“Ever since 2017, I don’t feel like we’ve put a good roster together,” Do you agree with CC?

"Ever since 2017, I don't feel like we've put a good roster together," Do you agree with CC?
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  1. I’ve been a Cashman defender.. but it’s time man. If only to shake things up, give someone else a chance

  2. I don’t think this is fair to the 2018-’19 teams, who both won 100+ games (and that was with the 2019 battered by injuries). I don’t think we’ve had a team as good as either of those since then, however.

  4. A massive problem with the roster is that Cashman has done deals that have handicapped the payroll so holes in the lineup exist now that didn’t exist when I was a kid watching from 98 to 2009. They went all in for 2009 and when they lost Cano and guys started aging you started to see the depletion of the teams roster building. If you look at those 2000s Yankees lineups it’s a legitimate fucking murderes row. Look at the fucking World Series lineup in 09 on the road 1. Jeter, 2.Damon, 3.Tex, 4. Alex Rodriguez, 5 Matsui, 6 Posada, 7 Robinson Cano, 8 Melky Cabrera. Cabrera is the worst player of the bunch and he had a 94 wRC+ and Swisher played most of the time. These type of lineups are something Cashman has not been able to replicate. the 2017 team is the closest we’ve come.

  5. Would he have said that about this team a couple weeks ago? Because this looked like a pretty deep, well rounded roster on paper coming into the postseason. I would say they were significantly better constructed than the team that won a pennant just a year ago

  6. There was one key personnel change that happened after 2017 that is still with the team now. Just sayin.

  7. They just overall needed to play more consistent and have a bullpen that didn’t stink.

    When even judge isn’t swinging for the fences every AB but everyone else is idk man. Glaring holes they weren’t on the top of their game locked in nothing.

  8. The thing that bothers me is that it’s no one obvious issue- it’s a bunch of guys who, over the course of a regular season, were streaky enough collectively to put together wins, including in the ALDS and then everybody went cold in the ALCS and that was that.

    I do think some of this was just really really awful timing for their streaky natures, but that over the course of a full season that same issue was obscured a bit, because it’s not like we didn’t go through stretches of 2-4 games where we dropped a series or lost the back half of one and the front half of another, then came back around and would win 7 in a row or something- there just isn’t time in winner take all 3-4 game sets, if you’re in a down swing.

    We had decent momentum at the end of the season, coming off a very solid win streak, but I think that little bit of lay off between the end of the regular season and the start of the post season cooled the whole team off in a bad way and we kinda slogged through that first series with Boston and we got very lucky with our pitching, but then the cold streaks really hit in the ALCS against the Jays and that was that.

    Bad timing.

  9. CC works for the front office in some capacity. It’s important that CC says this.

    They may not value A Rod’s opinions, but Jeter and CC saying something should hold water.

  10. They made the WS last year, but sure not a good roster. 

    On 10/04 Arod and Jeter picked Yankees to WIN the WS, but sure not a good roster. 

  12. I mean I love CC but that’s flat out wrong. Way too many people act like that 17 team was unbelievable but it certainly had flaws. Would take 2019, 2025 and maybe even 24 over 17

  13. I liked the roster post-deadline this year.

    It wasn’t perfect but it’s the most dynamic lineup I’ve seen Boone with.

  14. So we didn’t have a good roster this year? I disagree. The team didn’t show up when it mattered. it’s really that simple.

  15. Decent argument to be made this year’s team was the most complete of the Judge era on paper heading into October

    Lineup mashed, starting pitching was on a good run, and it was just a matter of hoping enough bullpen arms got it together due to the talent they had

    Unfortunately, the same amount of wins than got us an AL Central cupcake party instead led us to AL East Gauntlet match and 40% of the team disappeared

    I say all that to say…it all came together for a second there

    But the damage was already done and enough pieces broke that we couldn’t succeed in spite of it

    But for better or worse, looks like most of the team will get one more chance at it soooooo

  16. Everyone sees this now but the people who make the decisions. Thank you Girardi for being a baseball coach, it hasn’t been the same since

  18. 18-19 were good, 20 is a wash, 21-23 was subpar but the results were okay relative to on field talent because the pitching development was finally delivering somewhat. 24 was good in general but offensively very top heavy. Think 25 was the first time since 2019 where the lineup was at least 6 guys deep and starting pitching excelled even with losing Cole. So of course the bullpen which has been a constant strength since 17 decides to randomly implode.

  19. Bullseye. It’s been a terribly constructed roster for most of the last decade. Somehow Cashman persists.

    Side note: love hearing CC say “we” when talking about the Yankees

  20. I don’t know that I’d say since 2017, but…

    Let’s look at this year. Team is 94-68, going 49-24 on teams under 500 and 45-44 on teams over 500. In other words, they feasted on bad teams but struggled against actual competition.

    People also seem to forget that between May 30 and August 10, for 63 games, the team was, 27-36, playing 0.429. That sort of winning percentage puts them among the worst teams in the league. They had to go 35-20 to start and then 32-12 down the stretch to make the playoffs.

    Last year, team was also 94-68, but 39-30 against teams under 500 and 55-38 against teams over 500. Same record as 2025, but much better balance.

  21. We were calling up players to start in the playoffs And then playing players in positions they have never played before in the playoffs

  24. Everyone is saying the same thing but according to cashman nobody knows what the fuck they’re talking about.

  27. It’s a top 3-5 roster, but could be so much better if Hal and Cashman had the balls to go all in, like how the Dodgers are bullying everyone.

    It also doesn’t help that Boone does less with more, than other managers around the league.

  28. Ya know what warms my heart? How much these ex-Yankees care about this team. It’s like alumni of a prestigious college being really involved as the board or donors

  29. 100% agree, plenty of power, not enough contact and base runners. Also the bullpen is a dumpster fire.

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