But I was told that Steve is vastly overrated and sucks as a GM actually and should be fired and replaced with “anyone else”
Lidstrom is their scout over there, not hard to imagine he knows what he’s doing
I also feel that now that we have started to actually play and develop numerous homegrown young players during the Yzerman’s tenure into first/second line and first/second pairings players and with extremely lucrative extensions like Seider and Raymond that now Detroit will become a top destination for young inexperienced skilled overlooked talent around the league looking for playing time and an opportunity to shine; from not only a players perspective, but from agents perspective too.
So instead of acquiring players like older, mediocre/replacement level, slow, unathaletic veterans when can begin to acquire players from other talent laden organizations that are in contending mode to pluck some of their minor league players that are ready for the NHL, but don’t have an open available roster spot or won’t get any playing time on deep experienced veteran heavy contenders.
This is why I was a little surprised they went Bear instead of Eklund this last draft. Though it gives me comfort that they were highly confident in Bear over Eklund
Håkan has been doing his thing for about 30 years now, but I’m glad that somebody finally noticed.
Our former Swedish players of Lidstrom, Kronwall and Zetterberg help as well.
I believe Lidstrom was eyeing ASP; Zetterberg Genborg. I could be wrong on that.
Who the fool is Eddie genborg
This list by itself doesn’t illuminate much without other team comparisons. The observation may be valid but it’s impossible to be certain without a list of SHL prospects from every other team.
Nick Lidstrom and Niklas Kronwall know a thing or two about hockey in Sweden.
I had enough of the swedish style of play. Too many passes not enough shooting.
It’s essentially the #3 league in the world after the NHL and KHL. It’s not a secret to NHL scouts. If people would quit being so damn short-sighted then they’d realize that Yzerman knows exactly what he is doing and that he is sticking to a long-term plan. People would rather have a first round playoff exit this year than a real shot at competing in a couple of years.
Lidstrom and Kronwell
If only he could figure out NHL free agents…
Like they have Lidstrom and Andersson and all those Swedish masterminds, but I bet the really valuable thing is how entrenched they are in Sweden’s hockey scene. When you draft from Sweden over and over like that, you build up a really strong network of coaches and executives and scouts you can talk to, so you get information other teams don’t get.
I’m sure it’s also helpful that Detroit really embraces the SHL, so Swedish coaches/players/teams feel respected. Detroit isn’t just going to take their players away and stash them somewhere else.
Is this guy been living under a rock??? lol
We got a guy named Hakan
I think the SHL isn’t too far off of the AHL for being the best development league in the world. The ice is bigger but your training, playing style, structure, etc prepares you for the NHL really well.
I also think we throw a ton of post draft development into our prospects that maybe doesn’t get reported or seen. I read that we had Zetterberg working extensively with Marco Kasper one summer that seems like a small thing but adds up in a big way when you have guys who are out in Sweden that know the Red Wing model already.
**”If you look here, ‘Stevie,’ Draper, Cleary, Maltby, ‘Kronner,’ it’s all the guys I played with. We have a lot of prospects in Sweden. If you look at Kasper and Seider, they were in the town I live in. I spent a lot of time with Kasper before he came over here. I do a lot, but I don’t have to do reports. I enjoy watching guys. Draper might text me, ‘Hey, can you check this guy out?’ I can see it with an open mind and speak to him afterwards.”**
TL;DR I don’t think every organization has the built in continuity and reach that we do, hence the success in development and scouting.
Håkan Andersson might actually draft the Red Wings out of mediocrity by himself.
ASB and MBN have only played 2 NHL games, Soderblom can’t stay up on a regular basis, and the last 2 haven’t made it over here yet. Let’s slow our roll here
It really makes you wonder why the team passed on Victor Eklund. I have watched several prospect pool reviews that tout him super highly and elevate the grade for the Islanders entire prospect pool just because of his presence.
I am actually very happy with the Bear pick even though he doesn’t seem to get the same level of hype, I suspect he would have been a top 10 pick if not for his injury, and with how good the Red Wings SHL scouting has been I feel like the team had to know a lot about Eklund before they passed on him.
Two swedes and former Skellefteå AIK players I wanna see in Red Wings organisation are D-man Elias Salomonsson (Winnipeg) and LW Linus Karlsson (Vancouver).
Of course it would be nice with Adam Larsson too.
I mean the ones that are good, or potentially gold, are first round picks that would have been taken first round still had we not picked them.
Yzerman knows that the Wings best scout over the last 30 years is based in Sweden.
Does Steve know something about the SHL that other GMs don’t?
Not necessarily, but Håkan Andersson certainly does. And with our huge cadre of Swedish alumni, we’ve got a powerhouse of a Swedish scouting department at this point. These guys love hockey, and watch hockey, and they love the organization they played for. Shit, I remember seeing a video of Kronwall coaching up Swedish D-men for the Wings a couple of years ago.
We don’t have a lock on Sweden, by any means, but it’s one of the areas we can mine for talent better than most other teams, so it’s an advantage for us.
Very good? The Wings haven’t done shit!
i believe in Stevie and our brain trust. The game is obviously going to be different from when they played but they know talent and they know Sweden lol
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The thing he knows is Håkan Andersson
Who could have possibly imagined that the Detroit Red Wings would find talent in Sweden?
Bro stop leaking our secrets
The wings have always been very successful at picking sweeds. Jim Nill was elite at European scouting when he was with the wings.
Sweeds traditionally play a wings style game too. 200’ game and not overly physical but can be when needed.
