Celtics Vow to UNLEASH Physical Play | Joe Mazzulla’s UNCONVENTIONAL Methods TRANSFORM the Celtics
The Boston Celtics vow to play physical and Pton Pritchard has the scars to prove it. Plus, Joe Missoula explains the spike ball thing and it is great. You’ll hear it right now on the Locked On Celtics podcast. Uh-huh. Be ever ready to see who else could it be? What they going to say now? Screaming like JT Cares. We kept the madness every game, every practice. Prime time Deon D White on the sideline. Rain and Jace. How we started. Rais how we finish. Locked on Celtics. Pot home of the winners. Hey there. Welcome back to the Locked On Celtics podcast. It’s right here on the Lockdown Podcast Network where it’s your team every day. Your team is the Boston Celtics and I talk about them every Monday through Friday. Bonus podcast when they play on the weekends and you know just bunch of free podcasts for you wherever you get your podcast. It’s on YouTube. You can watch the show if you’d like. You can get into the comment section there and share your thoughts with your fellow Celtics fans. Become an everyday or join me every day of this regular season. Like I said, every show is free and it’s a lot of fun, I hope, for you and maybe educational, too. I’m John Carell, beatwriter for Boston Sports Journal. I’ve been doing a version of this job for about 20 years now. I’ve also written a couple of books about the team. Today’s show is brought to you by FanDuel. Download that FanDuel app right now. If you’re a new customer, you can bet five bucks. And if that bet wins, you get 300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Head to fanduel.com to get started. Uh lots from the weekend of practices in this show. Uh the uh later on. Well, first of all, uh I just want to say this team is extraordinarily likable, I think. And that’s going to be something I expand on in the in the third segment. Uh, the second segment I’m going to dedicate to the spike ball and Joe Misoula’s explanation of why the Celtics have started recent practices with a spikeball tournament. And uh, listen, I we talked about it last week with uh, Tom and it I I expressed my like I I really enjoyed it. I thought it was very uh translatable skill-wise. Joe dives really deep. You’re going to want to hear everything that he said about it. That’s in the second segment. But I want to start here with Payton Pritchard and playing physical. The Celtics are going to be a physical team this year and uh they’re going to they’re going to play fast. They’re going to play physical. They’re they’re they’re going to play a style that I think you’re going to enjoy. Now, I got to share this picture. Now, I’m sorry for people who are listening. Maybe you can get on to the YouTube page later. I’ll describe it. But I got to share this picture on YouTube of Payton Pritchard with this cut on his neck. It’s on the left side of his neck. I’ll describe it. It It looks like someone took like a fingernailsized chunk out of his neck. And if you’re watching on YouTube, that’s not blood that’s going down his neck. That’s a continuation of the scratch. So someone got after it, took a like I’m see like a divot. Sorry if that’s gross to people, but like took a divot out of his neck and continued that it reminds me of um God, who was it on the on the Pistons drawing a blank that had like always played with long fingernails. It was like I don’t know, somebody somebody needs to clip their fingernails there. Uh, so we were at practice on Saturday and I saw that we were talking about other stuff, just generic stuff. I saw that and I asked Richard, I was like, “Who took who took a divot out of your neck?” Here’s the whole thing. Now, there’s I didn’t have a mic on me, so I’m I try to have you listen to some of the my questions. It’s a little tough to hear my questions, but th here’s Pton Pritchard’s exchange. This turned into a whole big conversation about the Celtics wanting to play physical today. That was yesterday, but uh it’s been very physical. So, it’s definitely been a war out there. I am tired, but it’s good to push the body today’s uh limits to get ready for the season. So, definitely pushing ourselves. You guys What’s that like? Like what what’s it like being physical? No, I mean like just to what level is it going on? Uh it’s just you know just I mean you see like OKC and them who won the the championship like they get away with a lot of like hands, fouls, physicality, stuff like that. So like the NBA I feel like in the playoffs is like you know allowing a lot more physicality to happen but you got to learn how to play through it and be more physical. So uh we’re emphasizing it and um yeah it’s been good that physicality you mentioned being not afraid to stop. Yeah, for sure. So we got to have that. Yeah. like you’re you’re not a player that has committed many fouls. I don’t have quite more willing to kind of get in there and maybe kick a couple and kind of push the limits of that physicality. Yeah, for sure. I mean, like you get six fouls, but it’s just a different emphasis. Like before we were playing more of a safe defense of like, you know, switching, live with contested shots, uh don’t foul, you know, don’t put people to the free throw line, but that’s kind of changed. The NBA evolves every year, so you got to, you know, change your game with it. So it worked for us when we won the championship. So didn’t work for us as much last year. So we got to evolve. Have you gotten a sense that like like things are being called differently at all this year? Like I know the refs have been around a lot. Are you guys trying to play? No, I we don’t know that yet. I feel like that just comes