Cardinals Underground – Seasons In Season, Microbursts, And Pack Prep

Cardinals Underground – Seasons In Season, Microbursts, And Pack Prep

You know, it seems like um what just a few weeks ago we were talking about the u hellacious haboo to come through the Phoenix area, right? Probably because it was just a few weeks ago. I was going to say that’s when I got stranded in a grocery store cuz you told me I was good to drive. Paul, you know, it was in sync with the Thursday night football and the whole rivalry uniforms, you know, and the sandstorm, the dust storm got recreated in the stadium. M are we on too short notice for stadium operations to maybe recreate a micro burst? I didn’t even know what that was before Monday. I’d never heard of that before. Those of us who live in Tempee, I I I got to be honest. I drove home to my neighborhood in the on one end of the neighborhood. I was coming just off of uh Warner uh into my neighborhood and that spot particularly, I drove down. Now, I saw I saw much worse video than this, but when I first turned in, there was all these trees down. And there was one major tree that had taken down a concrete wall and I’m like, “Oh god, oh god, oh god, I do not want to drive up to my house and have something happen.” But fortunately, apparently didn’t get over there. Can I say micro burst is the exact football forecast the Cardinals need. Okay, how about a flurry of football week seven against the Packers, right? Timber, down go the Packers. Something like that. You know what I mean? Cheese everywhere. That was a stretch. Cheese heads everywhere. You know, just just just a statement. You know, it’s sort of like the like the weather gods just made a a statement with that 20 minute micro burst. You know, Cardinals come out there four quarters of micro burst football and just sort of wipe everything away and reset going into the buy. I’m okay with that. How about that? Sure. What a green. Maybe, you know, maybe can they get a video like on the scoreboard like the Packers team bus trying to cross like a wash, you know what I mean? Like a flooded wash and oh, the Packers team bus gets swept away or something like that, you know, simulate something. Darren’s not with me on that. I know. I I I mean, you you have a you have a straight line to our boss surf. You can ask him. That’s right. Well, it just be another video request. Another in a long line of I’ll just throw it out there in two days notice. All right, here we go. Cardinals underground. Paul Calvi, Danny Surak, Darren Urban. Uh Danny, how are you uh mentally? How are the nerves? Four straight game comes down to the final seconds, the final few plays, and now it’s that was your largest margin of defeat, by the way. Four points. Four games decided by a total of nine points. Hearing that four games decided by nine total points makes you believe when head coach Jonathan Ganon says his team is close. They are close. They are just one play away from turning those losses into wins. It’s frustrating. I mean, you’re down on the field, too, Paul. I’m down there at the end of the game when the Cardinals are making a push in Indianapolis and they’re driving the ball down the field. They’re scoring throughout all four quarters, which is not something we’ve seen from this offense really all season. And then you have that final play and tight end Trey McBride in the end zone is visibly upset. He’s livid he doesn’t get that holding call. The Cardinals were just one play away from getting that win in Indianapolis. It’s frustrating. There are positives to take away which we will go on to depth a little bit more here. But like the end of the day, there’s no moral victories. Look, you got to decide is this who you are as a team. Are you more than this? You know, Jacksonville a year ago went three and 10 in one score games, whereas Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City won 17 straight over two years one score games. So to Danny’s point, it’s more the norm than the exception in the NFL, one score games, especially this year, it feels like. Yeah, I I know they just uh I just saw some story AP threw up there about how uh you know how the whole season is tracking. I mean, you got Baltimore at 1 and5, right? Buffalo and Philadelphia started 4-0. Now they’ve lost two straight. KC started out all arai. Now they just beat the Lions. They even their record. So, it’s just a reminder that in the NFL, a season can be more than one season. Not to go all poly pontificate, if you will, here, okay? But it can be more than one season in a single season. Meaning you start out as one team, you become another sort of team. Maybe by the end of the year you’re yet you’ve evolved and morphed into a different iteration sometimes because of injury. I mean are the Cardinals the same offense minus James Connor? Are they the same run game? Do they have the same mentality, the same DNA minus James Connor and then Trey Benson? No, they don’t have the same run game efficiency. But they’re not going to get any sympathy from anyone else. I mean, look at the Niners. You stinking lost Fred Warner on top of everyone else. So, you do, it’s one season, but within that season, you can be a different team at different times for different reasons. That’s almost the beauty of it to be two and four right now. If the Cardinals beat the Packers three and four, not where you ideally want to be going into the by-week, but then you’re just one game back from 500 and you can still turn things around and make a push late in the season. Yeah. I mean, whenever I I’ve talked to Rabbit Taylor Demerson the last couple weeks, and he specifically keeps harping on how that they have a lot of football in front of them and and normally that’s a cliche, but in the in the in the league that we’re talking about right now, I mean, so many of these teams that had hot starts are no longer there. If I took if I took all the records off the table and I did a power ranking right now, I would probably put the Chiefs number one in the league right now. They’re getting Rasheed Rice back and they’ve beaten a couple of good teams and they’re starting to look like the Chiefs. So, like things can change. Now, does that mean this team is all of a sudden going to start winning score games that it hasn’t? I’m I’m not willing to say that because they’ve got to prove it, but they know they have to prove it. But at the same time, like, can you see a 9 and8 team making the playoffs this year? I think you can with the way the league is going. And if that’s true, then you do have there are is a lot of football left. And it’s going to be fascinating to see kind of how this plays out and what this game looks like. And I do feel like it feels like this Packers game, the Colts game was huge. It would have been a big deal to be three and three. But if you can somehow get a win and be three and four going into your buy, you know, things change. And I I’m not saying that that’s going to be a guarantee. the Packers are a good team, all that stuff. But I’m not putting anything past anyone