Same Script, Different Day as Seattle Mariners Drop SECOND STRAIGHT ALCS Game

The Blue Jays have returned serve and the ALCS is now knotted up at two games a piece. Colobby hit it. You are Locked on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network. Your team every day. Ohoy sailors. It is Thursday, October 16th, 2025. This is Tony Gonzalez and Kobe Patnode for the Lockdown Maris podcast, part of the Lockdown podcast network, your team every day. This episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if your bet wins, you’ll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Download the FanDuel app today. And as always, if you want to hear from me and Colobby more and help support the show, we have a Patreon called Control the Zone where we talk Mariners, Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com/controlthezone. Link in the description. Mariners fall in game four of the ALCS. This series is now tied up at two games a piece. The home team still hasn’t won a game in this series. Hopefully that changes tomorrow as will look to get back on top before heading back to Toronto. Uh we’ll talk about how this game followed a very similar script to last night’s game, all the mistakes and missed opportunities by the Mariners and look to what’s ahead. I’m fighting through a cold right now. Uh which is why you didn’t get a show last night. Uh I felt a bit better earlier today, but it’s starting to get bad again tonight. So yeah, I Yeah, if I feel uh or if I sound congested, that’s why. Uh anyway, uh obviously the the baseball isn’t helping me feel any better either. So, uh, yeah. Uh, yeah, I’m I’m not having a great time right now, folks. I’m not. Um, so yeah, the third inning crushes the Mariners again on top of a lot of other things, but it all starts with a third inning. I mean, this game pretty much following the same script as as last night. Didn’t get as out of hand tonight as it did last night, but pretty darn close. Uh it all starts it all starts with a uh you know a leadoff double from the Jay’s eight-hole hitter uh in the top in the top of the third and then that gets immediately followed up by a two-run home run off the bat of Andre Simenez. Same same exact thing that happened last night. Mars get an early home run. They get an early lead and then that happens and then the Blue Jays play add-on and the Mars can’t do really much of anything offensively as they continue a pretty rough postseason run uh offensively at T-Mobile Park. Uh so the Mariners lose 8-2 tonight and uh again we’ll we’ll talk about all the sloppy play and the missed opportunities but uh it really just starts with uh the fact that you just you got out executed in pretty much every way possible tonight. Yeah. I mean you uh you know you let Max Scherzer go five and two/3 or whatever against you. corpse of Max Scherzer uh really just dominate you. And it wasn’t like his stuff was incredible. He was in the middle of the plate at times and then you just, you know, when you fell behind O2 because you weren’t crushing the pitches in the middle, they expanded. Uh so really it’s two nights in a row with very few quality at bats uh in this game. And and the Blue Jays are a team that takes quality at bats basically every single time they go up there. They don’t give away outs. Um, you know, the way you kind of counteract that or the way the Mariners counteract that and the way that most teams try to counteract that is by hitting home runs. Well, the Blue Jays have about homerred you the last two games as well. So, they they’ve taken that uh club out of your bag. Uh, you know, and I said this back in the ALDS, you know, uh, that if the Blue Jays and the Brewers are going to start hitting tanks, they’re going to be very difficult to beat because that was kind of one of their only flaws uh, for a postseason team. And the Blue Jays have absolutely destroyed the Yankees and the last two games they’ve destroyed you. Uh, thanks in no small part to the home run ball. Uh, so, you know, it just it is what it is. There was absolutely sloppy play on the Mariners part tonight, but any way you want to slice it, the Blue Jays have just been significantly better than you the last two nights, just as you were significantly better than them the previous two nights. So, you know, uh it sucks. You’ve you’ve lost homefield advantage uh now and and you’re going to have to win at least one game in Toronto, maybe two, uh to advance, but uh that’s what happens. You know, you got you got destroyed. I mean, you really have no right to complain. you had everything you needed in front of you and you laid an egg in back-to-back nights and and top to bottom, you know. Um, so, you know, I I can’t say I’m too surprised that Toronto has come back to win these two games. Uh, I am quite a bit surprised by how lifeless the Mariners have have played, uh, particularly at the plate. Uh, but, uh, boy, you know, we talk a lot about teams struggling to hit at T-Mobile Park. The Blue Jays do not, especially this year. They have 29 hits in the last two games. Yeah. You know, they’ve hit all the home runs that you