Charlotte Hornets in Greensboro, Picture-Perfect World Series, Spotlight Game at Duke
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Plus, enjoy a positive quote and what’s trending new online. The Jill Berlin Show tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. on Triad Today on WSJS. It’s news talk sports for the Triad. WSJS Winston Salem, Greensboro, High Point, Burlington. Online at wsjs.com. Yes, Josh Graham has opinion. There is nothing that entertains the audience and the masses more than me being bothered. And yes, he’s got attitude. Really, none of the game made sense to me. And that’s exactly why you love him. When this all gets sorted out, I think you and me should get an apartment together. You’re on the drive with Josh Gray. Welcome to a Wednesday drive. It is WSJS News Stalk Sports for the Triad where our show is going to be in Greensboro tonight for the Charlotte Hornets regular season dress rehearsal against the Memphis Grizzlies. There’s nothing quite like watching basketball in the Coliseum. So, we’re looking forward to it. But before we get into the hoops, let’s hit on another game that we’re looking forward to. This weekend in the ACC, Louisville will visit Miami in prime time. That is a Friday night game. And we’re going to see a rematch of last year’s championship between Clemson and SMU. However, neither of those games are the game of the week in the league. No, that is number 12 Georgia Tech visiting Duke Saturday at noon. Wawis Wade Stadium. This is the game of the week because these are two of the three teams with 3-0 conference records currently. There are three of them. Virginia is the third. If we are to assume that Miami is going to be in Charlotte, considering they are one of the two best teams in all of college football right now, then one of those three teams, Duke, CL, uh Duke, Virginia, or Georgia Tech, probably will be facing the Miami Hurricanes for an ACC title. could be in the conversation for a college football playoff bid since Virginia is hosting Washington State this weekend. That’s a non-conference game. Obviously, the winner in Durham is going to be the only team to be a perfect 4-0 to start league play to this point. So, whoever wins this weekend will be in first place in the ACC standings just as we draw it up, drew it all up back in July. Georgia Tech Duke this Saturday at noon. It’s also a matchup perhaps between the the nation’s two most underrated quarterbacks. Daren Mensah certainly isn’t underpaid, but he is underrated. Do you ever hear people mention him as one of the best quarterbacks in this conference? Not really. You look at Carson Beck first, who right now is up there in terms of the Heisman currently is the front runner to win the Heisman Trophy. But what if I told you Dar Mensah is just 20 or 30 yards off of having the most passing yards in the ACC and the only guy in ahead of him is CJ Bailey from NC State who’s played one more game than Darien has. So Darien Mena is essentially the passing leader in the ACC. He also is tied for the most touchdown passes in the conference. So in terms of being prolific, no quarterback statistically has been more prolific in the ACC than Darius Mensah has at Duke. Haynes King, meanwhile, might be the most valuable player in all of college football. the one player that if you take him off his squad, it’s difficult to imagine how his team replaces him. Haynes King, the quarterback at Georgia Tech, is top five in the ACC in rushing. Not among quarterbacks in all of the ACC. Haynes King top five of the ACC in rushing. He has nine touchdown runs nine times. And that doesn’t even account for what he does when he throws the ball already at about 1,000 yards. Saturday’s winning quarterback, especially if it’s Haynes King, should be discussed as a Heisman candidate. The reason they might not be discussed in that context is because of the decal or the logo that’s on the side of the helmet. Haynes King, it reminds me a lot of Sam when he was at Wake Forest four years ago. This is one of the reasons why we want to bring Dave Clawson on. Dave Clawson going to be our guest at 5:30 today because Sam Hartman had Wake Forest top 10 in the country. He was the most valuable quarterback, most valuable player in all of college football, but nobody was talking about him in the context of the Heisman. Top 10 team at Wake Forest. If Georgia Tech wins this game, you’re probably a top 10 team at Georgia Tech. How did they get there? Hannes King. Hannes King deserves that type of recognition. But it is the Blue Devils that have the most control over their destiny. Because between Virginia, Georgia Tech, Duke, Duke faces both Georgia Tech and Virginia the rest of the way. Georgia Tech and Virginia don’t play each other. This is what happens when the league expands to 18. The schedules become all that more important. So for Duke, you have the opportunity. You have control. You’re in the driver’s seat. Not only do you have a perfect 3-0 record, you have the other two teams with 3 and 0 records visiting your stadium, Virginia going to Wallace Wade a few weeks after Georgia Tech is. So, if you take care of these two games, in all likelihood, you’re talking about the Blue Devils being in the ACC championship. And it’s worth noting that Duke, this is going to be a spotlight game on a national televised basis. ESPN at noon. The Blue Devils are favored in this game against the number 12 ranked team in the country. The last time Georgia Tech visited the state of North Carolina, probably should have lost in Winston Salem. We’ll see how it goes Saturday. and a game that you can listen to on WSJS on X at Josh Graham Show and at WSJS radio. That’s where we’re streaming video in addition to YouTube and Twitch. Will Dalton, he’s the executive producer of this show, taking your calls at 3367771600. How many Eric Collins sounds can you summon to get us ready for the Hornets visiting the Triad tonight? A week before, a week out from the regular season opener. This is the last preseason game. Do you have anything else in the tank or is it just that Eric Collins piece? Oh, I have plenty in the tank. I I I mean, heck, I can even go football if you want me to go football. I can I I have a wide variety of Eric Collins. Whatever you play for me, I certainly won’t turn it down. Oh, yeah. Did I stall long enough for you or No, you just had the one button deluxe, right? Just looking at you struggling over there a little bit. didn’t know what exactly you were looking at. Exciting stuff. Really is. Even if it’s just preeason, it is a big deal that the Charlotte Hornets are playing in Greensboro. And the main event tonight is Charlotte’s guards. Obviously, the two biggest stars on the team are in the back court. Oh, no. Disaster. If you’re a basketball fan or if you’re just taking your kid to watch basketball tonight, who are you wanting to see? Who are they wanting to see? LaMelo Ball, Brandon Miller. That’s who they want to watch. Both players are coming off injuries last year. So, there are questions surrounding both guys. More questions with LaMelo because there’s some uncertainty about LaMelo’s future, long-term future with Charlotte, Brandon Miller. Can he take that step from being really good to potentially being an all-star? Those are things that we’ll be watching relative to those two. Tonight is again a regular season rehearsal. We do not know who the third starting guard is going to be. Now, there’s still some question who the starting center will be. Looks like it’s going to be Musa Diabate with Mason Plumbley and Ryan Cochrinter coming off the bench. Ryan caught Briner being an older freshman 23 years old out of Kraton. Busousa Diabate was a great story last year. Smaller small ball small ball center but still a center nonetheless. You feel pretty good about him at that spot. You got LaMelo, you got Brandon Miller, you got Miles Bridges that’s in your starting lineup. So that leaves one more spot. And in Charlotte’s first three preseason games, they’ve started three different players there. In the opener, it was Khan Canipple. In the second game, it was Trey Man. Saturday against Dallas, it was Colin Saxton. Now, it’s not going to be Trey Man. He has a role in this team and he’s pretty good at it. He’s the backup point guard. He’s the guy you bring in when LaMelo Ball is out of the game. So, will it be Kadipple or will it be Colin Ston? Ston is a veteran who probably is a better player right now than Kanipple is, but Charlotte’s not in a position where they’re trying to win right now. Conanipple is the future. He’s a top five pick. You really like him and he did a lot in the summer league. He’s done a lot in the preseason so far. So, who Charlotte starts in that spot could be telling. and Will. That’s what five guards that we’ve mentioned. Canipple Ston or that’s four. No, wait. Trey man, LaMelo Ball, Brandon Miller. That’s five guards. Is that even half of the group? Did you mention Spencer Denwy? Oh, we’re going to get there, bud. Okay. Cuz when you look at the whole group of guards, there are five or six more beyond the five that I just mentioned that you might recognize. It’s a veteran like Spencer Denwitty. It’s young players like Liam McNeely, the rookie out of Yukon. The secondyear player KJ Simpson. Josh Green who started many of the games last year. How about Pat Coneton who gets to play in the Coliseum for the first time in 10 years. When he was I was there that night carving up North Carolina in the ACC championship game as a member of Notre Dame. Those green uniforms they wore. We’ll see what color uniform Charlotte’s wearing tonight. Hornets, Grizzlies, and Greensbury later tonight. 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But before we get to that, both LCS series in Major League Baseball, championship series, final four of the sport, semifinals of the sport are two zip zero uh two zip series leads. And the team that’s up two zip won both of the games on the road, which means we’re pretty close to calling this a wrap. both these series. If either of these two teams win at home in games three or four, it would require something historic for the other side to rally, for the other side to come back. So, let this be the first look anywhere at what would be a chef’s kiss perfect World Series matchup. between the Seattle Mariners and the LA Dodgers. This would be perfect. A perfect West Coast World Series. Number one, it would be the ultimate David versus Goliath series. You have the reigning champs with an ungodly payroll facing a team that just won its first division title in 24 years. They aren’t just will looking for their first World Series. They’re one of five teams that have never won the World Series before. Seattle’s never been to the Fall Classic. Forget win the thing. They’ve never even been there before. This is where we put Will Dalton to the test. Seattle, one of five teams that have never won the World Series. How many of the other four do you think you can get? H played this game with my dad last night where he asked me how many I could name and I got four of the five. I was halfway to the fifth and then he said, “If you’re thinking about this team, it’s correct.” So, got four of the five. I’ll give myself credit for four or five. Not perfect. Milwaukee. Give yourself a be Give yourself a bell. That’s correct. I got to find my bill. Minnesota. The Twins won with Kirby Pocket. Shout out to Kirby. Uh, let’s see here. I don’t want to guess Oakland just because I feel like there was a time I don’t know. They were one of the best teams in baseball in the 70s. Yeah, that’s what do you know? That’s what I was going to guess is the 70s. Reggie Jackson, bunch of other really good players. Great. Reggie Jackson. Catfish Hunter. Uh, Kansas City won it when they 10 years ago. When they went Okay, that’s what I thought. I thought they won it. Beat the Mets. Yeah. Um, let’s go with the Marlins. They beat your Yankees in 2003. One in 97 as well. True them. Um, Josh Beckett. I think they won the World Series in walk-off fashion in 97 as well. That’s terrific for them. Oh man, this is tough. I’ll just give you the answers. Angels. No, that can’t be. They won in 2002. That can’t be where Yasmin. The answers are Milwaukee, Tampa Bay, Colorado, San Diego, and the Seattle Mariners. Those are the five franchises that have never won a World Series before. Seattle LA. It would pit the two best players in the sport against each other. It’s Shi Otani against Cal Raleigh. And that’s fun because Showi Otani is this global superstar for LA. Cal Raleigh is this budding star, the best player in the American League that it’s been the year of Cal Raleigh. Cal Raleigh in the home run derby. Cal Raleigh, you know, 60 home runs. Cal Raleigh with all the history. Cal Raleigh in the World Series. Cal Raleigh winning it all. That’d be great for the North Carolina native from Koi, North Carolina, ACC legend with the Florida State. It also could be a matchup of the two best starting pitching staffs in Major League Baseball. And it’s not just Seattle that would have an opportunity to make some history. The Dodgers could make some history, too. It has been 25 years since a team has gone backto back. Since a team has been a repeat champion in baseball, your Yankees won three in a row. 98, 99, 2000. 