anymore. And we can talk all we want about quarterback and we will, but if you don’t figure out find a way to finish, doesn’t matter who the quarterback is. And so I know this is the uh question of the season so far, but anybody care to define the formula for finishing? What is missing? You know, if the players and coaches know, they’re not sharing it with us media types. So, I’ll put the question to you guys. What is the formula for finishing? You know, it’s funny you bring that up about like if the coaches and players know they’re not sharing. If the coaches and players knew, they would fix it. I’ I’ve never understood. Somebody asked me a very general question about like, okay, enough. You’ve been around this. I’m not looking for opinion. I’m just looking for facts. What would it take for Ganon to make this a winning franchise? I’m like, well, Jonathan Ganon’s not sitting up in his office ignoring that question. Um, Monte Aenfort is trying to make it a winning franchise. The players are are trying to do it. That doesn’t It’s like anything else in the world. I mean, first of all, unlike most jobs, I think this is my opinion on this, but unlike most jobs, their job is has so many more variables in it because other people’s jobs are to mess with their job when it comes to games. Like when you do a job, when the mailman goes and does his job, when whatever like you have almost full control over your job to do it right, whereas they can do, we hear the cliche all the time, control what you can control, but the problem is is their job, most of it is out of their control. You can do certain things, but like as we’ve all seen before, the cliche, well, the other guy gets paid, too. Like you could run a perfect play and it still could get effed up. So, I I guess winding this all the way back like it’s not like they’re not trying to win and I and I get I absolutely get the frustration. I I get the frustration, but there’s Take the Trey McBride play. You guys were down on the field. I I was down in the tunnel like literally in the corner and I’m not down on the field nearly as much as I used to be, but I was down in that corner and I saw it un uh it was coming right at me and my first thought is, “Oh, they get a flag.” And then they didn’t. And it’s the NBA. If if it was if it was the second quarter, they’re gonna swallow the whistle at the very end. It’s gonna have to be really blatant. And and I will say this and and I’m not putting a blame on anybody. If Britt’s pass is closer, they might throw that flag. But unfortunately, Jacob’s throw was way wide. I’m not even so sure if Trey McBride hadn’t been grabbed, he was getting to it. So all these things play into it. And look, they’re trying to win. I know that doesn’t make anybody feel better or feel better about, you know, what they’ve spent or all that stuff. And and I’m cool with everybody being frustrated, but this again, and I’ve had this happen many times in my 25 years when things aren’t going well. This idea that the players and coaches aren’t trying to win because of whatever I I I’ve never understood. It truly comes down to execution. Offensively, that’s what you need going down the stretch. And defensively, you can’t get worn out. you you cannot allow fatigue to get in the way of technique and execution. What’s frustrating is prior to the Colts loss, the previous three were all losses by a walk-off field goal. When you look at the numbers, the Cardinals defense had actually done a pretty good job. It was just the other team gets just close enough. Now, yes, that is part of the defense, right? Don’t let them get within field goal range, but when you’re looking at it, Arizona had done a pretty nice job at stopping their offenses. It’s really just the fourth quarter. That’s what’s so curious about this is is it just fatigue? Is that really what it is? What it comes down to is you’re playing a full game and the offense is maybe going in high tempo and they’re they’re taking advantage of that. If this team and the coaching staff had a one solution, had one, you know, really obvious answer, they’d be winning games. But see, that’s that’s the when you say, is it fatigue? Like to me, if it was fatigue, I think they would have figured that out and they would have tried to do something about it. I don’t think it’s fatigue per se. Obviously, there’s multiple things going in. Um, but well, it’s intriguing that Jonathan Ganon said on multiple platforms he thought the pass rush was better than maybe we gave it credit for that. They had this pass game, this past game, even late they thought he had some they had some quick wins, but it didn’t sync up with the coverage. So, he didn’t quite specify what he didn’t like about the back end. I’m guessing they weren’t playing tight enough. So when you’re getting to the quarterback quickly and forcing the ball to come out quickly, there’s too much of a cushion. Yeah. And so they’re able to complete it, which I’m sure there’s some fans out there going, “Yeah, too much of a cushion. We’ve been saying that for a month.” But Kausas Campbell did play a season high in snap percentage. Dante Stills, Baron Browning all played season highs and snap percentage. So is some of the attrition along the defensive line coming into play when you Anthony Goodlo and you know and PJ Mustapher and Zack Carter are now part I mean you know is that where the injuries are showing up? Okay, but see here’s here’s where the key to me comes in cuz I saw season high percentage for Kas Campbell. I’m like uhoh. But then I looked at the snaps and it was 33. So they just didn’t have a lot of defensive snaps. He still played right in that 30 to 35 range that he’s supposed to. So I I yeah, they played few enough snaps defensively. I don’t know how fatigue would play into it. It’s just it’s vexing when you only got Indianapolis into a single third down in their last two possessions. So one of the ways they only played so many snaps. I mean, we were uh semi- joking, you know, that NFL network and Angry Runs, they have the scepter if you gave us the magic football wand to go ahead and fix things. I was talking to Craig Guo about this. my to-do list, you know, off the top. One would be finish, two would be offensive line. Now, you had the five out there you always wanted to have out there. Ever since week one of last year at Buffalo, you finally had those five out there. Now, can you get them in sync and and get them playing like they were to begin last season? Number three, I would say probably pass rush in that fourth quarter, affect the quarterback when it matters most. That would put probably where I’d put my to-do list. It just seems like the one constant in these fourth quarters where teams are driving down the field is the quarterback is not being hit and harassed enough. You’re not you’re not using the magic fix one for field goal block. Didn’t we already talk about this? We did. We did. That’s right. So, I’m bringing this back. Uh and then run game. That’s right. This all started on early bird. Yes, it did. But since that was 5:30 in the morning on Sunday, you know what? I don’t feel bad about bringing it back. I had some coffee. Okay. Number four, run game. I would I would say uh and then and then number five, I would put quarterback in there in the downfield passing. And you guys look like you’re in need of a hot take. You guys ready? Always. 