The Stars Packed Up Their First Two Points And Are Heading Off To Colorado | DLLS Stars Podcast

The Stars Packed Up Their First Two Points And Are Heading Off To Colorado | DLLS Stars Podcast

Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast. I was hoping I was hoping the rest of that was in there. It wasn’t just the beginning of it because it did almost get out of hand. But you know what? It didn’t. And they won. So, why are all these people angry about it? Yeah, it didn’t look great when they were up five to one and all of a sudden it was 5 to4. You got nervous, but they won. They won. That’s the point of the game. Anyway, we’ll get into all this today. the DLS Stars podcast and we have a special guest from Denver, Conor McGee, the radio playby-play voice of the Colorado Avalanche will join us segment three. Maybe Sean’s here, Sam’s here, Luds is not. Let’s start the show. [Music] [Music] [Music] This is the DLS Stars podcast on Friday, October 10th, here in the lounge studios. Sam Nestler. I’m Owen Newkerk. Our producer Ryan Va. Sean Shapiro joins us remotely from his compound in suburban Detroit. and no LUDs today because he is on a plane flying to Chicago for his U8 tournament weekend. He’s going to do our show tomorrow night remotely. Then I think he misses Monday, then he’s back for Tuesday’s home opener. Before we get into all the fun today, let’s talk about two quick things. One, Balln knower bonus. boy. If you’re a Cowboys fan in Dallas, you can really cash in and DLLS merch because Cowboys play the Panthers and that’s one of the Ball Noer bonus options this week. Pick the the winner of that game. Spend at least $25 on merch. You’ll get a gift card if you get it right for the amount you spent between $25 and $250. So, definitely take advantage of that. And by the way, Die Hard sale still going on only through Sunday night. Whether it’s getting the $36 discounted annual subscription plus a free t-shirt or $59, you get the subscription and a branded bills DLLS hat. Those are the two options. We’ve never had the hat option before as part of the Die Hard. You get that. You get 20% off merch. You get all the other bon benefits of being a diehard. Get that ballnower bonus. Scan the QR code alldls.comintro. Look at those balln branded Bill’s hats there. We got the moose hat just tucked in here today. I love it. Oh, he was pretty good last night. Sean, Sam, myself, we have Conor McGee from the Colorado Avalanche radio broadcast. He’s their play-by-play guy. He’s going to join us in segment three today. But right now, we need to talk about last night. Why not? Stars are 1 and0 after beating the Winnipeg Jets on the road. Sean was not on our postgame show, so it’s always fun when we can find Shawn’s two cents and throw them up on the screen. So, Sean, let’s start with that. Um, let’s go right to the goalender because we always like to lean on you for an expert on goalie stuff. Jakeer got a win. Celebrated his 150th career NHL regular season victory. Sam, you pointed out the milestone of fastest for us goalie. Fastest US born goalie. Yep. How about that? Not bad. However, I’d say work in progress this year for a guy that we expect to be at least challenging for a VZNA trophy. Well, I I think one of the the key takeaways from this is look what happened at the other end where uh the guy that Jake is supposed to be challenging for Vzna trophy and a starting gig for at the Olympics for Team USA. Um it was a five the 54 game probably wasn’t the pregame prediction anyone anyone made for for those two in net. So, um I think it’s I always kind of watched a lot of games last night. Uh re I went back I watched the Detroit Montreal game in person yesterday. Uh came home, watched a lot of game, flipped through a bunch of the games, watched the first two periods of the Dallas game last night, watched the third period this morning, then re-watched through it. And one of the things that’s always fascinating from a goalie perspective early in the season is some guys are slow starters. Some guys are some guys take a minute to get up to the speed of the game, take a second to things that they didn’t deal with in preseason. Um, and I’m not going to be an apologist for Jakeer in game one, but I am going to take a look at what happened in game one and look at that and be like, if this is a game one problem, that’s okay. If these are game 10 problems, if these are game 25 problems, then we have a deeper conversation. But for me, in a vacuum, that third period is a great example of you need to save one of those two goals, right? Like, and we can kind of go through some of the the dynamics of of both of those, whether it’s the whether it’s the kind of the the rebound on the first Connor goal where um I think it’s a great play by Kyle Connor to kind of create intentionally create the rebound on on the shot and everything and go there, but Jake needs to be a little bit more of an athlete there. And then the fourth one, um, he’s completely square and gets beat clean on that. Those are two where if you let up one of those, I’m kind of like, okay, that’s fine. We can we can live with that. It’s when when both of those happen, you kind of need the save. So, um, it’s it’s Jake is going to get going and he’s going to have to figure things out. All the goalies are um there was some you could be what happened in San Jose and we could have a lot more problems right now. on that later. Yeah, more on what happened with Alex Nelkovich later. But that is uh that that’s where I look at that where this was the building block, the stumbling block for Jake. They still won. You never apologize for a win in the NHL, right? Like I think maybe the DLSS account tweeted that, Sam, maybe. I don’t know. Uh the uh piece of piece of knowledge. Um you never apologize for a win in the NHL. Period. Exactly. But you can also criticize the play, but you don’t apologize. You got the win. You found a way. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. And so that’s the and that’s I think that’s the biggest takeaway for me on all this is you found a way to win. And unlike some teams across the league who after a game or two are coming out with problems that seem unfeasible to fix. The Stars are at least problems that like all right these are just tweaks. You know, there’s going to be a pretty intensive penalty kill, say, sorry, pretty intensive power play discussion about how we don’t allow short-handed goals. You know that there’s going to be a good conversation between Jeff Ree and Jakeer. There’s probably going to be a discussion with the equipment guys of what happened to Smeiro skates, why did he fall multiple times? There’s going to be some fun I mean conversations you can kind of laugh at right now before you play den play the Avalanche tomorrow night and I think that’s okay. Well, interesting you say that. Let’s hear from Glenn Gulletson in the postgame comments about how he felt this performance was. It’s exactly kind of, you know, not how you want to draw it up or but it’s what you expect a little bit. I talked to you guys before, uh, nothing mimics the first round of playoffs more in my opinion than the first five, six