BREAKING: Brooklyn Nets AXE Dariq Whitehead and Drew Timme | Did Sean Marks make the right decision?

BREAKING: Brooklyn Nets AXE Dariq Whitehead and Drew Timme | Did Sean Marks make the right decision?

Coming up, the Nets cut Dar to Reek Whitehead and Drew Timmy. What does the move say about Shawn Mark’s drafting and who gets the final roster spot? I’ll answer those questions right now. You are Locked on Nets, your daily Brooklyn Nets podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome in to the Locked On Nets podcast right here on the Lockdown Podcast Network. It’s your team, the Brooklyn Nets, every single day. I’m Eric Slater, Brooklyn Nets beat reporter for clutchpoints.com. Thank you for making me your first listen of the day. The show is 100% free on all those great platforms. Today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code locked on NBA for $20 off your first purchase. And on today’s show, I’m going to be joined by Lucas Kaplan to react to Brooklyn cutting Dariq Whitehead and Drew Timmy. We’ll discuss whether we feel the Nets made the correct decision and what this could signal about their roster plans entering the regular season. Joining the pod now, we got Lucas Kaplan of Nets Daily. And Lucas, we got Net’s roster news yesterday. It came in that Brooklyn waved Dariq Whitehead and Drew Timmy. So, we’re going to talk about both those guys. We’ll talk about Shawn Marks. We’ll talk about who is in contention for this final roster spot. But first, focusing on these guys who were cut and Dariq Whitehead being the bigger story of the two, a guy who was a first round pick by the Nets just two years ago. And, you know, it was, if you would have told me in, you know, July or August that the Nets were going to cut Dariq Whitehead, I wouldn’t have been shocked, but I would have been pretty surprised. But since we’ve got to training camp, there really have been, you know, of these guys who are on the roster b roster bubble. There have been things we’ve heard, praise given to some other guys, and it was really all quiet on the Dariq Whitehead front, which obviously wasn’t a positive sign coming off the injuries and the struggles that he’s had. And then it culminates with him being cut and probably guys like Tyrese Martin or Jaylen Wilson battling for that final roster spots. When you it came across your screen that the Nets were actually doing this and they were going to part ways with a guy that they drafted in the first round just two years ago, what was your initial reaction? A little bit of melancholy and not much more. Uh like you said, I don’t think it’s that surprising. I wrote something on him a little while ago on Nets Daily and I kind of pointed out even if you go through their social media presence through training camp through Macau, you didn’t see anything about Whitehead. Um like not one highlight of him hitting a three uh making a play off the bounce. like it just felt like he was trending toward becoming the forgotten man on the roster. And this was always a possibility, albeit probably the lowest end one when you take a swing like the Nets did in the 2023 draft in the first round, and I’m sure we’ll talk about it, but it’s just Yeah, they got the lowest end outcome. Yeah. And you look at what Dariq did last season and I actually I got a chance to see him play in person in some G-League games because I went to the G-League showcase in Orlando and you could probably just tell this if you looked at his numbers but when I was watching those games those games were really ugly first of all and then when I’m watching Dariq it’s just against G-League competition and nothing that he was doing was really standing out to me and even amongst G-League competition just from an athleticism standpoint he really just didn’t look like he was standing out and we saw him get up to the NBA and he had the good, you know, three-point shooting games, but outside of that, like this, it was a it was almost like Dariq Whitehead was like similar to Noah Clowny in from the sense of the shot profile. All he was doing was taking threes and then if you asked him to go to the rim and, you know, get get to the rim, you know, lay up anything like that, it just wasn’t happening. And obviously for Noah, that’s not really an athleticism issue. It’s just has to do with some of his limitations as a ball handler. But for Dariq, there just wasn’t one skill really outside of the three-point shooting that stood out. When I think when you look that inferior athletically to some of these other guys, you’re going to have a really hard time playing the wing. And it’s unfortunate, but just coming off of those three lower leg surgeries that he had. The athleticism just looks zapped and the Nets gave him a year to see if it would come back and based on them making this move, it just didn’t seem like it it has. And it really didn’t seem like that in the limited minutes that he played in the summer league, in the in the preseason games. Yeah. No. And even in the G-League, like he was a career um I think in around like 46 career