400 yards of total offense, 320 yards through the air by Jacobe Brrisette. Do you think there was a correlation, a cause and effect that once Marvin Harrison Jr. went out of the game, you were no long you no longer felt the need or the urgency to target wide receiver one. And now all of a sudden the pass game was pure. It was organic. No antioxidants. You know what I mean? It’s just there. It’s just you’re seeing who wherever the progression and the read takes you, that receivers’s getting the target. I don’t care what number they’re wearing. I don’t love the hot take, Paul. Haven’t we spent the last couple of weeks saying, “Why are we not getting Marvin Harrison Jr. more involved? Why is he not more consistently getting the ball thrown his way outside of the first or the second quarter?” You can’t have it both ways. That just that’s just reality. That’s sort of my point. I’m reverse engineering it. That the need reverse engineering or just reversing course. I think you’re looking for I think you’re reversing my stance correlation. Reversing my opinion that that that need more Trey McBride. No, the need to get it to 18 in the pass game was maybe corrupting the pass game was um coming at the expense of the efficiency of the pass game. No, because we had spent weeks saying why is Harrison the previous game he got targeted once in the second half and it was why are you not getting the ball to your playmaker? I’m sorry to call you out Paul but but that was the storyline. Look it hurt that you lost Harrison early about halfway through in the in the second quarter. I think it’s more just so props to Michael Wilson and Zay Jones and Greg Dorch paired with tight end Trey McBride who really stepped up as receivers as their roles were changing. There were a lot of offensive injuries. Running back Amari D Marcato, tight end Travis Vocal at that point your strongest blocking tight end. You lose your number one receiver. You pair that with a quarterback who looked very calm under pressure. Brassette stayed in the pocket. He was willing to take some hits and he delivered the ball. It wasn’t a perfect game. It was a good game and it was nice to see this offense get rolling. They had seven plays of 20 or more yards to six different receivers. That explosive game was there. Sorry. That bolsters my point, by the way, doesn’t it Darren? Six different receivers. So freaking hard to kill. 20 plus yards a piece organic. Anyway, go ahead. Maybe you just need more cowbell. Like Z Jones said, I’m gonna get off the mic so you can go. Here we go. No, no. Just look, I it’s funny that you bring that up, Paul, in terms of like the Harrison to the other receivers thing. I I don’t I don’t know if there’s correlation or causation there. Like the way the way that passing game had started, I’m not 100% sure you would have seen some of those other receivers do a bunch of stuff even if Harrison had stayed in the game. Um because I Harrison got an early play and then I remember thinking when he made the second one and hurt his head, I remember thinking, “Wow, it took him a long time to get back to Marvin Harrison cuz he playing so well.” That’s what everybody’s thinking. We got to get 18 involved. But so maybe when you’re not thinking, you’re playing. And when you’re just playing, what are the what’s the two words we heard? At least I did for the first time last week. Flow state. All the receivers said it. Here’s the problem. Drew Terrell. I think it’s Drew Terrell’s, you know, word. Basically, it means you’re playing and not thinking. I know. I never recall Paul Calvi coming on Cardinals Underground and saying, “Why if you just weren’t looking for Fitz all the time, we could get Andre Roberts more involved.” You never were saying that. But But with Fitz, was the pass game ever struggling like it had been? One million%. There were times. Well, okay. But that was I’m not going to name names. That’s cuz passes were going into the third row of the end zone. That’s Have we gotten to the point of implying that the passing game struggles have been because of Harrison? No, I’m saying I’m not saying I’m not saying because of the play of Marvin Harrison. I’m saying because maybe the need or the urgency to target the fourth pick overall and make sure he’s productive and you’re getting your money’s worth out of him is is somehow undermining the efficiency of the pass game. That’s not what has been happening, though. He had he had one target in the second half the week prior. So So that that that’s the thing is sure you you you probably want to be balanced not just with the run in the pass game with your receivers as well, but at the end of the day, the passing game had not been going nearly as much as it did against the Colts. And when that’s the case, any team, what are you going to do? You’re going to rely on your reliable playmakers, which are Marvin Harrison Jr. and Trey McBride. Here, I will say that opens up for everyone else. I will say that however they got there to me that is a game that lets you know and Z Jones had kind of a rough start a little bit but that is a game that lets you know that and I’m not sitting here dismissing people that had said all along why didn’t they get another receiver Danny but I actually never said that. I will say I do feel like that game showed what Z Jones and Michael Wilson can give you if if they get some targets like that catch near the end of the game for Michael Wilson down downfield. There was a couple multiple times when you have needed a receiver to show up late in the game late on a fourth down. He has delivered. And I will say I’m going to give Paul some props. It looked like, especially on that last drive, there were times when when the rubber was meeting the road, let’s get the damn ball to your Pro Bowl tight end. And it would have been that last play. Should have been depending on you. Well, and what did Jacobe Brassette say after the game? You know, tell us about the very last snap and he said, “Well, I’m trying to get the ball to the best player on the field.” Yes. And and sometimes sometimes that’s not the best option if wide receiver two, three or four is wide open. No. and and I and I agree with that and and he did a great job like the play of the game for me and there were multiple explosives like Danny said, but the play of the game for me was that uh where he where Brassett’s getting tackled and as he’s going down he gets it to Higgins who ends up turning a eight- yard pass into a 24 yard gain and Zack Gershman our coworker tweeted out that play and was not wrong in saying if a different quarterback had made that play in the league, it would be all over the NFL feeds. If if Patrick Mahomes makes that play, if Josh Allen makes that throw, if Lamar Jackson makes