talked about. They’ve they’ve scored uh what 21 runs in these two games. Um not counting what they did back in the regular season as well where they crushed at this ballpark. So, the Blue Jays have figured way out a way to hit Mar T-Mobile Park. So, the Blue Jays, they’re five and0 at T-Mobile Park this year. The Mariners are four- one at Rogers Center. Both of those teams go five and one at each other’s ballparks. Hey, the Mariners go to the World Series. So, that’s one way to look at it. But, yeah, we’re seeing why this is uh or why this was ultimately a a coin flip series for me. Um you’re seeing both of these teams throwing haymakers at one another. Not really in particularly the same game as one another, but definitely throughout the series. Yeah. Um you know, again, the the Mariners uh dominated offensively. They got into double digit territory in the in the second game at Rogers Center. Now, you know, the Blue Jays get into double- digit territory yesterday. They nearly do so again tonight. Um, and once again, the team that had on paper the pitching disadvantage won. So, nothing about the series, like when you just look at the the specific matchups on paper, nothing about the series has really made a whole lot of sense other than the fact that the Mars have been really good at Rogers Center and uh and the Blue Jays have been really good at T-Mobile Park. Also, the team that has hit more home runs has won every game. Yeah. And and the other thing too is like we talked about this leading up to the series. The Blue Jays were the worst matchup for the Mariners in the in the American League bracket for this particular reason because they’re because the Mariners pitching does not line up well with this Jay’s offense. It doesn’t. It doesn’t. Like the Jays expose everything that the Mariners do wrong as a pitching staff and over these two games, we’ve seen that get exploited. So, yeah. I mean, did we expect it to be easy? Absolutely not. It’s the Mariners, right? They didn’t make the Tigers series easy. Easy. Why would they make this series easy? Didn’t have to be subway, though. No, no, no, it didn’t. It didn’t. But, uh, you know, we’re here now and, uh, the only thing to do now is is move forward. We’ll talk about that a little later on. But, uh, just want to talk more about, you know, some of the sloppy plays, some of the mistakes, uh, some of the missed opportunities, why things got as ugly as it did tonight. Also talk a little bit about Luis Castillo in just a moment. 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I wouldn’t say that that’s the only reason that they lost this game. I I I really think that this is kind of a matter of just like tipping your cap to the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays just straight up out executed you tonight. Uh but you definitely, you know, helped them out in some ways as well. Um you know, Leo Revas getting picked off with Cal Raleigh up to bat, Josh Naylor trying to leg it out to third and getting thrown out to end the inning. Yeah. in a situation where like him getting to third does not matter at all. You just need to continue to string hits together. Um so yeah, that killed any sort of momentum that the Mars were potentially building there because that made it five to2 on Gino’s RBI coming to the plate. Yeah, exactly. But then, you know, Vlatty hits the home run pretty much immediately after and there you go. That pretty much ended it. Um, so yeah, so there’s that and then there’s also uh the third inning again. Uh, just going back to that, you know, same script pretty much plays out. Eight-hole hitter for the Blue Jays leads things off with a double. This time it’s Isaiah Connor Falefa. Last night it was Ernie Clement. And then Andrea Simenez, one of the worst hitters in baseball this year, uh, hits another two-run home run. uh this time given the uh Blue Jays a one-run lead. Uh so I want to talk about Luis Castillo. What did you think about Castillo’s night and then the uh the decision to take him out? Yeah, started off pretty well. I mean, Swinger rocketed a ball. I don’t know what the exo was on it, but it looked like a double off the bat. I think it was 104.5. Yeah, thankfully, you know, Randy was well positioned. Um but yeah, for the most part, I thought he was okay. Okay. And then in the third inning, everything is just in the middle of the plate. And and I don’t mean like middle middle, but like pitch at the knees, it’s still in the middle of the plate. Pitch at the shoulders, it’s still in the middle of the plate. Nothing on the corners. Nothing in those, you know, up, down, left, right quadrants. Everything in in the middle quadrants uh of the plate. And the Blue Jays aren’t going to miss those pitches, you know, and we know Luis doesn’t have swing and miss stuff anymore. And even if he did, the Blue Jays don’t swing and miss that much. So, it was just bad control, bad command, uh, in that third. Um, and it is yet again three starters in a row now that have failed to give the Mariners more than nine outs. Uh, and you know, you do that three times in a row, I don’t really care