Mike McDaniel Reportedly On Very Thin Ice w/ Miami Dolphins Owner Stephen Ross But Chris Grier Isn’t

Hey, welcome on in guys. Tobin here with you. Thanks for checking out the channel. You’re beautiful. I love you. And if you guys could subscribe, that’d be cool. Also, subscribe to the Tobin and Leroy Show and all your podcast platforms. And you guys can watch us live every single weekday on the WQAM YouTube page. So, check that on out as the Miami Dolphins are getting ready for the Los Angeles Chargers. We’ll have Game Day uncensored come your way on the QAM channel. got some new surprises. Even though feel bad this is coming at week five or one and four, but we got some surprises coming your way for that show. So excited about it. Um but I wanted to get to this story that I read. Um now I was reading some of the blurbs about it, but um the the latest on the dolphins comes from this story. Now, take it for what it is. It’s from a website called Sportska, but I have heard of the author Tony Pauline before. I know he’s he’s been a an NFL insider for a wee bit, and he’s got some stuff here on the Dolphins, so do with it what you will. Uh I always like to say that we we we don’t dismiss anything. We put it out there and then we kind of do with do with it what we will, right? But, uh, he has a report that basically says that McDaniel is on the ropes as far as his job is concerned. And he uh, he said, “Less than a month ago, I wrote after just one week into the season a lengthy article reporting that Mike Daniel’s tenure in Miami could be coming to a close sooner rather than later. Now, after a horrendous week five loss, sources tell me the end is in sight. After the week one disaster, the Dolphins lost the Colts. I reported that league source were telling me that owner Steven Ross would pull the trigger and fire Mike McDaniel if they were not competitive in their next six to seven games. And since that article, the Dolphins have lost three and four, winning just a single contest against the lowly Jets last Monday night. Tensions are starting to boil over after the last loss to the Panthers, a game which Dolphins offense combined for just 248 yards. McDaniel admitted during a press conference on Monday that Ross Steven Ross was quote really frustrated. We talked about that a little bit yesterday, talked about on the radio show, talked about on this channel. Um, but Pauline says, “When could he be sent packing?” The same sources that told me Mike McDaniel was on very thin ice after week one uh predict that Ross wait two or three more games before deciding on whether to pull the trigger on a head coach. Um, we’ll see. But the thing that’s interesting about this, uh, the description, I didn’t see his original report about him being on thin ice. I gotta imagine that if my if that if Steven Ross thought he was on thin ice after week one, obviously you’re not going to fire anybody after week one. You did have the the break between Monday Night Football and what happened against the Bills. And to be fair, the Dolphins had two onepossession losses, you know, and especially the Bills one. I think it was tough to blame on Mike McDaniel. His team was playing hard for him. And then you win the Jets game. Cool. you get that done. This one is is as big of an indictment not only just on the team and everything that you you just feel like it lacked discipline, imagination, adjustments, um roster building issues, too. But we all saw how Mike McDaniel looked. And while it does seem like the public message has been, hey, we want to keep this very harmonious. We want to keep this cool. Look, even Stephen Ross has got to be a guy. I was I was talking to my guy uh Vlad today and he made a very good point uh today before the show where he was like he go we were talking about the the fans, right? And like like this isn’t exactly a glamour team that’s coming in in the Chargers and it’s not a team that has like a I mean they don’t even have backing in their own city. So it’s not like you’re going to have that that travel swell that you would for like a Bills, a Jets, anything like that. Yeah, this could be like one of the most emptylooking Dolphins games in a while. And those things are hard to ignore. Like there was a lot of questions this week from the players. Uh I was reading Minka Fitzpatrick and Jaylen Phillips and all these guys saying, “Oh yeah, we’re trying to block out the noise of social media.” And you could do that all you want. Tua likes to play that card, too. And I’m not Maybe they do. Um, a lot of them lie about it, but for the ones that don’t, the one thing you can’t ignore is when you’re in your own building and you hear your own fans and how upset they are. And you are, if you’re the owner, you certainly can’t ignore that. You can’t ignore empty seats. You can’t ignore probably a third home game of planes flying around if the guys if the guys who do that want to throw another whatever cost $700 at it. And yeah, if they get embarrassed by the Chargers, who probably are better than him on paper, even with their injuries, any one of these games I feel like could be