that throw, I believe that as you’re being tackled and you’re throwing it as you’re going down and it turns into that, that’s absolutely over everybody’s feet. Big picture offense specifically, when you needed players to step up, they did. You are without your starting quarterback. You are still without your top two running backs for more than half the game. You were without your number one receiver. You are now without your two top blocking tight ends. And it was the first time those five offensive linemen had played together since the first quarter in Buffalo week one last year. Again, there are no moral victories, but this team showed up when they needed to in terms of when your number is called upon, you go out and you make plays. By the way, as I explained to young Zack, that play on the sideline, the second and 16 where Brassett’s being dragged down and he gets the ball to Elijah Higgins and then he trucks a couple of dudes. The sideline was never more lit, hype, or turnt at that moment. Yeah. Well, unfortunately for Zack Gershman, I mentioned the cowboy earlier. He didn’t have he had no idea of that classic and and which was what was bad about it is I went and then canvased some other youngs, Tanner and Maggie, in the media relations department, and they not only knew it, but like they they had seen the they knew everything about it. So, Zach is just Maybe he was just sheltered. So, that’s on Zack. Okay, that’s good. Just want to know you’re using some words. Are you getting are you culturing us today, Paul? With the use of lit in terms. We can always get better. In fact, let’s get cultured. Uh Danny, we’ll segue to you. Getting cultured with Danny. It is not just directed at Paul. Am I the default uncultured Philistine around here? Yes. You got me very excited. Now, I am on social media and consume more pop culture than both of you combined. I think I’m being unfairly profiled, but go ahead. Let’s go. Starting off with some sad news. Rest in peace to the delicious Chili skillet queso. It is no more. Chili’s has rolled out a Southwest queso supposedly due to low sales. I highly doubt that. People are not happy about it. It looks really watery. So, you can no longer get the classic skillet or the white skillet queso at Chili’s. I see there. I have so many questions starting with. You sure sound like you are experienced in the queso skillet. I would say that I am. True or false? You are on the Chili’s rewards program. You’re a frequent customer. False. I love it, but I wouldn’t say I’m frequent. You know, Caitlyn Apps, our team photographer, when we go to Chili’s, that that’s her order is the skill at Queso. I don’t know what she’s going to do moving forward because if she is a rewards member, she gets like free chips and salsa or whatever, right? You put that into the little thing. Yeah. Yes. Well, I did see online a funny Tik Tok of someone when you cuz I kind of this is a boomer take. I do think it’s kind of a bummer when you pay all by yourself at the table and it’s like, you know, you just do it all on the little screen like you have no interaction. You’re you’re tipping someone who’s not even really waiting on you anymore. Not the point. I saw a video on Tik Tok of someone leaving a comment when he was paying on one of those talking about how they have to bring the queso back. It’s not a boomer take, it’s a co take. That’s what happened during CO like you know they never adapted. Yes. You look they probably still have like a 3 or 6% sir charge because of CO at the bottom of the bill as well. We talked about this all in person. I couldn’t have our first getting cultured without it though. True rest in peace to Diane Keaton who passed away last weekend at the age of 79. Annie Hall classic. Absolute classic. Father of the Bride I think is probably the first movie I saw with her as a kid. No, she was phenomenal. No doubt. Yes. And last but not least, we are once again moving on to the Bay. Bay Area, Half Moon Bay, Paul. Pumpkins, Halloween. It’s the Halloween epicenter of the world. Did you take a peek at my paper? Everybody knows Half Moon Bay and pumpkins. Okay. Well, Half Moon Bay does have an annual pumpkin weighing contest. Did you see how much the jacko’lantern winner weighed this year? All right. Let me guess here. It’s not 1995. I’m coming off. Yeah. I know. Uh, I’m going to say half a ton. I’ll guess 1,118 lbs. Way low. The winner weighed 2,346 lb. Wow. The winner was the runner up last year, so bravo to him. He’s an engineer, a big-time gardener in his free time. So, he says it took precise sunlight and watering. He took him $20,000. Wow. How? That’s a lot of fertilizer. How much how much did he had to spend to get it to the place? That’s a good question. Do they test for peeds and pumpkin growing? Cuz water pumpkin be more than $2,000. You know what was in the fertilizer? That’s what I want to know. Something nuclear. Classic Bay Area. Keeping cultured. You’re welcome. Really? Okay. We did. Wait a minute. Did Did we just get slandered somehow? Did the NorCal get slandered? I see. By not yet. We’ll find something else for a little bit later. Okay. Um, pumpkin lattes. Yay or nay? I’ll drink it. Same. Absolutely not. No. No chance. Okay. Where are we here? Um, defense. Okay. Uh, peeds. Uh, the D in peed stands for defense. That’s my segue. Didn’t work. Doesn’t matter. That’s a scary segue. Maybe we need to cancel all that out. Let’s start again. So the first three quarters, as I ignore that as well, the first three quarters, you’re number two in defensive efficiency, whatever analytic that is that’s out there. And then in the last quarter, you’re second to last. Somebody please help me understand, explain, uh, diagnose, cuz you’ve got a Green Bay team coming in that put on an offensive display last year at Lambo. They got up 24 nothing in that game. Cardinals and made it a game 24-13. That was also the game where you had 13 penalties. Remember when the Cardinals were the least penalized team in the league and then the very next game, 13 flags. Fishy fishy, not just Danny’s last year with a concussion that game. Yes. In the picks, but it was sort of like, wait a minute. Did the officials actually come in trying to make a statement? Oh, we’ve got your least penalized team in the league right here. 13 flags later, guess what? Cardinals had a loss at Lambo. I I’m I I think we’re just past the point of conspiracy theories for the 2024 season. He’s never He’s never Oh, never. No, you can always bring it up again. He’s got conspiracy theories for like the 2002 season. So, you got M the floor coming in. Um guess what? He’s got a run game in Josh Jacobs. He’s got an experienced mobile quarterback in Jordan Love who had four, count them, four touchdown passes against the Cardinals last year at home. Now they’re coming into the A. They’ve also added speed with Matthew Golden coming off his best game as a rookie, Mr. 429 first round pick out of Texas. Tucker Craft. Yes, they’ve got their own 85 at tight end. So, and I think Tucker Craft, I don’t have it in front of me, has the