[Sanders] Preller highlighted Mason Miller and Adrián Morejón as bullpen strengths. Miller posted a 0.77 ERA with 45 K in 23⅓ IP and could replace Suarez as closer if he opts out. Morejón impressed with command and versatility. Both are being discussed as potential starting options for next season.
If Niebla and co think they are capable of being starters then I’m all for it. It’s a hell of a lot cheaper to rebuild the bullpen than it is to rebuild a starting rotation
My dream scenario is one can convert to a starter and one becomes closer. I will take both as starters, but then we have a vacancy at closer. They would need to hope someone like Adam gets healthy and can do it. I don’t see Estrada having the stones for it after his second half collapse, and none of the up and coming guys are ready to be a lock down closer for a contender.
I like Morejon as a set up man/high leverage inning eater. He has the mental strength to not be phased coming a close game, late, with runners on. Doesn’t get phased by hits or walks either. If he can go a full 6, that’s fine too but I think Morejon is perfect where he’s been this past year
I’d prefer if we kept them in the BP and invested in new SPs. Our biggest strength is the BP and I’d rather keep it reliable
Miller especially bc his whole thing is throwing unhittable balls at 104, you can’t do that so much as a SP, so why mess him up?
If someone has .077 era don’t change anything xD
I’ve washed Morejon as a starter since they’ve signed him as a teen.
Only way to get a cheap enough starter
please no mason miller is gonna fuck his arm up as a starter
Miller is a league elite closer and just getting started w 4 more years of control. I gotta think that he and his agent will be reluctant to put rotation mileage on that arm with the way he pitches without some type of $$ incentive / security. For example, 60M or whatever that buys two extra years giving the Padres 6 years of control.
Man I wish we didn’t effectively trade Major and Minor league 4-5 starting pitchers this trade deadline. At least one of Bergert, Kolek, Nett, or Baez sounds great right now
Miller, Morejon, Estrada, Adam and Morgan is a helluva bullpen.
As a Braves fan that loves the padres, converting people from the bullpen to starters almost always results in arm fatigue later in the season and an injury. The moment they run into issues they dial up the gas and spin rate and hurt themselves.
>if he opts out
He will opt out. He’s leaving millions of dollars on the table if he doesn’t lol.
Morejon seems like the clear call to me. Has five pitches, and seemed to handle the heavy workload Shildt gave him well. He did have a rough September but with a full offseason to build up, he should be fine. Plus, he’d probably welcome the opportunity going into his contract year.
I think for them it’s all about health. Morejon started getting REALLY good once he became a relief pitcher.
NOT Morejon, dude has always struggled health wise being a starter. Mason used to be a starter in the Oakland systen before the changed him to a reliever
I wouldn’t try to convert him because losing him would be catastrophic given what we gave up. We need 4 years of dominant production for the price to have been worth it.
Some people will say it’s why we should try him as a starter. They see Crochet and think we can do that. They don’t see that Crochet threw 5 pitches. He has a 4 seam, cutter, sweeper, sinker, and changeup (granted only 4% here).
Miller is essentially a 2 pitch guy. 4 seam and slider. 52% and 46% respectively. He threw a changeup 2% of the time. That’s a big issue when trying to navigate a lineup and he won’t be throwing 104 over the course of the game. This is basically Ceases profile.
Morejon has a bit more of a pitching repertoire, but he’s also mainly a 2 pitch guy with Sinker and Slider being 87% of his pitches. Change, cutter, 4 seam and knuckle make up the rest. His arm troubles seem like it wouldn’t be beneficial to him right before he hits free agency. Of course this could be a non issue if they extend him and give him peace of mind to try this conversion. That being said, he’s our only left handed pitcher in the pen that’s high leverage and one of the best in the league. We have no left handed pitching prospects to replace him like we do Suarez (BRod, Morgan, etc)
I think the likely conversions we see are Morgan and Reynolds. Both have 4 pitch mixes. Morgan in particular I would love to see because of how well his 2 seamer developed over the course of the season. Reynolds I think has the body and stamina to be a work horse. He does need to show some improved command if he wants to be successful.
the bp will be just fine with Morejon, Adam, and Morgan
Once Miller started throwing that slider I knew it was over for hitters. The turning point was Gurriel’s HR. Millers control is unbelievable.