It probably helps that Stevie has the Perfect Human over there doing scouting.
Also Moritz Seider
https://i.redd.it/99wvedc23wuf1.gif
But I was told that Steve is vastly overrated and sucks as a GM actually and should be fired and replaced with “anyone else”
Lidstrom is their scout over there, not hard to imagine he knows what he’s doing
I also feel that now that we have started to actually play and develop numerous homegrown young players during the Yzerman’s tenure into first/second line and first/second pairings players and with extremely lucrative extensions like Seider and Raymond that now Detroit will become a top destination for young inexperienced skilled overlooked talent around the league looking for playing time and an opportunity to shine; from not only a players perspective, but from agents perspective too.
So instead of acquiring players like older, mediocre/replacement level, slow, unathaletic veterans when can begin to acquire players from other talent laden organizations that are in contending mode to pluck some of their minor league players that are ready for the NHL, but don’t have an open available roster spot or won’t get any playing time on deep experienced veteran heavy contenders.
This is why I was a little surprised they went Bear instead of Eklund this last draft. Though it gives me comfort that they were highly confident in Bear over Eklund
Håkan has been doing his thing for about 30 years now, but I’m glad that somebody finally noticed.
Our former Swedish players of Lidstrom, Kronwall and Zetterberg help as well.
I believe Lidstrom was eyeing ASP; Zetterberg Genborg. I could be wrong on that.
Who the fool is Eddie genborg
This list by itself doesn’t illuminate much without other team comparisons. The observation may be valid but it’s impossible to be certain without a list of SHL prospects from every other team.
Nick Lidstrom and Niklas Kronwall know a thing or two about hockey in Sweden.
I had enough of the swedish style of play. Too many passes not enough shooting.
It’s essentially the #3 league in the world after the NHL and KHL. It’s not a secret to NHL scouts. If people would quit being so damn short-sighted then they’d realize that Yzerman knows exactly what he is doing and that he is sticking to a long-term plan. People would rather have a first round playoff exit this year than a real shot at competing in a couple of years.
Lidstrom and Kronwell
If only he could figure out NHL free agents…
Like they have Lidstrom and Andersson and all those Swedish masterminds, but I bet the really valuable thing is how entrenched they are in Sweden’s hockey scene. When you draft from Sweden over and over like that, you build up a really strong network of coaches and executives and scouts you can talk to, so you get information other teams don’t get.
I’m sure it’s also helpful that Detroit really embraces the SHL, so Swedish coaches/players/teams feel respected. Detroit isn’t just going to take their players away and stash them somewhere else.
Is this guy been living under a rock??? lol
We got a guy named Hakan
I think the SHL isn’t too far off of the AHL for being the best development league in the world. The ice is bigger but your training, playing style, structure, etc prepares you for the NHL really well.
I also think we throw a ton of post draft development into our prospects that maybe doesn’t get reported or seen. I read that we had Zetterberg working extensively with Marco Kasper one summer that seems like a small thing but adds up in a big way when you have guys who are out in Sweden that know the Red Wing model already.
Edit: found the Zetterberg Kasper training reference [below:](https://www.nhl.com/news/sitting-down-with-henrik-zetterberg)
**”If you look here, ‘Stevie,’ Draper, Cleary, Maltby, ‘Kronner,’ it’s all the guys I played with. We have a lot of prospects in Sweden. If you look at Kasper and Seider, they were in the town I live in. I spent a lot of time with Kasper before he came over here. I do a lot, but I don’t have to do reports. I enjoy watching guys. Draper might text me, ‘Hey, can you check this guy out?’ I can see it with an open mind and speak to him afterwards.”**
TL;DR I don’t think every organization has the built in continuity and reach that we do, hence the success in development and scouting.
Håkan Andersson might actually draft the Red Wings out of mediocrity by himself.
ASB and MBN have only played 2 NHL games, Soderblom can’t stay up on a regular basis, and the last 2 haven’t made it over here yet. Let’s slow our roll here
It really makes you wonder why the team passed on Victor Eklund. I have watched several prospect pool reviews that tout him super highly and elevate the grade for the Islanders entire prospect pool just because of his presence.
I am actually very happy with the Bear pick even though he doesn’t seem to get the same level of hype, I suspect he would have been a top 10 pick if not for his injury, and with how good the Red Wings SHL scouting has been I feel like the team had to know a lot about Eklund before they passed on him.
Two swedes and former Skellefteå AIK players I wanna see in Red Wings organisation are D-man Elias Salomonsson (Winnipeg) and LW Linus Karlsson (Vancouver).
Of course it would be nice with Adam Larsson too.
I mean the ones that are good, or potentially gold, are first round picks that would have been taken first round still had we not picked them.
Yzerman knows that the Wings best scout over the last 30 years is based in Sweden.
Does Steve know something about the SHL that other GMs don’t?
Not necessarily, but Håkan Andersson certainly does. And with our huge cadre of Swedish alumni, we’ve got a powerhouse of a Swedish scouting department at this point. These guys love hockey, and watch hockey, and they love the organization they played for. Shit, I remember seeing a video of Kronwall coaching up Swedish D-men for the Wings a couple of years ago.
We don’t have a lock on Sweden, by any means, but it’s one of the areas we can mine for talent better than most other teams, so it’s an advantage for us.
Very good? The Wings haven’t done shit!
i believe in Stevie and our brain trust. The game is obviously going to be different from when they played but they know talent and they know Sweden lol