games of the season. Everybody’s juiced up. There’s a lot of energy in the buildings. Everybody’s healthy for the most part. celebrities and there’s a lot of energy and the games can get a little crazy and that’s what that’s what happened tonight. But it’s a good lesson for us. You know, it’s it’s okay now. You get the two points, but you know, 5-1 in the third, playing a very good game. Uh and we got a little overzealous with offense trying to trying to make it six when you know, you got to take some money off the table there and uh we uh kind of left our goalie out to dry. Three breakaways. That that’s tough especially when we controlled most of the play. Um that just can’t happen. But there’s a lesson there for us, right? And uh fortunately, we get to we get to learn it with two points and not the other way around. They’re too good of a team to uh you know, you got to you can’t be all in. So Sam, you brought this up yesterday. Do you call off the dogs when you have a 5-1 lead and try to protect that a little bit more? I say you try to score that because you haven’t really had a lot of time on power play. You work on that. It’s important time and reps early in the season, but as Lud said, four on three is not five on three. And you have to be more careful than forcing stuff. And that Morgan Baron goal flipped everything. And as Sean pointed out, you still went into the President’s Trophy winning team on the road in a very tough building and you beat them. Granted, they had some injuries, but you found a way, even if it wasn’t the five to one route that we were all excited for after three minutes or so. Yeah, we’ve seen I mean, in sports in general, not just even hockey, you you defend too much or you play a little too passive when you have a lead. It’s it can cost you very quickly. The Stars Canucks game was a perfect example of that last year. But you can also still push and be a little bit safe, right? using a football reference. If you are in a three-score lead, you’re probably not throwing that deep post into double coverage that you may throw if you’re chasing the game. That’s that’s just as simple. It doesn’t need to be let’s just run the ball up the middle and punt it three times. And for hockey, you don’t just need to dump it in and and chase it every single time. But you do need to play a little smarter. You don’t you’re not in a six-on- scenario where you need to score that goal and you have to try to get that puck on net. The pass from I think it was Duchine that led to that that breakaway. Yeah. trying to just be really and usually he gets those through. Yeah. And that’s fine. It’s just that’s the kind of scenario where you go I probably don’t need to throw this because it could cost us and that’s what we saw and it ended up pushing him. But as I think Mike was trying to get this angle from everybody in postgame last night, Mike Hikah or someone from the Winnipeg whoever was kept asking is there is it good to have some of this adversity? No one was answering it. Nobody jumped. But in a way, yes, you get the first game. You got everything in that first game. You got to you got to play with a lead. You got to play with a big lead. You got to play trying to hold on to a tight lead. You got a lot of things to learn from game one and as Sean said where you don’t hold too much against them in game one of 82. So Gully had a question in the postgame I thought was interesting because we talked a little bit about line juggling and I’ll give it to Sean in a second, but here’s what Gully said about mixing up his groups during the game last night. Yeah. No, you got to move things around and uh I I think uh you run the risk sometimes of changing it too much. um which I thought even in my head uh uh I was going to try to be careful of, but I did like some of the things I saw and some of the combinations actually did work and and connected. So, um you know, we’ll continue to do that, but probably add a little bit more stability as we go. You were trying to keep tabs of the who was playing with who, some of it was special teams and mixing it up. The moment was they they’re just not totally sure yet. Yeah, there’s gonna be and I asked Luds this one of the I said when do you think that we’ll start to see this team really find its game and like it could be game 30 before we know what the pairing it might be his favorite game 62 or 62 as he loves to talk about you it’s going to be it’s going to be this way in terms of their style their structure their systems and it’s also going to be this way with a bunch of new faces to Glenn Golden to try to figure out what works and they’re missing some key guys not just for injury right now that’s a good point Shawn missing Jamie Ben does throw off their original plans quite a it. I mean, throws off your original plans, but you’re it’s it’s not like, oh, well, he was gone for one game. I mean, it’s been How long has it been since they couple weeks? How long they’ve known? Yeah, they’ve known They’ve known he was going to be out for a couple weeks. So, they’ve known that. They know, you know, he’s going to be out for four to eight weeks. So, I I don’t really buy like I don’t think Jaime Ben not being there is an excuse that he isn’t even worth going down right now. I just think it was the first game. It was two good teams. It was the Jets and I thought there was some really highskilled players who and Miko Ranton and Kyle and Kyle Connor last night who somehow looked like bargains at $12 million last night. So like I I I don’t really go down the whole Jamie Ben not being there. Um I do think there is a there is a key element here for for Glenn Gooson of I think there’s something healthy. I know Hikes was probably the one trying to ask about the adversity question. I do think there is something healthy for the Stars coaching staff to have a win like this where there’s teachable moments, but it’s not like, oh, we can just stick with everything and just basically just run the tape back like we can for just just basically do the exact same thing on Saturday night. They know they can’t do that. I think it’s I don’t know about if adversity is the right thing, but I think it’s a coaching tool, right? Like obviously you’d love to go win eight nothing every game of course but I think adverse from once you take what you have in front of you you can use that silver lining to really build for another game that’s going to be an emotional an emotional one. I mean think about the we we we often talk about oh my god Migo Ranton and going back to Colorado last year was a big deal. Just think about his first trip back to Colorado on Saturday night and we’re probably gonna you might even ask ask our guest about it later. Oh yes, the first one. The first one back since they all watched what he did in the third period of game seven. So I think these are all good things and you won the game and you take it and go. All right, before we get to the ad break, let’s hear from Rantin on what Sean was just talking about about the play last night. Five on five really good game. I think we were really good five on five defending and offensively playing well, but obviously third