Cincinnati Bengals ‘sinking like a stone’ without Joe Burrow | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
WILL TAKE IT SEGUE. THE CINCINNATI BENGALS STINK RIGHT NOW. AND THEY’RE THE WORST 2 AND 3 TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE. AND IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN THEY LOST LAST WEEK, ZACK TAYLOR, THE COACH OF THE TEAM SAID HEY YOU KNOW, WE’RE STILL 2 AND 2 BUT I MEAN COME ON YOU’RE SINKING LIKE A STONE MAN. I MEAN YOU DON’T HAVE YOUR STARTING QUARTERBACK, IT’S FALLING APART. THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY TEAM THAT’S BEATEN THE JAGUARS AND SOMEHOW THEY DID IT WITH JAKE BROWNING TAKING MOST OF THE PLAYS WHICH DID GIVE THEM OPTIMISM, MOVING FORWARD AT 2 AND WAS IT 2 AND 0? I THINK IT WAS 2 AND 0. YEAH, THEY WERE THEY WENT FROM 2 AND 0 TO 2 AND ANOTHER 2 AND 3. IT’S BEEN BAD. IT’S BEEN HORRIBLE. THE LAST 3 WEEKS, THEY RAN INTO A BUZZ SAW IN MINNESOTA AND THEY, THEY AREN’T JUST SOUNDLY. THE OFFENSE HAS BEEN AGAINST MINNESOTA, 3 POINTS AGAINST THE BRONCOS, AND THEN 24 POINTS AGAINST IT. AND IT ALL COMES BACK TO THE QUARTERBACK AND LOOK. JAKE BROWNING, HE WAS 4 AND 3 AS A STARTER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WHEN BURROW HAD THE WRIST INJURY, HIS NUMBERS WERE GOOD. IT’S JUST, IT’S NOT THERE THIS YEAR. AND I’VE SAID THIS, THERE’S NO SHAME IN QUARTERBACK BUT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE GUYS JUST A SHORT-TERM BAND-AID, HE’S NOT A GUY THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE CENTERPIECE OF YOUR OPERATION FOR A FULL SEASON ESPECIALLY WHEN THE TEAM IS BUILT AROUND THE QUARTERBACK, THROWING THE FOOTBALL, THEY PUT ALL THE RESOURCES INTO THEIR PASSING GAME. SO WHEN YOU LOSE JOE BURROW YOU CAN’T BACKUP. BECAUSE THAT’S THE YOUR TEAM. YOU DON’T HAVE A RUNNING GAME. YOUR DEFENSE HAS BEEN DIMINISHED. BY THE RESOURCES DEVOTED TO THE PASSING GAME, YOU BETTER HAVE A BETTER OPTION AT QUARTERBACK WHEN YOU HAVE A PASS FIRST PASS CENTRIC, TEAM, AND THE STARTING QUARTERBACKS INJURY. YEAH, IT’S ROUGH. AND I THINK IT STARTED LAST WEEK THAT MONDAY NIGHT GAME, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WALKED AWAY AND JAKE BROWNING SAID, I GOT TO GIVE THE RECEIVERS MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME PLAYS BECAUSE I THINK FOR ALL OF US, WHEN WE WATCH THE BENGALS, PLAY THE BRONCOS, LIKE OUR MIND INSTANTLY WENT BACK TO LAST YEAR AND THAT THRILLER AT THE END OF THE YEAR WERE BURLS, THROWING UP BALLS AT T. HIGGINS. T HIGGINS, WALKS AWAY WITH LIKE 3 TOUCHDOWNS. UNBELIEVABLE GAME AND DENVER HAD THE SAME GAME PLAN. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS JOE BURROW, WASN’T THERE THROWING THE BALL? AND WHEN I WENT BACK LAST YESTERDAY AND I WATCHED DETROIT GAME, THE DEFENSE DIDN’T PLAY THAT BAD LIKE AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW AS MUCH SLACK AS A DEFENSE GETS AND YOU KNOW, THEY’RE NOT THAT GOOD AS A WHEN YOU GO BACK AND YOU WATCH A GAME DETROIT, HAD AN OPENING DRIVE, WHERE THEY GO DOWN AND SCORE. AND THEN THE NEXT TOUCHDOWN CAME OFF A TURNOVER