25 years since we’ve seen a repeat champion. The Dodgers can do that. Other than the Dodger fans out there, though, other than them, nobody’s going to be rooting for LA, right? Other than Dodger fans, is anybody going to watch a Dodger Seattle World Series and root against Seattle? I’d like to see a repeat over Seattle winning for the first time ever. Maybe. I haven’t decided yet. Why? What would you have against Seattle? I don’t know. Sincerely, I don’t know who I’m going to pull for in this spot. You You’d have to be sick in the head to not root. Unless you’re a Dodger fan. Okay. Unless you’re a Dodger fan. We got one on the line. Okay. Let’s go to Joey in Thomasville. You do realize this, Joey, that if it’s LA and Seattle, if you’re not a Dodger fan, everybody’s rooting for the Mariners, right? They’ve never won before. They’ve never even been to the series before. I absolutely, positively, 100% agree with you. But it’s us against the law, baby. and and and going back to last week, you know, you know, like I said, people take uh a lot of pleasure out of you getting wrong. They don’t credit you when you get right, which is often. That’s true. But the HHL told you that we were going to get past this. I heard I heard you were right. You were right. I I I I love the way I mean, I know people talk about the spending the money and all that, and we do. We got a big market. we spend the money, but you know, teams such as Atlanta and and other big market teams, they could spend more than they do, and they don’t, but Oh, I didn’t mention a thing. Oh, I I don’t think that’s the reason people like dislike the Dodgers. I just think it’s the fact that the Dodgers have won a ton. I mean, the Mets have spent more money than pretty much anybody else as well. If the Mets were in the World Series, there’d be a lot of people rooting for the Mets just because they haven’t won since 1986. Yeah. I I just I mean, I think that this organization I think they they they they nailed it. They they do it right. And we’ve got everything set up. It’s a it’s a murderer’s road from bat one to bat nine. And then our starting pitching has been absolutely phenomenal. Yeah. The only way that I think you can get to the Dodgers is for one of our starters to have a bad outing and you get to the bullpen. You do that, then you you definitely got a chance. But my let let me say this too. My son who is in the Air Force, he just literally moved to Tacoma, Washington. He’s been there for like three days. He told me yesterday, he said, “I’m telling you, Pop, if the Mariners and the Dodgers play in the World Series, I don’t care how much that ticket is, I’m going.” And I say, “Amen.” Amen. And amen. So, hey, we got a long ways to go. This this series, I’m not I’m I’m I’m not taking it for granted. Milwaukeekey’s a great team. They had the best record. We got to finish it out. So, it’s not over. And then and then beyond that, you got to get past the World Series. Bill Bill writes in, “I think I think we figured it out. I can’t believe I didn’t think of this.” Bill Bill, the reason WD doesn’t want Seattle is because Judge is the MVP in his mind. That’s it. This you’re clearly you’re clearly holding the re that there’s no other reason why you would not like Seattle because you don’t like the assertion that Aaron Judge isn’t the best player in the American League. I’m just screwing around. I I have to pull for the Mariners on principle. Okay. Because of last year’s World Series. Well, that’s part of it, but I have to because one, I love a good underdog story. I like that. Yeah. And also, he’s not going to win AL MVP, and he should win something. So, let him win the World Series. We’ll see you later. Thanks, Joey. It’s good to hear your voice. Uh, so on principle, I have to let him at least have the World Series because he ain’t winning the MV MVP. It’s not happen. He deserves it. You should listen uh make sure you’re subscribed to the podcast. Search the drive with Josh Graham, iTunes, Apple Podcast, Spotify, wherever you get your pods, the best now or what we do available on demand. If you leave a fivestar review on Apple Podcast, we will read that review out on the air. That’s what we’ll do because that’s how much we care and that’s how you can help us. Uh the YouTube channel, that’s how you can watch the show in addition to listening to it. Did you end up finding that clip? I sent it to you, right? Yeah. Oh, here we go. So, this is the Celtics. Yeah. held a media basketball game, but not media versus media. No. Before the season gets started, it is the coaches of the Celtics playing the media. Roll tape. [Applause] coaches 57 media 4. I don’t know who that blonde girl was, but that shot was right in her eyes. It was a great contest. Great closeout. Right in her eyes. Great contest on her part. Uh that just leads to the obvious question. If we as a media got together, college basketball in the state, and wanted to challenge a coaching staff, which coaching staff would you like to challenge? Um, I’m challenging the I’d stay away from Duke because Sh and Chris Carowwell might mean business. That’s tough. shot. Honestly, like I I would I would challenge you and see just Hubert. Yeah. Honestly, and Shawn May, Marcus Paige, I want none of that. Marcus Ginard, if you want to bring me worse than Duke, but I I challenge Steve Forbes. Yeah, I could beat him up and down the court. For me, it would just be fun to play those guys cuz I’m a Tarhill fan. I want to win and it would be awesome. I don’t want to lose 57 to four. Marcus Ginyard in his new position. Well, he’s not working with the basketball program. Well, I’ll bring him in anyway, right? Uh I I think we’d have the best shot against uh against Wake staff, probably right because I think Will Wade, he could be he might not play fair. Yeah, I feel like he might be a little bit of a dirty player. I think Wake Forest might be the one to look at. Jay Davis agrees. Jay Davis, we could challenge him. Now, here’s the thing. If I get beat 57 to4 by the Celtics coaches, the people that we cover, that’s that’s your domain. That’s fine. They should be required to have the the players of the the media team do a press conference afterwards while the coaches interview and then they do a write up of the 57 to4 and make them publish it on their various outlets. I like this. That’d be great. Have Jason or have uh whoever the Celtics coach is. Who is it? Missoula. Have Missoula write a column about how bad the Celtics media is at basketball. Jay Davis. Nobody wants Shawn May down. No, I I’m just imagining getting posted up by Shawn May. It’s a fun possibility. It is. But no, that wouldn’t that wouldn’t go well. I’m saying it’s a fun possibility to have the coaches conduct an interview. 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All you have to do is give us a call and tell us something good because it is time for weekly positivity. [Music] Oh yeah, I can teach you notes on a page. I can’t teach you the other stuff. Winning the poll miraculously [Music] for Will Dalton’s movie next week. The Disney movie starring Richard Drifus, 1995’s Mr. Holland’s Opus will be a good one for Will Dalton to watch next week. Oh, weekly positivity is brought to you by our friends at Biscuit King. Biscuits. Let’s start by going to the phones. Actually, Jim is in Greensboro. Hi, Jim. How you doing? Let me think about that. I’m doing good. What’s going on with you? Doing all right, man. All right. What do you uh tell me something good with you? Like what’s something positive that has happened to you today or this week? Something that’s positive that’s happened to me. Yeah. Um I don’t know, man. I don’t know. Are you are you the optimistic positive type [Music] saying the Yankees got beat. They’re out of it. That was positive. That is true. You know, I think that’s a great I think that’s a great answer. I mean, the Yankees. The Yankees being out of it. That is good. That certainly got beat. Who’s your team? Do you have a team, Jim? Yeah, Kansas City. The Royals. Oh my gosh. So, who’s who’s your favorite Royal? Are you How far back you go? Oh, yeah. George Brett. George Brett. Did you have Did you have Pine Tar on your bat when you played just to pay homage to George Brett? Sure did. I love that. So, we hate the Yankees. That’s good. No, we don’t. I love that. I think I think that’s already good enough with me. What do you got coming up this weekend? Anything good? Anything good this weekend? Just some yard work. Oh, wow. See, some baseball. I love that. So, what do you think of uh these LCS? You watching the LCS at this point? Yeah, I’m like you. I guess we’re going to be watching some uh West Coast Mariners and uh Dodgers. Looks like we’re going to root against the Dodgers in that context, right? Right. Right. Right. Exactly. They’re about like the Yankees. Yeah. Who do you think should win AL MVP? Should it be Cal Raleigh or should it be Aaron Judge? Um I like Riley. Yeah, you and me both. No, it’s not. This is This is as analytic as it gets. Good. Judge is good, too. You don’t need to say that. That’s fine, Jim. All right. Raleigh is the guy. Uh, how about you enjoy some tickets on our dime, Jim, you have some fun with that. We appreciate you listening. All right, man. Thank you. Yeah, stay on hold. Uh, we’ll get your information. I really badly, since it was weekly positivity and our voices are a little bit lower than usual, I really badly You know what? Just kill the music real quickly. What I wanted to do was Jim. Yeah, I was thinking it, too. Do my best. Uh, Jim Nance impression, Jim. I was thinking it, Jim. They’re about to run inside Slam Jim. But that’s not what we do in Weekly Positivity. Uh, tell me something good with you, by the way. WD. I’m excited to see LaMelo Ball for the first time tonight in person. In the flesh. In the flesh. Hopefully he hits one of those onefooted three-pointers nerds hate so much. Oh, just learned that our seats are right next to Connor O’Neal. Let’s go Connor tonight. So, if you’re there in Greensboro, you can say hi to me. You can say hi to WD. Say hi to Connor. I tell you something else good. So, my uh apartment lease, it runs out at the end of next month, and I just got some information on that this week, and I was worried, you know, as typically happens in these things, that my rent was going to go up quite a bit, maybe. Was hoping it wouldn’t. And I found out my rent is only going to go up by $50. So, that’s good. So, that is very good. Get to get to stay put. Don’t have to worry about moving anywhere. Kyle the Amazon driver. Kyle is calling. Hi Kyle. Hello Josh and friends. How are you? I am um I don’t I don’t want to speak for Will, but I’m doing good. A little a little congested, but good. A little congested. You need to go down to the street corner and talk to one of them old ladies and get you some robbitasin rubbed on you, man. put it on the bottom of your feet. It works wonders. But hey, I got a few things I want to say. I’m gonna rattle them off very, very quickly while I’m back here at the Amazon Driver Compound. Number one, the NASCAR 25 video game came out. And oh, is it amazing, Josh. We’ve waited a long time for a good NASCAR game, and we’ve got it. The number one rated driver on said video game is one William Barn sponsored by Liberty University. Speaking of the mountain just got back from the game last night. It was midweek on the mountain. Liberty University versus New Mexico State University. Yeah. Liberty wins by three thanks to a field goal at the end of the game going wide left. love that for New Mexico State. And then on top of that, to cap off the week, because Lord knows I hadn’t been to work in like two days. We’re not going to mess that up. To end it tonight, I will be in the building at Greensboro. Let’s go. Watching the Grizzlies versus the Hornets. My son has got to be the biggest Jarant fan this side of the Mississippi River. Uh oh. So, we’re gonna figure that out, right? I don’t know. I don’t know if Jaw’s going to be playing tonight, but I’ll be there and Will Dalton will be there. We’d love to meet your son. He’s got the brand new LaMelo Ball shoes, too. It’s all good. We’re covered on all bases around here, dog. Well, feel free to come say hello. We’ll have to get a picture or something. And uh we will we’ll holler at you tonight, dog. Holla at my guys, Nick Pierce, now in York, over with uh Liberty as well. Okay, there goes Kyle the Amazon driver. Uh you know what’s good with me? Good. Had some folks come over to my house and put some chemicals on my carpet and Daniel’s room. Daniel’s nursery. Got that cleaned up. Nice. Nice. Looks so clean. Doesn’t smell great in there right now, but it looks so clean. So fresh. So clean. Very happy for him on that. And that’s been weekly positivity. The drive is also brought to you by our friends at the local YMCA. Tired of the same old holiday routine? How about look ahead? Not too far on the horizon? The Mistletoe Ron run is coming. Ready to make a difference while having fun? Well, join the YMCA of Northwest North Carolina for the 42nd annual Mistletoe Run. It’s a half marathon, 5K, a onem fun run, something for everybody to participate. Register now at ymcwnc.org. Make your holiday run unforgettable. He mentioned that Liberty Football was in action last night. There are a couple more college football games this evening. Delaware State. Oh, wait. That’s Delaware. The Blue Hens who will be visiting Winston Salem next month. Going to Jacksonville State. UTP is at Sam Houston State. Don’t know how much of a look I’ll be getting giving either of those other than the Hornets tonight. You do have game three of Mariners Blue Jays. It’s a must-win. As if game two wasn’t enough of a must-win. Now you’re going into Seattle trailing two zip and George Kirby’s on the mount for Seattle. Good luck to Toronto. Don’t know if I actually mean that, but good luck to Toronto facing the AL MVP Cal Raleigh and the Seattle Mariners. That was a good weekly positivity. Thought Jim was super positive. Yeah. Didn’t know if we were going to be able to extract. It might be the first time we’ve ever done a weekly positivity call where somebody’s like, “Nah.” Actually, I’m not doing good. Can’t think of anything. Do you still give them tickets? How if you don’t say anything good? Eventually, he arrived at something that actually was negative. Like, even though I don’t like the Yankees, and I enjoy him saying that, it’s not nice just to say that here’s what’s good. This team is fa facing tumult trouble problems. Yeah, I guess that’s good depending on who you ask. No, that’s what I’m saying. 