period, you know, especially power play, we got to be more careful. You know, they’re looking for breaks like that and we gave him two easy ones. So, but we learn we learn from it and go forward. He said it again later when the guy asked about adversity and he almost gave a verbatim answer. He said he thought that the five on five and penalty kill won him the hockey game. He said, “Our power play was okay, but we gave them two.” and he said, “We can’t do that. You can’t can’t give up two short-handed goals.” But he’s right, Sean. Five on five, the Stars were the better team last night. And Scott Arneil said after the game he wasn’t happy with about 50 minutes of the way his team played. I mean, if you’re if you’re Winnipeg, isn’t there more of the referendum of disaster right now? I mean, I’m sure we could probably check in with our friends in Winnipeg on that. You’re if you’re if you’re the Jets, you get the home opener. You It’s the home opener. The buildings the building’s pumping and everything like that. You’ve got uh the team that knocked you out of the playoffs last year. You’ve got all of this going and Connor Hellbuck lets up five goals, which is pretty much unheard of for for for the league MVP from last season. You um get rocked at five on five. You don’t do much on the power play at all. So there are if you’re Winnipeg, if you’re kind of taking the two sides out of this and if we’re doing a show like this in Winnipeg right now, there’s a there very much is the chicken little drop that is actually worthwhile potentially. The sky is not falling. Exactly. You know, but in in Winnipeg, all of a sudden there’s a lot to to kind of take from that. And um I mean really I my biggest takeaway from Winnipeg last night was one guy showed why he’s worth $12 million per year, probably even more than Kyle Connor. He was a game breaker. But if you take Kyle Connor’s game out of it, Stars win this game running away and we’re not even talking about oh my god, did they did they struggle in the third? Like that was Kyle Connor had a superstar moment and it wasn’t enough because the Stars were a much better team. All right, we’ll talk more about this in our pregame show tomorrow getting ready for Stars and ABS. But up next, let’s talk about this arena thing that came up last week. Are the Stars really moving out of downtown Dallas in the next five years? You know what I hate, Owen? What’s that, Sam? Spreadsheets. Really? Spreadsheets are boring. I like spreadsheets. There’s organizational flow. If you want to keep track of your finances, we got a way where you will never have to use spreadsheets again. And that is with Monarch Money. 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Can’t win. Okay. The Dallas Stars have been in downtown Dallas since the team moved from Minnesota in 1993. They were in Reunion Arena at the start and then in 2001 they switched to American Airlines Center. This is going to sound stupid, but I wasn’t here. Where was Reunion Arena? Very close to here, but it was like downtown area. in Dallas. Correct. And aside from the fact that Reunion was and people still talk about the lore of how loud it was, people were on top of it. It didn’t have what they call modern amenities, not as many, you know, the suites, the uh VIP stuff. Zero suites, right? It didn’t have all the stuff that that you use as extra uh sources of revenue. It’s look salary caps go up costs of thing of operations go up you have to pay and cover all these things. So you know teams are looking for revenue sources whether it’s inside the arena or outside it. And so why am I giving you this brief history lesson and it’s not even a very extensive one to say the least is because last week last last Friday on October 3rd Front Office Sports published a report then the Dallas Morning News did a kind of companion piece where they saw the report they did some of their own reporting and the reports were that the Dallas Stars are considering moving away from American Airlines Center when their lease is up at the end of the uh in 2020 in 2031. Now Sean, we already know that the Dallas Mavericks have very much their new ownership group have have voiced their desire to build their own basketball specific arena, new land, and the development around that with the obvious yet still not legal casinosports book with that. The Dallas Stars to this point until this report came out where everybody assumed it was they wanted them to still be the tenant in American Airlines Center. Maybe the only one but then they can do some things and it’s, you know, a very modern building. They keep doing renovations. There’s nothing wrong with it. But this report was saying that and Brad Albert’s the president of the Dallas Stars and CEO basically admitted and said, “We’re not denying this. We’ve talked to Plano. We’re going to look at Frisco. We’re going to talk to Arlington, you know, heck, maybe even Mckin’s in there. The Colony. What? The Colony. The Colony, right? So, all the areas around Colin County as a possible place to build a new arena in six years time. when you hear that is that and my my first reaction was why would you want to leave downtown because they’ve got a good setup and it’s well DFW is a sprawling metroplex and travel is not easy if you don’t live near downtown I’m one of them right driving down to games to our studio is not great for me if they had put a rink in Fris or on the border between Frisco and Plano for my travel purposes I would love that there are people that like getting downtown, whether it’s riding the dart or coming from Arlington or Fort Worth, where that would probably be harder. So, my first thought was, is this really what they’re looking at, which I guess they are, but is this not leverage to try to get something more out of the city of Dallas and a new lease with the AAC, maybe more money to do renovations? Well, it’s I think this is a a key space where two things can be true, right? it it can be a leverage play. It’s everything can be put on the if you’re if you’re the stars when you’re making this move, you’re putting things you’re going to the city of Dallas and you’re basically laying it out there that we are willing to move and um the investment in the land and and looking into the land and everything directly that is a real actionable piece of it. They’re not bluffing. And so, um the end of the day, it’s one of the and this isn’t just a stars thing. This is a leaguewide thing. The NHL is trying to find ways to juice up revenue. And as silly as it sounds, um, the NHL would be very much on board with a move to Plano or one of those other places with an entertainment district because the in theory it’s the Stars controlling and they’re basically no longer just the they’re not just a tenant, they’re a landlord and they’re running it. and all of a sudden that concert that’s there on a on a Saturday night when the stars are on the road that goes into hockey related revenue. Um all of a sudden the all of the parking there goes into hockey related revenue. There are all these things that um become part of the larger NHL business model if the team has full control of it basically. And this is and