G-League games if I’m not mistaken. Career true shooting percentage of like 51. Um, even the three-point shooting, which was a much bigger sample size in the G-League than in the NBA, where, you know, he cleared 40% and got really hot at times, was in the low30s, he just never had a productive stretch of basketball. Um, even in the G-League, and it gets laid early and n age 19 to age 21 is a huge difference. and the Nets just really didn’t see enough progress to keep him around. And it sounds harsh, but I think if you followed his career as closely as we have, it’s not unfair uh to say that. Yeah, I wouldn’t say it’s unfair. I mean, Dariq obviously he had the issues at Duke. He had a foot surgery and then he came out and, you know, LA during his first season, he only played about four games and then that was cut short by a shin surgery. So he had had three lower legs surgery span or even less than a two-year span. And you know he had last offseason to get healthy. He played the year and then they had this off seasonason also to focused on his focus on his body. But this really would have been only his second healthy season. Are you at all surprised that the Nets didn’t give him that third season to see if anything physically came back and the skill set could round into form? because this is a guy who in high school, I mean that’s a while ago at this point, he was a pretty dynamic athlete and yeah, the Nets, you know, they gave him two seasons, but are you surprised there wasn’t any longer of a runway to see if that stuff could come back? No, not really. Because, you know, in this NBA, two years is a long time for a prospect to show something. And Dariq wasn’t this infallible prospect besides the health concerns, right? like even in his Duke tape even I mean I guess you go back to the high school stuff where obviously the athleticism was you know world a world of difference. Um but he did have concerns like okay when you get inside the ark and there’s like a dynamic situation and multiple reads like decision-m what does you know going to the rim look like for you? Um, so it’s not that it was solely health, but obviously the lack of health didn’t help his skill progression. And I get it because it’s almost, you know, it seems like at this point Dariq’s path to NBA relevancy is going to have to be an unconventional route. It’s going to have to be overseas. It’s going to have to be uh a different organization. And when you’re looking at the Nets now with the five first round rookies, many of whom are guard wing types, you know, again, positionless basketball, whatever. And even, you know, guys that they may want to see like, yeah, you can say Tyrese Martin’s 26. They really like him and I and I understand why they think he might blossom into a rotation player or Kobe Buffkin who’s the same age as Dariq. Like, I would rather swing on Buffkin right now. I know he hasn’t shown a ton, but it’s just the bodies ahead of him start to stack up, and I really just didn’t see a pathway to minutes for him on this team. And that is a result of the lack of health. But I don’t think the Nets were in a position to just play him a ton this year, even though they’re going to be bad. And then that’s ultimately why I’m not surprised that the runway wasn’t longer. Yeah, there were multiple things as we got further into training camp that it was just clear were not working in Dariq’s favor. One of them was obviously Nets brought five rookie first round picks in and obviously there a lot of those guys were ball handlers and things along those lines, but even then I had part of me that was like the Nets took this guy in the first round two years ago. They’re still in the early stages of a rebuild. I thought that his youth compared to, you know, some of these other roster bubble guys, like if you look at Dariq who’s 21, compared to a guy like Tyrese Martin who’s 26, 27, I thought that that five years of difference could keep Dariq around. Or even a guy like Jaylen Wilson who’s three or four years older than Dariq. But I think we’ve seen it in the preseason and everything we’ve heard in training camp. It was pretty clear that Tyrese and Jaylen were so far ahead of him in terms of what they were doing on the court that it would have been really hard for the Nets to justify keeping Dariq over guys like that. And then you also have the financial component of it, the Nets have to reach the salary floor. And by waving Dariq’s $3.3 million guaranteed salary, that still counts towards their books and then they can keep one of these other non-G guaranteed guys which gets them up towards the salary floor. They’re just there were multiple things working against Tariq and it didn’t I mean what what was he going to show by Halloween right because Halloween is the deadline for them to pick up the next year option on his contract to end his rookie contract. I mean at some point it’s okay to leave a little bit to the imagination in terms of they’ve seen him for two years training camp all this stuff like what would have happened in the next 3 weeks for them