second most touchdown reception since the beginning of last year, second only to Mark Andrews. Good. Yeah. Although, okay, the first drive terrible against Tyler Warren, but I didn’t think Tyler Warren really was a huge drop off in how he and how Tyler Warren was used for the Colts offense from first half to the second half. I I I’ll say that defensively again the coaches aren’t announcing anything. You mentioned Ganon had talked about how he thought the pass rush was pretty good against the Colts, but it wasn’t married up with the back end. You know, there were there were a couple things that I I don’t think the defense can miss chances like the ball that was right in Buddha Baker’s hands that he didn’t pick off. Um you know, if you just get one of these games where they lost on a field goal and get that stop when you needed it. I know. I know it’s popped up a bunch of times about the punts that the Cardinals aren’t forcing in the fourth quarter. Uh but our Craig Greu looked something up and and again, I’m not dismissing the fact that the Cardinals defense needs to play better in the fourth quarter. They do, but it’s not like every possession in the fourth quarter has gone for a score. There’s been a couple of interceptions the Cardinals have had, the couple times they’ve forced turnovers on downs, there’s been a missed field goal, the Cardinals got a safety. So, like on some of those possessions, they have gotten stops. It’s just not enough and it’s not at the right time. And again, we wouldn’t be talking nearly about this if they had gotten maybe that last stop in San Francisco or been able to go to overtime against Seattle and and again horseshoes and hand grenades and being close and all that, but still it’s like is this who you are as a defense? Again, it’s it’s off to the full circle. I mean, you can have more than one season within a season. So, this is how you started the season as a defense. I mean, it’s remarkable. According to what I’m looking at here, the Cardinals point differential as a defense in the fourth quarter is – 36. You’re talking about a top five scoring defense most of this year. So, the first three quarters versus the fourth quarter, it’s radically different. Why is it is it tempo? Is it Now, New Orleans used a lot of tempo the entirety of the game. Is it other teams getting into tempo in the fourth quarter and you struggle with that per se? I I I don’t know, but I’m guessing starting as soon as possible, but really being accentuated in the by-week, you’re going to do a lot of self-couting if you’re Nick Rollins and that defensive staff during the buy as to what’s going on in the fourth quarter. Cardinals were also without some of their defensive linemen that they could have used. Running back Jonathan Taylor is one of the best in the leagues, but he is the best in terms of forcing missed tackles and yards after those forced missed tackles. You are without Bal Nichols. He didn’t play for personal reasons. Rookie defensive lineman Walter Nolan the third remains on up. He wasn’t available. Darius Robinson didn’t play because he’s got a chest injury. Justin Jones hasn’t made his return. Th this defense has done a nice job throughout the season. Th those are the moments though where you really miss some of those players that you were expecting to be able to rely on and partially built your team around. I agree. But I will say that again like if it was big picture and this defense was getting run over regularly, I would have more the the the issue that the Cardinals have now is because because they’ve played all these close games. you. It’s to me it’s not necessarily the overall what you’re doing. It’s it’s the ability to come up with that one stop when you need it. You know, against the Colts that really kind of resonated with me is the offense, which you you want to have more consistency, had that consistency and they gave him the lead twice in the fourth quarter, correct? If I recall, or at least once late in the third quarter and then early in the fourth quarter. You entered the fourth quarter up 27 2417. Okay. and and so and then you went up 2724. So like twice you had the lead and you want to give your offense who was playing pretty well a chance to build on that lead and both times the defense allowed points to put the Cardinals back in a position where they had to score. It would have been nice to get at least one of those stops and let and see if the offense could then balloon the lead more so that maybe you had a little bit more elbow room as a defense to not Not tip for tat. It’s not just pointing fingers. Same can be true for the offense. Linebacker Mackilson senior had a very athletic interception and the Cardinals offense drives it down and and it’s a red zone interception for Brousette on that following drive. You have to put points on the board from a forced turnover from the defense. It’s funny you bring that up because the first thing I think of is there are people that are still angry about when Jonathan Ganon said about the Amari de Marcato drop against uh the Titans that one play doesn’t change the game like that or doesn’t lose the game, right? Not change the game because it did change the game but doesn’t lose the game. And that’s the thing. If you’re going to play one scorecore games, I 100% agree with that. One play doesn’t lose the game because of what you just said. Like there there are so many things that go into it. Now there are there are plays that can change a game, but even like the the Brousette interception happened so early and again they took the lead a couple times late. Like that was to me that’s washed away by then. And you know, and the Colts could have been doing the same thing if the Cardinals had gone down and made that completion to McBride to score the touchdown. Their whole narrative this whole week was, man, our defense couldn’t get one freaking stop. Our offense is still playing great and we couldn’t get one stop. But that’s the league. You know, do you pull a castanza? Do you do the opposite of what you’ve been doing? Do you bring zero? If you’re in another tight game against Jordan Love and Matt Laflur and the Packers, do you do you bring zero? One more pass rusher than they have blockers, you know? Do you sort of change your MO and what you put on film so far? There’s no doubt that Shane Stiken had some confidence to open the game. He won the toss and kept the football and then went right down the field. So whatever true whatever he scripted, he had a lot of confidence in. And guess what? It was warranted because they hit the end zone. True. But I will say also I think that helped the Cardinals because I think think getting the ball to start the second half and driving for their own touchdown changed how they felt about things. It was well the key was they adjusted defensively too. Two three and outs and then the pick like Danny cited. I mean I I think you know not to like jump side of the ball but it’s interesting and that’s why that’s why the quarterback thing has been brought up because we we are talking about