If this is true that’s such an offensively low offer from the Tigers
There’s no way tigers offered Skubal 4/100 last year
Tell me he’s getting traded without telling me he’s getting traded
Being honest here, if they get a solid return for they should trade him during the Winter meetings. Cause he is gone.
That doesn’t even qualify as the whole negotiating tactic of starting low and building up. That’s just offensive and a non starter.
4 years, $100 million isn’t horrible. It would have bought out two years of arbitration. He made $10.1 million this year and will make around $17 million next year. That really makes the offer two years at $36.5 million a year and lets him get another huge contract at age 30.
It isn’t a great offer but it isn’t horrible for a guy who, at that point, had one great year after three good years.
The fact the deal started during arbitration rather than after does make the financials a bit better – he only made $10m in 2025 so the effective raise for ending arb early is higher
But still. Not so sure boras is the major problem here like many fans wanted to think
Time to bring back the $5 Hot and Ready Pizza’s pizza boy.
You talk about wanting to keep your top prospects, well here is your prized prospect. Drafted by you, now the top of his position. Time to pay the man.
Sad that it’s playing out this way, but can’t say that I’m surprised.
I trust no reporting about contract negotiations until a deal is signed.
Honestly this is good news. If they’re $250 million apart after offering so little, then Skubal must be demanding less than we’d assumed. I can imagine a $350 million deal for him. Wouldn’t be able to imagine a $500 million deal.
Imagine how an insulting offer like this looks to other free agents.
Guessing the Tigers are going to lobby hard for a salary cap to kick in as part of the next CBA so they can put a cap on Skubal’s contract after having him crush it on a bargain contract the last two years.
Sell the team if you don’t want to win. Its just money, Chris. You didn’t even have to earn yours the hard way so you should feel less of an attachment to it than your dad did.
Max Scherzer all over again with the major lowball.
4×100 is obviously an asinine, stupid, joke of a number (would have put him around 10th highest paid pitcher) but that’s why I thought the report of being 250 mil apart was a stupid headline. That makes it sound like they met yesterday and that’s how far off they were
It is funny that the narrative around this was with a recent offer the Tigers were $250 mil away when the offer is over a year old at this point. Classic Boras spin.
If it was last year, I don’t really care…
Clearly Tarik bet on himself and came out and dominated again. I don’t blame them for not offering everything on a breakout season. Now he’s sustained it another year, so offer him more.
He’ll easily surpass Yamamoto’s 325mil contract amount in the open market so can’t blame him for rejecting 4yrs 100m offer
Not a serious organization
He gone
Corbin Burnes style trade is the only thing that makes sense for the tigers… and that makes me sad. Even though Milwaukee showed it works.
Baseball salaries are so dumb. The teams have control over the players for 7 years and are able to keep the salaries low. Then when the Great players get to free agency they complain because the players want so much money.
Welp. Its been fun, Skub. Maybe we will follow you wherever you go since the tigers arent a serious franchise. That offer is a fucking joke that only s fucking joke of a franchise would even put on the table.
This is of course assuming that this information is even accurate. It could be total BS/propaganda or just misreporting.
If this is true and we offered Skubal that, then WE aren’t serious. Chris Illitch is a joke
Just cool all the talk. No one really knows the details of the offer. Besides this is just starting
Deal won’t be finished for another year. You know Boras won’t take any deal right now no matter the offer
But I would be cautious about a long term deal like 10 years. Skubal. Is already 28. 10 years deal would probably end like Miggys with lower performance for higher pay
I know no one is going to stop talking about it for at least another year, or until something happens, but I’m already so tired of hearing about this shit lol.
I’ve already accepted that they’re not going to resign him. And if you can’t go deeper than 6 innings in an alds game 5 at age 28 you’re not worth $500 million or whatever anyways. You’re better off using that money to sign multiple good players. If they do end up signing him I’ll be glad cause he is good and it’s not my money, but I’m not gonna be broken up over it if they don’t.
Either surround him with talent and go all in in 2026 (which is what I’m hoping, but doubting they do) or trade him for whatever shitty return you can get now that he only has one year of team control left.
The amount of money we are talking about here is absurd. Gonna have to trade him.
This was a) before his 2025 season, where he REALLY confirmed that last year wasn’t just an artificial peak b) before Crochet’s deal reset the standard for an extension. It’s a bit of a lowball, but Boras was always going to push free agency. If Skubal hit FA last year at, he would not have received $400m. It’s not fair to weigh an extension from last year with an impending FA that just got better. I think this is a overhyped comparing 2 different things.