FROM CINCINNATI, THEN CINCINNATI, TURNED THE BALL OVER. AGAIN, DETROIT GOT TO STOP. I MEAN, CINCINNATI GOT TO STOP. THEY, THEY STOPPED THE DETROIT LIONS OFFENSE, BUT THEN THERE WAS JUST NOTHING COMING FROM THE OFFENSIVE SIDE AND THEN THE OFFENSE SHOWED SOME LIFE RIGHT? BEFORE THE HALF, THEY GO IN AND GET A FIELD GOAL. AND HOW DO THEY OPEN A SECOND HALF WHEN THEY GET THE BALL BROWN AND THROWS AN INTERCEPTION TO ANSALON AND THEY GO AND SCORE ANOTHER TOUCHDOWN. AND THEN, AT THAT POINT, IT WAS OVER. SO AGAIN, I THINK, I THINK THE THING HERE IS, WHAT QUARTERBACK DO? YOU GET THAT CHANGES YOUR SEASON. AND MAKES YOU, UH, PLAYOFF NO 1 OUT THERE, MAYBE NOT JAMIS. WINSTON RUSSELL, WILL PLAYOFF TEAM, BUT MY WHOLE THING IS, IS, YOU’RE NOW GOING TO INTO THE CATEGORY WHERE YOU WHERE GUY STARTS TO REALIZE, IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. IT’S ACTUALLY INSANITY TO COME IN HERE AND THINK WELL, WE’RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. WE’RE GOING TO WIN KNOW. LIKE WE HAVE NO SHOT TO WIN. LIKE, AGAIN, I ALWAYS BRING THIS UP. I TALKED TO MY BROTHER THROUGH 2017 CLEVELAND BROWN SEASON, LIKE EVERY DAY YOU CAME IN THERE EACH WEEK AND YOU WERE LIKE, OH THIS GAME PLAN IS GOING TO WORK AND HE SAID IT WAS INSANITY, LIKE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO LOSE AND WE KEPT TELLING OURSELVES THAT THIS WAS GOING TO WORK. EVEN THOUGH OUR COACHING WAS BAD, OUR FRONT OFFICE WAS BAD. EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND US WAS BAD. WE THOUGHT WE CAN FIX IT AND RIGHT NOW WITH THIS TEAM NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY DOES JAMARR, CHASE HAD A BIG GAME DID A GOOD JOB. SO IT’S NOT, IT DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE AT THE QUARTERBACK POSITION WE JUST DON’T HAVE IT AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO WIN GAMES. SO I THINK THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY HAVE TO TRY TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND SEE IF THERE’S SOME MOVE TO MAKE THESE GUYS CONTINUE TO BUY IN WEEK AFTER WEEK. AND NOT ONLY BUY IN BECAUSE THEY’RE PAID. I GET IT. EVERYBODY, THEY’RE PAID THEY SHOULD GO CHECK MARK. YEP BUT LIKE SHOW UP. PUT THEIR PUNCH THEIR CARD AND THEN GO RIGHT BACK HOME AND I THINK THAT’S WHAT THE FALLING INTO. AND DEVON FOR THE FIRST TIME. I’M STARTING TO SENSE. QUESTIONS. EXTERNALLY ABOUT ZACK, TAYLOR’S JOB SECURITY. NOW THE EASY ANSWER TO THAT FOR ANYBODY WHO’S PAID ANY ATTENTION WHATSOEVER TO THE CINCINNATI BENGALS FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS AND I’VE PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT ORGANIZATION. THERE IS NO WAY THAT ZACK TAYLOR IS BEING FIRED. IF HE HAS A SINGLE PENNY LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT BECAUSE 1 OF THE FEW THINGS THAT MIKE BROWN AND COWBOYS OWNER JERRY JONES HAVE IN COMMON, IS THAT THEY ARE EXTREMELY CHEAP AND THEY REFUSE TO PAY ANYONE TO NOT WORK. ZACK TAYLOR WILL REMAIN EMPLOYED AT LEAST AS LONG AS HE STILL IS OWED ANYTHING FROM THE BENGALS. BUT THE CHATTER IS THERE, AND I THINK