MLB NOW | Brian Kenny [BREAKING NEWS] San Diego Padres manager Mike Shildt to retire

Yeah, we got some breaking news as we’re here live on MLB now. Here’s the Padres’s thanking Mike Schill. Thank you for many contributions to Padres’s organization, San Diego community. Mike, wish you very the very best in your retirement. And again, Schult saying that he’s retired from the Padres’s, which is different, Steve, cuz the first thing I ask, how old is Mike Schult? He’s 57. Take it easy on the easy. 57, you’re a spring chicken. It is surprising to me. I didn’t know there was friction. Full disclosure, by the way, Jake Peavey is a special assistant to Padres’s group. So, so you know that. But we’ll ask Jake. But first, your thought general thoughts on this happening. Yeah, surprised by it because what I saw him do is take a team that felt like they were sort of afloat over the last two years and and galvanize them and bring them together. They played some really good baseball and look, they had some injuries down the stretch. Obviously, the loss to Jason Adam and and Lauriano in the postseason hurt them a little bit, but I thought he did a really nice job. A lot of big personalities there. They didn’t hit a lot of home runs that they still won games. And so, I thought he did an excellent job. Now, remember, he was in St. Louis previously, and one of the the word on the street then was that there was a little bit of a clash with the analytics with the front office and everything else. So, my initial thought went to I’m shocked by this, but I wonder does this mean that there was something that wasn’t working relationally in between the front office and himself. Okay. And Jake, a former outstanding pitcher with the Padres’s. Now, you’re still with the Padres’s, but what can you tell us? Well, I’ll tell you, he did a fabulous job during his time there. He got really close with Peter Sidler as a special assistant and really understood the Padres’s of who they were and what they were about, what they needed. He brought that to San Diego and again delivered winning as he did in St. Louis. I I I do think Joe Madden is on to to something when he talks about how R&D and new school analytics match up with such an old school fundamentally based guy. It makes for tough conversations at times for you to jive and and I I I know that there was probably some of that going on. um he didn’t seem to be like in his actual managing he didn’t seem like he’s an incredible he’s an incredible manager and and for that baseball ops staff they give the manager free reign and Schulty’s making the lineup and making the moves and you just heard Joe Madden he makes incredible game management moves in that and and from what I know and what I did see I thought he did a fabulous job and had this team poised and ready to win. he will find himself on his feet and get it even another opportunity. There are I live this right. So I the the grind between the manager and the front office. I had Bobby Valentine and we we had our clashes over the years and we won a lot of games together but we also clashed a lot. And when you keep going back and forth and and picking battles and fights throughout it can wear you down and at some point it wears down the relationship to where you’re like how many times do we have to go through this again? And so, you know, if there is that sort of debate going on, at some point it’s got to be, look, this is kind of the way we’re doing it. I know you want to fight it and you’ll accept it for a long period of time as long as you’re winning, but you got to think, are we going to continue to win if we keep having these clashes? Skip Schumacher said the biggest thing that they’ve got going in Texas is there’s cohesiveness from the top all the way through the players on the field. Brian Sabian and Bruce Bochi punch through up there. Kevin Towers and Bruce Bochi. When I think about my time in Chicago when Azie Gillian and Kenny couldn’t be in the same room, there was it was Yeah. Bobby Cox, John Sherholst, that link there. Joe Tory, Brian Cashman, that link there. And and I will tell you, it takes a chunk of flesh out of you every time you go through those battles to where it really ultimately starts to filter down. By the way, there are eight openings still out there. Don Kelly was was help was kept on by Pittsburgh. Skip Shoemarker takes over in Texas. But that’s a lot of openings. But you got it. It’s a more complicated process. Even bring about Bobby Valentine. There’s also a lot of combustible types. Right. Right. Guys who are also very bright who don’t like to hear other other voices. I should point out that Dave Roberts and Pat Murphy, both interim managers in San Diego. San Diego Mark Catse was also there. They’ve been looking and trying to get this seat right for many years. Uh meantime, I didn’t know this until about 30 seconds ago, 40 seconds ago. This from the Padres’s. Kevin AC saying Mike Schults as Padres’s manager. Now again, I’m asking my producers, is he retiring or retiring from the Padres’s? It appears from the wording he’s retiring from the Padres’s. I’m puzzled by that. I thought Schult did an excellent job last two years in San Diego. Your thoughts on this? Yeah, Mike always does a good job. I worked against him when he was with St. Lewis and um the best way I could describe it is when you work against a manager like Mike, a guy with a lot of experience, it really shows. You could tell he spent a lot of time in the minor leagues. What do I mean by that? Uh just the way he handled handled the day, his ability to stay in front of things. He was always in front of things. Great with the bullpen. Uh the way uh his lineup um went back and forth, all these little different nuances. I thought he did great. Plus, you can never tell if they’re up or down, if he was up or down in the dugout. the guy really kept kind of like a a real stonefaced demeanor which I love. I I really think that’s a better way to be. So from a lot of he’s had a lot of experience and was obvious if you manage against him you just can’t get ahead of him. You know also Joe just to get in the weeds a little bit again the Padres’s had their malaise