If we don’t pay our best homegrown talent since Verlander, then it’s gonna be hard for me to watch this team. You drafted and developed this guy, reward him or you’ll never be taken seriously again
Boras is OTP with Mets, Dodgers, Yankees, I could see Atlanta, maybe Cubs; asking, “hypothetically…”
I hate to say this cause I really like Skubal. However, it’s over. He’s gone and I don’t blame him at all. That being said, we have him for one more year. Let’s keep him for the last year and see what we can do. Get a few bats and maybe we can win an AL championship before he heads to LA or NY.
What people forget is that before his last surgery, he was an average pitcher. He started to show signs of what he could become in 2022 before he got hurt, improving every year. When he was rehabbing, he developed his changeup, which was a game changer. After 2024, he was a pitcher that only had 2 full seasons in the majors with a major arm surgery and 2 years of arbitration left. 4/40 is a solid offer for a player with really only 1.5 of dominance at that point. He bet on himself by not taking the offer, and it paid off. I’m sure the Tigers will sit down with him and talk, but I also don’t see him signing an extension. Boras will take whatever deal the Tigers offer and use it to get a better one. He will get 10/450 from someone, which will most likely age very poorly after about year 5 of that deal. Should the Tigers trade him? If they get a good return, which would have to include at least 1 MLB ready pitcher plus a couple of other really good players. Baseball is a business and sometimes that sucks for fans, but there are no bad guys here. Detroit does not have the revenue to pay the superstar contracts, and its ok to be upset about that as a fan. Skubal has the right to take care of his family the best way he sees fit. He can love Detroit, the fans, the team all he wants, but he has a chance to set his family up for generations. He would be silly to not take it
Stories like this always come out before a major transaction like a trade. Teams and/or agents feed it to the media to contextualize a separation.
I’d be stunned to see Skubal pitching for us in April.
Look man. I’ve accepted he’s gone. I’d much rather get something in return than have him throw on the BorasCorp hat after next season ends and lose him for nothing. I think the Mets are the only team that’ll be willing to give Boras what he wants. So start a bidding war. If you’re a sicko like me who follows prospects closely, you know there are several teams that can make great offers and the Mets are one of them.
It sucks. It won’t be an easy pill to swallow. But I’m not giving $500MM+ to a guy who can’t go more than 100 pitches on a given night. The season was on the line and he agreed to be pulled at 99 pitches. I haven’t been able to shake how crazy that is since it happened. It’s a fickle game with pitchers though. Obviously his major surgeries are behind him, but there’s always the chance his contract turns into a Strasburg situation. So you better make damn sure you get a ring out of it like the Nats did.
I think we need to move past skubal
This is the time for Chris Illitch to prove everybody wrong, ffs.
It’s hard to wrap my head around baseball’s salaries anymore.
I’m not saying it’s fair or unfair but I’m just a blue collar worker so what do I know.
I think it’s a fools errand to try to judge based on breadcrumbs of information. No one on this board was in the room. I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to the people that are doing the negotiating. We have no idea what they came back with as a counter if anything. Crochet got a similar average value on an extension, but it was 6yrs not 4. And that set the market. I find it very hard to believe the Tigers wouldn’t have matched or exceeded that if that was the ask.
8 years 300 mil with team option the last 2 years.
Either make a real offer or use that money to go out and get the pieces you need to win next year. You’re not making a run without him.
Gonna have to mute Skubal name until February
Why do I get the feeling that when yesterday’s leak came out about how they were $250 million apart when it cane to contract negotiations, that they were comparing this 2024 offer to what Skubal wants right now
1) Pay Skubal what he wants
2) Skubal gets injured next year
3) Team sucks because we blew all our money on one player
Skubal success comes from his High velocity (touching 100) and devastating changeup combo. His secondary pitches don’t give me confidence he can sustain his dominance unless he develops them into the same level of his FB and changeup. Especially when he gets older and possibly lose velocity. I could be wrong. But do you really wanna pay someone that already had injury history and pitches max effort every outing? I don’t think this is like a Max Scherzer scenario, where we will regret it if we don’t sign him. Max had a crazy arsenal and no injury history. We are most likely getting Skubal during his peak years. I want him, just not for 10 years. The tigers is smart for offering this deal.