how good your bullpin is, you’re you’re going to get exposed because even if these guys throw well, like they did in game two, that’s still more information the hitters in the box get from, you know, seeing these guys over and over and over again. So, we know that, you know, just look at the Tiger series. The more they saw Bazardo, the more they saw Spire, the better they looked against him, minus game five. Uh, so, you know, it it is a continuation of a problem. Uh, that being said, I don’t really know what Dan’s supposed to do uh with Castillo. There’s only one out. The bases are loaded. Uh, and he’s struggled, you know, and and he’s throwing a ton of pitches in this inning and everything’s kind of in the middle of the plate. So, you leave him in there uh to face Vario and Vario hits a home run, like the game’s over uh in the second, whereas you take him out and you know, Spire gives up a run, but manages to keep it at that. Uh you’re still in the game even though it felt like you kind of weren’t. Um so, I don’t really know what Dan’s supposed to do. It’s a tough spot when back-to-back starters give you nine outs and what Kirby give you, seven, eight. Um so, like you’re you’re just kind of in a no-win situation there. Um, yeah, I I thought maybe might have been a good time go to Spire, get the last out or two, and then try and start Brian Woo to kind of, you know, eat some innings here. Uh, and still give you a decent chance to stay in this ball game. But yeah, I don’t think Dan had very many good options. Um, you know, he went with Brash while the game was still technically winnable and, you know, brash fine minus the one pitch. Uh, that unfortunately led to another run. So, it’s just kind of one of those things. Dan, I I have no problem criticizing Dan Wilson. You guys know this. Uh, but tonight, I just I don’t really know what he’s supposed to do. Uh, I think the bigger question is, you know, Vargas in a four-run game, but you’d already used Spire, you’d already used uh, you know, you’d already used Brash and and obviously Bizaro’s pitched a ton and and that’s not a very likely winnable game. And they still used Bazardo and he gave up a run. Um, very rare for Bizardo to do that. But, uh, you know, so I just I don’t know what Dan’s supposed to do uh, in that situation. I don’t care if it’s the playoffs. I don’t care uh, you know, if it’s the regular season, but anytime I don’t care how many days off you have in between, anytime your bullpin has to cover, you know, six plus innings, three nights in a row. This is kind of the result you can expect. And the Mariners don’t have a bullpen that’s deep enough to do that under the best of circumstances against the Rockies, let alone, you know, a wagon like the Blue Jays. So, I don’t have a problem with him taking Luis out when he did. Again, there’s it’s a no-win situation there. Uh, you know, going to Brash was fine in the circum under the circumstances. Um, you know, again, I guess you could say going to Vargas, but you’ve already used Brash, you’ve already used Spire, so it’s do you want to use Bazardo for two innings and possibly not have him tomorrow? Do you want to use Munoz for two innings when you’re down by four? Like, I I don’t know. And who’s the next best guy after those four? It It’s Vargas, unfortunately. And and so, um, and I don’t think Vargas was was terrible tonight, but like it is what it is. So, uh, I don’t really have a big problem with anything Dan did. uh per se. I think he was just in a tight in a tough spot for the third night in a row and he’s just kind of trying to manage this thing as best he can and I just I don’t think they gave him very many good options. It’s just this Blue Jays team is built so well to exploit your specific weaknesses and we’re just seeing that play out. Like it’s just as simple as that. Uh can you circumvent that? Absolutely. you did it in games one and games two, but sometimes yeah, they are going to get you and tonight we’ve seen the absolute extreme of that, you know, the last two games. So, um yeah, I mean I I don’t I don’t really blame Dan for for what he did. Like I I think going to Spire in that situation makes all the sense of the world. I I you know, had he not done that and Castillo gives up a couple runs, I think we’d be, you know, calling for Dan’s head to, you know, on this show, right? Like so, you know, it just it it is what it is, right? Like sometimes you make these decisions, you make very difficult decisions, you make very aggressive decisions and they don’t pay off. But that’s kind of what the playoffs are. And I I felt like the job. Yeah. And I kind of feel and I feel like Dan at the end of the day handled that about as well as he could have. It’s just his players didn’t execute right. You have half of your bullpen is guys you don’t trust. And that’s fine so long as your starters can give you five or six every single night. When they give you three or less three nights in a row, you have to use some of those guys you don’t trust, you just have to. And you know, even when you don’t use those guys that you don’t trust, you know, you’re still