you can’t avoid, but you can’t uh you can’t take the unavoidable penalty. So, but I thought we got back at it in the third and played pretty good hockey. Yeah. I mean, mainly the third goal, the Ryan Hartman goal. Uh I he fires a shot that’s clearly going wide. It hits Wyatt Kaiser stick and goes in. Like that’s that’s one of those things that it’s it’s almost not necessarily the pro like the penalty kill’s fault. Just one of those bounces. So, I think you look at it and you say you give up three three power play goals and you say, “Oh, something something completely went wrong.” As Blash is kind of laying out, sometimes it’s it’s you’re not really necessarily doing anything wrong. It’s just things you get the advantage and the bounce goes your way. Though feel like just watching the way they defend on a penalty kill, there’s a lot of there’s a lot of space for shooters. I feel like there’s always somebody wide open on the opposing power play and like I know it’s probably by design. I know Ben Pope’s been writing about a lot like they’re not collapsing into the net like they have in the past. So, um he was tweeting about tonight actually that Spencer Knight has to be more like aware of the rebounds he’s giving up which he’s usually pretty good at. But I just feel like there’s a lot of it looks very Jeremy Calony with a lot of like chasing and moving and like oh I got to get over here now. Like the uh Terasenko goal um Lefchov tried to close off and just couldn’t get there fast enough cuz he was you know towards oops towards the towards the middle of the ice and then you know uh Terrace was kind of behind him to his right and he’s got to turn around close that space really quickly. I don’t know. It looks a little loosey goosey. I think part of it though could be learning the system. And I think I know Blashel said it took the Tampa Bay Lightning a good month last year to figure out his penalty kill system. And once they did it was the best in hockey. Yeah. So it they and like Blasher likes to use a more he likes the forwards to be aggressive and be more at the top of the zone and he was able to have a lot of success in Tampa because you had Anthony Cerelli and Brandon Hegel in those roles. Um Blackhawks don’t necessarily have those guys, but you have some aggressive fast forwards that can cover a lot of ground. They just got to get used to that. And when you got your kill out there that doesn’t have those guys, you probably have to play it a little differently. You know, Tavoter Vinan’s out there, you probably have to be a little more conservative. But when you have McKay and Nazar out there, you could be a little more aggressive. Yeah. All right. What else we got from Blashil? Well, keeping the theme of the special teams going, um, another night for the Blackhawks with numerous power plays, but uh, no power play goals. Um he talked about the preseason as a whole and how the power play has has looked and the chances they’ve created and how he’s felt about it. So here’s what Blash had to say about the power play tonight. Overall, yes moments. No, you know, like we got to I don’t know our percentage, but I I don’t feel like we’ve won enough faceoffs on it. That’s one area that we’re going to have to look at for sure. Got to make sure, you know, it’s hard if you’re constantly having to get in the zone. you’re wasting 30 seconds plus, you know, you have to get in the zone. Um, I think once we’ve been in, we’ve it it’s there’s had moments of of good, but I think it’s still a work in progress. Wasting time trying to get into the zone. Uh, one way to fix that. Stop the freaking slingshot. Yeah. Um, it was the the entries were a little better tonight. I feel like when Bard carried in, he was having success getting it in, but uh, it just aggravates me. It’s it’s aggravating and I know we’ve we’ve we’ve beaten it into the ground the point but especially um that second unit with with Lev man like he is he’s a he’s a heart attack uh waiting to happen with the the power play entry system but to to Blash’s point like when they are in the zone and getting things set up they’ve created a lot I mean the the last game going you know you go 0 for six but you had six opportunities and We had 12 shots on goal in those six opportunities. You look at the the metrics tonight for all situations and the Blackhawks led in in Corsy and Fenwick and shots and you know scoring chances, high danger and a lot of that you know you you attribute to the the chances that they’re creating on the power play. So it’s it’s good to get those reps now once the games count starting Tuesday. You want to see those chances get buried. Yeah, 100%. But I you’re right. Like once they’re set up, the puck movement’s been good. The I think we’re obviously seeing Bedard being way more aggressive shooting. I want to see Lev more. And I they were actually talking about that. Um Troy was off today. So was Charlie and John Weidman talking about Lev. And this is something you would notice, Mario, is it’s almost like he’s being tentative on his passes. Like he’s not zipping his passes a lot. like there’s a lot of kind of like gentle nudging of the puck which to me and I think you agree I think we all agree that’s a sign of a guy thinking it’s a sign of a guy trying not to screw up and I think Levinov what makes him what will make him a great defenseman will be those instincts and will be those risks he takes and those moves that only a handful of guys can make and those