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[Music] [Music] It’s starting to look like the 2026 NFL draft going to feature a strong quarterback class. Remember, Will, when we thought in the summer, oh, this is going to be an epic quarterback group. This happens all the time. Anytime the draft gets near, people look ahead to next year’s class before you’ve broken down these players to a pulp and say, “Oh, this class is going to be so much better than the one we’re looking at right now.” And it happened with this quarterback draft class. They were looking at some of the guys taking and thinking, “Oh, buddy, just wait until next year.” Who were the guys going into the season? This was the top four on Mel Kyper’s board. Arch Manning, Cade Clubnick, Garrett Nusmeer, Drew Aller. Those were the top four guys. Do you know how many of those players are included in the top six of Mel Kyper’s current quarterback list? The answer is zero. It’s only been a month and a half. Oh yeah, these guys all first round draft picks. A month and a half later, not even in the top five, top six of the quarterback list. So here’s your new top three. Number one, the number one prospect on Mel Kyper’s board, Oregon quarterback Dante Moore. Yes, the former UCLA quarterback who we’ve only seen playing at Oregon for five games. He’s the number one prospect in all of college football. Congratulations, Dante Moore. Second, Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza, friend of the show. And lastly, Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson. Those are the top three QBs on the board. Here’s a question. If you’re a Jet fan, who are you salivating over? Who are you thinking, “Man, can’t wait to take this guy in the draft. He’s going to change things.” None of these guys, right? None of these guys you circle and say, “Oh, for sure this is a franchise guy.” Maybe Lenor Sers can bounce back and jump up the list a little bit more or John Matier at Oklahoma, but starting to look like Matier might come back for another year. In terms of players who It’s nuts. Arch Manning not even in the top 12 of this list. Kade Clubnick not even in the top 12 of the quarterbacks on this list. So, what do you think, Will, about this quarterback class? It was very much uh unex Well, it was kind It’s kind of unexpected. I thought maybe uh Yeah, I thought maybe Carson Beck would be a little bit higher on this. Yeah, there are two incredible talents in this draft class coming up, but these are guys we could have identified in August. Jeremiah Love, who’s the running back at Notre Dame. He will be a top five pick. He’s really good. And then the best player in all of college football, and we’ve known this guy’s been the best player of all college football for a while now. He won’t be drafted number one or number two overall, but he should, is Josh D’s older brother, Ohio State safety Caleb DS. He’s the best player in college football. He just is. Take that guy number one. Take that guy number two. You got a great player who’s going to be a great player for a very long time. Yeah, you play safety, but just take a great player. That’s who Caleb DS is. So, that’s an early look at the draft class. Will Dalton, how does it feel to be talking about the draft, but not in the context of the Panthers in mid-occtober? Remember three weeks ago when we were saying if they lose this game to the Atlanta Falcons, we’re going to be or if they lose this game to the Miami Dolphins, we’re going to be We talked about it at halftime of that game when they were trailing Miami. We were saying, man, it really sucks that we’re going to be talking about mock drafts. Not anymore. Yeah. Not with these quarterbacks. Yeah, that makes me very happy. Um, you know, I because I would not feel I mean, I don’t know. Carson Beck might be able to do a little I don’t know what he’s going to look like at the pro level, but I feel a lot better with Bryce Young’s development than Oh, we got a draft. No. No shade. Fernando Mendoza. We got to draft Carson Beck. Pretty shady. That was pretty shady. No, no shade. I just like Bryce Young better. Getting to tonight, there is a strong Duke flavor with the Hornets preseason visit to Greensboro. Obviously, the Hornets drafted two Duke Blue Devils in June. Kipple was taken fourth overall. Seion James was taken in round two of the draft. Khan could immediately start. He might start in Charlotte’s opener a week from tonight. Seion, this might be a guy we get to know a little bit get to know a little bit more in Greensboro. Maybe a member of the Greensboro Swarm trying to help them get to the playoffs for the second consecutive year. Happy 10year anniversary to the Greensboro Swarm. Mason Plumbley. is going to return to the Coliseum tonight. He won not one but two ACC tournament titles in the Greensboro Coliseum. So, it’s all good memories for Mason Plumbley, right? He was also on the 2012 team that lost to Lehi in that 215 game. So, there were some positives, some very high highs for Mason Plumbley. There was a pretty low low in losing to CJ McCollum’s Lehi team in 2012. Uh, and then Blue Devil legend Cedric Coward plays for Memphis. You remember Cedric Coward? Duke legend. Part of the brotherhood. It is fair to wonder what if when you w if we’re going to get a good look at Cedric Coward tonight. If you don’t know who Cedric Coward is, he committed to Duke as a transfer from Washington State, I think, and had such a good combine he kept his name in the draft. And for good reason, he was taken in the lottery. either in the lottery or right outside the lottery. It was in the teens. So Cedric Coward, a highly drafted player. And if you’re in the coliseum tonight watching, you might think, “Oh, this probably is an upgrade over Domar.” All due respect, could you imagine that if Duke had a lottery pick first round guy in the lineup addition to Cam Boozer, Isaiah Evans, and all they also have back with Caleb Foster and Malik Brown and Pad Gamba? Oh my goodness. Is John Shy going to make an appearance tonight? I say yes. I hope so. It’s like you’ve got wait a minute I my my season hasn’t started yet and I only have to drive an hour to go see Khan and my former teammate Mason Plumbley. That’s right. Mason Plumbley and John Shire won a national title together 10 in 2010. And uh does he even say hi to Cedric Coward? Hey. Hey, Seth. He definitely says hi to Cedric Coward because I think John Sh knows that was a business decision and that was probably in his best interest. Right. So, if you’re John Sh, you’re a popular guy. Sit in the courtside seats. Maybe bring your kids. Yeah. Hang out. Watch Khan. Watch Sean James. Some food, a gun, and coniple. That’s uh that’s what John Sh’s bringing tonight. That’s what John Shire That’s That’s what That’s what John Shire’s evening looks like. Some food, a gun, and conquer flag drop is so absurd. Don’t know why you have it in your computer still. Don’t understand it. I got them all. No, it doesn’t make sense. Why it’s still there? The context. I I It’s coniple. No, it’s three things actually, Will. Two of which are not con canipple. some food, a gun, and conanipple. Still fun to hear it. We just have to explain it. Just got to figure out what the what what best pairs with conanipple and a gun. What type of food, you know? This might be a very this might be like a lasagna type of situation. A lasagna. I don’t know. One hour’s in the books. Hour two of this program. Got a little break got a little breaking news coming up in the big four by the way. Whoa. Mhm. Some breaking Panthers news. Whoa. Yeah. 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Will Dalton says there’s breaking news. Will Dalton, what is that breaking news? At number four, Pat Jones out for the year. [Music] That is Carolina’s best pass rusher. Yep. How good’s Carolina’s pass rush? Uh, they have the some of the fewest sacks in the NFL, right? Yeah. The answer is not good. And he’s the best attack in the quarterback. Yeah. Carolina um through How many games have they played? Six. Yeah. Six games. Three and three. They have five sacks. They played six games, Will. Six. They have five sacks. Mhm. And Pat Jones had the most recent sack. No NFL team has fewer than seven sacks. Carolina has five sacks. Five. And Pat Jones is their best sacker of the quarterback. Yep. It’s going to be um a season ending back surgery, lower back surgery that he’s dealing with. Here’s a bigger bummer about it. You know what’s a big bummer? Today was supposed to be so positive coming out of Charlotte because you know what’s crazy? He’s the only player on the roster that didn’t participate in practice today. The only guy who’s on the 53man roster right now who missed practice today. Yeah. was Pat Jones. So, I thought we were gonna go into this segment and talk about, hey, Jaylen Coker, full practice today. Yeah. Chuba Hubard, he’s about to get work back in. Austin freaking Corbett. What? Full practice? Yeah. His window opening up. He’s close to getting back in there. But no, not only do you lose a guy, you lose a guy for the season. Brutal. Brutal. At a key spot you’re already thinning in. Yeah. Canalis said that it was something that he woke up with on Monday morning and he said quote he said quote he was in a really bad spot. Uh but he did add that you know this would be a big opportunity for Nick Scorton. I’m sure it will be princely umam yellen. I’m sure it will be a great opportunity for them but man it’s a bummer is that a blow. Yeah that’s a blow. Number three. Let’s get to some uh NBA news today. Sure. Russell Westbrook has completed the rainbow jersey challenge. Oh, do you know what that is? No idea. I thought you were going to I thought you were talking about like the rainbow bridge and I was about to get really sad. Don’t know what you’re talking about. So the rainbow jersey challenge is, you know how Shaq played for literally every different color of team in the rainbow? So like you go through all his different jerseys, it looks like rainbow. Sure. Yeah. Well, Russell Westbrook has now done that because he has signed with the Sacramento Kings. Um, according to never be heard from again. I hope that’s not the case. Sacramento’s not bad. No, it’s Zack Lavine. How often are we talking about Sacramento? Well, I mean, they’ve been better in recent years. I mean, Darian Williams might care, but other than that, I don’t think anyone’s talking about D5’s a Kings fan from out that way. Uh, yeah, Shams broke earlier that uh he agreed to sign with them. Uh, it will be his 18th NBA season. Uh, didn’t you tell me that Malcolm Brogden is retiring also? I did. Virginia legend. Yeah. Malcolm Brogdom, former sixman of the year in the NBA, alltime Virginia Cavaliier. Yeah. So, saw that today. And um I mean, I’m glad because I want to see Russ on a, you know, on a team. He’s still got some juice left in the tank. The NBA’s better with him in it in my humble opinion. Sure. Yeah. He’s so You can see how moved he is by this. You like all these old guys. It’s fine. Well, I mean, it’s Russell Westbrook we’re talking about. LeBron has an old man injury. Yeah. Well, LeBron is still like legit and he’s relevant, but you can’t say that he’s not. Course he’s relevant because Yeah, cuz he he now has injuries that 60-year-olds get. Oh, please. Well, that’s what it is. How many times you see guys out with seatica or whatever? That doesn’t happen. I don’t know. He’s old. And guess what? Still elite even at an old age. No, he’s not. How? Yes, he Forget it. Elite. How do you define elite? One of the best players in the league. A top 10 player in the league. He’s not that. Oh, not anymore. Yes, he is. Like, not anymore. Sure, he’s talked about like that because that’s what drives all NBA conversation on all these shows, but I’m sorry. the guy uh I don’t think he’s one of the top 10 players in the league right now. I don’t think so because he can’t play as much. He can’t play as many minutes as other guys who are in the top 10. Do you feel that way about Steph too? Yeah, I probably feel that way about Steph. Like there are a lot of really good players in the league right now. He is. But you have aged Steph a little bit more than what he actually is. He’s still top. I just I just look at the AllNBA list, man. It’s all I look at, right? And do you know whose name I don’t see on first team AllNBA? LeBron, Steph Curry. And that’s fine, by the way. Again, they’re getting older. They’re getting older. It happens. Like, there are I would you would you take Jaylen Brunson over both those guys? Probably right now. LeBron. Not over LeBron. Oh, come on. Or Steph. Actually, no. I would not. Would you take Anthony Edwards over both of them? I would probably. Okay, that’s a second team guy. First team is Giannis, Joic, Tatum, SGA, Donovan Mitchell. I’m not taking Donovan Mitchell over either one of those guys. Okay. Would you take Luca? I would. Not over. I would probably, right? I don’t know if I’d take him over Steph. Like it depends. Eyes are getting younger guys are getting better. Jaylen Williams might be that type of good. Kevin Durant, you know, we’ll see. Victor Wimyama is coming. Number Oh, yeah. And the Hornets play tonight in Greensboro. Number two. Well, that’s what I was going to get to was tonight’s slate because you do have the Hornets in action. will be at the First Horizon’s Coliseum. But I actually want to look at the baseball tonight where at 808 on FS1 and you got the Blue Jays and the Mariners with the Mariners up 20 in this series. And here’s the scary thing for Toronto. I have no sympathy for them at all. The Mariners are playing their