guys like this is not just a stars thing. This is a sports thing in general, right? Like look across sports teams are becoming more and more of content factories, more and more of pureblown businesses than just sports entities, right? Like I think like the most famous obviously Luds isn’t here to eye roll me, but like think about like in in soccer, right? Like a PSG or a Barcelona, right? Like they they have gone they have begun above and beyond though. Yeah, they have gone above and beyond the kind of just soccer business. they are in the the empire building business and so every sports team is kind of in the small empire building business and if you can get the footprint and entertainment district and I guarantee you the stars the stars obviously will never have the the cash cow that the cowboys have but if you’re the stars and you can go build another little entertainment district similar to what the cowboys have built over there at the star all of a sudden you’re looking at a lot of money and then people will also say well how does this help the how does this help the on ice I thing and everything like that if it becomes part of hockey related revenue, more of that, there’s more money going into it. So, it’s a very real possibility. That’s the big one, right, Sean? Is that Brad even said it, we want I think he called it three 365 degree revenue, something like that, where it’s not just the arena. And as great as the AAC is with the the uh bars that are right there and the stores and everything, that’s not owned by the Dallas Stars. So, to have like I think of Edmonton. Edmonton has that arena right there and right across the street they have their watch parties. They have their team stores. They have a bunch of restaurants that I believe are all directly owned by the team and it just keeps people there. You know, you go to the game 3:00, you’re the stars are making money from everything you’re doing until that time. And as Sean said, it’s not just to make money so that they can pay, you know, Brad Albert’s more money. It’s to make money so that they can afford things and pay players and pay for things to do with the team. And uh I think that’s what’s missing at the AAC right now. As much as the building is great, the surrounding is what they want. And as much as it is hard for fans to to pallet, you can’t just continue to raise ticket prices to astronomical levels. And I say that knowing that they have raised prices and certain people have been very upset about, oh geez, that’s paying a lot more. This I, you know, I don’t think they should do that. And the common line is, well, the salary cap goes up and everything else does. And so from one to another, we get more and more of that. Yet there are limitations to it because the fan base will start to back off if they feel like they are paying too much, right? There’s always a trying to to navigate a fine line between raising it so you can boost your revenues a little bit but also not giving it away. So in doing all that is I think we have frozen Jean there asleep. He’s been really really steady for the last minute or so. There he goes. As as you look at it, uh Marcus in the chat said, you know, what’s wrong with the AC? It’s it’s great. Yeah, it’s not about the building, right? The building is fine. It they’ve done some modern renovations late, you know, the the center hung scoreboard is new from a couple years ago. They changed out all the seats. They’re planning on doing stuff with some of the suites and change, you know, to keep it as uh functionally operational and modern as possible. It’s not about the building because if if it was just that, they’d be fine. Y it’s more about like you said the extra things you can do around it and having more control and and all those things and that’s actually something that would benefit us because if it goes into you know I’m not saying I’m not saying I’m advocating for or against it right because I’m happy with it at the AAC I like the idea of downtown centers having your arenas it’s a collection otherwise you’re just pulling more and more things away that being said if the salary cap goes up because more things are going into hockey related revenue, then guess what? Players make more, it gets more interesting, and that’s always a good thing. Yep. Agreed. Sean, you got frozen out there for a minute, so hopefully you’ve switched it to your strong Wi-Fi. That’s become a character on our show now. But, uh, anything you want to add over the next minute or two about where this goes in your mind? Yeah, I mean I I think money talks and I have a hard time if when when the stars have already gone and made the kind of effort to try to find that space, it’s hard to stare at that kind of potential entertainment district they control completely as something that they don’t a path they don’t go down. Um especially when you know Stars owner Tom Galardi, he is in the hospitality hotel business there. I’m sure there’s a ton of opportunities he looks at for that. So, um it’s it’s it’s one of those where I kind of I would expect it to happen, right? Like we’ll see how the city of Dallas pushes back on it and everything like that. I mean, honestly, the not to be like funny about it, but like one of the things I can’t help but wonder is and we have a great studio right there, but like do all of a sudden you guys get moved to Ireland like right now, like right now you guys have a studio location that is close and centered to the AAC, right? Like that’s where it’s a great spot and the M for the Mavs and the Stars. Yeah. You can’t scooter and Arlington. No, I certainly can’t. Yeah. So, it’s like I I just it’s it’s kind of one of those funny things where you think about what an arena and a sports team does and everything and kind of what it brings to the the life of a downtown and it’s and I’m just thinking of a DLOS studio, but all of a sudden I we’ll have to ask GM Ben how his lease is on 20 through 2031. So, yeah, that’s right. Hey, Sean, really quick because I know we’re going to get to our guest. Is it feasible to build what they want here? Um, yes. I I I I I think the from an arena perspective, I think there’s definitely the the possibility. I think you’d have to be a little bit outside the box. I think you’d have to have some creativity. Now, like one of my favorite arenas in the in the world is the is what they’ve done in Seattle where they’ve taken but that has a little bit of complications where there was no team that had to play in between. So, could you do it in the short time for the the refresh and and and do all of that? So, um I think you could, but getting a blank slate and being able to add some of those other things, you’re really hard to do. Not to mention that unlike Utah where they had control of the building or Seattle where there wasn’t a team there, there American Airlines Center is one of the busier venues in the United States. So whether it’s games or otherwise, concerts, all those things, it’s hard to find a lot of time where you have dormant to do a lot of of reconstruction. Not saying it needs a whole lot. All right. Much more on that as we keep an eye on it, although Front Office Sports did say that right now Plano was in the lead. And I think they said they’re going to have to make a decision in like the next six to eight months. Right. Right. Because again, if you want to find a place, plan and build an arena, construct it, all that stuff, that’s going to come this season. We might even find something out before the end of this year. All right, we’re going to talk to Conor McGee from the Colorado Avalanche next because the Stars are playing the ABS tomorrow and we’ll do it next here on DLS. But before we do all of that, let’s talk about the DLS Die Hard sale. Our latest die hard sale is in full swing and fans now have two ways to join. Maybe you sorry. You can get in for just $36 with a limited edition shirt. Or you can step up and grab a limited branded Bills die hard hat for $59 before they sell out. It’s a pretty good looking hat. Maybe you’ve had your eyes on one of our great t-shirts like the Finish Mafia, the Otter shirt, maybe the 16bit White Johnson shirt and the or the Miko Moose shirt. 