the landmine that he decides to go in another direction. I don’t know who takes over. It’s not really the point of it, right? I think when you make a move like that, people have said, “Well, who’s going to do it? Who’s who’s going to take over the gig? Anthony Weaver, should he do it? He’s It’s not like his defense has been great.” It’s not really a good reason for it. It doesn’t matter who really you throw it over because once you’re doing that, you’re not doing it to rally the troops. You’re doing it basically to say enough is enough. And you’re trying to send a message to your fan base. Now, the next thing that Pauline writes um is a thing that I think is going to happen that is really going to piss off the fan base because he writes, “Many wonder if general manager Chris Gill will also be cut loose. Sources tell me that they do not think it’s a definite that both the head coach and the general manager will be fired at the same time.” Now, not that they wouldn’t fire him, but that they wouldn’t be fired at the same time, which, yeah, I could see the idea that the Dolphins go in the Chris Greer direction in the off season, but I’ve I’ve been steadfast on this. I I still think he’s going to stick around. I think Chris Greer is really liked by the owner. He’s been with him forever, and I think Stephen Ross is the I think that Chris Greer is the ultimate survivor. I think that he could spin to Chris uh to I can’t get these guys right. I think he could spin to Steven Ross that uh that hey Steve see hey we were going to go we were moving on from Flores we were going to go to Shawn Payeyton that was the plan this guy was plan B all along baby we’re ready to move on. You know Stephen Ross is old. You know he may not want to go back into the trust tree. Who you gonna believe? Uh you know the the next Tannon bomb? Like who who the hell is that? Carl Peterson? like who are they going to be these guys that you really uh you know that you really lean on as far as being your your football sounding boards, right? So, I definitely could see the Dolphins keeping Chris Greer around even though yeah, if you’re going to do it, do it and figure whatever it is out. Find who the next whiz kid is. Like people are comparing the Jacksonville situation a lot. That was a situation where they put Tony Belli in charge of kind of the whole thing, but he hires that little whiz kid who was, you know, looking a little weird at the press conference. But to be fair, both him and the head coach both had terrible first press conferences and their team is cooking right now. So maybe there’s something to it. That being said, look, whoever the head coach is is going to be so the opposite of Mike McDaniel, it’s not even going to be funny. Now, this article gives some names and it says that sources expect the owner to target a disciplinarian type coach with experience in the league. some in the someone in the Dan Quinn mold. One name that’s been speculated is Rex Ryan, which I got to tell you right now, and I I mean this wholeheartedly to everybody listening and watching, if you knew tomorrow that their idea to replace Mike McDaniel was Rex Ryan, I would rather sign Mike McDaniel to a lifetime extension than give Rex Ryan a crack at the Dolphins job. I’m dead ass serious about that. I have zero interest in that. Okay. With him coming down here, guy hasn’t been relevant in eons. I know what his resume is with the Jets. It was it was a long time ago. His quarterback caught up in a bit of a pickle because he’s not a quarterback anymore. Um I I get that he’s going to, you know, bring the bravado and talking all the crap that he does because he’s Rex Ryan. I have zero interest in Rex Ryan. I just I don’t I don’t have a lot of interest in retreads to be honest with you. There’s not a lot of these guys that I’ve heard, you know, especially the buzzword like the John Gruden thing I think is is so stupid. I I I mean John Gruden hasn’t been a good coach in a very very long time. He’s a very good broadcaster. He’s hilarious on podcasts and he was great on Monday Night Football. Um, and you know, disgusting emails aside, that got him fired, even if they were nefariously leaked. Um, no interest in that. Obviously, no interest in Bill Bichic. He’s he’s in a complete shell of himself and and a bit of an ass clown right now. None of that stuff interests me as well. I wouldn’t mind them going in the direction of a first- time head coach again. I really wouldn’t. But, do they have to go in the realm of like a a a disciplinarian, a a screamer? I brought this up on the show today and I think the one that actually makes sense is is uh Campanelli who’s having a really good season with the Jaguars. to mention them again, but um you know, if you guys don’t remember him, he was the Dolphins linebacker coach, Jersey guy, you know, he’s got the accent and he gave this whole speech during Hard Knocks about how uh the universal lang the universal language is that was terrible. The universal language kicking someone’s ass. And I was like, “Oh,” you know, and he was, you know, lot of time at Ruters and Boston College and