plays only a handful of guys should make I should say. Uh, but right now I I see a guy out there worrying, you know, and saying like I gotta make this good pass. And as soon as you start thinking you’re screwed. So there are going to be moments this year with Ardum left, I guarantee it, where we spend a good 80% of our postgame shows telling people to calm down about Ardum Lefchov. I hope it’s going to happen. I hope those are only road games. No, we’re going to call you in. I’ll be busy. We’ll zoom you in. I’ll be busy. I don’t I don’t have a computer at home. Um yeah, Leonov definitely needs to be a little more instinctual on the ice. Uh he’s, you know, as you said, thinking too much and the second you start thinking on the ice, you’re you’re you become slower and that’s when you usually make mistakes. um case in point with that play where he kind of turned to look for the slingshot and was like, I don’t know what to do and then it gave up a short-handed chance. Uh but it certainly appears that the Blackhawks are going to let him play through all of that. They’re going to have patience. He’s making the opening night roster there. That to me was never in doubt in training camp. Uh him and Kaiser are starting to build some good chemistry together. they’re going to let him work it on out at the NHL level. And listen, if it gets to the point where it’s not getting any better, he can go back to Rockford and you know, you can have Kevin Cinsky come up or Ethan Delastro or any one of the young guys you got down there. You’ll be okay. Well, that’s something we should get to, too. No one on another solid night. I feel like he sort of won his job. I you know it may have already been decided but tonight I think was another definitive like he looks faster to me by the way. Yeah. Anybody else? I mean I I don’t know. I don’t He just I don’t know if he looks faster. He just looks more confident with the puck. Sure. Deciding more decisive. Sure. knows what to do where he’s kind of used to the NHL speed now where before as a you know first time player that you know you can get caught on your heels a little more because you’re not used to that speed. So yeah, I think he’s going to be you know an opening night roster for the second year in a row. He’s got a little more physicality. Had an assist tonight. Um you know he he looked pretty good. Uh, you know, Delmastro still going to be a good player, but struggled in preseason. You want to talk about a guy that was thinking too much on the ice, that was a guy that felt the pressure of I’m fighting for a roster spot. I need to make every perfect play and then when you try and make every play perfect, you usually don’t make any. Yeah. Yeah. I I I think it’ll be interesting to see the the defensive group that they play tomorrow cuz Blashel did say you he said this morning said tonight there’s still going to be some guys that played tonight that’ll play tomorrow. So I wonder if Allen will be one of those guys just to kind of get one more one more look uh at at the entire defensive group. But yeah, I think Greg to your point like he does feel like he’s more confident and more I think just it seems like this the speed and pace of the game, the pace of this decision- making, he’s a little bit more used to it now at the at the NHL level and the professional level. So, I think he’s um I think he’s getting it and and I think he had a pretty good preseason. Um to the point about Levino, too, I I think one of the things is, you know, he’s still young. like he still could be playing at Michigan State right now and be teammates with Gavin McKenna and I think maybe there’s some or I’m sorry he’s at Penn State. Uh, I think there’s some like Lefchov is interesting cuz there’s what makes him great also I think makes him hard to hard to like feel confident in at times because he what makes him great is like the fluidity of his game and just kind of like how it seems like he in a way it’s like a nonchalant way of playing when it’s working, you’re like, “Wow, this guy can really make be a difference maker and moves differently than, you know, most other defenseman and and can create offensively.” But then there’s times where he lays off a pass in his own zone to the defenseman trying to go Dto D and it just sits there in the middle of the ice and it’s a turnover when you just want it to be tape to tape, just zip it across like it shouldn’t be a problem. So, I I think there’s still a lot of learning to do with him and and and like you said, like there’s going to be times where the way he plays makes you get out of your seat, and then the ways that he plays sometimes are going to make you clutch your chest. Um, but I think that’s that’s what the Blackhawks are going to let him figure out and work through at the NHL level. And um hopefully this season it’s the you know the scales start to tip that you see a little bit more of that confident sure of himself uh defenseman. The goatee is throwing me off. It does look evil. It makes him look like a Bizarro South Park character. You know you remember in the South Park episodes where like the Bizarro war they all had they were all evil except Cartman was nice Cartman. had the he he looks like he’s evil Levoff. Yes. So I think like every time he makes a bad play, it’s because it’s Bizarro Lev Levchinoff with the goatee. Could be. Uh Chuck Fe says his head. I was say he shaved his head. He looked like Stone Cold. Yeah. See, that’d be cool. Put him in a leather vest