using the guys you do trust and they’re pitching every single game. And even if they are somewhat well rested because of all the off days built in, these guys are still seeing them every single game that they’re easier to pick up. you see the same pitcher throw five days in a row, you’re going to pick up some stuff that you wouldn’t notice in game one. So, uh, you know, ultimately I I think, you know, not to go back to this, but like they didn’t do enough at the in the bullpen at the deadline and, you know, we we talked about it then, we’ve talked about it the entire time throughout and you didn’t give Dan kind of a foolproof bullpen and Dan a well and and the one guy that you did go out and get is kind of unusable right now. I mean, like, look, Luke Jackson, Emerson Hancock, and Caleb Ferguson. They’re the white flag guys, which means you have Vargas, who’s kind of the in between guy. Uh, and then you have your four studs who burning them in a four with a four-run deficit. Like, you can do it sometimes, but you can’t do it in back-to-back nights. Especially when, you know, you have a guy going tomorrow, Bryce Miller. Who knows how long Bryce he gave you he looked good in the playoffs so far, don’t get me wrong, but like it’s just one of those things like Bryce is still battling through his own issues that he’s battled through all year, you know, and you have Brian Woo who’s never pitched out of the bullpen before. Uh, and you’re kind of trying to figure out how to bring him into this equation. So, there just aren’t a lot of good options for Dan Wilson to go to outside of those four guys. And he used those four guys tonight, I would say, appropriately. Yeah. And I have no interest in burning Woo in a game like this, even when it was five to two, frankly. Uh because I’m gonna need Woo at some point in the series. And this was not the do or die game. Like it would have been great to have it, but uh this was this is not the game to do that in. I might I might need Woo tomorrow. I might need Woo to start game six if I’m down 3-2 like Yeah. So, uh yeah, I don’t I don’t really put any of the blame of this one on on Dan, frankly. I think this is just on the guys for just getting out executed by the Blue Jays, right? And you know, maybe if we were fast forwarded a year from now and it’s like, well, you have SA and Kate Anderson and so you don’t need to go out and get those guys at the bullpen to build an eight-man bullpen. Uh, but you weren’t there. You were at a spot where you had a four-man bullpen and and you chose not to add to it. And now you’re kind of seeing why that’s a problem. And also obviously Woo getting hurt is a big part of this because I’m sure part of the plan was we’ll put Bryce Miller in the bullpen and he’ll probably stuff will play up and and you can see why they thought that based on how Price has looked in the playoffs this year. So uh but you know things happen. The Woo injury certainly is has you know made an impact on on how the Mariners pitching has gone but also the Mariners pitching just hasn’t executed and the Blue Jays are making them pay for just about every mistake they make. So you know it it we can search for excuses. We could search for even explanations, but at the end of the day, it’s very very simple. It’s the 26 guys in that in that clubhouse right now, the guys who put on the uniform and go out on the field every day. Yeah. They’ve gotten their butts kicked the last two nights playing there. There is no further explanation needed. They’ve played terribly. The Blue Jays have played well. They’ve gotten blown out as a result. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s one thing to just get straight up beat. It’s another to also help that team out. Like I I don’t think that the Mariners have lost these two games just because they’ve like shot themselves in the foot repeatedly. No, they certainly have. They certainly haven’t helped things. I just think they’re straight up getting smoked by a very very good Blue Jays team, right? And this was bound to happen. It to me it doesn’t really say anything about the future of this series because again, we’ve seen the Mariners work around this in games one and two. It’s just it’s a best on best. I mean, we are at the point in the year where and and sometimes it a lot of the times actually it doesn’t really work out like this, but this year specifically the two best teams of the American League are playing one another. Yep. In the ALCS and like so the Blue Jays are just going to get theirs. That’s just going to happen. Yep. So, you know, it’s just you got to brush it off and you got to move on and uh you got to you got to get back after it, you know, in game five. And we’ll talk more about that in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Mars podcast is brought to you by Price Picks. This episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by Prize Picks, the daily fantasy app where making the right call can actually pay off. You and I make decisions every day, but on prize picks, being right means cashing in. With football back, prize picks is the simplest and