how the offense was successful as opposed to the defense. And it’s it’s interesting um not that we’re going to spend a lot of time on it but obviously Jonathan Ganon has made clear that when Kyler Murray is healthy he’s going to be the quarterback. And the question then becomes this week, is he going to be healthy enough? I mean, when you’re talking about, it was reported that it was something like a Liz Frank’s uh injury, which the times that I’ve been around those, those have been fairly long term. So, I’m very curious to see not only if he’s going to be available this week, but what it looks like like going into Dallas after the buy. Two things can be true. Jacobe Brassette had a good game. Cardinals offense had a good game. Kyler Murray is still going to be the starting quarterback when he’s healthy. Kyler Murray is still the franchise quarterback. There’s a reason that after 10 years in the league, Buret is the backup quarterback and Murray’s the starter. And if you look at the stats and you compare them, Murray’s the better quarterback. Doesn’t mean Brlet’s not a good quarterback. Doesn’t mean he did not play well. Doesn’t mean he’s not a good fit for this Cardinals offense. It doesn’t have to be a discussion every time a backup quarterback has a good game. Because this is what you want. You want to have a backup quarterback that you can trust to go in and lead your team to success. And yes, the Cardinals didn’t walk away with a win, but they had a lot of good things and the quarterback played well. That’s what you want in a backup quarterback. And and I let me throw that this will be the last thing I say on it, which is basically I I understand the people out there who are talking about what might happen here. And I I totally get it. And let’s face it, some of the conversation has not come up just now for some of these people. But there’s one thing I know for sure over these last number of years, which is the quarterback, the starting quarterback, Kyler Murray, engenders a lot of strong feelings, both pro and con, and it just always has been and he probably always will. And there’s players like that around the league. I mean, we saw it with Kevin Durant in basketball. Well, there’s there’s players all over in all sports that and he’s just happens to be one of those guys and I don’t think that’s ever going to change. It it’s just it’s it’s also I think a little bit of recency bias, right? Again, not not a knock on Josh Dobs, but when Josh Dobs was here, right, played really well at the beginning and then things kind of fell off right before the Cardinals traded him to Minnesota. Right. Well, they’re just they’re two radically different type of quarterbacks. That’s also true. two totally different skill sets, you know, and Darren, once again, going back to early bird. What did we talk about? I don’t remember. It was 5:30 in the morning. It was Carson Palmer comparison. He’s 6’4 6’5 Jacobe Brassette. He’s going to hang in the pocket. The pocket’s going to collapse. He’s going to hang in. You’re going to see the arm come out. He’s going to wait till the very last minute. But do you see Baker Mayfield doing a lot of that at his size? No. And he might be the MVP of the league. So, it’s just it’s a different style of quarterback. And Dan, you know, I said this on Monday with Craig Guo. There you are at the nine yardd line. Second and goal or second and seven from the nine. Third and seven from the nine. Fourth and seven from the nine. And what would have been really nice to have a quarterback who runs a 4-3. You roll him out a little bit and then if he’s one-on-one with a backer or someone, oh, you know what? He gone and he takes off to the pylon and there’s your game winning touchdown. Darren, why don’t you share your question for offensive coordinator Drew Petting at his press conference Tuesday. Oh, I I just asked Drew that, you know, I I said obviously you’re going to ask these quarterbacks what they like and uh and that this has been something that offensive coordinators have talked about the whole time we’ve been here, Paul. You you’ve been around guys and it’s like you talk to the quarterback and you find out what they like and you find out what they’re comfortable with and that’s that’s what happens. That’s part of the planning every week. And Andrew Petting said yes. And then it also has to do in his opinion a little bit more with how what the defense you’re facing and what make makes sense within the context. But I I followed up by basically saying, you know, how these things are changing. And what Drew Petting said was overall I don’t think what we it was based enough on what the Colts were doing. I don’t think our game plan would have been that much different regardless of whether Kyler or Jacobe Brassette were the quarterback. That’s that’s what the offensive coordinator said. Well, Jacobe said after the game about Drew Pettiny, and I’m looking at the quote here, “Drew felt my rhythm. I felt his rhythm in the play calling. I was seeing it well. I came to the sideline. It was either Katon or Kyler said, I know you can see it. You can tell you can see it.” Yeah. And so last week, I saw it fairly well. You did. And you celebrated, but it’s a a week- toeek business, so you’re only as good as your most recent wise guy. It’s time for The Wise Guy, the world’s fastest growing Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets absolutely nothing. Here’s your hostess with a mostess, Denny Surret. Paul, you got a comment on our YouTube channel on the episode last week of someone saying how much he loved watching the underdog get a win. Everybody pulls for the underdog. I’m a sucker for the underdog movies. You know, any underdog movie. It can be cheesy as all get out and I’m still sucked in. You have two wins this year. Are you still considered the underdog if you won last week? Wait a minute. Do I Do I really have two wins? I thought when was my There’s six. There’s been six. We won two of them. Okay. All right. Here we go. Once again, there can be more seasons in one season than just one season. So, Paul, you get first pick of the questions. Wow. Okay. Uh, how’s that feel? Kind of underprepared for that. But you know, I’m prepared because it doesn’t change every single time. Coming off, give him a break. Coming off his interception number two. Number two. Number two. It is. This former Packers and Cardinals player served in the Idaho Army National Guard where he flew on UH60 Blackhawk helicopter missions during a deployment to Afghanistan. Cardinals and Packers player deployed to Afghanistan. Was there any mention of the era here? And was there any uh did you skip over any portion of the question, Danny? I did not. Dang it. Um, okay. Let’s see here. Uh, Jake Hanran. Is it Darren College? It is. No way. Darren College. Isn’t he too big for the military? How can he even fit in a helicopter? You know those offensive linemen, they end up losing all that weight. Why don’t you ask where he’s from? North Pole, Alaska. I would answer that one. Dang it. Okay, I’m going to go with