out there. That’d be a good time. Uh Chuck Fee says, uh I can’t read that. Sean, can you scroll back up in the chat? Uh I think a lot of people are being overly critical of Levoff. If that one shot doesn’t glance off the shaft of the goalie, hello. Uh, we’d be singing a different story. Be singing wood. People are going to be Well, look, you we’re also going to have a percentage of our audience that will that did not like that he was the pick over Demov and cannot let that go. No. And I mean, and so that’s something that I talking gibberish now. Lev is going to be at least in the short term the new Seth Jones. So is Burkovsky by the way. I gu Mark my words. You know, you know who the No, you know who the most unpopular player on this team is right now? It’s Sam Laughafery. Oh, that’s true. He is got the he is got the uh the eye of the the fan base because how dare Yeah. they trade away future Hall of Famer Lucas Reichel and keep Sam Laughy, which they haven’t done yet for the record. Wonder if he plays tomorrow. Elliot Friedman said uh there are no what do you say? No shortage of suitors. Gary suitors. Yeah, there’s a lot. There’s Gary. There’s a lot of suitors. Yeah, I think he said no shortage of sutters. Oh, he just makes a lot more sense. He just forgot to pronounce the extra T. We’ll see. Maybe if Sam he was better looking or be more outrage. I don’t know. Yeah, the the funny thing with Lechinov on that on that play is that that shot was wide open right there and it takes just an extra half second to get it off and it doesn’t go and he just turns around and starts yelling at himself, staring at the at the rafters of the UC while the play is still going on. I don’t know what uh I don’t know what the broadcast showed, but I he just looked to the heavens and kind of spun around like, “Oh my god.” He yelled at himself. Um moments, teaching moments. Labowski says, “Pointing out what’s happening with Lev is not being overly critical.” I not talking about us, but there’s going to be people that amplify every single see see this turnover. See, well, I mean, the deod highlight pinned. Is it not overly critical of being critical of preseason play? No, I I I think we’re just talking. Look, there’s when Leftov was drafted, the understanding was there will be moments from him that are chaos bringing. Like he will make decisions that you’re like, “Oh my dear God.” And sometimes he’ll be fast enough and skilled enough to make up for it. And sometimes you’ll be like, “What the hell was he thinking?” But as his career goes on, the gap will be further and further away of good moments to bad moments. He had a play in the second period today. A pass that was like, oh my god, eye popping on the tape. I think it was Donado on the power play. It was an unbelievable, like I said earlier, handful of guys can make that play. Those are going to happen more and more often with more and more experience. And let’s not let’s not forget this guy’s played in what five leagues over the last four years or something like that. He’s learning the language. Like there’s a lot on Levino’s plate here. Aside from the pressure of being a rookie in the NHL at age 20, that’s pressure alone. And then you take everything else that’s there with it. He’ll be fine. He’s going to be a great hockey player. I don’t think there’s any doubt about it. It’s just going to take some patience and time for him. The way you were describing like he’s going to have those moments where you’re like, “Wow.” And those moments like, “Oh, man.” It gave me flashbacks to like 2010 Christopher Ste. Sure. Where you’re like, “What are you doing? Oh my god, that worked.” Yeah. I think we’re going to have a I think we’re going to have a few of those moments this week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Uh is there one more? Did you get them all in? The last Yeah, the last one from Blash was uh just kind of talking about what was uh working tonight. And I I think Greg, you had mentioned um some of the the the five on five offensive zone play during the game. Um that it was starting to look look pretty good and and again, you kind of look at the metrics of the game. Blackhawks were even, you know, even though in a losing effort on five on five, they were right there um with right there with the Wild in and creating chances and um Blash I think speaks about that and you know how how it worked tonight and how it’s kind of looked throughout the preseason and everything. I again you know there’s none in the in the in the uh second you know so much special teams both ways probably. I thought our forch check in ozone was the best it’s looked. Um that you know they’re a pretty good breakout team. I thought that was the best it’s looked. Um I think there’s still some areas in Dzone we need to shore up. A couple teaching things. I think there’s a big one is that we have to do a better job of of still like kind of either breaking out clean or being stronger on some of our plays. There’s times to punt sometimes, but when we do that, we have to make sure we get pucks out. I just thought we left too many pucks in our zone. So then you get in a little bit of scramble mode. All right. I wasn’t listening to that. I’m sorry. And then the ghosts of the UC uh showed up. That’ll happen. That’ll happen. Uh all right. Before we wrap up, we uh gave our game pucks. Uh do you want to explain your McKay pick? Well, kind of piggybacking off of um Bluel’s comments there about, you know, the the