first game in Seattle and they lead two nothing and they won very handily uh their last game in Toronto 10 to three. No trouble. So, I think I like the Mariners tonight. You got that. That’s the That’s the only baseball game tonight. And I’m seeing this like Jay Davis. LeBron played 70 games at 35 minutes a game. LeBron’s still legit. Okay. The number is he’s less than 35 a game. And I if you don’t play exactly 35, you’re not in the top 25 of minutes per game in the NBA for the record. So 35, you might say, “Whoa, that’s a lot.” In college basketball, that’s a lot a lot. But in the NBA, like guys are averaging 37.7 and 38 minutes a game. And it’s the best of the best in the league. And it’s not a shot at LeBron to say that you’re not one of the 10 best players in the NBA at 41. That’s all I’m saying. Shouldn’t be treated like that much of a hot take. It’s not supposed to be like I take Paulo Bon Carro over LeBron right now. And it should. He’s 15 years 20 years younger. Well, I don’t care about that. I That does matter. Who’s better right now? I I think Paulo Bonga is better than LeBron right now. He should be Jaylen Brown. I’d probably take Sha Jaylen Brown over LeBron right now. 41-year-old LeBron’s who we’re talking about here. Not LeBron five years ago. Not LeBron all time. Jaylen Brown over LeBron. Yeah. Jaylen Brown was a Finals MVP. I know he was. And he’s in his prime. I know he is. Yeah. Like right now. 41-year-old LeBron versus in his prime Jaylen Brown. I’d take LeBron. Of course you would. I I’d take LeBron. I take Anthony Davis over LeBron right now. LeBron can do more. He can. He can. You know, like I I don’t I don’t mean that as a shot. It’s just age is unbeaten. Well, sure. But not yet. Devin Booker probably take him over LeBron. Tyrese Maxi maybe. Probably not. Tyrese Maxi maybe a conversation. Get Maxi out of here. Get Tyrese Maxi out. Just throw in some names out there. I know you are. It’s too many. Like the the the number was 10. That was the number. Number one on the big four is I saw this story this morning. Actually, somebody told me about it and now I’m seeing it and reading it. Jamal Murray over LeBron. You sure you don’t want to take uh Mason Plumbley over LeBron? You know, I didn’t say that. Uh Seion Jet, forget it. Um Bam Adabio. So Derek White, Sophie Cunningham. We can just keep going. We just keep going. Sophie Cunningham. Maybe Kade. Yeah. Oh god. In Chapel Hill, we always love a good local story. Any other names before I continue? Kade’s really good actually. No, nobody said he wasn’t. He was third team allNBA. I put him in that category. He averaged 24 26 a game. There’s more than um there’s more than Bill Bichc’s program that’s on fire in Chapel Hill. Caitlyn Clark maybe. So this dog this that was a joke. Yeah. Really? I know. Why even compare LeBron to Caitlyn Clark? So W out in Raleigh, they uh shared this video of a dog. The moment a dog caused a house fire, how did it do this? It was chewing on a lithium ion battery. Heard this story earlier. See? And the house caught fire and merely feet away from the dog, this fire started. The dog’s name was Colton. Colton the dog. And Colton the dog. Yeah. The owner, David, oddly, ironically enough, is a firefighter at the Chapel Hill Fire Department. Zion over LeBron. I’m just going to ignore you. Said he received this alert. Embiid on his security system about the he can’t stay healthy. Let’s get Embiid and his weak his weak knees out of here. Kawhai, no. The dog got out. End of story. I’m at I’m upset. Daren Williams at NC State over LeBron. Luca Bogavat, super fan of this show. 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[Music] WD got so offended at me suggesting in the year of our Lord 2025 going into 2026 LeBron James wasn’t a top 10 player in the NBA anymore in his early 40s. So, I’m putting together as we speak right now a top 10 list, top 10 guys in the league, 10 players better than LeBron that we’ll get to momentarily because right now, super fan of the show, David Clemens, who last year, I think, was on Wheel of Fortune and he made it to the final round. Big winner in Wheel of Fortune. He has more news to share with us. Dave, what is the news that you can bring to us? How much can you tell us right now? What’s up, JG? Thank you for having me as always. And yeah, I just wanted to share with you and your audience on August the 7th, I headed out to Los Angeles and me and my brother paid a visit to a TV show called The Price Is Right. Let’s go. Let’s go. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. So, let me tell you, let me tell you something, JG. I wear my lucky shoes that day and the these shoes bring me great luck. Okay. So, that’s it. You could tell us that you were luck, you were wearing lucky shoes, and that you went to a taping of the Price is Right. Is that as far as you can go? Yeah. You know, when you when the TV when when the when the show comes on 11:00 a.m. tomorrow, you can fire it up. 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. Actually, I would love if your audience and people were watching at like 10:56, 10:57 because the show starts right at 11. Yeah. Pregame a little bit. Yeah. Well, and when the show starts right at 11, they call four contestants down. And these is like this is like the A team, right? And and I don’t want these are your contestants with big personalities and they get a big introduction and like some of them do like Hulk Hogan entrances and WWE wrestling entrances. Uh I wouldn’t want your audience to miss anything like that. So if if you know right when it starts at 11:00, they might miss a little something. So maybe I get selected at the beginning and I wouldn’t want them to miss. This is great advice for a guy like Will Dalton who when you tell him 11:00 a.m. it’s 11:03 11:05. So 10:55 maybe turn on the TV, throw on WFMY. And if you don’t have a TV or you don’t have cable, you could go to uh CBS’s website and you could find these things as well and watch Dave. Okay. Anything else eventful? So it’s pretty darn eventful that you go to a taping of the prices, right? We’ll see what happens tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. for people watching. Uh you you’ve uh already been on another game show on the wheel on Wheel of Fortune. Uh is there anything else that tops that when you’re out in LA? Is there anything else that you did? Yeah. Yeah. So, we filmed that on a Thursday and and I got to give a shout out to Drew Kerry, uh who was just in absolutely incredible down to earth. I get to hang out with him 30 minutes after the show behind the scenes, behind the stage. My little brother’s with me. He’s just a home run of a guy. And then the next day, JG, uh, that was filmed on a Thursday. Friday morning, we’re going to the gym, my brother’s gym, or I guess it’s Arnold Schwarzenegger’s gym. We go work out that Friday morning and as we’re walking in, my little brother who lives there in Venice Beach tells me, “Yeah, Arnold works out here pretty much every morning.” And I kid you not, we we go in at 9:00 at 9:05. Mr. Schwarzenegger is making an appearance in the gym right there. And I get to meet him and shake his hand. I mean, I don’t get to talk to him, but it’s one of the What was he wearing? What was What was Arnold wearing? I’ll send you a picture. He’s an all black and his bodyguards are in all black. That’s That’s outstanding. It’s How intimidating is he up close? He He was He was It was a little intimid. It’s one of the biggest stars I’ve ever met. And just to walk up and shake his head, you know, and he’s got bodyguards and security all around him. And before he walks in the the the gym doors, the two bodyguards come in and in all black and they kind of scan the the gym and my little brother’s like, “Arnold’s about to walk in.” And then 10 seconds later, here comes Mr. Schwarzenegger into the gym. And it was just pretty cool. I love that. So, are you on a machine when this happens? Are you trying? Was Arnold impressed? We’re We’re on a bench press. I think I’m throwing around like 185 or you know I I think I didn’t like as we’re walking to the gym my my brother’s telling me you know Arnold works out here. I’m thinking yeah right whatever and then within 10 minutes you know he makes his appearance. So in review so in review David Clemens giving uh Clemens and Winston Salem love on Wheel of Fortune is going is at a taping of the Price is Right. That show is tomorrow. Dave’s encouraging people to watch at 10:55 so that you’re ready for when the episode starts at 11. Got it. You met Arnold. Uh what’s what’s the next game show that you’re you’re you have your sights on? You’ve already got Wheel of Fortune. You now got the prices right. Is Jeopardy next? What are we looking at? Family Feud? Actually, I was supposed to be casted for Jeopardy last at the beginning of this year. I passed the test I pass the test. But when I do something JG, like I really want to do it. I I I I don’t want to be a champion on Jeopardy. I want to be a multiple day champion. And to do that, I got to brush up on some more knowledge. And so, you know, th this opportunity came about and uh you know, I got a 3-2 fast ball coming down the middle and I just want to turn on that baby and hit it out to left center. I love it. Well, hey, do me a favor. Uh if you end up on the show tomorrow, you willing to recap it with us postgame interview style on the show tomorrow? At this time, will you come back on with us tomorrow? Absolutely. Would love to. And hopefully at that point in time, maybe I can uh give you some behind the scenes and some more details, whatever you guys would be looking for. All right, it’s a date. Tomorrow at this time, we’ll bring you back on. We’ll even do it with video to encourage people to watch on YouTube, Twitch, and X. And uh I can’t wait. I can’t wait to watch the prices right tomorrow. Thanks so much, Dave. Thank you. Y’all have a great day. There goes Dave and Clemens. The man is incredible. He really is. He’s on Wheel of Fortune and gets to the very end because of course he does. I got a feeling he’s want he’s calling us here to tell us to watch Price is Right. This isn’t his words. These are my words. I don’t know anything here. I don’t think Drew Car’s hanging out with for a half hour with people who don’t end up on the show. No, just a guess. Yeah, just a guess. Yeah, let me hang out with this random person that was sitting out in the crowd. Right. So Dave and Clemens tomorrow. I I am now I can’t wait for this. I can’t wait to watch on WFMY tomorrow. Can’t wait to see how Dave does. So that way we can recap it and then do a postgame press conference. A post price is right press conference with Dave and Clemens. See how that goes. And he met Met Arnold. And he met Met Arnold. Get to the chopper. All right, Will. I got my 10. All right, let’s have it. Let’s go. 10 through one. These are 10 players in the NBA this year that are better than 41-year-old LeBron James. We’ll count them down. Starting Well, let’s start with number 10. We’ll go 10 through one. Number 10, Steph Curry. Number nine, Kawhi Leonard. Number eight, Joel Embiid. Number seven, Victor Wimyama. Number six, Anthony Edwards. Number five, Luca Donuch. Number four, Jason Tatum. Number three, Giannis. Number two, SGA. Number one, Nicole Joic. You can’t play the injury card when LeBron is hurt himself. I’m saying we’re assuming good health. We’re assuming good health. And if they’re out there on the court, whether it’s Tatum, Embiid, or Kawhai, you’re taking those three players over LeBron James at 41. I’m not taking Embiid over. Embiid might be like the most unstoppable player when he’s healthy. So is LeBron. No. A force of nature here. Not at 41. And also, I think Luca and Jason Tatum should be swapped, but that’s a different I wasn’t Okay, that was I wasn’t I was hoping you wouldn’t put that together in order. I wasn’t exactly ranking those players in order. Just just get him beat out of here and put LeBron in his place. Well, no, that doesn’t mean LeBron’s 11. Who is I again I I wasn’t kidding when I said that there probably Jaylen Brunson probably. Yeah, I’d probably take Jaylen Brunson. I probably take Kade Cunningham. I’d probably take Kevin Durant. Kade Cunningham over LeBron. Kevin Durant. It’s close. Yeah, I probably I probably wasn’t kidding about Jaylen Brown or a Darius Garland or um the Darius Garland is not better than LeBron. Okay, fine. I you I can listen to that debate. Donovan Mitchell is No, he’s not. Well, he was first team AllNBA last year. Good for him. He still doesn’t have the impact on a game that LeBron James does. Jay Davis says, “What has Victor done?” Victor might be the MVP this year. There was a report that he’s 77 now. What did he grow? Yeah. didn’t know he he was 74. Bob said that he was looking up at Victor Wimyama. Most of us are Bob 74. Yeah, that’s fair. Up next, the game of the week in the ACC is not what you might be immediately thinking of. Keep it here on the drive [Music] only. It’s the Cosmic Devolution Tour with the B-52s and DVO. [Applause] That’s right, the B-52s and DVO together for one big show. October 24th, PNC Music Pavilion Charlotte. [Music] Tickets on sale now at LiveNation and Wsjs.com. [Music] The B-52s and DVO. Let’s go. Calling all wing lovers. East Coast Wings and Grill in Kernisville and on New Garden Road in Greensboro has kids eat free Wednesdays. 