WONDER. AND WE DON’T KNOW WHAT IS CONTRACT, IS MAYBE THE YEARS AFTER 2025 AREN’T GUARANTEED, MARVIN? LEWIS HAD A YEAR LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT HE GOT FIRED I THOUGHT. WOW MIKE BROWN’S CHANGED, THEN I SAW. NOPE. IT WAS A TEAM OPTION FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND THEY JUST DIDN’T EXERCISE IT. SO, ZACK TAYLOR HAS CHANGED HIS TUNE IN LESS THAN A WEEK. HE WENT FROM BEING RESOLUTE TO BEING A LITTLE MORE EQUIVOCAL. HERE’S ZACK TAYLOR FROM YESTERDAY ON THE POSSIBILITY OF A QUARTERBACK CHANGE AND ALSO THE URGENCY TO GET HIS HIGH PRICE PLAYMAKERS INVOLVED IN THE OFFENSE. WE WE’LL SEE WHERE IT GOES, ALL PERSONNEL DECISIONS. UM, WE GOT EVALUATED JAKE’S, BEEN VERY ACCOUNTABLE, UH, FOR HOW THE GAME WENT FOR HIM. I’VE GOT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOW THE GAME WENT FOR ME AS WELL. AND SO, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROGRESS THINK FINDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR, OUR PLAYMAKERS, TO GET THE BALL, YOU KNOW, AND AND FINDING WAYS TO GET THEM EASY TOUCHES THAT THEY CAN LEAD TO PRODUCTIVITY IN OUR OFFENSE. WE HAVEN’T BEEN PRODUCTIVE ENOUGH. UM, I I DON’T WORRY ABOUT STATISTICS RIGHT NOW, I CARE ABOUT WINS. THAT’S THAT’S ALL I WORRY ABOUT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW THAT WE’VE GOT TO GET MORE PRODUCTIVITY AND THAT’S MORE OPPORTUNITY FROM A LOT OF OUR KEY, GUYS, ON OFFENSE, TO BE ABLE TO GET THE VOLUME INTO THEM. AND THAT’S THAT’S ME, FINDING THE THE CLEANEST WAYS TO GET THEM THE BALL SO THEY CAN IMPACT THE GAME. WELL, IF YOU CARE ABOUT WINS, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE WHILE MOST LIKELY THEY GO TO GREEN BAY ON SUNDAY AND THEN THEY GET THE SHORT WEEK SHORT, STRAW VISIT FROM THE STEELERS, THE 3 IN 1, STEEL WEEK 7, JETS BEARS, BYE. WEEK WEEK 10. THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO DO SOMETHING GOING INTO THE DENVER GAME THAT SUNDAY WHEN WE WERE IN DALLAS, 1 OF THE ITEMS I WAS EXPLORING TO POSSIBLY ADD TO FOOTBALL NIGHT IN AMERICA, WAS ABOUT THE BENCHING OF RUSSELL WILSON, THE POTENTIAL WILSON, AT A LOW BASE SALARY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. SO THAT FITS WITH THE OVERALL CHEAPNESS FRUGALITY. I’LL BE A LITTLE MORE TACTFUL, THEY’RE EXTREMELY CAREFUL WITH MONEY. BUT SOUNDS BETTER THAN CHEAP. FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS SOMETHING THE BENGALS WERE INTERESTED IN AND THROUGH AN INTERMEDIARY, I WAS TOLD AND THEY WERE GETTING READY TO PLAY THE BRONCOS ON MONDAY NIGHT. HEY, THEY THINK THEY’RE JUST GOING TO BE ABLE TO THROW IT UP TO JAMAAR CHASE AND T HIGGINS THEY’VE INVESTED ALL THAT MONEY IN THOSE 2 GUYS. JUST THROW IT UP TO THEM, JUST THROW IT UP TO THEM. AND THAT’S WHAT THEY TRY TO DO AGAINST THE BRONCOS. AND AS YOU SAID IT WORKED LAST YEAR WHEN JOE BURROW IS THE 1 IN THE PASSES, IT DIDN’T WORK AS WELL WHEN IT WAS JAKE BROWNING. SO YOU NEED SOMEBODY WHO CAN GET THESE GUYS, THE BALL AND THE SOONER THEY GET THE GUY IN THERE. THE BETTER OFF. THEY’RE GOING TO BE BECAUSE YOU NEED TIME TO BUILD