forchecking and the and the ozone play. Bev, man, he his speed and his tenacity to go and get pucks and to and to, you know, break up plays and and and keep things alive in transition. He was everywhere tonight. Um, I know he’s not you he’s not going to show up on the score sheet every night or anything like that, but you know, the the way that he plays with the speed he plays with um he was getting physical tonight, too, in the in the uh scrum that ensued off of the first Conor Murphy hit. Um, McKay, I think it was Matt Baldy, jumped him from behind and gave him like a like a club right across the face as he was pulling him back. like McCabe is a guy that I I think doesn’t get a lot of uh a a lot of attention and you know for a guy that scored 20 goals last season um I think he’s I think he’s somebody that plays a really effective style, plays with a lot of speed, um has, you know, has some some some skill to him as well. like he’s going to be a guy that either I feel like is going to put up a really good season and be a really sneaky good trade piece at at the deadline or he even might be somebody that plays so good that the Hawks say we’re going to keep you around for maybe another year or two um while the rest of these young guys you know overripen and McKay might be a guy that fits hole system perfectly. I would love him back on a like a two-year deal because yeah, you might see the debuts of Bavar and you might see the debut of Fondell this year like you did last year with Green and and with more, but then they might say, “But we’re going to give these guys a year in Rockford.” Like, you don’t need to have everybody turn pro the second they can turn pro. Having a veteran with speed that can kill penalties and and pop in 15 to 20 goals, that’s fine. that and that’s a guy if you had to force him down to the bottom six or the bottom line I mean fine you can live with that it’s not he’s not going to break the bank uh I would like to have him back as a nice kind of versatile insurance piece this is the last year of Jason Dickinson and Nick Felino’s contracts there’ll be a spot for to keep McKay of if you don’t want to bring back Dickinson for more time uh that yeah that there’s no issue I’ve got I will always have a spot on my roster for a guy that plays like Ilia McKay does. Yeah, 100%. All right, before we wrap up, Mario, any uh any last notes? Uh, no, no, I think we we we hit it pretty good. Back at it tomorrow. Um, Ice Hogs, uh, Ice Hogs versus the Blues. All right, thanks for joining us. That’s Mario Tierbosi. Follow him on Twitter, Mario_tierbossy. We’ll talk to you tomorrow at 6. Um, all right. Who’s our winner for the game, Pucks of the Game? It was pretty close. Um, and by pretty close, it wasn’t close at all. Conor Murphy won 52% of the vote. No kidding. I’m a man of the effing people. Wow. 22 to 22 to 52. Greg wins by a landslide. I’m a man of the people. Maybe you guys start watching the game. Just saying. Uh, you know, I think I think my adoring public miss me and what I bring, you know, I make you guys look better. That’s I I I make you guys sound better. There are a couple pretty rude writings that specifically called you some Jay some pretty nasty slurs. I’m keeping them away. No, I’m just going to keep them away. Rattle them off. No, it’s all right. I want to hear them. They’re not FCC friendly. Oh, okay. Fair enough. All right. Well, we will be back uh tomorrow. Same drill, same staff. Sean, do you be here tomorrow? No. Oh, we have Steven descending from on high? Yes. Is the red carpet uh laundered? No. Did we lay out the rose petals for Steven back from Vegas? I thought he was coming back tonight. He’s back. But no, the rose petal thing didn’t work out. I have the trumpeters arrived yet. No, the trumpeters got stuck in Vegas, funnily enough. Dang. So Steven’s here, but the trumpeters are in Vegas. All right. Well, Steven will be here tomorrow. We can we can mock him for his for his decommitt to our show, his decommmit. Also want to say tonight was Katie Duffy’s last day at uh CHTO. She’s on to I don’t want to say bigger or better, but different things. And we’re very happy for her. A a personal promotion for Katie Duffy. So, thanks to Katie for uh she does primarily the Bull Show, but she’s helped us out a lot on this show as well. So, good luck to Katie in her next endeavor. I don’t know if she’s announced her next endeavor yet, so I will let her do that on her own. She talked about it on the last half of the bull show, but I also don’t know if she announced the Yeah, go watch that if you want to see and then hit the like button there, too. All right, we’ll talk to you tomorrow after after Icehogs and Blues on the CHGO Blackhawks podcast powered by Bet 365 [Music] [Applause] like the mayor.

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Despite a furious rush from the Blackhawks at the end of the game, the Wild escaped Chicago with a 3-2 win at the United Center. The Blackhawks got goals from Frank Nazar and Nick Foligno in the loss. Join Greg Boysen and Jay Zawaski in studio, and Mario Tirabassi from the United Center on this CHGO Blackhawks Postgame Podcast.

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1:20 Hawks give good effort vs. MIN
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33:00 Mario joins from the UC
39:00 Blashill on the PK
42:25 Blashill on the PP
46:00 Thoughts on Levshunov
55:05 Blashill on what worked

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