when you play through the season and things change. Maybe they start calling different calls. But right now we just trying to emphasize pace and physicality. So, so in terms of like ramping up playoff, you’re talking about like playoff level level physicality, bring that from the start of the season essentially, not waiting until the playoffs. I’d rather I’d rather play very physical and fast like that and then if they start making calls, then we have to change through that rather than like not doing it and then they’re not calling me. You know what I mean? Like let’s start off with playing physical and then we can make adjustments off that. I thought it was interesting that he talked about playing that safe defense uh last season and you know, you got to get you got to push and and be more intense and and be willing to take a couple of fouls. It’s something I’ve talked about here on this podcast before where Pritchard especially, one of the stats I want to see from Pritchard is a couple more fouls per game so he can get in there and get handsy and and and be physical. I’m glad that that element from over the summer is something that is being emphasized this year where yes, you got to get in there and you can’t be afraid to hey, if they call a foul, they call a foul, but you got to set a tone. You got to set a tone. When he brought up the OKC thing, I thought it was very uh very a great comparison just because they were not afraid to foul last year and they played some really great defense and they definitely test the limits of you can’t call them all. Right. That’s when when we saw the Celtics last year uh beat the the the tar out of OKC in one half and then fall apart in the second half. That defense really really ramped up. That was an incredible defensive effort and super physical and we saw it in that Orlando series. And the the league, I’m sure, is is always trying to find that balance of like how much do you allow to allow the league to to be, you know, physical and aggressive and and to have good competition versus, okay, we can’t let them just clothesline people. This can’t be a WWE match. But the Celtics need to find that line every game. Don’t be afraid early on to test the limits. See what they’re calling. see what they’re going to what you can get away with. That physical defense is going to be part of them taking chances, part of them forcing turnovers. There’s just no way you’re going to get in there and force as many turnovers as the Celtics need to force without getting your hands dirty, without getting in there and reaching and and and knocking people off their path a little bit. You got to you got to give people, you know, uh you got to tag when when they run a pick and roll. You got to get in there and jostle, you know, put put a put not just a a hand, you got to get a forearm in there in that role, man. You gota you got to really disrupt the timing of things. You can’t do what the Celtics did last year with this team. the safe defense. I understand that because the Celtics were a really good defensive team because you you could play it safe, so to speak, with Derek White and Drew Holiday and Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum, guys that can get up and contest shots. you can did generally a good job of squaring up and like not all the time there or especially early early in the season, but you can, you know, trust those guys when you need to to square up and and get a good contest and not not be uh reckless in all of that. And you have rim protectors. You had Porzingis. You had Horford. You had, you know, Kada coming off the bench. Luke Cornet was was a good rim protector. You had all of these options there uh to to protect you. So, you could play it kind of safe and just live with the contested shots, rebound the hell out of the ball, and go. This year’s team, you can’t do that. You because you’re not going to rebound as well. This team’s just not going to rebound as well. That’s they’re going to need to find ways to rebound. as well as they can, but it’s just not going to be the same. So, you have to get in there and be physical. You have to get in there and be willing to, hey, okay, reach in, foul. Oh, well, not a big deal. As long as you’re doing it, you know, you you understand time, score situation. You’re reaching in, uh, you’re trying to knock the ball free, but they’re not in the bonus. You don’t do it when they’re in the bonus. You you don’t do it. Um, like if you’re up, you don’t need to do it quite as much. Like if you’re building a lead, if the momentum is building towards a lead, you don’t want to give a stupid foul. Like this is going to be the real uh tough part about the defense that they’re going to play. These guys have to be smart about their physicality. You can’t you can’t give up dumb fouls. You have to be willing to take one. This is the old Eay Udoka kind of strategy. Remember when Derek White came over and Eay was like, you you got to be willing, you know? It’s okay to take one here or there. You got to get back to that. And I think that’s where the Celtics are going to go this year. Uh playing fast and physical defense. It’s kind of going to go hand in hand. So, real interesting stuff from Pritchard, especially, you know, like that was that thing was bad, man, on his neck. That was kind of gross. Um it looks like you almost got his corateed artery over there, man. That like kind of wow. I still Oh, he never answered my question, by the way, if you notice. He never answered my question about who got him. So, I still don’t know who got him. Um, but anyway, we’ll get more into like physical and and all that because this preseason games are starting up this week. We’re going to see how physical they’re going to be. But that’s definitely going to be a running theme all year. When I come back, Joe Mazula talks spikeball. I I just love this answer. I had to go back. Yes, I’m doing two segments on spikeball, but it’s so interesting to me. I feel like I got to share it. That is coming up next. Today’s show is brought to you by Pelaton. Pelaton is shaping the future of fitness with the brand new Pelaton Cross Training Tread Plus. It’s powered by Pelaton IQ and it’s their most advanced equipment yet. Designed to give you real-time guidance and endless ways to move, whether you’re running, lifting, or crossraining with your favorite instructors. This is training reimagined. And Pelaton is built for breakthroughs with tools that help you plan, stay motivated, and reach peak performance. 