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If this is true that’s such an offensively low offer from the Tigers
There’s no way tigers offered Skubal 4/100 last year
Tell me he’s getting traded without telling me he’s getting traded
Being honest here, if they get a solid return for they should trade him during the Winter meetings. Cause he is gone.
That doesn’t even qualify as the whole negotiating tactic of starting low and building up. That’s just offensive and a non starter.
4 years, $100 million isn’t horrible. It would have bought out two years of arbitration. He made $10.1 million this year and will make around $17 million next year. That really makes the offer two years at $36.5 million a year and lets him get another huge contract at age 30.
It isn’t a great offer but it isn’t horrible for a guy who, at that point, had one great year after three good years.
The fact the deal started during arbitration rather than after does make the financials a bit better – he only made $10m in 2025 so the effective raise for ending arb early is higher
But still. Not so sure boras is the major problem here like many fans wanted to think
Time to bring back the $5 Hot and Ready Pizza’s pizza boy.
You talk about wanting to keep your top prospects, well here is your prized prospect. Drafted by you, now the top of his position. Time to pay the man.
Sad that it’s playing out this way, but can’t say that I’m surprised.
I trust no reporting about contract negotiations until a deal is signed.
Honestly this is good news. If they’re $250 million apart after offering so little, then Skubal must be demanding less than we’d assumed. I can imagine a $350 million deal for him. Wouldn’t be able to imagine a $500 million deal.
Imagine how an insulting offer like this looks to other free agents.
Guessing the Tigers are going to lobby hard for a salary cap to kick in as part of the next CBA so they can put a cap on Skubal’s contract after having him crush it on a bargain contract the last two years.
Sell the team if you don’t want to win. Its just money, Chris. You didn’t even have to earn yours the hard way so you should feel less of an attachment to it than your dad did.
Max Scherzer all over again with the major lowball.
4×100 is obviously an asinine, stupid, joke of a number (would have put him around 10th highest paid pitcher) but that’s why I thought the report of being 250 mil apart was a stupid headline. That makes it sound like they met yesterday and that’s how far off they were
It is funny that the narrative around this was with a recent offer the Tigers were $250 mil away when the offer is over a year old at this point. Classic Boras spin.
If it was last year, I don’t really care…
Clearly Tarik bet on himself and came out and dominated again. I don’t blame them for not offering everything on a breakout season. Now he’s sustained it another year, so offer him more.
He’ll easily surpass Yamamoto’s 325mil contract amount in the open market so can’t blame him for rejecting 4yrs 100m offer
Not a serious organization
He gone
Corbin Burnes style trade is the only thing that makes sense for the tigers… and that makes me sad. Even though Milwaukee showed it works.
Baseball salaries are so dumb. The teams have control over the players for 7 years and are able to keep the salaries low. Then when the Great players get to free agency they complain because the players want so much money.
Welp. Its been fun, Skub. Maybe we will follow you wherever you go since the tigers arent a serious franchise. That offer is a fucking joke that only s fucking joke of a franchise would even put on the table.
This is of course assuming that this information is even accurate. It could be total BS/propaganda or just misreporting.
If this is true and we offered Skubal that, then WE aren’t serious. Chris Illitch is a joke
Just cool all the talk. No one really knows the details of the offer. Besides this is just starting
Deal won’t be finished for another year. You know Boras won’t take any deal right now no matter the offer
But I would be cautious about a long term deal like 10 years. Skubal. Is already 28. 10 years deal would probably end like Miggys with lower performance for higher pay
I know no one is going to stop talking about it for at least another year, or until something happens, but I’m already so tired of hearing about this shit lol.
I’ve already accepted that they’re not going to resign him. And if you can’t go deeper than 6 innings in an alds game 5 at age 28 you’re not worth $500 million or whatever anyways. You’re better off using that money to sign multiple good players. If they do end up signing him I’ll be glad cause he is good and it’s not my money, but I’m not gonna be broken up over it if they don’t.
Either surround him with talent and go all in in 2026 (which is what I’m hoping, but doubting they do) or trade him for whatever shitty return you can get now that he only has one year of team control left.
The amount of money we are talking about here is absurd. Gonna have to trade him.
This was a) before his 2025 season, where he REALLY confirmed that last year wasn’t just an artificial peak b) before Crochet’s deal reset the standard for an extension. It’s a bit of a lowball, but Boras was always going to push free agency. If Skubal hit FA last year at, he would not have received $400m. It’s not fair to weigh an extension from last year with an impending FA that just got better. I think this is a overhyped comparing 2 different things.