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Next up, a visit to Longwood on Friday before hosting UMass at noon on Sunday. The volleyball team improved to 13-4 on the season and 4-2 in Sunb Belt play, sweeping Old Dominion in a weekend series. Next up, a visit to Georgia Southern this week on Thursday and Friday. And Appstate cross country will compete at the Princeton Fall Classic on Friday, while soccer host Marshall on Sunday at 1:00. With your Mountaineer Minute, I’m Matt Present. The drive with Josh Graham only on WJS. [Music] So glad to have you on this Wednesday drive. It’s WSJS News Sports with the Triad where we’re going to be in Greensboro tonight for the Hornets regular season dress rehearsal. The Hornets facing the Memphis Grizzlies. There’s nothing quite like watching basketball in the Coliseum. So, we’re looking forward to that. But before we dig into the hoops, let’s hit on another game we’re looking forward to this weekend in the ACC. Louisville is going to visit Miami. That’s a prime time game. Friday night, we’ll see a rematch of last year’s ACC championship between Clemson, LS or Clemson, and SMU. But neither of those games are the game of the week in the league, though. No, that is number 12 Georgia Tech going to Duke Wallace Wade Stadium Saturday at noon. It’s the game of the week because these are two of the three teams with perfect 3 and 0 conference records right now. Miami has only played one conference game somehow. SMU is perfect, too, but only three teams in the league are 3-0 in league play. Duke, Georgia Tech, and the Virginia Cavaliers. If we’re to assume that Miami is going to make it to Charlotte, considering they are one of the two, maybe three best teams in all of college football, one of these three teams likely to face them in the ACC title game. Since Virginia is hosting Washington State over the weekend, the winner of this game in Durham is going to be alone at top the league standings next week. 4-0 in league play. Is it going to be the Jackets or is it going to be the Blue Devils? It’s also a matchup between perhaps the two most underrated quarterbacks in all of college football. Darien Mensah at Duke, while not underpaid, not being talked about enough for how prolific he’s been. He’s the leader in the conference in passing yards. He’s the leader in passing touchdowns. Hannes King might be the most impactful player in college football this season. He might be the most valuable player in college football. He is fifth in the conference in rushing yards. Not among quarterbacks. Fifth in the conference in rushing at quarterback. Has nine touchdown runs. And that doesn’t even account for what he does through the air. If Georgia Tech beats Duke this weekend, Haynes King should be in the Heisman discussion. The fact that he’s not being brought up in that regard reminds us around here a lot of what happened with Wake Forest four years ago. The Deaks were top 10 in the country. Sam Hartman was the most valuable player you could argue in the sport. Nobody was bringing him up in the national Heisman discussions, but Haynes King, if he wins this weekend, Georgia Tech probably a top 10 team. And who is the runaway Heisman favorite right now? Right now, the best odds, Carson Beck, Fernando Mendoza, and Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson. That’s the list. And if that’s the list, Haynes King belongs in that discussion. Dave Clawson probably has memories of Sam Hartman not getting a lot of love. Coach Clawson’s going to join us at 5:30. Look forward to catching up with him. We’ll bring up this subject. We’ll bring up this matchup. The Blue Devils, they have control of their destiny or the most control over it. With expanded schedules or expanded league standings, 18 teams in the conference, your schedule isn’t they’re not round robbins. They can’t be. So, who you face is very important. The schedule, the conference schedule you uh receive has never been more important than it is in 2025. The Blue Devils, they face both Georgia Tech and Virginia. And those games are both at Wallace Wade Stadium. Georgia Tech doesn’t play Virginia, though, so they don’t nearly have that level of control. And again, these games are in Durham. And it’s worth noting Duke’s favored against the Jackets right now. It’s a spotlight game, ESPN noon kick game of the week in the ACC. The Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets and the Duke Blue Devils on X at Josh Graham show and at WSJS radio. It’s where we’re streaming video in addition to YouTube and Twitch. Will Dalton, he’s the executive produ producer of this show. Taking your calls at 336771600 WD. How many Eric Collins sounds can you summon to get us ready for Hornets Grizzlies in the First Horizon Coliseum, the building previously known as the Greensboro Coliseum tonight? Chicken Salad Deluxe. That’s it. It’s all you got? Humpy. Now we’re talking one week till the regular season starts. No, it’s not. We can’t wait. Charlotte in its preseason finale. Even if it’s just preseason, it’s a big deal that the Hornets are playing in Greensboro. And the main event is Charlotte’s Guards. [Applause] Obviously, the two biggest stars on the floor tonight going to be on the team wearing teal. They’re going to be in the back court. It is LaMelo Ball. It is Brandon Miller. If you are a basketball fan and you’re going tonight, if you are a father bringing your kid to the game, you they want to see LaMelo. They want to see Brandon Miller. Both players are coming off injuries, a lot of question marks surrounding those guys. Very important seasons. LaMelo’s se uh future looks a little it’s murky. It’s a little we we don’t quite know what it’s going to be. Brandon, can he take that step from being a really good player to potentially being an all-star? That’s a question that is being considered in his year three. Get in there. Tonight is the regular season dress rehearsal. We do not know heading into the season who the third guard in Charlotte’s lineup is going to be. They’re starting five. We have a good idea for who the rest of the starters are. Obviously LaMelo and Brandon Miller and obviously Miles Bridges. Musa Diabate looks like he’s going to be the starting center with Mason Plumbley and rookie Ryan Caulk Briner coming off the bench. He’s an older rookie, 23 years old out of Kraton, a second round pick who’s been the story of camp. Seven of seven from the field in the preseason game against Dallas on Saturday. But in terms of who that last guard is, Dow doesn’t play for the Charlotte Hornets. Uh three preseason games, they’ve had three different starters at that spot. Coniple, Trey Man, Colin Ston. It’s not going to be Trey man because he has an established role. He’s the backup point guard. He comes in when LaMelo Ball comes out. You need that type of guy. You need maybe a change of pace point guard and he is really good in that role. So, is it going to be Coniple or is it going to be Colin Ston? Ston is a more proven veteran player. Khan Canipple is your top five pick. Fourth overall that you’re excited about who was good in summer league been good in preseason so far. Should it Ston’s probably the better player between the two. Kadipple is probably going to be the starter on opening night. So, we’ll see what that lineup looks like tonight for Charles Lee. Looking at the whole group of guards like so far we’ve mentioned five names. Canipple Ston LaMelo Miller Trey Man not on this roster. Rico Dowel will there’s still five or six guys beyond those five we haven’t mentioned. Young guys like Liam McNeely and KJ Simpson. Veterans like Spencer Denwitty, Josh Green. How about your boy Pat Coneton? And don’t look at him. Pat Conetan will Yeah, he has returning to Greensboro. Yeah, for the first time since that night, 10 years ago, he was on Notre Dame when they beat North Carolina in the championship game, making it rain for Mike Bray’s Irish. Hornets Guards, the main event in Greensboro later tonight. Looking forward to being there. If you’re in attendance at the Coliseum, feel free to drop by and say hello. [Applause] Pretty good crop of sound you have there. Pretty good batch. Through six weeks of the NFL Survivor Pool, I’m still alive. Looking at my pool, 25 of 118 left standing. This week’s pick is locked in. I’ll share what that pick is next on the drive. The drive with Josh only. Dude Blue Devils football is right here on WSJS. Don’t miss out on the action made possible by First Horizon Bank, Big Bank Muscle, Smalltown Hustle, and heard exclusively on WSJS along with the Duke Daily Report and the Duke Football Radio Show. I hit him like this. Saturday, the Blue Devils welcome the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets to Wallace Wade Stadium. 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You always I always honor my You do, but I have to wait and remind you. You have to remind me. I I remember. If I didn’t say anything today, would you have gotten me coffee? Probably not. So, I had to remind you. That’s what that means. Do I need to remind you that you’re no longer in the survivor pool? No. Because you decided to take a below 500 team in week four. Bunch of crap. Wasn’t very smart, was it? Or that was week four. I don’t know. Ask Philly how that turned out for them. How do you mean? Oh, last week. Mhm. Got it. Well, I didn’t take Philly. you decided to take the Giants on the road with a rookie quarterback and it didn’t go well. You didn’t have to do that. So now you’re eliminated. Just like most of the people in this survivor pool that I’m in, 25 of 118 are left standing. I’m one of those 25. This week’s pick right now in best bets. I’m not a betting duck. Care to make it interesting? You know you do. You’re on. Call me in on this. Your best bet. But my money’s on the other team. This is Josh’s best bets. I think my dad’s stealing my picks. Is that right? He’s one of the 25 left standing, too. And Will, after week one, he has had the same five picks as I have the last five picks. Last week, he texted me, “Who you taking on Tuesday?” He hasn’t sent that text yet, but now I told him last week, “No, it’s starting to get competitive.” However, here’s the problem with this approach and thinking. This is a program that anybody can listen to. Thus, he could be listening right now and just take the same pick that I’ve selected thus far. So, here are the six teams I’ve taken. Will, last week it was the Green Bay Packers against Cincinnati. I’ve also taken Philadelphia, Baltimore, Tampa, Buffalo, and Detroit. So, I can’t use any of those teams. Here are the three that I looked at, circled, and considered for my week seven survivor pool pick. Starting with the New England Patriots at the Tennessee Titans. The Patriots look like a playoff team right now. Drake May looks like an MVP candidate. Tennessee, what’s the word that Cam Ward used to describe that club? Ass. It’s what he said. They just fired their coach. The Patriots are at the Titans and it’s a seven-point spread. I’m not taking the New England Patriots. As Jackson Dart taught us, the first game, things generally go well, especially when you’re at home when there’s a change. The Titans, everybody’s down on them right now. The Patriots are on the road. A young quarterback. If I’m going to go down, Will, I’m not going to go down taking Drake May when there are better options. available. Second team I considered the Denver Broncos facing whom? Your New York Giants. I’m not taking Denver for two reasons. Number one, the Broncos are coming off a London trip. Yep. So that’s not a great turnaround. Number two, the Giants have had extended time to prepare for this game. So that is a preparation disparity that is going to scare us off from taking Denver in this spot. Which brings us to the game I actually am taking. The Kansas City Chiefs are hosting the Vegas Raiders. It’s in Arrowhead. There isn’t a team in the NFL that looks better than Kansas City has the last well certainly this past Sunday, few weeks now. Last couple weeks. Yeah. Sunday Night Football and then the game before that. Yeah. So, Kansas City is our selection for this week. Vegas beat Tennessee. Now they’re going to Arrowhead. If I’m going to lose, Will, it’s with Patrick Mahomes. at home that I’m going to go down, but I don’t think I am against the Raiders. What do you think? Am I making the right choice with Kansas City at home against the Raiders versus the Patriots in Tennessee or the Broncos at home against the Giants? I mean, listen, you very easily could have gone New England. There’s definitely a strong case for that. the Giants and the Broncos. That’s a little scarier, but I think you’re making the right choice. Yeah, because there are some other ones that feature teams that I’ve already taken. Can’t take, you know, the Packers again. The Packers are playing Arizona, but even though that game’s on the road at Arizona, there are teams you just can’t take. That’s how this works now at this point. So, there you go. not taking the Carolina Panthers at the Jets. That sounds like something Will Dalton would do. No. In week seven, yeah, Carolina’s just gonna win the game. Not taking any quarterback in the 41-year-old bowl. Steelers, Bengals. Did you see what they called that? The Icy Hot Bowl rather than the Ice Bowl. The Icy Hot Bowl. Yeah. Scott writes in, “What about the Seattle Seahawks?” Houston Monday night at home. Oh, never mind. That’s next week, I think. No, no, no. That is this week. No, that’s the 20th. That’s next week. They uh Well, Dalton, that’s Monday night. Oh, wow. Seattle hosting Houston. 