to change their mind about that option? Would it be all of a sudden an athleticism burst out of nowhere and like he gets way better in a week? You know, is are they really going to play him on opening night? So, I think there’s just not enough benefit there to to find a different way to get to the salary floor, which as you mentioned is another thing here. It’s like, yeah, we know what it is at this point. Let’s get to the salary floor. Um, and I I you know, you can say he’s 26, Tyrese is, he’s 21, Tyrese is 26, but at some point it does help to have foster this culture of like just keeping the better basketball players around and competitiveness and and rewarding Tyrese for what he’s done. Yeah, that stuff matters. And, you know, I think that it would have seemed kind of hypocritical for the Nets in the in the eyes of a lot of players to keep Dariq, you know, over some of these other guys who have clearly shown more. But also, you know, there was the draft, you know, component of it and the prior standing and pedigree of the guy in regards to the organization that could have played a role here. It ultimately didn’t. But to some fans, this seems to be a referendum on Shawn Marx’s drafting or a demerit. And it might be a demerit, but I don’t think that it’s a referendum. And why do I think that’s the case? We’ll get into all that. We continue locked on nets after a quick break. 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But I think that, you know, some of that some of their disagreements with Shawn have trended into the draft space, especially with how active the Nets have been in that space in recent years. And this Dariq Whitehead cut has some people have seen as sort of a referendum on Shawn Marx’s drafting. And I just find that kind of strange honestly because if you look at Shawn Marks and this regime, there’s places to criticize them, which we can and I think we will get into in a little bit, but drafting I don’t think is one of them. And I think some fans just have a skewed view of what a successful track record looks like in the draft, especially where the Nets have been picking. I mean, if you look at Shawn Marx’s drafting in terms of first round picks, he’s made, I think, eight. I mean, I’m I’m gonna include uh Nick Claxton in that conversation, who was the first pick of the second round. But you look at these guys like Carris Levert, Jared Allen, John and John and Musa. I haven’t I haven’t said Musa’s name in a while. I forgot to pronounce it. Uh Nick Claxton, Cam Thomas, Dron Sharp, Noah Clowney, Dariq Whitehead. That’s eight I’m omitting this year’s class because we don’t know what those guys are yet. But look at those eight picks. Those are all picks in the in 20 to 31 in that range. And I’d say five out of those eight are hits that could grow to six if Noah Clowny shows improvement. But that’s a pretty outstanding hit rate at that portion of the draft. So what is your opinion? Do does this Dariq Whitehead cut to you say anything about Shawn Marx’s drafting? And why do you think you know the fan reaction or the fan takes on what his draft track record looks like? I think are a little out of whack. First of all, fans should be happy that Shawn doesn’t feel that he has to hold on to Dariq to prove a draft record or because they invested a first round pick in him. That is would be sillier decision-making, right? The sunk cost of it all. But this listen, they was very obvious what the Dariq cell was at the time, right? If, let’s say, he entered the draft out of high school, if that had been allowed, he would have been a top 10, top 15 pick easily. He falls after a year at Duke, I’m sure many teams were scared off, you know, by the medicals. And when the Nets drafted him, it was, hey, for a team that desperately needs an infusion of young talent, as they did at the time, this was right after the first round sweep at the hands of the Sixers, where they had very few young contributors. it was, you know, Cam Thomas and Don Sharp. Um, it was this team really needs, you know, a young core to build around and Dariq could hit and he has this great pedigree and he could be like an all-star offensive talent, but here’s the downside. And so, you know, neither of us nor any Nets fan knew the medical records at the time and like knew how likely either scenario was. But at the time it was considered a pretty wise swing especially because they also were drafting Noah Clowney. Um you know which was a prospect. Yeah. He didn’t have injury concerns. So listen yeah you draft a guy sorry last thing. You draft a guy you believe in and you draft a guy that you know is a big swing and they swung and missed but I don’t think it is some terrible decision or black mark on his record. Yeah. Exactly. like when you have two picks there and I don’t think any pick in the 20s is going to be a safe pick because the hit rate on those picks is just extremely low which speaks to I think Shawn Marks in this front office’s track record being very impressive from a draft perspective but you have one guy that maybe you view as a little