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That’s right. The force of nature brings in the Dallas Stars. Conor McGee, who’s the radio playby-play voice of the Colorado Avalanche. Connor, I’ve known you for a very long time, and I don’t say that as if it’s a negative. It’s actually an extreme positive. But are you sure? Uh, maybe not. Well, we have a lot of fun when we come when you guys come to town. These are two really good hockey teams. And before I get into some of the maybe a little bit more difficult sentiments with a guy like Miko Rantin, let’s go with a positive one. And thanks for joining us, by the I know you were trying to get we were trying to get Connor a quick uh behind the curtains trying to get him on as our last guest of the other 31 when we started this idea. Connor, I circled you first. I want to hear a shock. Thanks. His very avalanche centric take on Colorado because you you and I tease each other about like I’ve listened to you in the car when the Stars were playing in Colorado and my kids heard how excited you were on some of your calls and all that fun. But it didn’t work because you were on a plane coming back and forth from LA for the home the season opener for the Avalanche. So you you proposed two different times and literally there were both times that we were on a plane going to LA for the season opener and coming back from LA for the season opener. It was twice. I didn’t want to, but I Now he’s driving. No, he’s he’s parked because unlike Sam, Connor is smart enough to to keep it steady, right? That’s smart. That’s smart. Yeah. All right. So Connor, happy thoughts. How much are you enjoying our very good buddy Scott Wedgwood being a Avalanche goalie right now? Oh, I mean Wedgie is and you guys know he’s one of the top human beings of all time. I mean just just absolutely gradea A+ top shelf, you know, it doesn’t get better than Scott. He’s he’s the nicest guy and the most not goalie goalie of all time. You know what I’m talking about? Like sometimes goalies are, you know, they’re a little out there. They’re a little weird. And Scott Wedgewood is just a normal guy who will sit down and talk to you, hang out. No big deal. We have this set at Ball Arena um that we we’ve moved the altitude pregame and postgame show and and intermission shows to up on club level. Used to be kind of in the bowl, but it’s got this whole kind of late night show feel to it afterwards. And if the ABS win, then you bring an ABS player up and sit on the couches and it’s a live audience. like anybody from the arena, even if you don’t have a club level ticket, can come in there and watch the show. It’s great, great atmosphere. And he came in last night and was an absolute natural star of the show. ABS don’t win that game last night without Scott Wedgwood, by the way. Um, but I even said with Eric Johnson on the call last night, which was a nice treat. Um, and by the way, Eric Johnson, who retired earlier this week, hopped on as an analyst with me and Jack Drury was our first intermission interview. And the first thing Jack says to Eric Johnson, just said, “You’re in the booth already?” But uh but uh but anyhow, like it was just it was it was he was the star of the show. And the ABS have two number one goalenders. They have McKenzie Blackwood and they have Scott Wedgwood. And that’s that’s a good thing because Blackwood has gone through some injuries. Uh, but Wedgewood, I can’t believe that that Nashville parted with them for what they did because it’s been a massive upgrade for the ABS. Connor, you just mentioned it. How what’s the update for Blackwood? How long is this Scott Wedgwood’s net? Uh, he was on the ice taking shots at morning skate yesterday. Blackwood was um so Jared Bedard won’t give a specific time, but usually when that’s the case for goalies, they’re getting close. So I I don’t know if that’s next week sometime. I don’t know if it’s the week after, but um the initial assessment from from camp was is that he wasn’t going to miss the entire month of October. So uh but I would probably say uh obviously tomorrow versus Dallas and then we go to Buffalo two days off Columbus. So you don’t have a backto-back scenario until mid November almost I want to say for Colorado which is good. So, um, so that means that Black Quick can take as long as he needs to heal, but initially it said it wouldn’t be the entire month of October. Hey Connor, I wanted to, uh, one of the things that kind of was kind of cool this week just from an Avalanche perspective. I think it was either it was either opening night or the second game. I think Nate Nate McKinnon becomes the all-time points leader for the franchise since the since he moved from Colorado. is as someone who’s gotten to call basically his entire career and kind of watched him do that, what’s it what do you take most from kind of watching him play? Cuz for me, just from a physical specimen watching him play, he’s one of the most entertaining guys to watch on a shift to shift. What do you do you watch? I I watch frankly I mean obviously everyone talks talks about his speed and he he’s blazing fast. Have you ever ride? I mean, you can watch on TV and you can tell that, okay, that guy has, you know, that’s a 25 mph man right there. But until you get up close, you kind of have no idea. And everyone talks about that all the time. But he is so strong, upper body, lower body, the strength of Nathan McKinnon, he’s an absolute mule. And I don’t think anyone talks about that enough. Uh, and the way that he plays, a physical style, he actually is tough to defend. He can hit you if he wants. Um, you know, just ask Romanov from the New York Islanders last year. If you go back and look at that hit, Romanov thought he was going to come in and get Nathan McKinnon. Uh, but McKinnon went all Peter Forsber and reversed hitted him and it it was it was fantastic. Um, but what I’ve liked about McKinnon, because I I worked in game ops when he was first drafted, uh, number one overall back I mean, boy, it’s it’s 12 years ago now, which is crazy. We’re all old. Um, but uh, but I’ve like to watch the m maturity of Nathan McKinnon and