Morejon has earned his way into the rotation. Looks like Skubal a little bit.
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If Niebla and co think they are capable of being starters then I’m all for it. It’s a hell of a lot cheaper to rebuild the bullpen than it is to rebuild a starting rotation
My dream scenario is one can convert to a starter and one becomes closer. I will take both as starters, but then we have a vacancy at closer. They would need to hope someone like Adam gets healthy and can do it. I don’t see Estrada having the stones for it after his second half collapse, and none of the up and coming guys are ready to be a lock down closer for a contender.
I like Morejon as a set up man/high leverage inning eater. He has the mental strength to not be phased coming a close game, late, with runners on. Doesn’t get phased by hits or walks either. If he can go a full 6, that’s fine too but I think Morejon is perfect where he’s been this past year
I’d prefer if we kept them in the BP and invested in new SPs. Our biggest strength is the BP and I’d rather keep it reliable
Miller especially bc his whole thing is throwing unhittable balls at 104, you can’t do that so much as a SP, so why mess him up?
If someone has .077 era don’t change anything xD
I’ve washed Morejon as a starter since they’ve signed him as a teen.
Only way to get a cheap enough starter
please no mason miller is gonna fuck his arm up as a starter
Miller is a league elite closer and just getting started w 4 more years of control. I gotta think that he and his agent will be reluctant to put rotation mileage on that arm with the way he pitches without some type of $$ incentive / security. For example, 60M or whatever that buys two extra years giving the Padres 6 years of control.
Man I wish we didn’t effectively trade Major and Minor league 4-5 starting pitchers this trade deadline. At least one of Bergert, Kolek, Nett, or Baez sounds great right now
Miller, Morejon, Estrada, Adam and Morgan is a helluva bullpen.
As a Braves fan that loves the padres, converting people from the bullpen to starters almost always results in arm fatigue later in the season and an injury. The moment they run into issues they dial up the gas and spin rate and hurt themselves.
>if he opts out
He will opt out. He’s leaving millions of dollars on the table if he doesn’t lol.
Morejon seems like the clear call to me. Has five pitches, and seemed to handle the heavy workload Shildt gave him well. He did have a rough September but with a full offseason to build up, he should be fine. Plus, he’d probably welcome the opportunity going into his contract year.
I think for them it’s all about health. Morejon started getting REALLY good once he became a relief pitcher.
NOT Morejon, dude has always struggled health wise being a starter. Mason used to be a starter in the Oakland systen before the changed him to a reliever
I wouldn’t try to convert him because losing him would be catastrophic given what we gave up. We need 4 years of dominant production for the price to have been worth it.
Some people will say it’s why we should try him as a starter. They see Crochet and think we can do that. They don’t see that Crochet threw 5 pitches. He has a 4 seam, cutter, sweeper, sinker, and changeup (granted only 4% here).
Miller is essentially a 2 pitch guy. 4 seam and slider. 52% and 46% respectively. He threw a changeup 2% of the time. That’s a big issue when trying to navigate a lineup and he won’t be throwing 104 over the course of the game. This is basically Ceases profile.
Morejon has a bit more of a pitching repertoire, but he’s also mainly a 2 pitch guy with Sinker and Slider being 87% of his pitches. Change, cutter, 4 seam and knuckle make up the rest. His arm troubles seem like it wouldn’t be beneficial to him right before he hits free agency. Of course this could be a non issue if they extend him and give him peace of mind to try this conversion. That being said, he’s our only left handed pitcher in the pen that’s high leverage and one of the best in the league. We have no left handed pitching prospects to replace him like we do Suarez (BRod, Morgan, etc)
I think the likely conversions we see are Morgan and Reynolds. Both have 4 pitch mixes. Morgan in particular I would love to see because of how well his 2 seamer developed over the course of the season. Reynolds I think has the body and stamina to be a work horse. He does need to show some improved command if he wants to be successful.
the bp will be just fine with Morejon, Adam, and Morgan
Once Miller started throwing that slider I knew it was over for hitters. The turning point was Gurriel’s HR. Millers control is unbelievable.
Morejon has earned his way into the rotation. Looks like Skubal a little bit.