bit more of a safe prospect than Noah Clowny or safer and then you make the swing and I think I remember going back to that draft and this past draft, you know, going into a rebuild there’s a lot of fans who wanted the Nets to take that swing and they took it And I’m sure a lot of fans were happy about Dariq Whitehead and they saw this pick and they said, “Oh, this guy’s a former five-star recruit, number two player in the country. Like, we could get excited about this.” And I’m sure they did the same way that the Nets front office did. And we talked to, you know, I talked to Shawn right after that draft. And I remember him saying that Dariq obviously has the concerns with his foot and things like that, but he had the surgery done by Martin Ali, who is the same doctor who did Caris Levert surgery on his foot. Caris Levert had those same concerns. He fell in the draft, he bounced back and he gained back that athleticism and has, you know, developed a really nice NBA career for himself. Dariq, the Nets took a swing and it didn’t work out. But like I don’t I don’t think it’s any sort of a referendum on, you know, the way that this front office is drafted. It’s just it’s strange to me for people to go after this front office for drafting, which I feel like has been their strength, you know, throughout this Shawn Marks tenure. Like I I don’t think people realize how infrequently, you know, these 20s picks or into the second round, how often they hit. Like the hit rate of these picks is very low. And there’s or how often Yeah. Or how often you can flip a guy like Jared Allen three years after you draft him for a first, which leads to James Harden. like that was a hu that was a vital vital component to building what was you know probably the most talented team in franchise history. Yeah. And you look at these guys like I mean we talk about Jared Allen and Nick Claxton and sure maybe the Knicks the Nets gave Nick Claxton a charitable contract. These are two guys who signed nine figure contracts or in Claxton’s place in Claxton’s case just about nine figures. You got Cam Thomas a guy a lot of people are clamoring to pay him. You got Dron Sharp looks like a really promising big uh young big man. You got Caris Levert has turned into, you know, a guy who’s going to play in the in the NBA for a decade plus. I just think that the draft record that Shawn Marks has put forth and BJ Johnson and everybody involved with it in this Net’s front office, I think it’s been really good and it’s been I think better than most people could hope for. And you know, we got to talk a little bit more about who gets that last roster spot and things along those lines, but is there any hope for you that Tariq Whitehead could maybe turn this around and, you know, catch on somewhere else? Yeah, I mean, I think it’ll take a long time for him. I really do see the Europe route for him where he can just play really highlevel competitive basketball in a stable environment and get a lot of minutes doing so because that’s not happening for him in the NBA right now. And it’s tough for me to imagine him going to a G-League team and being that team’s focus. You know, we’re getting you touches, we’re getting you minutes. I think it’s just going to have to be somewhere else. And I really hope the New Jersey native like can do it and overcome these odds. Um, you know, Lord knows he’s going to work hard and have a positive attitude along the way. And it stinks that it his Nets career has kind of ended like this, but it’s possible. You know, anything is. And same for uh Drew Timmy. Yeah, we’re we’re gonna talk about Timmy after a quick break. But yeah, Dariq, great kid. Has was always extremely positive, extremely, you know, bright amidst all of the things that he was going through for with the media, with the coaches, with everybody involved. It just didn’t work out for him. So, we’ll see if he can catch out somewhere else. We got Drew Tammy. We got to talk about what this could look like for him. Could he potentially be back with the Nets? How do we feel about the Nets waving him? And then also, who gets this last standard roster spot? We’ll get into all that when we close out Locked on Nets after a quick break. 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The Nets G-League affiliate acquired him midway through last season. He absolutely dominated with them during the second half of the season last year in Long Island. Had multiple 50point performances, was just playing some of the best basketball of his career. He gets the call up. He looks pretty good. And then he earns the, you know, two-year non-g guaranteed deal. And the Nets decide to wave him. And it just seemed like it was a situation where they have, you know, they have Nick Claxton and Dron Sharp ahead of them at center. They had Danny Wolf coming through the draft, a guy who’s going to play minutes at center and it just didn’t really seem like there was space for him, but the Nets do have an open two-way spot and he is eligible to sign that sign in that spot if he doesn’t receive a better