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So, we mentioned what to watch tonight from a Charlotte Hornets perspective. You shouldn’t expect to see any Grizzly stars tonight. You shouldn’t expect anything from Memphis. Honestly, John Morant, Jiren Jackson Jr., they have not played at all in the preseason. Both are dealing with injuries. Both are listed as dayto-day as of yesterday. Beyond that, Brandon Clark, Zack Edy, they’re for sure out. Those guys are going to miss time in the regular season. So, Will Dalton, don’t know if you’re going to get your wish to see Zack Edy in person. Don’t know if he’s traveling when he’s dealing with an injury to Greensberry or not. Uh, the closest thing to a recognizable name on the Memphis Grizzlies roster if you’re a casual basketball fan is Contavius Caldwell Pope. It’s the best thing we got for you. Either that or Virginia Cavaliers legend Ty Jerome. That’s those are the two. This is a young basketball team. This doesn’t look like a good basketball team, but they are a young basketball team. Now, if you are a college basketball nerd, or as some would call it in 2025, a college basketball sicko, the Grizz does have some doozies. There are two local legends, Will, that never played a minute at either of those local schools. Cedric Coward, who committed to Duke from Washington State, kept his name in the draft, and was taken in the lottery. And how about North Carolina Tarheel legend Gigi Jackson? GG, what’s up? We finally get to see Gigi play in the Coliseum, you guys. We always knew it would happen. I remember sitting next to GI Jackson. It was me and in the chair directly he had the window seat. I sat next to GI Jackson on the way back from the final four in 2022. Oh, did you know that on the way back from uh this is something that just didn’t come up because we had quite a bit to talk about after that game. G you think after coach Kay’s last game against North Carolina in the final four on the plane ride back GI Jackson sitting in the seat next to me and I made a mistake. What’ you do? Duke was he was considering Duke and he was telling me, “Yeah, man. Nolan Smith has been so good to me.” And I said to him, “Oh, no one’s leaving Duke.” Because Nolan told me that the night before and he was about to tell John Shy he was leaving to join Kenny Payne at Louisville. Gigi didn’t know that yet. Wow. Sorry. So, you might be the reason that Gigi didn’t show up to Duke. Maybe it’s possible. Still haven’t told John Shire that. I might keep it to yourself. Or Nolan that. I don’t think Nolan minds though because I bet Nolan tried to get him to flip to Louisville probably. So that didn’t work out. No, he went to South Carolina. Oh, how about this? Yukon national champion Cam Spencer. Remember when that dude crushed the Tar Hills at MSG? He’s uh on this Memphis squad as well. So there you go, Will. This is the best sales pitch you’re gonna find. Oh, the Memphis Grizzlies tonight. We got KCP, Ty Jerome, Cedric Coward, Gigi Jackson, and Yukon National Champ Cam Spencer. Let’s go. Let’s go. It’s all about LaMelo. Let’s just be honest. What? No, I know. I’m just being What are you talking about? Are you a LaMelo guy? She whatever gave that. Yeah, I like LaMelo. I like the way he plays. Kenan writes in, “Lol, pregame, the Price is Right.” One of our listeners is potentially going on the Price is Right. Yeah, we’re going to pregame that. Absolutely. Be great. Might even do a power hour at 10 in the morning. Hey, now get ready for the Price is Right. So when the music Hey, that’s Drew Carrie. It’ll be like He looks great. Yeah. It’ll be like when just when I was a kid when I would be sick from school. Get fired up for the prices, right? Bob Barker coming out. Can’t wait. Let’s go. No, we’re going to watch that as a show. That’s what we’re going to do. 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See you on the next Triad Today. Take care. The only station you need for news, talk, and sports. WSJS Winston Salem, Greensboro, High Point, Burlington. Online at wsjs.com. Drive with only onjs. [Music] It’s time for the five things at 5. All right, people. Take five. Brought to you by Precision Garage Door, where their five things are evening and weekend appointments available at no extra charge. Incredible and happy service, fully stocked trucks. They don’t leave until the issue is fixed. Their service people are licensed and insured and they service the state of North Carolina, Triad, Raleigh, and Charlotte. Here are the top five stories trending now. And they’re brought to you by our friends at Precision Garage Door. A lot to do this hour, including Dave Clawson joining us a half hour from now. Five Things at Five gives us a chance to tell you what’s happening in sports. So, without further ado, let’s get to the list. Number five, we’ve reached that point where we’re following both the Carolina Hurricanes and the Charlotte Hornets. Charlotte is in Greensboro tonight. Will Dalton and I will be there watching the Hornets face the Memphis Grizzlies. 7:00 tip for a preseason game. Also, awful announcing Will has interviewed our guy Eric Collins. Yeah, that Eric Collins about his first NFL game. And here’s a quote that he gave about getting the chance to do that. I do college football for Fox Sports. I’ve done so consistently for years. My crew had that weekend specifically off. So, I was told, “Hey, are you available to do an NFL game if we have one?” A lot of moving parts go into it. So, I knew there was a chance I was going to be on the schedule. I didn’t know where. I didn’t know what game it would be. Just lucky circumstances. I happened to live in Charlotte. Not necessarily a Panther fan, but the game happened to be here locally, so that was kind of fun. Eric Collins. Everybody love that. We did talk with Adam Amin who called the Cowboy game about Eric Collins. And everybody who also works in the NBA, he’s the TV voice of the Chicago Bulls in addition to being a national announcer for Fox says that Eric Collins is revered. Everybody loves Eric Collins. Uh, special shout out to the Carolina Hurricanes, the 3-0 Carolina Hurricanes. [Music] 5 to one winners in San Jose last night to open up this West Coast trip. Number four. Speaking of last night, we’re halfway to a Mariners Dodgers World Series. It’s not just that those two teams are up two games to zero in their respective championship series. It’s that both teams have won the first two games on the road. You know the saying, well, it’s not a series until a team wins on the road, right? Well, how about when a team wins twice on the road at this point? Not great for the Brewers. Not great for the Blue Jays. Obviously, the Blue Jays need to figure out a way to win today. There’s only one team in history that’s fallen behind or jumped up three games to nothing and didn’t end up winning the series. Who is that? Number three, that would be the 2004 New York Yankees, of course. Uh Mariners, Dodgers. That would be a perfect World Series. You with me on this, right? It’d be a good one. It would be. It’s a West Coast World Series. I know TV execs probably wouldn’t like it. Oh, we want to have an East Coast team play a West Coast team and oh, we, you know, Seattle’s not a big market. But I I don’t care what the suits think. I What I care about is Cal Raleigh has been the story in Major League Baseball this year. Cal Raleigh is your AL MVP and the Mariners have never won a World Series before or even been to the World Series before and it’s the ultimate David and Goliath type of matchup. We haven’t seen a repeat champion in baseball in 25 years. So, a lot of history at stake if those teams were to meet in the World Series, and I hope that we see it. Number three, it’s not just baseball that we have tonight. Good luck. By the way, it’s Toronto going into Seattle, which is going to be a snake pit while Kirby is on the mound tonight for the Mariners. There’s also football. Yeah, the Delaware Blue Hands. If you want to do some scouting, Demon Deacon fans, Delaware that’s going to be in Winston Salem next month. Three and two Delaware. They’re going to be on ESPN tonight facing Jacksonville State. UTP on CBS Sports Network is at Sam Houston State. Did I even mention what happened with the soccer match last night? Did you watch any of the soccer? You don’t strike me as somebody who’s No, I didn’t. I didn’t catch it. Firing it up. The international soccer. Yeah, that didn’t quite make it into make it onto one of my screens last night either. But we got football tonight. We’ve got, of course, the game in Greensboro as well between the Hornets and the Grizzlies, and we got some baseball and that’s good enough. Number two, the breaking news in the NFL is that the Panthers best pass rusher, Pat Jones, is out for the year. We’ll get into more of what that means for Carolina in about 10 minutes or so, but obviously a huge headline there. Have you been following this Tua story? What? Where he put his teammates on blast and now he’s like, “Oh yeah, I probably shouldn’t have done that.” Yeah. He’s apologizing. Yeah. talking about how they we were late or didn’t show up to team meetings and all that and it just it’s a mess in Miami right now. They’re going to blow it up. I saw somebody say, “How can you expect leadership from a team that has a coach that wears Capri Capri pants on the sideline? Leave Mike McDaniels alone.” Did you put an N on Mike McDaniel? McDaniel. Leave him alone. Uh, and his sneakers and Capri pants. It’s fine. I mean, once you turn 12, you should probably stop wearing Capri pants. They’re fine. Jay Austin writes it, “I stayed up and watched the Canes game last night. Turned out the lights four to one. Still needed extra coffee this morning. # Carolina Culture.” That’s the new hashtag for the Hurricanes. Yeah, man. I I needed some extra coffee, too. And thanks to the Chicago Bears on Monday night. I got that extra coffee from Will Dalton. Glad that you brought that up. Uh we’ll talk Panthers some more Panthers in just a little bit. number one. I part of me wanted to put the media basketball game in Boston as number one on the five things at five, but instead I need to talk about Halloween being right around the corner and let you know, will that in this Spanish town of Teresa or Terrasa, this is in Barcelona or as douchy pretentious people say Bartholona, right? Um I guess Bartholona. Um this town has banned black cat adoptions over fear of Halloween rituals. Oh, you cannot adopt a black cat in this town until after Halloween. Fearful of rituals from October 1st through November 10th. That’s aggressive. You cannot adopt a black cat because, quote, possible risk derived from superstitions, rituals, or irresponsible uses. This is according to an animal welfare service in this town. Why would it have to go through November 10th? Is it one of those things where they celebrate Halloween on a different day or like a Day of the Dead later? Do they celebrate celebrate Halloween on the 31st in Spain? Let’s see here. I I got to do Do you think a simple Google search would help you on that one? Yeah. Uh so yeah, no black cats in Baralona. How do you feel about that? I mean, I I get taking precautions and everything. They um Yeah, if they’re worried that cats are going to be harmed, then yeah, sure. We don’t want anything bad to happen to cats. However, if we think that those cats are still going to be loved, well, this might actually be a bad thing cuz we want cats to be adopted. They celebrate for 3 days in Spain. We want cats to be adopted and cared for. So, if this is a means where people get a cat because it’s close to Halloween, but then they care for that cat after the fact, it might actually be a a bad thing to not allow people to purchase black cats close to the holiday, close to Halloween. So, it’s a three-day deal in Spain. Oh, wow. I’m not a big Halloween person. I want to be a big Halloween person, but it always sneaks up on me given how busy in a sports context the calendar is in October. And I suspect now that I have a child that I will eventually be a Halloween person once again where we’re going to have outfits as a family and that’s exciting. Let’s go to Ben who’s in Kerville. What does Ben want to talk about from K Vegas WD? Uh he is an animal control person. Ben, what do you have? So 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I was an animal control officer in West Texas when I lived out there in love. Love it. And we would not we would not allow uh black cats to be adopted in the month of October either. That’s not just a Spain thing. Okay, good. Um and it was the same logic. Yep. Absolutely. All right. I appreciate that. Ben, um, are you a Texas Tech guy graduate? All right. Guns up. Hell yeah. There you go, Sickum. Now, that’s more of a Balor thing, but there goes Ben in K Vegas by way of Texas Tech. I always have an affinity for I like the folks at Texas Tech because going to East Carolina, getting plugged in with that coaching staff in the early 2010s. Ruff Mcneel came from there. Lincoln Riley came from there. I mean, if you go through that coaching staff, have we done this before? 2006, 2007. No, I don’t think coaching staff. Uh, you had Kevin Sumland, Cliff Kingsberry. Oh, wow. You had Lincoln Riley, Ruffin McNeel, Mike Leech was the head coach. It was insane. Graham Harrell was the quarterback, Michael Crabtree was at receiver. that it was a interesting time. That is pretty nuts. In Leach, Texas, West Welker had just left in the 2000s. Really interesting teams. 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Schedule and tickets available at wsjs.com. Ding ding, boys. School’s in session. Let’s go, man. You’re on the drive with Josh Graham. [Music] [Music] Dave Clawson will be joining the show 15 minutes from now. Let’s get into tonight where we’re going to be in less than two hours. Will Hornets Grizzlies from the Greensboro Coliseum and there’s going to be a strong Duke flavor to the Hornets visit tonight. Mason Plumbley will What do you think Mason Plumbley is going to be feeling now that he’s back with the Hornets and returning to the First Horizon Coliseum later tonight? Probably going to be Do you think he has You think that’s what he’s thinking of first? That was the real question. Maybe not first. Whether or not Do you associate this building more for positive memories or negative? because he won not one but two ACC championships. He was a teammate of John Shier on the national championship team in 2010. Won a year later against North Carolina in the championship game in 2011. That was uh the Kyrie Irving team. Kyrie Irving didn’t play in that championship game. Didn’t matter. Nolan Smith was still on the team and Duke rolled. 