it’s gotten better ever since 2021. Remember when the Avalanche lose four in a row to Vegas and McKinnon very infamously in that press conference says I haven’t won S yet. Right. And from then on, I think he realized that, you know, you have to have the work, you have to have the maturity, and that has been the biggest piece of growth for Nathan McKinnon, uh, over his career. And now, you know, he that’s three straight 100point seasons for him. Joe Sackic never did that. Peter Forsberg never did that, which is amazing to me. And for him to become the all-time leading scoreer in Avalanche only history, Joe Sackic had over 600 points with the Quebec Nordics, by the way. But going into that game in LA on Tuesday night, Joe Sackic and Nathan McKinnon had played the exact same amount of games and had the exact same amount of points in an Avalanche sweater, which was Twilight Zone stuff. And Nathan McKinnon gets two assists to to go ahead and and become the all-time leading scoreer in Avalanche only history. But, uh, it’s to have two guys like that in a 30-year span, and this is the 30th year of the Colorado Avalanche, is is beyond lucky for fans here. But McKinnon, to answer your question, in a very long way, I think his his maturity has been the biggest piece of growth for him. All right, that that leads us really nicely into Miko Ranton and uh obviously you’ve it wasn’t very long before you had Nico back in Denver last year after he was traded to Dallas, right? Obviously, you have the Carolina trade, then the deadline move to Dallas, and then shortly thereafter, here he is going back to Denver. But then you have the playoffs and what happened in game seven of course has to still we talked about it with Corey Massac the other day and how much that still is there on this that I can press. My question is what was your perspective of watching that game seven because that’s that’s your guy. You won a Stanley Cup with that guy and then you watched him be the single-handedly the one that that you know to to quote Jack Edwards took the dagger and stabbed the heart. Yeah. I mean the first goal is nice. I mean the avalanche at frankly the entire game in game seven had not given any gaps to anybody. It it reminded me, frankly, of game six in 2022 when they had won the cup and Tampa got a goal, but that was pretty much the only chance that they had all game and the Avalanche played the the most perfect third period in the history of hockey to solidify the Stanley Cup in 2022. I was feeling like that a lot in the first two and eight minutes periods of game number seven. And the Avalanche had done that. But all of a sudden, you give a little bit of a gap to Miko Ranton, and it’s a nice goal for his first. The second one, he’s trying to wrap around. It actually rolls off the toe of his stick, goes off Sam Gerard, and goes in. Not the most glorious uh goal of all time. Uh you know, it takes a little bit of luck. And then the third one is an empty netter. Um so it just it had a touch of destiny to it, unfortunately. Um and I just think that when you feel things changing in the arena, everybody else feels it too. And the first goal had that feeling of of changing things. And like I said, the second one very lucky. He would probably tell you the same thing. And the third one is an empty net to seal the deal. So I think it’s just one mistake and that’s uh Ryan Lingren giving a little bit too much space to Mico Ranton in to shoot and nothing that Mackenzie Blackwood could do about it. But uh yeah, that really started it off and um yeah, it wasn’t the uh wasn’t the end that I would have chosen. I would probably would have chosen any other end possible. What do you think the reception for Mo is going to be tomorrow night in Denver? I think people I think people have gotten over it. You know, I think that uh you know, we’ve had a couple returns to Ball Arena now, both in the regular season and in the postseason. And you know, there he he was still pretty beloved when he was here, but you know, it’s still, and I say this with everything, it’s how you it’s how you handle your business, right? And I think it still may come across as as you know, I don’t want to say it’s not selfish. It’s just I think when you play with superstars, that’s what makes this tough because Nathan McKinnon and Kale Mar are as superstar as it get, right? So Miko Rantinon is always going to come in third on that list and that’s what makes the avalanche cap situation tough right now. If this happens in two years, right, when the cap is is very much extended, it may not be that much of a conversation, but because of the timing, it was tough. Um, I think there’s some people who understand that there’s some people who be like, “Okay, well, um, you’re out of my life now. You’ve you’ve moved on. You’re with my ex.” Uh, which isn’t great. Um, you know, so uh uh I just I think it’s kind of a mixed bag, but I’m I’m not sure it’s going to be quite Matt Duchain getting booed every time he touches the puck when he comes to Ball Arena. Um, but we’ll see tomorrow uh if if and how many people have turned the page. I have like 30 more questions and we have two minutes more. Either one of you want to grab one or should I I got nowhere to be today so I’ve got I’ve got one somewhat. All right, go for it, Sean. When I flipped on the game last night, it’s uh it’s still always going to be a little bit weird for me to see uh Brent Burns playing for the Avalanche, and I think he played what 2130 something like that last night. When is is that kind of with with with him this year? Obviously, we know with Taves and and Mar they’re going to be they’re going to carry the water for most of everything, but is that kind of what Brent’s role is going to be? like how do you kind of see what how he’s going to what role he’s going to play at this stage in his career on this team um with with the ABS now John first of all it’s impressive that you’re coming to us from the moon uh with that connection it’s very good um so appreciate that uh but I mean Brent Burns personalitywise I mean he’s the type of guy and I I joked with him the first time I met him which was at our charity golf tournament to start camp this season I said you know I’m going to have to you know it took me about 8 seconds to not hate you from 20 years of hating you both at Minnesota and with the San Jose Sharks because everyone just loves him the second he walks into a room. It just I mean he just holds court. He’s one of the best dudes out there and he’s 40 years old but he he doesn’t act like he’s 40. He doesn’t play like he’s 40 years old. I mean 40 like I’m 40 years old and I could not play you know eight minutes out there plus you know much less 20 and some hard minutes on the penalty kill. Uh and you know that has really because usually top PK unit has actually been Kale Mar time. You know part of a huge reason that um in case there was any doubt that Kale Mar would be a perennial Norris Trophy finalist uh he was out there killing penalties. So he was doing everything that a defenseman should do. But, you know, now with Brent Burns coming in, he’s able to take some of those minutes out and that actually