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Find Lockdown Fantasy Basketball on YouTube or wherever you found this podcast. It’s a part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Like I I got into it last week with Tom Westerhome about Spikeball. I really liked that they were playing it. Um, it’s just another Joe Mazoula unique thing where, you know, as I said last week, you know, he he had the baton toss. I mean, not the baton toss, the baton handoff. Uh, because he was trying to uh emphasize how in a relay race. Uh, you could be fast, but if you’re not doing the little things, you’re going to you you could fail and lose. And it was obvious kind of impression actually, but he’s always getting creative in how to emphasize that season’s um talking point, the the main thing that the Selish going to do. So, we turned to Spikeball and I thought, “Wow, this is this is great.” And I hadn’t had at that point a chance to ask him about it. And so, here it is again. Same thing. My questions in between are might be a little hard to understand. I think you’ll get the gist of it, but here’s Joe’s full explanation about why spikeball. Uh, I mean, I think it’s the closest thing to a a situ a two-on- two situation that you have to communicate. Uh, it’s it’s a react. Again, it’s a read. You have to read the angle of where it’s being put at. You have to read the angle of your teammate. You have to be able to get through with it’s a twoon- two situation. So, that’s a lot of what the game is. You’re in twoon two, threeon-ree situations. Very rarely are you in a five-on-ive situation. maybe if you’re switching everything at the end of the game, but the game is a constant uh you know ecosystem of small twoon twos, threeon- threes and being able to create those an advantage and a disadvantage. So those two games create that they test your reaction time. They test your ability to communicate. They test your ability to create angles. So I think those things are it’s another way to simulate what you’re going through on every possession of the game. Just settle on that, right? Like wake up one day and say, “Oh, spike balls. We’re going to Yeah. I mean, I think I think if you look at uh you know, you know, soccer for example, they have their Rondos, which is four on three. That’s probably one of the easiest Rondos and soccer is one of the easiest ways to create a bunch of different stuff, game-like situations, joy, teamwork, uh you know, different situations, whether it’s offensively or defensively. So, you can’t really do that because most of our guys are probably inept from a soccer standpoint. But, I think spike ball is the next closest thing to a Rondo type situation uh that you could be able to do. So, uh, how many ever ways we could test the communication, uh, and the reads of everything that’s going on in the game, we try to find ways to do that. Did you assign two on two teams or guys? Uh, our shred staff does a great job of helping come up with that. So, they they kind of take ownership of the warm-up stuff and so they’ll they’ll they have a lot of other good ideas and then they do a lot of the team stuff, too, cuz, you know, they’re important because they see individual dynamics when there’s eight guys lifting in the weight room every day. So they have a good understanding of what uh interactions uh with the guys are and who needs to be around each other and who flocks to each other and who that. So we rely on the strength staff a lot to kind of see what the dynamics of of the team are when it’s not just on the court cuz I think that’s important. That last part is is really the most brilliant part of it all that Joe relies on his strength staff and the assistant coaches and all that. in this case, the strength staff. He’s asking them who’s lifting together, what what combinations do we need to, you know, emphasize blah blah blah. And and so you not only have okay, spikeball’s fun and yeah, it’s translatable and all of that stuff, you have the pairing of certain guys specifically based on what you’ve already seen through the a lot of these guys have been here for three, four weeks before training camp officially started. So you’re seeing who’s talking to one another, who who might need to talk to one another, who’s got the good communication, who has the bad communication, how do you enhance that? That’s all part of it. And okay, so spikeball is a small little thing, right? It’s not like they’re going to play spikeball every day for all season and I’m making a huge deal of it. No, I mean, this is the second segment because, you know, it’s not the physical play and all that stuff. The actual basketball is the most important thing. But these little things, first of all, it brings out the competitive juices. Guys want to win. You put a score and a time on something. Guys going to want