2012 was the Austin Rivers team that lost to Lehi in Greensboro in a 215 game to CJ McConnell in company. He was on that squad as well. So, are you saying that that counterbalances or outweighs the the positives that Mason had? No, he’ll probably think about the ACC titles first, then he’ll think about Lehi. Like, we’ll have to ask him later tonight. Yeah, if we run into him. Uh, but it’s not just that. The Duke Blue Devils had two players drafted by Charlotte that we expect to see tonight. Khan Canipple went fourth overall. Seion James, he was taken in round two. Khan could immediately start for Charlotte. I don’t know if he should immediately start. You’re the Hornet fan. I might defer to you. I think he will. Well, that’s not what I’m saying. I I agree. I think he is going to Should a rookie start right away if there’s a better player on the the the roster at his position? Colin Ston is a proven pro. He is, but I think because the Hornets kind of have this youth movement thing going. Uh, and I think Khan works with this starting lineup that includes LaMelo and Brandon Miller and and those guys. I I think he plugs in really well. I think you just rip the band-aid off and get him in there. Rip it off. I think you do it if it last call for phone calls. 3367771600 because we’ve got Dave Clawson joining us in just a little bit. And Seion James seems like a guy who’s probably going to develop in Greensboro this year. Just another reason to check out the Swarm, fresh off its first postseason appearance. 10-year anniversary to the Swarm. Shout out to them. And then you got Memphis rookie Cedric Coward, Duke legend, # brotherhood. You’re shaking your head. It just makes me laugh as all. They still 15 years later have Kyrie Irving in all of their brotherhood stuff. I mean, he was actually on the team, though. 11 games, Will. I get it. But he was still on the team and he’s so they absolutely can claim him. So, Cedric Coward’s going to be great in the pros and we’re not going to see Cedric Coward in any Blue Devil things. Probably not. And Kyrie was There were some folks There were some folks with the the Blue Devils who did not care for those jokes that we were making earlier this year. I’m not going to say not who but like what jokes? Cedric Coward Brotherhood. Brotherhood. Really? No, I’m just saying they they’re serious about the brotherhood stuff, Will. It’s not It’s not to be mocked. I mean, Gigi Jackson’s part of the Carolina family, correct? Get to see him tonight for Memphis as well. But when you watch Cedric Howard tonight, there is going to be some element of what if. Seriously, if he looks awesome, Duke was this close to having that guy, not as a lottery pick, first round player playing in the NBA, but slotting in in between Isaiah Evans and Cam Boozer in the starting five. And if he looks awesome, man, it’s exciting to think about those possibilities. In the same way, Yukon was probably thinking, “Yeah, it’d be pretty cool if we had Cooper Flag on our team last year. Maybe we would be a threetime national champion or a three national champion. Is John Shy going to be in the building? I think so. He’s got all these players. He has an ex teammate there in Plumbley. I think he will. He’s not far away. Durham, that’s a bit of a haul, but he’ll he can get there. Is it? It’s a couple. It’s like Well, oh, never mind. Greensboro. Never mind. I I keep forgetting this game’s in Greensboro, not Charlotte. Yeah, he’ll be there. About to say, is that even an hour? hour and change. Maybe an hour 15. Actually, you know what? No. From Durham, that’s probably like an hour five, hour 10. Oh, he’ll get there. It’s right up the highway. We’ll see if we uh run into John later tonight. Uh getting to the Carolina Panthers. I was prepared to have a segment where we just started talking about the vibes being so good for Carolina. Was so ready to have that conversation because I got a text. The Carolina Panthers only have one player on their 53man roster who isn’t practicing today. And I’m thinking, whoa, Carolina’s won two in a row. They’re at 500 for the first time in four years. They’re playing a winless New York Jet team. You got people talking about firing Aaron Glenn. He’s coached six games in New York. Get your seat belt on. Because they’re the freaking New York Jets, Will. Correct. Um, so I was fully ready to say the vibes couldn’t be better than where we’re at with the Carolina Panthers right now. The problem is that one injured player happened to be Pat Jones, who’s an edge rusher, and then Dave Canal shared with the media today that Pat Jones is out for the remainder of the year. Darn it. Again, thought it was going to be so uber positive. Dave Canawas level positive. Thought it was gonna be Whoa. Austin Corbett was a full go at practice today. People were talking about that dude missing months and months maybe not returning this season and he’s a full go at practice. Jaylen Koker’s a full go at practice. This is fabulous. This is great news. And now your best edge rusher at perhaps the softest position on your depth chart is out for the remainder of the year. Carolina has played six games. Six. The number of sacks Carolina has through six games. Five. five sacks in three game or five sacks in six games. No other team in the league is fewer than seven sacks. And I believe that team has had a buy so far this year. Carolina has fewer sacks than games played so far. And you just lost maybe your best edge rusher. That isn’t great. So, the vibes will not awesome. To improve those vibes, let’s go to a video that’s been going viral over the midst of the day. Let’s go to Boston where Celtics coaches welcomed the media to play a media basketball game. And usually when teams do this, the media plays against the media. Not in Boston. It is Celtics coaches against Celtics media. Roll tape. [Applause] Check the scoreboard. Oh, Celtics coach is 57. Celtics media four. How much do you think Celtics coaches were wanting to run that one up? Well, clearly quite a bit. I mean, that blonde girl that had her hands up there on that shot, great close out right in her eyelids. That shot was great. Great close out though by her. Give her some credit. Didn’t matter. The real question is, okay, you got us in basketball. Does that mean that you get to interview the uh the media people after a tough loss, so we know how it feels like? You should. And then Joe Missoula writes a gamer. Celtics media ran into a tough a tough challenge. Ran into a do a buzzsaw. That was the Celtics coaches. I still think we could take Wake the Wake coaches. You think? Then again, BJ Mackey might he he he could give us buckets probably, but Forbes, no. Jason Shay, he probably could rebound a little bit. Randolph’s not an assistant anymore, so I don’t have to worry about Randolph. No, Randolph would take it himself. Randolph would. That’s it. Don’t have to worry about that. I don’t want to face Carolina staff. I don’t want to face Duke staff. No, you you don’t want to get run. I do. 57. Well, that’s not nice. W That’s weird. You want to get run 57 to four? Not run. You want to fanboy out against the the coaches that you’re playing against? Jeff Lebo would rain threes on your eyelids. It would be fun to be on the same floor and play against former Tarheelss that I grew up watching. That’s weird. Not to me. Okay. 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I don’t know if it’s true or not. So I just saw David Burn in concert. It was an incredible show and the last song we played was Psycho Killer. So, um, your your entry to the uh, interview was very appropriate. So, you nailed it, Josh. Good job. I give all the credit to Will D. He’s the one that deserves it for that. Uh, you are doing work with the ACC network uh, now, but I was reminded over the weekend of your farewell press conference a little bit last December. You made a point before you even knew who your successor would be at Wake Forest to extend a courtesy saying be patient with him the way you were patient with me. Give him time. But here we are. Dick Dickert 4 and two. Frankly, it should be top five and one with a top 20 win as Wake Forest turns the corner to the second half of the year. What has impressed you the most watching what Jake has done so far? Well, first of all, Josh, I do think it is a different era now because of the transfer portal. um that that people probably aren’t going to be as patient with coaches um that they once were and uh you know because of NIL and the portal Jake was able to bring in 62 players and I think when you bring in that many more new players it takes time to gel and I think they’re starting to gel. Um you know they are are starting to get a feel for what he wants and what his expectations are and the different schemes and the way they call plays. And I said it on my show the other day in the ACC network. Um I I think they’re probably the most improved team in the league from game one to game six. Um and in the second half of the season, the schedule’s going to get tougher. Uh but you know, they’re certainly capable of getting to a bowl and I think capable of you know, of getting a seventh or an eighth win if they can pull an upset or two here. You remind me of something that Dave Canales talks a lot about with the Panthers. Finding us, finding what that identity is, and he says sometimes it happens a lot later than you want it to be. Sometimes it hits early on. What does that look like behind the scenes between weighing what you see in games and what works versus what you see in practice, evaluating personnel? How do you find an identity behind the scenes? Now, I always thought uh by the end of September, if you haven’t found your identity, you’re probably in trouble. Um, and I think it’s just the nature of college football is you don’t have pre-season games. And so, you you start a season out and you go through spring football and you think, okay, this is where we’re good and this is where we’re deficient. So, how do we take advantage of our best players and um kind of maximize their impact on the game while minimizing uh the areas that you’re weakest, you know? So, if you’re really good in the secondary but not good up front, you know, you may blitz a little bit more and play more man coverage. Or if you have a really good O line, uh you’re not as good at receiver, you know, maybe uh you run the ball a little more. And and and again, that’s basically coaching is assessing your personnel. um maximizing your strengths, limiting your weaknesses. And that was one of the reasons I always preferred to play our four non-conference games in September. That after going through spring football and fall camp, if we were a little bit off of what we thought our strengths were, we had September to figure that out and then hopefully we knew what our identity was as we head into the conference schedule. Um, and I think that’s even more so with the transfer portal and how quickly rosters change over is, you know, a lot of times you don’t even have your whole roster in the spring. And, you know, if you’re think you’re really good in fall camp at receiver, you might not be good that good at receiver. You might just not be very good in the secondary. And when you play other teams, you start figuring that out the hard way. Dave Clawson’s with us here. I would love to get your observations about two teams playing each other this weekend and what appears to be the game of the week in the ACC on ESPN at noon. It’s Georgia Tech 12th in the country visiting Duke. I think there are a lot of assumptions being made about Miami as one of the best teams in the country. So if we’re to assume that Charlotte is in their sights in front of them, likely their opponent’s going to be one of the league’s three 3 and 0 teams between Georgia Tech, Duke, and Virginia. How much separation do you see between those two? And what intrigues you about Georgia Tech, Duke? Well, first of all, right now there’s five undefeated teams in the league. Um, and because of how big the conference is, there’s only three games between those teams. Nuts. You know, Miami is going to play SMU. Uh, Duke and Georgia Tech are going to play, and Duke and Virginia are going to play. Mhm. So Duke is the only team that has more than one game against the undefeated teams. And you know, because nobody really controls their their own destiny because of that. Um, in a lot of ways, this week could be an elimination game that the the whoever doesn’t win this game um now needs help. So again, I should reward that. All the undefeated teams control their destiny. the second you lose one game because of how many undefeated teams there are, you don’t. And uh so this is going to be a great game against two of the I think the best teams in the league. And I think Virginia is going to factor in there. Um obviously SMU is is undefeated as well. Um but SMU has a really really tough schedule down the stretch. Now they have yet to lose an ACC game and if that continues obviously they’ll be in Charlotte as well. But Georgia Tech is a really good team that their quarterback has elevated them into a great team. Again, I think if you had any other quarterback in the country at Georgia Tech right now, they’re still a good team. They’re probably a eight and four, nine and three team. Hannes King elevates that whole football team. um his ability to run the ball, uh his toughness, uh the clutch player he is, his ability to bring him back from behind, his ability to lead a two-minute drill. Uh to me, right now, he he’s the MVP of the league, and I would put Carson back right behind him. Um and Georgia Tech is good everywhere with a special differencemaker quarterback. His impact actually