opportunity elsewhere. So, how did you feel about the Timmy cut and do you think that he’s a guy who will get a standard contract or an opportunity somewhere else or do you think he could be back with the Nets on this two-way? I don’t know about a standard contracts, but I wouldn’t be shocked. I mean, he’s genuinely shown some offensive ability that teams would really like out of their backup five, right? Like handle the ball at the high post, hit cutters, hit some threes, play on the dribble handoff game. And I think the Nets would be probably be open to bringing him back on a two-way. But ultimately, I’m not surprised by the cut. I mean, they did just draft Danny Wolf and not to make the easiest comparison of all time, but it is right there. And Danny’s going to have to play at some point. And there’s no sense really and holding on to Drew Timmy so tightly that you maybe block a rookie’s path to minutes. Yeah. And it just with Timmy, you know, I think that he’s shown a lot of promising stuff and I know that the Nets like him. Like I talked to Steve Hzel, the summer league coach. You know, he was just cooking people at summer league and I really enjoyed watching him. He’s obviously a great dude and just does a lot of exciting things on the court, but it’s just about, you know, his greatest skill has been this postcoring, this finishing, this, you know, secondary ball handling. A lot of these things that aren’t necessarily going to be things that he’s doing in an NBA rotation a ton. The three-point shooting is a big question mark. And like this is just a center. If you look at centers who play in today’s NBA, you got to be able to protect the rim, space the floor, you know, play defense on the perimeter, like all these different skills that Timmy wasn’t necessarily bringing to the table. I think the three-point shot is going to be huge for him. Stroke obviously looks good, but up to this point, he hasn’t shot really a high percentage at any stop except for the Nets Long Island in Long Island last season. But we’ll see that we’ll see if that can come along. I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a standard spot somewhere else. But he could be a guy who’s back with the Nets G-League team, but are back with the Nets on a two-way spot. But, you know, if I’m him, I’m kind of looking around and saying they got Nick Claxton, they got Dron Sharp, they just drafted Danny Wolf. There might be a spot that’s better for me somewhere else. But we’ll see how it plays out. But last thing we got to get into is who gets this last roster spot. And it does seem like right now the guys battling for it are the non-G guarantees which are Tyrese S Martin and Jaylen Wilson. Before we get to those guys, is there anyone else who you would throw into the conversation? I think the two guys, Haywood Highmith and Kobe Buffkin are guys I could see on the roster bubble. I think I’d be pretty shocked if either one of them gets cut. What is your opinion on that before we talk about Martin and Wilson? You can maybe throw Kobe into the three into to make that a group of three with Wilson and Martin. I don’t I think Haywood Highmith is safe. I just think that worst case scenario, you know, if he shows that he’s healthy and he shows that he hasn’t lost a massive step, then a team you can at least barter with a team for like a conditional second or a couple seconds at the trade deadline. And you know, he seems like a good vet to have around. So, I do think it’ll come down to Wilson Martin and Buffkin’s contract is guaranteed. So, the Nets could wave him and it would count towards the salary cap salary floor. They’re not quite there yet, I believe. Um, yeah, they’re right below it. Yeah. But either way, I think it might be fair to throw Kobe in there. Um, yeah. I don’t know. Who do you think is the front runner to I guess the unlucky front runner to get cut? Uh, I’d say it’s probably Wilson at this point just based off of everything we’ve seen from Tyrese Martin. I mean, I don’t say that confidently because I know that the Nets like Jaylen and do I think that Shawn Marx wants to cut two draft picks, you know, from two years ago. Like Wilson was the number 51 pick. He’s already exceeded expectations. But I know they do like him. And but I also know that they really like Tyrese Martin, too. Like I’ve talked to people in and around the organization that have raved about what he did this offseason. And I talked to Jordy Fernandez about it. And Jordy, when you’re talking about Tyrese, like there’s a lot of coach speak and they say good things and complimentary things about a lot of guys, but when you talk to him about Tyrese, he always says these things like Tyrese is about everything that we want to be here. Like he does all the right things. He sets an example for all these other guys and all those things. And not that he doesn’t say them about Jaylen, but I just hear something else when he talks about Tyrese. And then we get Michael Porter Jr. saying he’s been the most impressive player at Nets camp. I interpreted that as relative to expectations. And