number one. Paul, it’s okay. You’re You are comfortable in the underdog position. One of these times, Jake Aneran is going to be the right answer. I I actually got threatened by Darren College once. It was uh it was on the TV end. Well, we did The Big Red Rage, so we knew each other pretty well. I think he was half joking, but our photographer had framed the uh postgame interview a little too wide and kind of had him from the waist up when he thought it was going to be neck up and he didn’t have a shirt on and his wife didn’t appreciate seeing her husband. Oh dear. On the evening news without and I didn’t know they ran it and uh anyway uh Darren Danny Darren Danny. Question one. There are three players with the first name Paris in Cardinals franchise history. Can you name them all? Hint: One played for the one played defense for the Packers from 2002 to 2005. I’m gonna go with Paris Johnson Jr. I’m going to go with Paris Johnson senior and I’m going to go with Paris Lennon. Dang it. That would be correct. Dang it. Paris Han. Dang it. All right. I’m in a hole. Here we go. Here’s here’s here’s my quick story on the I don’t know why I just thought of this, but Paris Johnson senior rarely gets mentioned. I saved the newspaper from when my first born was born that day. And the main story in the East Valley Tribune, the paper that I worked for at the time, was a giant feature on Paris Johnson Senior. So, I have fantastic story about Paris Johnson Senior and my keepsakes. Paul, no pressure. You need a correct answer and a steal. You want question three or four? Obvious. Obviously. Obviously three. Here we go. Okay. My my pen is out. I’m ready. Okay. Here we go. This former player spent just one season each with the Cardinals and Packers. He was the son of a Cardinal star from the 1970s and made a pivotal play in the final game of the 1998 season against the Chargers, helping Arizona secure a spot in the playoffs. I was at that game. was on the sideline that carried the goalpost off. Um, I know it’s his question, but could you repeat that one more time, please? Anything to buy time. Thank you, Darren. This former player spent just one season each with the Cardinals and Packers. He was the son of a Cardinal star from the 1970s and made a pivotal play in the final game of the 1998 season against the Chargers, helping Arizona secure a spot in the playoffs. You better get a poll. Darren doesn’t need hear the rest of the question. and Eric Metaf. Correct. All you need is a seal. I mean, considering I’ve been at two dinners with Wolf and uh and and Aaron. Anyway, go ahead. All right. Here we go. I thought that’s what it was, but I I got a little confused with how long this So, it is what it is. I’m going to answer this right and then Paul will go home sad. Wow. Wow. Confidence. Here we go. Here we go. Get this right. Here we go. I’m in a three-point stance. Lambo Field is named after one of the Packers founders, Curly Lambo. What significance does Lambo hold in Cardinals history? He was he was a head coach. Correct. He was the Chicago Cardinals head coach from 1950 to 1951. It doesn’t bring me any joy, Paul. That makes you feel any better that Darren has won back in the win column. Dang. I just ran out of questions. That’s all. Just ran out of questions. He didn’t really win. I just didn’t have an opportunity. He was driving and he just ran out of time. I just didn’t have an ample opportunity. You know, Darren didn’t really stop me. I I the the game stopped me. Yeah. It just the rules of the game stopped me. That’s all that stopped me. All right. Well done, Darren. That was good. I’m not sure. Appreciate it. Not sure I would have got that last one anyway. I would I was thinking more along the lines of u Charles Bidwell bailed him out, but I guess that was the family back in the day, right? It was the family. It was the family. The Chicago Bears wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for the big boys. That’s right. That is true. Okay. By the way, Packers Cardinals second longest rivalry in NFL history, right? I believe that’s right. Behind Cardinals Bears, right? Yes. Something like Yeah. to Chicago. All right. So, okay. Um, you know, at the end of that game in Indianapolis, Trey McBride felt like he had played a hundred years. Um, that dude, he was gassed and he gave everything he had and then some. You won NFL history, you know, and I might joke with Trey about this a little bit later. That should have been like his Kell Winslow game. Speaking of tight ends, you know, car carried off at the end by teammates. That could have been Zack Gershman. You can go ahead and Google that. Yes. Uh Kellen Winslow senior, please Google. Do not do not Google Kell Winsow Jun. Not suitable for work. No. So, uh Trey McBride, um what kind of season do you think he’s having? because obviously he’s getting more attention than ever and I think he’s getting punished more than ever. Hint hint, officials, keep an eye on what defenses are doing to him physically, please. You know, it’s funny. I I know he talked last week to a few reporters. I had talked to him the week before and he kind of said the same thing, which is he said, “I don’t feel like I’m reaching the level I need to.” Now, I think he acknowledged that there’s a lot involved, including, and he said, “Teams are defending me a lot differently.” And I think it goes to what you were just saying, Paul, which is they know he’s their best player, so they’re guarding him as such. Um, but that’s one of the reasons I liked what they did the other day, which was they made sure he got the ball. And that’s what has to happen when you have these great players is you have to find a way to get them the ball. And I I think Trey played a really good game. I think he’s super important to this team, especially with Jim. What the final thing I asked him that day that I was talking to him a couple weeks ago was with Connor out, you’re obviously an emotional player. Do you feel any more pressure to be that guy now that Connor isn’t there to help do it? And he said yes. He does think he’s that guy. And I think it’s important for him to stay very involved, not only because he’s so good, but because I think you need that kind of emotional foundation for this offense. Absolutely. M McBry’s having one of those sneaky good seasons. He is still one of the best tight ends in the league. He still makes plays when the ball comes his way. Even some some balls that aren’t even good throws. Like he he is finding a way to haul them in. and you wish that he would have maybe gotten that call in the end zone to have that interception in Indianapolis and and those are important players to have. They are reliable when they get the football in their hands and they do energize a team and you could see that in Indie. And he ain’t no Travis Kelce where he’s strictly a receiver either. I mean, he is asked to block and be physical at the point of attack which just adds to the toll the physical toll it takes on him. Even more so now you’re without Tip Ryman for the rest of the season because