fastest way to get in on the action. Just pick more or less on two to six player projections, and you can turn your takes into real prizes, all in less than 60 seconds. It’s quick, easy, and a great way to follow along with football. Download the Price Fix app today and use the promo code locked on MLB to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That’s promo code Loc K D O N MLB for $50 in lineups after your first $5 play. Price picks. It’s good to be right. And you’re listening to the Lock Times podcast. So game five between the Mars and the Blue Jays tomorrow. M’s trying to salvage one game at T-Mobile Park. They won’t be able to clench their first ever trip to the World Series if they’re going to do that at T-Mobile Park. That’s going to have to happen in Toronto now that they’ve lost these first two games at home. Uh but still great opportunity uh right in front of the Mariners here uh because they won those first two games in Toronto. They’re still only two wins away from making it to the World Series. And again, you know, the Blue Jays are going to get theirs. You’re going to get yours because you’re the two best teams remaining in the American League. You’re just two very good teams that do it in very different ways. And and that’s why maybe we’ve seen the extremes that we’ve seen so far in this series. But there’s no time to dwell on what’s happened these last two games. You know, that’s for like people like us to do, but for the players, you can’t dwell on this. What you absolutely can’t afford to do here is start to press. You were in a very similar position to this, you know, last series where where Yeah. Game four, you had a great opportunity, a very convenient way to to win that series and make a quick trip up to Toronto and you got smoked and you had to go back to Seattle and you had to face school and you had to play 15 innings. You didn’t know that at the time, but you know, you had to overcome all of those obstacles in order to even get to this point to even have the chance to, you know, be two games away, two wins away from going to the World Series. And he did it because, you know, after that game four, what did we hear from the players? Hey, like we’re just on to game five. Like, whatever happened happened. You know, that’s done now. Nothing we can do about it. We just have to focus on game five and getting the job done. And that’s the same position that you’re in now where like you missed out on a great, very easy opportunity to put this series to bed. You got smoked, you got punched in the mouth, and now it feels like the odds are against you because now you’re going to have to go back to Toronto and uh the Blue Jays rotation has been reset and they have all the momentum and they just scored 21 runs on 29 hits against you over the last few games, all that. But you beat these guys twice. You can absolutely beat them again. just, you know, to to use a very, you know, cheesy cliche here, you literally just have to take it one game at a time right now. I’m getting in my Russell Wilson bag right now, but like, yeah, like, but seriously, like that’s that’s that’s how you have to approach this thing now is like the only game that matters is the next one. Yeah. I mean, there there’s really not a I mean, there’s just really not a uh an option but to do that like um so you know to have that attitude it tomorrow’s game is or yeah tomorrow and as we’re recording this at least tomorrow’s game is pivotal you know and and it cannot be understated uh I just looked it up since 1985 uh there have been 28 sevengame series that have been tied after four games the winner of game five has has won 18 of those 28 series. So, it’s about a two to two out of three uh swing there. Uh and the reasons why are obvious, right? You only need one win in the next two days, not two. You kind of have uh the other team has to throw everything they’ve got as Tai is losing along. Uh you know, the other team has to throw everything they’ve got in game six and do they have enough left over for game seven? So, like while it’s not impossible to win back-to-back games to, you know, go to the World Series, uh it is historically unlikely. Uh, is this one of those teams that could buck the trend and and lose game five and and still win this series? Sure. Of course they can. Um, if any team would do it, it would probably be them. Sure. Is it something you want to deal with? No, absolutely not. So, uh, tomorrow’s game is absolutely pivotal and and you know, it’s just funny because like even if the Mariners win tomorrow’s I’m like, okay, well, I mean that’s great, but like still 33% chance they lose this series. And if the Mariners lose tomorrow, I’m like, well, it’s over. they only have a 33% chance to win the series. So, uh you know, it’s just life of a Mariners fan. Uh sometimes, uh hopefully these guys bounce back quicker than we do, but the last two days have been rough. There’s no doubt about it. And now I assume you’re going up against Gossman. I don’t think Schneider’s made an official announcement yet, but I assume you’re going up against Gossman and you’re countering