is reminiscent, I think, of the impact that Sam Hartman had on your group in 2021 in terms of how little attention it’s getting. You were right to point out that year, hey, if this guy had another logo on the helmet, we’re talking about this guy being a Heisman contender. It’s crazy. Top five in the ACC regardless of position in rushing. Hannes King, nine touchdowns. And then that you don’t even mention the passing that he’s done too. If he wins this game and Georgia Tech’s a top 10 team in the country, Allah, your team was top 10 in the country a couple of times. We need to start talking about Haynes King in that context, right? Yeah, Josh. But I just think again, you you’re in the media business, right? and you understand this as well as anybody that the barrier to entry to get in that conversation if you’re not at a blueb blood is really hard. Right? So it really in some ways Haynes King doesn’t have to be as good as the Alabama quarterback or the Miami quarterback or the Notre Dame running back. he’s got to be so much better because you don’t start a season with eyes on Georgia Tech. And you know, they’ve risen to this level because of how well they and he have played. Um but it’s just it’s a tough barrier. You know, if you’re at a Wake Forest, out of Georgia Tech, out of Syracuse, um you could have the most impactful player in the country. Um, but it’s just tough because when you put on uh, you know, ESPN for the prime time games, you know, you’re always going to have the Georgia, the Alabama, the Texases, the Penn States, the Ohio States, the Miami, the Florida States, the Clemsons, uh, just because of the the brand equity that those programs have built up over over the past 10, 20, 50, 100 years. And it’s just the way it is. Dave Clawson with us here. One reason we knew that you would be very good at TV being in press conferences with you over the years. You are allergic to being dishonest. Like you you just ooze honest almost to a fault sometimes. And that sometimes got me in a little bit of trouble, Josh. But thank you. which is why I as soon as I saw the Penn State news happen over the weekend, I I’m just fascinated in what you make of this because this is the first time I can remember where the most coveted job opening in the country. You know, just let go of a coach who’s now the most coveted candidate in the country. James Franklin fits in pretty much any job out there and is going to be the hottest name. and Penn State, the place that fired him, is going to be the most coveted job you could make an argument. So, starting on the Penn State end of it, like what kind of resume, what kind of criteria fits for that type of job? Well, I I think that job um you know becomes like an Ohio State or a Notre Dame or a Texas or an Alabama or a Georgia that if you take that job, the expectation is to not go to the national championship or to go to the playoffs, but is to win it. Right? because you just fired a coach that a year ago went 13-3 finished with the highest ranking Penn State has had in decades and three weeks ago was 3 and 0 and had the number three team in the country. Um and and again it’s you know I’m friends with James. Um I visited Penn State uh this August and spent time with his program. Um, but that’s just the way college football is now, you know, and I think now that, you know, players are are being paid and you can build up a roster with the transfer portal, um, that, you know, the five-year plan or four-year plan of building a program no longer exists. And I really think Penn State, and again, I I don’t know everything that goes on in their program. Maybe there’s another reason they did this that we’re not privy to, but I think they said like, okay, two years ago, Michigan went allin, kept all their good players, and won a national championship. And last year, Ohio State did the same thing and won a national championship. And I think that the pre-season uh talk and rhetoric was, okay, now Penn State did that, right? They brought in Jim Nolles from Ohio State. They kept their offensive coordinator. Uh they kept their quarterback. They kept their two tail backs. They kept all their defensive players. It was their turn. This was their year. And when you spend that type of money and create that expectation, um, you know, there people expect results and they expect them now. And, um, so in some ways, you know, that’s just where we are. Um, but again, I think James can be very proud about what he accomplished at Penn State. you know, where the program was when he took it over. Uh, getting through the the scandals and convincing a lot of great players at Penn State was a great place to get an education and play football. Um, you know, I think history will be very kind to to James Franklin and the job he did at Penn State, but that is college football and that’s where, you know, when people talk about the process in building, they don’t want to hear about that anymore. you know, you maybe get at best three years, in some places only two years now to build a program. You understand how small the coaching industry can be. So, you tell me just how respected James Franklin is and if I’m right to think because of his resume that right now he’s going to be the number one name on pretty much any of the top schools considering coaches, right? Yeah, you would think that. The only thing I’d say, Josh, is I don’t think the coach if he wants to coach. I I don’t think the public or fans understand what an emotional investment you make into your football program when you’re at a place for that long. I mean, you know, for 11 years, Wake Forest football was my life. I mean, it was 24/7. That’s what I thought about. And I took vacations and I did stuff with my family, but I was almost always distracted because my mind was always on Wake Forest football and how can we make this better and whether you’re dealing with player issues or recruiting issues or staff issues. And you know, I think in a lot of ways, and again, I’m not that close with James, that, you know, it might be good for him to take a little time off and just get a little bit of an emotional reset, you know, and and this is where people, I think, again, don’t get it. Wow, he’s going to get paid $49 million. We should all be so lucky. Uh when you coach, very few of us got into this to the money. And again, we don’t turn it down. No, I guarantee you James Franklin isn’t happy he’s not coaching the Penn State football team and he would give up a lot of that money to still be with his players and his staff and all those people that he brought to Penn State uh to build that program. Um and so when something like that happens, it kicks your butt pretty good. And you know, he’ll have to make the decision of whether he wants to jump back into it or whether he needs a little bit of a break. Um, you know, I I think sometimes a little bit of a reset can be really healthy physically, mentally, emotionally. Um, because when you do that job, there’s no escape. It is such a narrow life. And we love it. We choose to do it. We’re well compensated for it, but it takes a lot out of you when it when it doesn’t go well. He’s also another guy who’d be really good at doing what we’re doing right now. I’m sure you can give him some pointers if he were to. Well, I don’t know about that. I’m I’m still I’m still a rookie at this business and uh you know, it’s it’s u it’s it’s a different pace. But again, Josh, you know this, you know, in this business, you have to work hard, too. Yeah. Right. I mean, it’s I have a one-hour show I do with Taylor Tan Bomb on Mondays, and you know, the amount of prep that to get ready for that show is 8, 10, 12 hours for a one-hour show. I’ll show you. This is the sheet of paper that we got here. And we got three more right here. So you you now understand. And the art of this business is showing up and acting like you just showed up and making everything a conversation. But the only reason that happens successfully is because of all the prep work you do. And uh and as a football coach, I I love the prep as much as I love the games. And so I enjoy the prep for this job as well. Let’s close with uh North Carolina. Among the noteworthy comments from Bill Bich this week was an acknowledgement that he and Mike Lombardi when they took the job fell a little bit behind on the transfer portal front. Mike, he said that this roster was worse off than it was than when we got into the spring portal and said it was improved from that point. Uh, nobody could have possibly imagined it look like this a month and a half in. But what’s most surprised you about the onfield product you’ve seen? Well, Jess, the uh you know, kind of the the lack of skill. I mean, you know, with M. Brown, North Carolina always and even Larry Fedora, they always had really good skilled players. And you know, North Carolina made a very very large investment. Um but you know, if if I jumped to the NFL, there would be an adjustment for me. If I jumped to high school, there would be an adjustment for me. Um, I mean, anybody who who’s ever worked with Bill Bich or talked football with him always says he is one of the smartest football coaches, if not the smartest they’ve ever met. He’s smart. He’ll figure it out if he wants to do that. Um, and you know, when you haven’t been in college football, a lot of times the kids you get in the portal are kids that you recruited and they didn’t pick you out of high school, but there’s a pre-existing relationship and you know the landscape and you’ve evaluated all these kids and you know, he and his one son was in college for a year, but Lombardi, those guys all came from the NFL and so they they didn’t bring a lot of existing relationship ships in college football and every year that goes by, you know, that’ll get better. It’s just a ma matter of how patient are people going to be because as we’ve seen with James Franklin, this is not this is not a patient business and um you know, but I’m sure it’ll get better. Um and it’s just a matter of how quickly and how good. Dave Clawson, keep up the great work. Thank you for doing this and we’ll catch up sometime a few weeks from now. Yeah, I’m a lot more patient with these things now, Josh, that I don’t have a game this weekend. So, I apologize in the past if I was uh a little bit more stressed and anxious. It was the nature of what my job was. Completely get it. Dave Clawson joining us here. WD, what do we got? And take it to the house. This woman took hammer time a little too literally. Every time I take Daniel to daycare, there’s this little stuffed ta hammer that he loves and he I say, “Is it is it hammer time?” And he grabs it and swings the hammer. I don’t think that’s what you were talking about. Take it to the house next. You’re on the drive with WJ. It’s a cautionary tale in life. If you want to grow, don’t seek comfort. It kind of feels like a friends and family staff. He’s seeking comfort. You can’t coach in a gated community. The herd is here. That’s right. The herd with me, Colin Coward on WSJS. Join me week nights 6 till 9:00 p.m. Yes, I’m opinionated. I make you think though, I hope. And react 6:L 9. It’s the herd on WSJS. 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We got to get to the coliseum. If you haven’t already, make sure you’re subscribed to the podcast. Search the Dry with Josh Graham, iTunes, Apple Podcast, Spotify, the best hour of what we do available on demand in case you missed any of what we did today. The YouTube channel, you can watch some of the great interviews that we’ve put together, including probably the one we did with Dave Clawson right there. Who knows? Uh on the YouTube channel, subscribe to the Drive with Josh Graham channel. That’s how you can watch the show in addition to listening to it. That’s a great way to help us out, though. Like, comment, subscribe. We appreciate it. To close things out, we take it to the house. Pass the 15. Pass the 10. Pass the five for the drive. We’ll take it to the house. 1 2 3 [Music] Hammer in Akaloosa County. Great name. Yeah. This uh 20-year-old woman was arrested after apparently she threw a hammer at her at a uh police officer. Yeah. So members of the sheriff’s office there uh they were conducting an investigation when this girl named Victoria arrived on the scene according to the report there. Uh, and it states that the officers were in uniform and they were using their parked patrol vehicles for cover because she allegedly threw a cell phone and then a large hammer at the officers in an unprovoked way. Luckily, the hammer did not strike any of the officers. The cell phone did strike one of them right in the head. That probably didn’t feel so great, but at least it wasn’t a hammer. And um yeah, so that’s all according to that report. She did not provide a statement due to her lack of cooperation according to the report. Uh no, I I don’t know what the motive was. The story doesn’t say, but uh she was charged with aggravated assault and aggravated battery on an officer. How lovely. Hammer. Hammer time. We’ll see how tonight goes. LaMelo, I’m excited. When’s the last time you watched a Hornet game? Up close. Uhhuh. Up close. Uh, it was 2017. Really? That long? LeBron, actually, no. Uh, 2017ish. I went to a handful of games around that time. Like, I went and I saw LeBron in the Cavs. So, we’re talking eight years. Yes. LeBron and the Cavs were in town. I saw uh the Knicks one time when they came to Charlotte. So, this will be fun for you. Yes. I’m very excited. Never seen LaMelo up close before. Hopefully, we see him tonight. Fingers crossed. Preseason finale, regular season dress rehearsal. If you’re out at the Coliseum, feel free to say hello to us. We’d love to meet you. We’ll talk to you tomorrow with plenty to talk about on a Thursday drive. Who can get the best care? We’ll break it all down.