Michigan. And then he got the job at the Dolphins for many years and he crossed over between Flores and Mike McDaniel. He was one of kind of those holdovers. And then when Anthony Weaver took over, he already found the found a new gig. And now he’s got this opportunity with the Jaguars being their DC. I’m telling you, dude, with the press conferences, if they keep it up, how they’re turning over the football, the intensity that that guy brings, uh, he’s he feels like he’s going to be the buzz guy, like that in your face attitude, Coach Lombardi quotes, you know, things like that. He is so ripe to get this job for the Miami Dolphins, it’s not even funny. The unfortunate thing is he’s probably going to be saddled with Chris Greer as his general manager. So inevitably it’s hopeless for him. But uh that to me I I would I don’t care about the first year head coach thing. I don’t think honestly Mike McDaniel did a better job when he was more wet behind the ears with the gig. Um Brian Flores I we all think Brian Flores pretty decent coach. It’s as it goes on. I mean these guys do get into survival mode a little bit. I don’t think that uh experienced head coaches are, you know, I don’t think they’re immune to that type of stuff. So, I I don’t know. I But the Rex Ryans, the the John Grudens, the Mike McCarthy’s, I’m just like, you got to be you you got to be kidding me with how uninspired those ideas are just because they have experience. some of those experiences like literally a decade ago. Uh especially when they were like John Gruden hasn’t had a like when’s the last time John Gruden had a a 10- win season? Was it 2007? I mean, what are we talking about? Why? Because he does because he he does whiteboards on Instagram. Now, you know, I get that I’m telling you that I think the lead candidate for the Dolphins is basically off a hard, but his defense is actually really good in Jacksonville, right? like they’re off to they turning the ball over like crazy. They’re swinging games. I don’t know. And I don’t even know if that’s like a magic pixie dust for the Dolphins. But that to me would be at least like all right. He’s the you know he’s the opposite of Mike McDaniel. He’s not weird. He’s not um and he’s in your intense in your face like got a Mario Christie balness to him. Um somebody of that ilk or go and get the next guru. I’m fine with that too. But this this whole oh, you got to go get the retread thing. I I h I am I am not for that. That that that does not that does not move me in any way as far as that’s concerned because let’s be honest, guys. Like I think a lot of these co like every one of these coaches of the Dolphins has had and failed. Even Adam Gates who I thought was a huge bum. Like you could see the kernels of like where they were smart football people. Uh maybe not Joe Filin. Um it’s just a matter of managing chaos, which the Dolphins always inevitably spin into. They’re going to be in that anyway, even if you bring in an experienced person in Chris Greer is here. And you know, you miss out on Shawn Peyton, you miss out on Jim Harbaugh. Like there’s unless Andy Reid is like tired of freezing his ass off in Kansas City and with the Dol would you trade a first round pick for Andy Reid to come run the Dolphins in his in his fat cat years? I don’t know. Um, but from my standpoint, Rex Ryan, but you know, it does feel like if the Dolphins get kicked in the teeth and get embarrassed, yeah, any one of these games could be the end for Mike McDaniel. Um, and that’s just simply because he just it it just feels like at some point as an owner, you have to make some kind of a statement to your fans. I think the fans are pissed off. Steven Ross should have at least waited 48 hours as the season ended last year before putting out a statement. He should have listened to that Chris Greer, Mike McDaniel, horse bleed press conference after the season ended. And I told and I said this then and I mean it now. I came away from that saying these guys just don’t have the answers. They don’t know how to fix the situation. And I never feel that with Chris Gary. He says ridiculous things all the time. But I get it. Stephen Ross has a a big sense of loyalty. Um, and he always he never cleans house. It’s always this is the other thing. It’s always done in parts. Like somebody’s always a hold over whether it even be like a coordinator over to a new head coach. Like there’s always always always a holdover. So, whatever path it’s going to be, it’s probably just going to be fire McDaniel, maybe bring in a new quarterback and and start fresh there, and then Chris Greer will be here to inevitably probably set dynamite to, you know, throw dynamite at the whole thing. But I don’t think he’s going anywhere. The coach, yeah, the GM somehow he’s gonna he’s gonna he’s gonna hold a board. He’s going to he’s going to cling on to this thing and uh and stick around and and he’ll convince Steven Ross, no, I got the next hot candidate to do this. He’s the anti- Mike McDaniel. And Stephen Ross will be sold on it. And as my uh my boy Robbie the degenerate says, the cycle of doom will likely