CHEMISTRY. THIS ISN’T JUST LIKE A KICKER, OUR KICKERS BAD. LET’S GO GET A BETTER 1. OKAY, HEY, WE GOT A BETTER KICKER. YOU NEED TIME TO DEVELOP CHEMISTRY. YOU NEED TIME TO DEVELOP A RHYTHM. IT’S CHANGING A TIRE ON A MOVING CAR, THAT’S THE PROBLEM. SO THEIR BACKUP FACES. THEY’RE DRAGGING THEIR FEET 1 WEEK AT A TIME AS TO WHAT TO DO, WE’VE GOT UNTIL THE FROM TODAY. ARRIVES. THERE’S TOO MUCH MONEY TIED UP IN IT AND THEY’RE THEY’LL GO ELSEWHERE. FOR THEIR BAND-AID FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON, OR UNTIL JOE BURROW IS READY TO GO, IF SOMEHOW THEY’RE STILL CONTENDING, BUT IT’S JUST A MESS, DEVON. IT’S A MESS AND IT JUST SHOWS YOU HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE A GOOD BACKUP PLAN AND IT’S CRITICAL WHEN YOUR TEAM IS BUILT AROUND YOUR QUARTERBACK. THAT’S ALL THEY’VE DONE IN CINCINNATI, THEY’VE BUILT THE TEAM AROUND THE QUARTERBACK, A QUARTERBACK WHO’S HAD 3 MAJOR INJURIES IN 6 NFL SEASONS. THE TIME FOR THAT. IT’S FAIR TO LOOK AT THE BENGALS AND SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? BUILDING A TEAM AROUND A GUY WHO’S HAD 3 MAJOR INJURIES AND 6 NFL SEASONS. YOU KIND OF. GET YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE WHEN YOU ROLL THOSE DICE. THAT’S VERY TRUE. AND AND THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD THE GUY. THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD JAKE BROWNING AS BEING THAT GUY BECAUSE OF 2 YEARS AGO, WHEN HE DID GO 4 AND 3 AS A STARTER I THINK THE HARD THING IS IS I LISTEN TO ZACK TAYLOR IS I DO BELIEVE WHAT HE’S SAYING OF TRYING TO GET THESE GUYS. THE BALL IS JUST THE PROBLEM. IS, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THIS OFFENSE IS GOING TO BE BUILT ON. HOW DO YOU CREATE WAYS TO GIVE T HIGGINS AND JAMARR? CHASE THE BALL, THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THERE’S NO RUN GAME. THERE’S SO YOU COME IN AS A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR AND YOU SAY, HEY THEY’RE THEY’RE GOING TO PUT IN A BUT IT’S GOING TO BE ALL PASS PLAYS. OKAY, LET’S GO BACK AND WATCH ALL OF THEIR FILM ON HOW EXACTLY THEY GO ABOUT GETTING THE BALL TO THESE 2 GUYS. AND YOU, YOU CREATE A GAME PLAN BASED OFF THAT, WHAT PEOPLE DON’T GET IS THE THE GIFT, THE BEAUTY OF JOE BURROW IS HE COULD FIGURE OUT YOUR COVERAGE. HE WAS A GUY THAT WANTED TO PLAY CLOCK TO GO DOWN TO 3 SECONDS. THEN IN THE PLAY, THE COVERAGE YOU WERE IN, HE KNEW YOUR WEAKNESS, AND HE WAS ABLE TO PICK THOSE GUYS AND ATTACK YOUR WEAKNESS WITH 2 OF THE BETTER RECEIVERS IN THE NFL. NOT EVERYBODY’S MADE LIKE JOE BURROW. SO NOW YOU DON’T HAVE THAT. YES, YOU CAN DESIGN THE PLAYS THAT WOULD WORK, BUT WHEN THE DEFENSE IS SWITCHING, THEY’RE GOING TO DO DIFFERENT NOT HAVING BURROW BEING ABLE TO UNCOVER THAT AND GO TO THOSE GUYS THAT’S WHERE THEY’RE FALLING SHORT. AND AGAIN TO THAT CREDIT, I DON’T KNOW IF ANY OF THESE GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO COME FIX THAT AND I THINK I THINK JAMIS WINSTON MIGHT BE 1 OF THOSE GUYS, THAT MIGHT BE SECURE IN NEW YORK BECAUSE FOR JAXSON DART AND WE DON’T WANT TO LET HIM GO. WE