helps Kale Mar and be active for five on five for the power play and it’s it’s something that he excels at. Uh, you know, getting shots from the point. He’s one of the best of the National Hockey League. Um, he’s a smart defender. So, I just think that having a guy like that pretty much in your third D pairing um is nothing but a benefit for the Colorado Avalanche. He had choices and places to go, but he he hasn’t won a cup yet and he chose to come to Colorado and he’s been an instant fit and an instant hit in the ABS locker room. Connor, I knew that this would be an easy one and we’ll have to do it again because we have way too many things that we didn’t touch on, but the Broncos beat the Eagles last week and the ABS are 2 and 0. So, it can’t be all that bad in Denver. Thank you so much for carving out some time for us today. Could be worse. Could be in Philadelphia where you lost all three yesterday. It’s tough living. I love it. There he goes. Thank you, Connor. Conor McGee, the playbyplay radio voice of the Colorado Avalanche. And we’ll talk so much more about them tomorrow pregame the game than postgame show. Should be fun, but we have a lot more to get to, including at least one super chat next here on DLS. If you never want to miss what happens here at DLS, you should sign up for our newsletter because it’s guess what? It’s free. free. 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Makes it really easy and it’s delivered right to your inbox five days a week. All dls.comnewsletter. Go sign up right now. All right, let’s talk about two things. won Stars DLS Stars Takeover. Led asked us last night, why are you guys talking about it? It’s already sold out. Why? Well, we’re kind of we’re kind of spiking the football a little bit. Yeah, we’re bragging. But we’re also trying to let you know and boy, trying to convince Luds that this made sense was not easy, folks. And you know this, we want people to see some extra value of being a diehard because if you sign up to be a diehard, you got early access to the DLS Stars Takeover ticket offer and most of our dieards jumped on that quickly and so there were only a few when we announced it publicly. So that’s why you sign up to be a diehard. That point was kind of lost on our two-time Stanley Cup champion, but that’s okay. That’s not why he’s here. Most of them are. But we also have a baller bonus. If you’re the die hard, you get 20% off merch. Go in there and spend 25 or to up to $250 in merchandise. Pick this week. That’s why it’s a big one. There’s some other ones there, too. Cowboys versus Panthers. If you get it right, you get a gift card for the same amount you spent. So, that’s literally doubling your money. You get a little extra because you get the Die Hard discount. It all makes sense. And by the way, the Die Hard sale ends Sunday night, as Sean said in the last one, at 11:59 p.m. So, you only have a couple more days to get either the $36 sale or the 59 with the DLS branded Bills hat. Okay, before we get to this super chat and some final talking points, Sean, the chat has been very much admiring your Detroit Tigers hat and they want to know where where you got it and what exactly it is. Uh, well, it’s I just bought it at a store at a uh it’s uh but it’s a new era it’s a new era hat if people are looking for the brand and I think they’ve made other black tan versions for other MLB teams too. So yeah, but uh Terrick Scooble pitches tonight against Seattle. So I would uh that’s the only benefit of there being segue Owen. That’s the only benefit of no NHL games tonight. 808 first pitch. Good point. Detroit Seattle. I can watch the baseball game. We’ll get to that. But we have a super chat first, then I’ll let you rant about that. So, go ahead and hit that super chat. Ryan, bing bang. Clarotus with a Lquist Rantin. Sammon Owen checked the discord. Need to get Mcah’s perspective on his call from game seven of the Drury penalty and Wyatt Johnston series clinching goal. I saw this when we were talking to Connor and I thought, okay, first of all, it’s going to take too much time to pull that up. Secondly, I don’t know if I want to ambush a good friend with his very passionate calls because Connor is very much an avalanche broadcaster when he does his radio calls and I’ve been next to him in the booth uh at American Airlines Center when things have not gone well and he he feels it, lives and breathes it. So, we’ll have to pull that up, take a look, and then maybe we’ll maybe we can even talk about that tomorrow, Sam, during the pre- or postgame show because I know you’re going to be in Denver, but we’ll get to that. So, thank you, Clarotus, for that super chat. All right, couple of talking points. Let’s start with the rant. Sean, you just mentioned it. There are no NHL games tonight. There were 14 games last night in the league and there will be a full slate of 16 games tomorrow night, but zero on the first Friday of the NHL regular season. It’s incredible scheduling. Well done. I mean, I just can’t can’t believe how anyone could have thought this was a good idea. I mean, the only reason that it makes any sense is maybe maybe the entire league thought Sam need we they all needed a Sam needed a travel day to get to Denver just in case, which is you’re not gonna miss any games tonight. That’s probably it. Yeah, you should probably get going right now, Sam. So, I uh I Where will be tomorrow? The fact that we had to like I understand the league wanting to have 16 games on the first Saturday. That’s fun. Everyone’s playing everything like that. But you didn’t need to do 14 on Thursday, right? You could have taken at least two. You could have at least taken How many teams played Sean back to backs to start the season? That seems nuts. Or like here’s the here’s the other thing. Montreal has I was talking to some some of the media members from the Canadians yesterday. Montreal’s got a three and four to start the season. And so they they went they went Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday. You could have played you could have played again. You could they could have played on Friday. If you’re if you’re going to force him to do a backtoback anyway, might as well do it Friday and get us like a like it’s it’s just it’s it’s a classic example of how often the NHL gets in its own way when it comes to certain marketing to approach it any and I’m not saying you needed a five, six, seven game schedule tonight. Just two or three games. Just give me one one early, one late. Yeah, exactly. just just kind of do that and make it so people can follow this momentum because it’s well at least you get to watch baseball unbothered by but I know what but from an NHL perspective that’s a mess. like from but you as a league and as as a as a as an entity really as a sport, you should be able to live in your own vacuum and be like, “Hey, you’re an NHL fan. There should be NHL games from October 6th through through uh basically there you should never go a day without an NHL game between October 6th and April 20th or whatever it is, right?” Like minus like their Christmas break. Yeah. Yeah. Like that’s Yeah. Well, that’s a good point. But that’s