Tobin discusses a report that paints a bleak picture for Mike McDaniel’s future with the Dolphins but Stephen Ross reportedly doesn’t want to let go of Chris Grier.
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21 comments

  1. Grier has to go first hes been here over a decade hasnt built a winning roster hes spent over 900 million dollars in just free agent acquisitions hes inept and im done supporting this franchise until grier is gone!!!

  3. If it’s a question of who should go first, it should 100% be Chris Grier. He’s had enough length on his leash more so than Mike or Tua. Not saying they both shouldn’t be evaluated as well but for me it’s gotta be Grier. If they bench Tua and or fire McDaniel before that then there’s no hope for this franchise anytime soon.

  7. Mike McDaniel has done a better job trying to make something out of the crap Grier keeps dealing him than Grier has done at his job, by far. Tua is the perfect example. MM stunted Tua's growth by trying to make him perfect by pigeonholing him into a tailor made, custom fit, boutique offense because he has never been supplied the strength in the trenches to run a full scale NFL offense. Grier, for his part, is an abject failure building a legitimate O line. He really doesn't understand the game well enough to ever be a competent assessor of talent and that's why he so often misses so badly in the draft too often defaulting to choose athletes over football players, speed over savvy and toughness and black over white. If Grier isn't following an NFL script to keep the Dolphins insignificant, he is the worst GM in history because the things his team has always lacked is a core, an identity, a framework to build around, connectivity between good football players who learn to know what the other will do to maximize their effectiveness so that 1+1= more than two. They can be 4 or 5. He spends idiotically, always dragging the cap along with dead money going to shot players with big names. At the same time he lowballs Homers who have put in the work, done things the right way and exceeded expectations and allows them to walk, usually run, really, seeking some dignity and a sense of appreciation from a team who values them as players and as men. Add all this up and what you have as your Manager non-General is the quintessentially defined "team killer. He made sure to break up the dozen or so players that energized one another and the entire team and has followed that trend when smaller packs begin to grow. He destroys loyalty by always choosing other team's free agents over his own and hands big checks to overrated, non-core primadonnas who come in, go through the motions and bail out, leaving too little cap space to pay guys bleeding aqua and orange, who care and want THIS FRANCHISE to reach greatness. The players have to realize that he purposely hamstring the 9ffensive line every year. They have to roll their eyes with every run-through player that gets passed up for a run-around speedster like taking Charles Harris over TJ Watt or Channing Tindall over LB Leo Chenal or even the 6'9, 375 lb RT Daniel Faalele, who was moved to guard and was named as a Pro-Bowl alternate in his second season. Grier selected Tua and has done everything possible since to destroy him mentally, physically and psychologically but paying handsomely to keep that broken Quarterback as the man running the offense. If what McWimp and Chuckles knew this was their plan, why didn't he draft Herbert? Another huge question pointing directly at the incompetence of our super low IQ GM, Grier. Grier is a football moron and McD is an NFL, Capri pants wearing, vagina. I'm so completely disgusted by this ongoing WWE performance going on in Miami and with the entire casino-gambling run NFL. They will be exposed sooner than they think.

  9. So you rather Keep McDaniels than give Rex Ryan a chance??? Tobin thats a insane take. I disagree. Rex Ryan is the exact type of coach this team needs. The Dolphins are a clown show and Ryan would put a end to that

  18. Im sorry but Rex would be way better then Campineli. The Jets have always been the joke of the league. And Rex got them to the AFC championship game! REX can coach Defense. Those great raven teams. Guess I'm weird but Rex sounds intriguing to me.

  20. @Tobin, Brother our luck going with first time head coaches has gone beyond just bad luck. I don’t have any name for you but I wouldn’t be against the idea of bringing in a college head coach, someone who’s got the experience and some success at running a team already.

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