If we don’t pay our best homegrown talent since Verlander, then it’s gonna be hard for me to watch this team. You drafted and developed this guy, reward him or you’ll never be taken seriously again
Boras is OTP with Mets, Dodgers, Yankees, I could see Atlanta, maybe Cubs; asking, “hypothetically…”
I hate to say this cause I really like Skubal. However, it’s over. He’s gone and I don’t blame him at all. That being said, we have him for one more year. Let’s keep him for the last year and see what we can do. Get a few bats and maybe we can win an AL championship before he heads to LA or NY.
What people forget is that before his last surgery, he was an average pitcher. He started to show signs of what he could become in 2022 before he got hurt, improving every year. When he was rehabbing, he developed his changeup, which was a game changer. After 2024, he was a pitcher that only had 2 full seasons in the majors with a major arm surgery and 2 years of arbitration left. 4/40 is a solid offer for a player with really only 1.5 of dominance at that point. He bet on himself by not taking the offer, and it paid off. I’m sure the Tigers will sit down with him and talk, but I also don’t see him signing an extension. Boras will take whatever deal the Tigers offer and use it to get a better one. He will get 10/450 from someone, which will most likely age very poorly after about year 5 of that deal. Should the Tigers trade him? If they get a good return, which would have to include at least 1 MLB ready pitcher plus a couple of other really good players. Baseball is a business and sometimes that sucks for fans, but there are no bad guys here. Detroit does not have the revenue to pay the superstar contracts, and its ok to be upset about that as a fan. Skubal has the right to take care of his family the best way he sees fit. He can love Detroit, the fans, the team all he wants, but he has a chance to set his family up for generations. He would be silly to not take it
Stories like this always come out before a major transaction like a trade. Teams and/or agents feed it to the media to contextualize a separation.
I’d be stunned to see Skubal pitching for us in April.
Look man. I’ve accepted he’s gone. I’d much rather get something in return than have him throw on the BorasCorp hat after next season ends and lose him for nothing. I think the Mets are the only team that’ll be willing to give Boras what he wants. So start a bidding war. If you’re a sicko like me who follows prospects closely, you know there are several teams that can make great offers and the Mets are one of them.
It sucks. It won’t be an easy pill to swallow. But I’m not giving $500MM+ to a guy who can’t go more than 100 pitches on a given night. The season was on the line and he agreed to be pulled at 99 pitches. I haven’t been able to shake how crazy that is since it happened. It’s a fickle game with pitchers though. Obviously his major surgeries are behind him, but there’s always the chance his contract turns into a Strasburg situation. So you better make damn sure you get a ring out of it like the Nats did.
I think we need to move past skubal
This is the time for Chris Illitch to prove everybody wrong, ffs.
It’s hard to wrap my head around baseball’s salaries anymore.
I’m not saying it’s fair or unfair but I’m just a blue collar worker so what do I know.
I think it’s a fools errand to try to judge based on breadcrumbs of information. No one on this board was in the room. I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to the people that are doing the negotiating. We have no idea what they came back with as a counter if anything. Crochet got a similar average value on an extension, but it was 6yrs not 4. And that set the market. I find it very hard to believe the Tigers wouldn’t have matched or exceeded that if that was the ask.
8 years 300 mil with team option the last 2 years.
Either make a real offer or use that money to go out and get the pieces you need to win next year. You’re not making a run without him.
Gonna have to mute Skubal name until February
Why do I get the feeling that when yesterday’s leak came out about how they were $250 million apart when it cane to contract negotiations, that they were comparing this 2024 offer to what Skubal wants right now
1) Pay Skubal what he wants
2) Skubal gets injured next year
3) Team sucks because we blew all our money on one player
Skubal success comes from his High velocity (touching 100) and devastating changeup combo. His secondary pitches don’t give me confidence he can sustain his dominance unless he develops them into the same level of his FB and changeup. Especially when he gets older and possibly lose velocity. I could be wrong. But do you really wanna pay someone that already had injury history and pitches max effort every outing? I don’t think this is like a Max Scherzer scenario, where we will regret it if we don’t sign him. Max had a crazy arsenal and no injury history. We are most likely getting Skubal during his peak years. I want him, just not for 10 years. The tigers is smart for offering this deal.