season right they were loaded up with sodto Bob Melvin was their manager highly regarded and they were they just underperformed. Schult showed up immediate accountability a seriousness in the actions of the players. That’s why like he seemed to write the ship here. See the back-to-back years 93 and 90 wins. You look you you’ve dealt with many front offices and ownership groups, everything else. How complicated is it in this day and age? Very complicated. And again to to Mike came up with the Cardinals and the Cardinals are as old school as they can be. I know they’re trying to uh move things forward in a sense. I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but there was a cardinal way of doing things and they played they played to a a high standard regarding the fundamentals of the game. how they played the game, their base running as an example, defense always being in the right place, their pitchers, everything about the way they play the game does had always ri. And that’s where Mike comes from. I would I don’t know this, but I would say maybe um uh some pressure to do things a little bit differently possibly. Um that’s the way the world is working right now. And a guy like Schulty um being able to use his own experience, his own intuition, those kind of things may have not been valued as much as as he would like them to be valued possibly. That that would be my first take on it. All right. Yeah. Again, we’re just reacting to it. News just coming in and again, Mike Schil out as manager, retiring as Padres’s manager. All right. We were just talking about this, Joe. Uh, a little managerial check time. John Schneider making the call for Toronto last night. Where are you on Kevin Gosman? He’s in the sixth. He gets the first two outs. Home run to Cal Raleigh. Walks Julio Rodriguez. He’s at 76 pitches. John Schneider went out and got him. What do you think? Well, first of all, Gosman’s my guy. I mean, that’s that’s it. So there’s a different uh level for him, for me from the dugout regarding what I’m going to put up with. So first of all, he’s he’s the number one. He’s the ace. He’s the guy. So I’d have been more patient, I believe. Uh the other thing is wasn’t an elimination game. This is game one now. You want to win every game. I get that. But there’s a little room for latitude right here, especially with him pitching. So from what I’m seeing, I mean, it almost looks like this was pre-planned in a sense. If we got to this point, this number of pitches, we we got a lead. We’re right there. maybe it might be the right time based on matchups how to move this thing uh further along and that that’s what I think happened but for me a guy like Gossman non-elimination game I would have been more patient. Okay I we got to jump we have all this breaking news but I want to ask you about Albert Puhol interviewing as Angels manager obviously you’re an Angels manager your general thoughts on a great player this is an all-time great player becoming a manager in the modern game. Well the the thing I liked is that he went and managed in winter ball. think a guy like him needs to get his feet wet with a little bit doing that. Uh the modern game, okay, Albert again is another product of St. Louis and I’m telling you, man, these guys are rooted in pure they’re fundamentalist when it comes to the game of baseball. I had a lot of great uh conversations with him when I first got to the Angels and the guy really obviously knows the game. Um I think he would be stern in a sense in a good way. I think he’d be very demanding, which we just talked about with Chilty. Uh, regarding the modern game, him taking advice from analytical departments and stuff. I think Albert’s smart enough to know that he’d have to do that. But overall, man, I just I love the idea that he went and managed. That’s the part uh I think’s been missing where guys don’t even get a taste of it. Walk into a big league dugout and expect to get things right. It’s a very difficult thought. I would if he hadn’t been here at MLB Network and I had had a number of baseball conversations, if I hadn’t met him, I would think great player, manager, that won’t work. But he thinks at a very deep level. Hey Joe, we got about 30 seconds here. I want to get this in. Cubs and Brewers game five. It’s opener versus opener. But here’s the be in my bonnet. A lot of teams open with a guy from the fifth and sixth inning or some rookie or some guy. Trevor McIll, a real guy, opened up from Milwaukee. I love it. If you’re going to open, who would you open with? Would you open with an eighth or ninth inning guy? Would you move backwards? I would just open up with what I consider the best matchup and a guy that I think could handle it. I mean, a lot of this has got to do with makeup. Is he going to be ready for that particular moment? Do I like the matchups in this inning? Of course, you like Miguel matched up against anybody, but more than picking a guy from the middle of game versus the end of the game. To me, it has to be a guy that I believe can handle this that’s going to get me through that first inning. Well, your eighth inning guy is your eighth inning guy should be able to like handle whatever, right? That’s your leverage guy. But but it’s just preparation how he gets there. When you talk to these guys conversationally, you’re going to know what some guys that might be impacted, other guys will not. That would be a big part of it for me. Yeah. Your eighth inning guy is your animal. You know what I mean? Most of the time he tough outs, right? He’s fired up just walking in the club. That’s what I’m talking about. Like use a real guy. Everyone’s like, “Oh, we’re using an opener.” And it’s like some other guy. Like, no, not a regular guy. Get a real guy in there. I like that. Yeah. Absolutely. No, the Andil is that guy. No question. All right, Joe. I’m sorry rushing you here, but uh I know that’s okay, brother. We have breaking news. I wanted your take on that. Interesting stuff. Yeah, I’ll give Shely a yell. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Thank you, Joe. Great having you on here. Joe M get here every week. We got

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