that should be something as a brand, as a entity or whatever. There’s always a game. There should always be a game. You should always be able someone should be I guarantee you there’s somebody somewhere who watched hockey last night and said, “You know what? This is pretty damn cool. I’ve got nothing to do Friday night. I’ll watch another game.” And now they can’t. And I like I just think there’s momentum that you need to build on as a league. and the league just always finds ways to give itself stumbling blocks that it just puts in itself. So, I don’t understand it. It’s whatever. Yeah. I used to work at the NHL league office and the games the nights where they had 14, 13, even the 16s were a lot of fun, right? You got a lot going on. It’s busy. There’s four games at the same time on one TV. It was it was chaos. And while you don’t need to do that every night, you can’t do that every night. the fact that they then have zero or one on a Friday night or a Sunday night or whatever it is. Sean said it perfectly and the other way of looking at it is you you have baseball, you have football, there’s other sports, college football, you don’t you put yourself in a spot where someone says, “Do I want to watch baseball or hockey or both?” Right? You’ve taken that out of the equation. Now people who are would have chosen hockey 100% like me who don’t watch baseball or people who are in between and maybe say I want to watch some of each now go okay the only thing on is this baseball game that’s what I’m going to settle on and then as Sean pointed out maybe a week from now they’re not even looking to see if there’s a hockey game on because I’m just going to watch baseball there probably not even any hockey on tonight. I think it’s the stupidest thing in the whole world. All right, rapid fire here guys. We got very few real quick. Hold on. Go ahead. Well, we got another I was just going to say, is there like I know baseball other than the day before and after the All-Star game. That’s the only day without a game in the baseball season, right? I don’t know how the NBA works on that, but we could ask you could ask one of our NBA guys on that. But like these sports that play these 82 plus 162 game schedules, you should have a game every day during your season. That’s that’s that’s what you should do. I agree with that. In the first week of the year. All right, rapid fire here. The LA Kings debuted a alternate jersey on their home opener against the Colorado Avalanche on Tuesday night with a little switcheroo move that drew a lot of positive support. They came out in their normal home jerseys which they went back to the Chevrolet looking logo last year. There’s Andre Kopitar. And then after the warm-up, they came out and wore these. And I’m not here to say whether you like the jerseys or not. I actually think they look great. I know that there were a lot of people, including some on the show, that did not like the silver helmets, especially on TV versus just a still shot, but the execution of the surprise was pretty cool. Well, last night we had it again because the Pittsburgh Penguins came out in their home black jerseys with yellow trim and then for the game they went with their new all yellow alternates. Yellow helmet should have given it away there, right? Cuz the Kings did not they had different helmets. They had different socks. Sean actually went and looked at that. They’re They did wear their other socks. These guys. I mean, so, okay, fine. You copied them. But now Colorado tweets this out today. Sean found this on Twitter, but right before the show. And look, we love the Nordics. That’s their history. They don’t, Sean, they don’t have a third jersey with the Nordiks logo, but it sure looks like after breezers on the pants and some other accutramonts, this is on the way. Are we going to start seeing the whole league do this? Well, I mean, do are is it safe to assume that there’s a higher than zero chance that the we’re watching a game where the Avalanche are wearing Nordique’s jerseys tomorrow night? I mean, that seems to be But it’s not their home opener, but it’s possible. I mean, but they already did their home opener, so like if you’re going to break in a jersey at some point, right? Like do it on Saturday night against the divisional rival. So, which I guess the big question this brings us back to for all three of us because it’s been I I enjoy how Brad has been just trying to be very koi about everything in his best possible way. But we all kind of it’s the whole like poorly kept secret of some point sometime somewhere there will be a third stars jersey that people can spend money on. And so is that is it going to be when Joe Pavvelski ding goes to step up and drop the the the ceremonial face off on Tuesday night. Is he going to be wearing a black? Is he Yep. I mean that’s that’s my that actually is better than if they just copied the Kings out as well cuz the the Kings did it. It was cool. The Penguins did it. You go, “Oh, okay.” But but they already did that. If anybody else does it, it get turns into the lame category. Colorado comes out tomorrow and they’re Nordisiks and the Stars unveil their third jersey on the road in Denver. That would be awful. I like the idea of having Pavvelski coming out with like a new jersey and surprising. That would be actually a really cool way to un players change on the ice Mighty Duck style. You don’t need to do that. We already did it. Oh yeah, we only we only need to do that once, right? Don’t do this the whole league. There’s the bell. We were waiting for it. Um, we don’t have time to do the wild ending to the San Jose Vegas game. That was crazy. Maybe we’ll save those and show it in the pregame tomorrow because it’s nuts. Check out my Twitter feed if you haven’t because the videos of the tying and winning goals for the Golden Knights is something else. Uh, and then Jonathan Jiren was suspended one game for crosschecking Connor Der last night. It’s a cross check to the face. It deserved it. Pregame show tomorrow night 7:30 ABS and Stars at 8. Sam will be in Denver. We hope LDS will be remote. Actually, we’re going to do a Streamyard broadcast, so we’ll all be remote. Big thank you to Conor McGee, for Sean, for Sam. I’m Owen, and of course, for Ryan 65, baby can say [Music] [Applause] like the mayor.

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The Dallas Stars opened up their 2025-26 season campaign with a 5-4 win over the Jets on Thursday night in Winnipeg. While it got a little nervy late in the game, when Dallas’ 5-1 lead began to evaporate, they ultimately held on for their first. We will have next day thoughts, along with Sean’s Two Cents about the game and some post game reaction from the dressing room. Also, a week ago, reports surfaced that the Dallas Stars may be considering moving away from American Airlines Center when their lease expires in 2031, instead building a new area in one of several DFW suburbs. Plus, Colorado Avalanche radio play-by-play announcer Conor McGahey will join us live from Denver to talk about Saturday’s showdown between the Stars and Avs at Ball Arena.

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