then you look at the Nets, you know, last preseason game on Sunday, like Tyrese comes in and he scores 11 points in eighth eight fourth quarter minutes, makes some really tough threes and one on a back door cut. Pretty much wins them the game. And it’s just like what he’s doing in the preseason is matching everything else we’ve heard. Yeah. And I’m not sure like I just think he’s a better player than Jayen Wilson. He is. I mean, right now it’d be hard to dispute that, you know, in the first preseason game, right, he’s clearly in that top 10, that rotation, and then in the second preseason game, he gets replaced in the top 10 by Drake Powell. And I get why, like, that doesn’t seem totally just merit-based, but you know, they drafted Drake Powell. They want to, you know, I’m sure he’s been working hard rehabing his knee tendonopathy. They throw him in there. He plays well and then Tyrese Martin comes in and plays against guys that he’s frankly just supposed to be way better than and he looks way better than them and he may be 26 but his trend line is pointing pretty pretty um high up pretty steeply upwards and Jay Will like it’s just listen I don’t know the likelihood of either of them being a tried and true rotation player for years to come but it does feel like Tyrese Martin has enough varied skills you know a little bit of a dribble, pass, shoot guy. Maybe needs a little bit of work on all three, but for the most part, can dribble, pass, and shoot. And Jaylen, like I just don’t know what his role is and in a high-end rotation. Like, he shoots a lot of threes and they look real pretty when they go in, but we kind of have a decent sample of him being a low30 shooter that just is not an NBA level athlete on the wing. So, what is he actually going to do, you know? Yeah. Like if I just pose the question to you right now, like what is Jaylen Wilson better than Tyrese Martin? Um maybe I don’t know. Maybe rebounding. Rebounding like that was only only thing I was going to say. I mean you look at them Yeah. And maybe I mean athletically like Jaylen’s really you know made his money or you know created his goodwill with his motor and you just look at Tyrese Martin’s skills like a reason that I you know in the summer could have seen Tyrese Martin sticking around is he’s the most proven three-point shooter out of any of these non-G guaranteed guys like you said with Jaylen Jaylen played four seasons at Kansas. He’s now been here for two seasons. Like that’s a six season sample size. He’s never been a good three-point shooter. Like really even a decent one. Even if the former looks good or you notice the makes, just look at the percentages. And Tyrese Martin, like nothing great or, you know, anything to write home about, but he’s a guy who’s I think like mid30, like mid-30s around 35%. He also shows shows way more ball handling prowess. Another thing that you got to get into, I mean, this is a guy who has some legit like secondary ball handling chops, pick and roll stuff that he can do, creating off the bounds for himself and others. interesting. He’s a guy who made like what he made 10 nine or 10 threes in a game last season. I mean, like you don’t do that unless you’re a good shooter, I feel like. So, we’ll we’ll see. But I think that I wouldn’t be surprised if either of them got cut in favor of the other. But I think Tyrese based on what we’ve heard and seen should be the favorite. And like Jaylen being the number one the number 51 pick in a draft, like would it be a good success story for Shawn Marks if he worked out? Yeah. But I think Sean just showed by cutting Dariq Whitehead that that’s not really playing a role in his thought process. And Jaylen’s a guy who played four college seasons. So he’s not that much younger than Tyreek. It’s like a year and a half. So we’ll see how it plays out. But I think both of us agree Tyrese should be viewed as the front runner at the moment. But we got a lot more Net stuff coming up. We got to talk about Danny Wolf and Drake Pow. We’re gonna have an episode talking about those guys and much more. So Lucas, appreciate you taking the time as always and we’ll have you back on tomorrow. That does it for today’s episode of Locked on Nets. Hope you guys enjoyed the talk with Lucas. If you do not already, make sure to subscribe to Locked on Nets on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast, whether Apple Podcast or Spotify. If you have a second and you enjoy the content, smash that like button, leave a comment, leave a fivestar review. Anything you can do to engage is much appreciated. We got the Nets final preseason game and then we’re rolling on into the regular season. So, we’ll have coverage of all that and more when I’m back tomorrow talking more Brooklyn Nets basketball.

Erik Slater and Lucas Kaplan react to the Brooklyn Nets cutting Dariq Whitehead and Drew Timme. They analyze whether Sean Marks made the right decision, what this says about his drafting, and which player should get Brooklyn’s final roster spot.

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