him with uh with Bryce. So, it is a game one rematch. Um and we’ll see what version of Bryce Miller we get. Do we get playoff Bryce Miller who’s been very very good outside of the first inning in Toronto or do we get regular season Bryce Miller who was terrible and and you’re already going back to Toronto down three to2 if you get that version. So uh yeah, a lot riding on tomorrow’s game. It’s critically important. It’s huge. It’s huge and I just hope that the the Good Mariners show up and um at the very least get a competitive baseball game out of this thing. like you can’t get blown out all three times, you know, at home, uh, you know, needing just two wins to go to the World Series. Like it again, like it would just be a very sour way to to end the season. uh if you were to, you know, lose this series after going up 200 and getting swept at home on on the way to doing it, it would just be a tough pill to swallow, especially when the the fans have, you know, given you everything they’ve had over the last, you know, month or so and and they want it more than, you know, any fan base out there and and it just it would stink to not be able to to provide it for them. But, you know, sometimes that’s baseball and that’s just the life way in the life of most fan bases. But, you especially so Mariner fans. So, uh they’ll they’ll bounce back. I have no doubt about that. The Mariners fans that is. I don’t know if the team can bounce back. Uh but I I don’t like betting against them because it seems like every time I do, uh they turn it around. Then again, I never said they should sell at the deadline. So, I have that going for me at the very least. Maybe I should say that again. I mean, I’m just going to tell you right now, Ty, and I said this after game one of the ALDS, there’s no path forward for the Mariners to win this series. All right. All right. All right. And they should sell. It’s what’s best for the future of the organization. By the way, uh we didn’t talk about the lineup change that was made tonight. Uh kind of a weird night for Revas because he did draw a walk and then he got picked off, but he also had a couple balls that probably are hits against most other teams. But the Blue Jays are just really good defensive out in the outfield. So kind of a weird night for Revos. He had one of the biggest boooos, but he also had some of the best at bats. So we’ll see if he’s in there tomorrow. Uh no Robles tonight. Kenzone did get a hit, but like God, he looks so terrible. Uh so again, we’ll see if Roles gets in the game tomorrow. Uh I still think he’s probably has a little bit of a hip problem when he crashed into the wall the other day. So we’ll see if he’s in there against uh Gossman, but I I think Revas has probably earned another start again, recognizing that he made probably the second biggest error of this game. Uh but you know, Josh Naylor went three for three and he made the biggest error of the game, so we’re going to forgive him. So, might as well forget Reboss, too. Roughly the same quality of player. So, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I think this is I think this is Naylor’s fifth three hit game in the last like eight. Incredible. You have to resign him. I mean, I don’t I don’t think you have much of a choice. I mean, I don’t I know that they’re not going to do it, but and I know that it it creates a lot of problems, but I I don’t know if you can go down with Randy Rosena in the leadoff spot for much longer, but I just I again, we talked about this. I really don’t know if there’s a better option, unfortunately. But we’ll see if Dan makes any more changes, but I I I pretty I doubt it. I think also making a bunch of changes kind of signifies you’re panicking. Maybe you should panic. might be time to This is the perfect time to panic. To to quote Woody from Toy Story, this is the perfect time to panic. Yeah. Yeah. Uh but I don’t think maybe after tomorrow is the perfect time to to panic, but like Yeah. Yeah. Things aren’t great right now, guys. There’s no way for us to spin this. And and like the best spent I can give you is that like, well, it’s a best of three now, and if you win tomorrow, historically speaking, you have a 67% chance to win the series. But that that’s the best I can give you. Well, yeah, the the the good vibes that you built in the first two games, they’re pretty much gone cuz like Yeah, the the the Blue Jays return serve. They essentially did the same exact thing to you that you did to them. Yeah. Now, they could do something even worse to you tomorrow if they went, you know, but uh but yeah, the the spin is is pretty simple here, right? Like those two games that you won in Toronto are still banked. You’re still only two wins away from the World Series and now you’re in and and you’re going to play two of those games at a ballpark that you’ve been very good at. Very good mobile park up until the last two days. Well, this whole postseason you haven’t been particularly good there offensively speaking. So, so maybe it’s a good thing that they’re going to be leaving T-Mobile Park here soon. The only the only wins you have at T-Mobile Park this postseason have both come against Terubel. That is the most Mariner stat in the history of Mariner stats. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the spin is simple here. And look, you win tomorrow, like you feel pretty good about it because then you get one clear shot at it in game six. And then, you know, if it has to go to a game seven, which it probably will because this is the Mariners we’re talking about. Even if they lose tomorrow, it’s probably going to go to a game seven because this is the Mars we’re talking about. Like, they would absolutely put us in the most stressful possible position. And honestly, that would be, you know, losing tomorrow and then winning game six somehow, like late in game six. By the way, going to extras in game seven. Yeah. And then going to extras in game seven. I just I’m not sure what’s more Mariner winning in extra innings in game seven to on like a wild pitch or something weird like that or like a a pitch clock timer violation on Vlatty with the bases loaded and a two strike count and that’s how you advance or something weird like that. Would that be more mariner or would it be more mariner for them to just get smoked the next two games and blow a two nothing lead being outscored like 48 to4 in those four games? Not this Mariners team. Yeah, but most Mariner teams. Most Mariners teams, but not this Well, most Mariners teams wouldn’t get to this point. That’s true. So, we’ll see. Yeah. I mean, like, again, I I ride with them to the end, but uh there’s no sugar coating it. It’s been it’s been a rough 48 hours. Yeah. I don’t know. Something tells me that it’s, you know, it’s going to go the same way that the Detroit series went and how the season has gone where it looks so over and then, oh my god, we’re so back. But eventually that has to run out, right? Or does it? You would think. Or does it? That’s going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lock Maris podcast. For Kobe Patode, I’m Teddy Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at l_mmers. You can follow me at Teddy Gonzalez and Colby at CPAT 11. That’s CPAT11. We’re also on Blue Sky. You can follow me at TDG, Colby at MLB Kobe and the show at Lockdowns. 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23 comments
  1. not a mariners fan but rooting for yall, wtf is good with geno? Bro was a great hitter to start off the year and he’s completely vanished, his performance is basically at a zero in terms of production

  2. This series feels tied in the same manner Atlanta Falcons fans probably felt going into OT against the Patriots in the SB. Yeah it’s tied, but holy shit it feels bleak.

  3. Can’t blame Dan for this. We have one of the best crop of starting pitchers in baseball, but that is only the case if the guys can show up in the post season, and so far, they haven’t with the exception of Bryce miller

  4. Cal is not MVP worthy and this team can't handle the spotlight Seattle won the first two because no one expected them to. But when the spotlight is on them brightly they almost all fold . Look at the post season box scores the only players shining in the box are Naylor and Polanco. Cal, Julio, Randy Geno, Dom Canzone, JP have all been terrible especially under the brightest spot lights at home. Your starting pitching outside of Miller has been single A quality at best and your non high leverage bullpen has been even worse. Everyone laughed when after game 2 Harold Reynolds predicted the Blue Jays in 6 yet here we are and that seems to be the most likely outcome. Dan Wilson needs to go and so do at least half of the current roster after the season. We know that won't happen so all I can wish is that Naylor and Polanco both sign with someone else who can give them a real shot at winning it all during their careers, because I seriously doubt the Mariners will even make the WS in my lifetime let alone win it.

  5. Most people have mentioned Randy and Geno being ass, but remind me has Canzone gotten one hit yet? Some of these players doing their best disappearing acts at the worst time could really eff up this whole thing.

  6. The Mariners looked absolutely pathetic and lost the last two games.
    Jays are playing a tactical game and stringing together hits while half the Mariners lineup hasn’t even showed up this entire series.
    Suarez needs to be benched and Randy is a terrible lead off hitter.
    Maybe it’s not too late for Wilson to make some adjustments.

  7. I thought the Mariners, Dodgers, Phillies and Brewers were a bad matchup for the Jays. First two game bore that out. Research, Jays tough at T Mobile Park, now 5-0. Who ever plays well at home wins. Looks like who ever plays well on the road wins. Jay bats have been crazy good in the playoff except for 2 games against Mariners. It's interesting to see these 1977 twins go at it to see who has built a better team for playoff success. I am surprised the Mariners don't have a chip given the star power they've had over the years including a 116-46 (2001) win team! Yikes!

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