to win that that thing. If at that level, doesn’t matter what it is. Running to the bathroom, you know, eating, getting through lunch. If if somehow it’s scored and timed, these guys want to win it. Forcing that competitive nature, like winning is above all else. And so if it’s a person you haven’t talked to, well, guess what? You’re gonna have you’re going to have to talk to this guy now. And that just chemistry, communication, understanding, talking to talking to one another, figuring out the other team strategy, right? You’re you’re playing against I forget what the lineup was. Was it Pritchard and I forget who, but what do they like to do? And you’re figuring it out in real time. Okay, these guys like to do this. they like to go with a little soft toss here or they really like to spike it. And so you communicate, you learn things and you figure all of that stuff is exactly the same as basketball. And so that that whole concept for Missoula to take soccer drills, the Rondos, uh, as they’re called, which is a like he said a fouron three. It creates a disadvantage. which is like a game of keepaway to turn that and he’s like well what what could we do to mimic that and to settle on spikeball that that I don’t know if my brain could ever have gotten to that part but I think it’s like an early bit of genius from him and the coaching staff and everybody to say okay what do we need to emphasize here the two on twos the threes on threes and and all of that okay how do we do it how do we get these guys playing together and five minutes, 10 minutes at the beginning of practice and then you take that and you run with it. That stuff, that little that little bit is what’s going to make this team just that little bit better. Think of it as a video game, right? Where you accomplish a task and it gets you 5%, you know, it gets you XP, right? And you you level up a little bit, right? And that’s kind of the same concept here. Is it is it a big thing? No. But man, he’s earning he’s earning these guys, you know, a bit of XP here, right? He’s earning these guys points and it pushes them towards leveling up a little bit for a team that on paper I I question, you know, the talent on paper. I’m not sure. I’m really not sure where this team is going to land. How do you how do you exceed those expectations? When I sit there and I say 41, 42, 43 wins, how do you exceed those expectations? By getting guys to communicate really, really well, playing fast, playing physical, getting them all on the same page, all doing the same thing, accomplishing the same goal. The effort is going to win you a couple of games. Execution is going to win you a couple of games. If I think the talent is going to be 41 wins, let’s say, okay, well, you can tack on maybe two or three to, you know, based on effort, and you can tack on maybe two or three based on execution, and maybe you tack on two or three for coaching while you’re at 246. Well, now you’re at 47. You know, there’s things have to go right. But you take that baseline of talent and you go, okay, well, you add a couple here and a couple there and you 45 wins is not out of the question. 46 wins, 47 wins, not out of the question. 50 I think is pushing it. But and that’s a best like a best case scenario. obviously possible. But the more you look at this team, you go, “Okay, there’s a real strong exceeding expectations potential for this team now that I see it in action, which makes this team very likable already to me.” Let me get into that and why I think this is going to be a season where we’re all going to enjoy one way or the other. I’ll talk about that next. 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So, we have a we have a summer where they lose obviously they lose Tatum to the injury. They make the moves that they’ve made. They bring in uh you know a front court that you look at and you go I don’t know. Look, some of you have faith in them. We’ll see. I’m not sure how good they’re going to be, but we’ll have to see how they how they progress. But, okay. So all summer I look at just without any context like all right here’s the roster. Here’s what I can expect and I’m like mediocre team, right? It’s a it’s a middle of the road team. It’s not a top two seed. It’s probably a you know five or six seed. And then you know you start to see like I want to see what are they doing. How do they look at practice? How do they I don’t see I don’t get to see much of practice but you know you see like the the videos and the social team’s going to put out you know all positive stuff but you start to look at like okay I get this I see what they’re doing you hear everybody talk about oh my god this is a tough practice the emphasis on speed and transition it’s all transition and then physical and just the way the guys are talking about what they need to do and you say okay if everybody’s buying in like Pritchard is not going to lie. Um he might omit things, but he’s he’s out there when I asked him simply, “Who got your neck?” That’s it. And he got he’s the one that was like, “This is physical. You heard it. This is physical and I’m tired and this this is great.” And then so like, “Oh, okay. There’s the open door. Let’s go through that.” And you know, he asked Joe about it and he, you know, explains some more and whatever. I can see the potential. I can see the potential for this team kind of exceeding expectations. I can see the potential for this team to as as long as they stay healthy and this is the important thing there. The one thing about this roster construction is that it does leave kind of no room for error. Maybe Anthony Simons can step into if assuming that he’s going to come off the bench, he