STILL GOT ANOTHER YEAR BECAUSE OF THAT, AND WILSON OR YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN ME IF I’M THE BROWNS. WHAT DO I WANT TO GIVE UP? FLACO WITHIN THE DIVISION, YOU KNOW? WELL, AND I THINK THE BROWNS ARE SO FOCUSED ON ANALYTICS AND VALUE AND ALL THAT THEY WON’T CARE ABOUT MOVING THEM IN THE DIVISION. I THINK THE THING THAT BROWNS ULTIMATELY MAY HAVE THEIR HAND FORCED BY IS DESHAWN WATSON SHOWING UP AND SAYING I’M HEALTHY PUT ME ON THE ROSTER BECAUSE THE CHOICES WILL THEN BE PUT HIM ON THE ROSTER TO CUT HIM BECAUSE IT WOULD BEYOND CRIPPLING CAP. CHARGE NEXT YEAR, THEY’RE TRYING TO SMOOTH THIS THING OUT FOR MULTIPLE MORE SEASONS. SO IF THE QUARTERBACK POSITION SUDDENLY GETS CROWDED WITH THE ARRIVAL, THE RETURN OF THE SEAN WATSON OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE ON FROM JOE FLACO AND KEEP DILLON GABRIEL AND SHEDEUR SANDERS, I THINK BUT EITHER WAY 1 GAME AT A TIME, 1 GAME AT A TIME HERE. COME THE BENGALS. GOING TO BE A LONG DAY FOR THE BENGALS. STEELERS, COME TO TOWN, THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE LOSE 2. MORE GAMES THAT 2 AND 2. GOOD CHANCE. IT’S GOING TO BE 2 AND 5. RELIEF ARRIVES IN THE FORM OF A GAME AGAINST
Mike Florio and Devin McCourty agree the Bengals must do something about their terrible offensive performance since Joe Burrow exited the lineup. #NBCSports #NFL #ProFootballTalk
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14 comments
Like a rolling stone
As a Bengals fan, it's a good reminder to put a ceiling on hope while Mike Brown is still alive
COLIN KAEPERNICK , The Bengals will not have to lose a draft pick.Kaepernick can't be worse than Browning , Wilson, etc. It won't hurt to bring him in. Think outside the box !!??
Any team that loses their starting QB is going to struggle. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize a team for something that’s out of their control.
Cincy is going to get a great draft pick. They'll be able to get some defense on the team.
The Bengals won't fire their coach no matter how bad they end up this year, because that Burrow injury is gonna buy him another year.
Browning isn’t the problem, it’s Zac Taylor. He insists on running this spread offense that puts the o-line in bad situations. And even when Burrow played week 1 the offense had 7 yards in the second half of that game.
Joe Burrow should be voted MVP even if he doesn't play another down this season because it's starting to look like there is not a single player in the league more important to his team than him
As soon as someone says, "get Russell Wilson", I immediately know that they don't know what they are talking about.
Can we please get a full episode on YouTube instead of all these cut ups and clips?!? You’d get way more viewers that way
Russell Wilson would be good fit and Giants need a Receiver
There's no replacement for Joe and their whole offense is Joe throwing the ball. Its over this season.
Taylor was never an OC yet he calls the plays, that is the problem.
We miss you in NE McCourty. Keep the great takes coming!