can step into a starting role for somebody, but that that does leave uh a big scoring punch like a need for that off the bench. So regardless, I just don’t think this team has a a lot of room for like a margin for error. So if somebody gets hurt or something like that, uh that’s that’s going to be tough to recover from. But I really feel like the effort is going to be there, the effort to be the fast team, the the effort to be the physical team to kind of try to replicate what the Thunder were able to do and take the lessons of well that’s the team that won the championship and the team that really really softened them up for the Knicks, the Orlando Magic. Like look at what happened in the playoffs. The Pistons beat the tar out of the New York Knicks. The Knicks survived that series and came into Boston like, “Oh, feeling like, oh yeah, this is we’re we’re okay. We get it. We get it now. We’ve been punched in the face and we understand it now.” And the Celtics got punched in the face by the Magic and we’re like just worn down. And it it really leveled the playing field in that second round. So the Celtics understand that like, well, we we just got, you know, really out physical. We really got worn down. And the team that played super physical defense won the NBA championship. And depth and speed was what got two teams to the NBA finals. It all adds up. It all adds up. You look at how rosters are going to be constructed in the second apron era. You look at all that stuff and you say, “Okay, this is it’s going to take effort and and really precise execution, a real focus to be like, okay, this is this is what we’re trying to do.” Um, everybody on the floor has to be on the same page knowing what you’re trying to do. If anybody’s a little slow, if anybody’s not sure that that player can’t be on the floor. You have to be precise and put that effort in. I think this team is going to do that. I think they have the guys. There’s a the right mix of like Jaylen Brown as the vet who has something to prove still as the number one guy. guys like Pritchard and Hower uh who have something to prove as starters presumably. Uh Derek White who has something to prove as a guy who’s like, “Hey, are we sure your success wasn’t because of uh Kristoffs Pzingis and Jason Tatum? Are we sure about that?” Like I feel pretty good about that, but a little something to prove. Josh Min with a ton to prove he’s trying to stay in the league. Uh Anthony Simons with a ton to prove. He’s been Joe Mazoula is on him constantly about his defense. Everybody’s got like experience but also something to prove and the way they’re going to play. I think it’s just going to be fun. I think this is going to be a fun team. There’s going to be a lot of evaluation. They’re going to be a lot of games where maybe they they don’t pull it out. They don’t have the talent. Um talent trumps all. Um and and so they’re not going to be as good as they were. They’re they’re probably not going to make a deep playoff run. I don’t expect that. But the potential, like I said before, the potential to overachieve, I think, is there. I think it’s there. And that’s going to make this team very likable. I think however this season ends, by the time we get to the end of it, whenever it ends, however it ends, we can look back on this season. And I think we’re going to look back on the season and go, you know what? That was that was that was kind of fun. That was kind of fun. So, we’ll see how it goes. But look, we got a couple of preseason games coming up this week. That’s going to be a lot of fun to watch. I can’t wait to see it in action. That’s going to be, I think, the best part. Uh, seeing it in action, seeing what kind of mistakes are being made, seeing how they’re going to figure things out. So, stick with me. I will break it all down. I will be here for you. I’ll, you know, my honest opinions and we’ll we’ll ride the ups and downs together daily, Monday through Friday. The show is always free. Uh, it’s always on YouTube, so you can go check it out there. Would really love to have you along there. Get into the comment section. Share your thoughts with me. 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Boston Celtics vow to play physical, and Payton Pritchard’s practice scars prove it. Is this the key to unlocking over-achievement?
John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal breaks down the Celtics’ intense training approach, featuring spike ball drills and a renewed focus on physicality. Hear from Pritchard on adapting to a tougher style and Coach Joe Mazzulla’s insights on innovative practice techniques. Karalis analyzes how this strategy could propel Boston beyond expectations, potentially overcoming roster limitations. The discussion covers the team’s depth, speed, and the exciting mix of motivated veterans and hungry young talent.
Tune in for an in-depth look at how the Celtics are reshaping their identity.
1:30 Celtics vow to play physical
3:52 Payton Pritchard on increased physicality in practice
8:11 Importance of physical defense and forcing turnovers
13:17 Joe Mazzulla explains Spike Ball’s benefits
19:51 How Celtics can exceed expectations this season
25:28 Team’s potential to overachieve despite roster limitations
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I loved hearing this, but it’s camp.
Everyone is talking a good game and all are rested and ready to go. Let’s see where we’re at with this around Dec, Jan. Talk is cheap. And sorry to go off topic, but shoutout to the NE Patriots man! (Christian Gonzalez had a Bill Russell shirt on pregame) They went into Buffalo tonight and shocked the Bills! A fantastic win. Thanks John! ☘️🔒