of that injury suffered a few weeks ago. They were without Travis Vocal for almost the entire game. The offense didn’t even play a snap with Vocal. It was that first special teams right play for Vocal. So and and we don’t know what the prognosis of his neck concussion injury is going to be. So I would expect McBride to block more. I’d also expect to see a lot more jumbo packages. We saw a lot of offensive lineman Kelvin Beichchum lining up. But yeah, a a lot is being asked of McBride. And by the way, for everything the Packers are and could be, and I know when they started the season, all of a sudden they were the best team in the NFC and things have cooled off a little bit and they’re 3-1 and one. Their defense gave up 40 points to Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. Now, the Cowboys have a half decent offense. There’s no doubt about it. Miles ahead of their defense, but Joe Flacco came into Cincinnati on 3 days notice and went 29 of 45. a couple of touchdowns, no turnovers, was sacked only one time. He’s about as immobile as it gets, and he led five straight Cincinnati drives to close the game that didn’t end in a punt or or a turnover. So, I I I think there’s opportunity for the Cardinals offense against this Packers defense. I absolutely agree with you and and again, this goes back to the top of what you were talking about, Paul. There there are no juggernauts in this league. The Packers are a good team. Do not get me wrong. I understand why they would be favored in this game. They could make a playoff run, but they are certainly not a team that on a week-to-eek basis you’re just assuming is going to roll over the opponent because I don’t think there’s I don’t know if there’s any teams like that right now. And um it it’ll be fascinating to see. I mean, for me, it is about what the offense can do and if they can have a followup regardless of who the quarterback is. and and Jonathan Ganon said, you know, we’re going to probably, he basically implied, we’re probably going to take it all the way up until Saturday or Sunday again to see if Kyler can play. So, we don’t know who the quarterback is. Can that offense follow up? But to me, more importantly, after what we saw last year in Green Bay, can this defense hold down Jordan Love and this offense a little bit? And and watching what Jonathan Taylor did and and Jonathan Ganon said, “I did not like how we played run defense.” Jonathan Taylor averaged almost six yards a carry. You can’t let Josh Jacobs get off. It’s a balanced Packers offense. You got a really good quarterback, a mobile quarterback, Jordan Love, who makes good decisions. He’s got weapons. That fast receiver, the rookie receiver, Matthew Golden out of Texas. Tight end Tucker Craft, who has been great all throughout his career. And you’ve got Josh Jacobs in the backfield, similar to Indie in the sense that it’s an offense that is moving on all cylinders, very balanced. How do you do that? You make them one-dimensional. more times than not that means focusing on stopping the run first and foremost which prior to Indie the Cardinals have been pretty good at this season and and hopefully when it comes to defending the pass I mean we don’t know this on Tuesday there’s a chance that quarterback Garrett Williams is able to return this week he’s missed the minimum four games being placed on IR with that knee injury he suffered week two the home opener against Carolina now I have no inkling whether or not they’re going to open up his practice window or on the chance that just because his practice window is open does doesn’t necessarily mean that Williams will be ready to play that first game that comes up. It is a possibility though starting this week. And what was the nugget of info that TV announces dropped about Walter Nolan the third during the telecast? Yeah, that was kind of surprising to me. I saw it because Zack Gershman tweeted listening to the broadcast that I guess in the production meeting Ganon said that Walter Nolan the third would be ready to come back soon from the calf injury that’s kept him out all season as a rookie. When you look at the logistics of it though, I I I would be surprised if it happens this week. You have a 21-day window when you open up that practice window. And considering the fact that after Green Bay, the Cardinals are on their bye-week. Do you want to open up that 21-day window for a rookie who hasn’t practiced in pads in almost a year when you’re going to have that whole week off? Logistically, I I I don’t I don’t know how much how realistic that is. I I would I would lean towards more realistic after the by-week because of that. Yeah. And I think we all need to pump our brakes on on any rookie trying to assimilate in the middle of the NFL regular season because Danny knows the answer to this. What do the three of us have in common with Walter Nolan the third? None of us has worn pads in the NFL. So true. You’re going to have to, you know, just when in doubt, uh, figure it’s going to take a little bit longer than you might figure. Okay. I’m not going to give the cheese heads uh any uh inkling of recognition until we uh finish this up by getting some winning behavior. I see you. Let’s go. Can you display winning behavior? You have to consistently display winning behavior. That’s winning behavior. You got to define what winning behavior is and hold people to that standard. Yes. So, I look at the rundown. It’s not shocking. I don’t recognize a single one of these entries. Number one, Darren’s Thursday Twitter. No idea. Would you like me to bring talk about that for a minute, Paul? Sure. This would be under non-winning behavior from yours truly. All right. Because I decided to wade into Twitter on Thursday night, basically saying both things can be true. We can all talk about how it would have been cool if Cam Scataboo was a member of the Cardinals, but also it would have been malfeent to draft a running back in the third round. That didn’t go well. You mean back in April, people didn’t know that James Connor, Trey Benson were both going to get hurt and that right off the bat, Cam Scataboo was going to be a good player in the NFL? It did not go well. Danny, I’m going to leave it at that. Is there one particular regret that stands out over all the others? I will say that a a certain person that I know, we will call him Robert, immediately texted me and said, “What the hell are you doing?” And even my son, after a few replies saying, “Wow, you’re getting a little feisty there, Dad.” Don’t read the comments, Darren. Oh boy. Might have been a mistake, Paul. Okay, so non-winning behavior. So there’s Darren on Twitter. There’s Mark from Reno. You know, Darren always complains that we never have actual winning behavior in this segment. I have winning behavior. Okay. In Indianapolis, we were visiting our favorite local dive bar, Loft Millers. Depend. Well, I guess depends. Yeah, depends who you’re talking to on how it’s pronounced. The people that own it called Were you wearing the shirt? Were you guys wearing the shirts? We were. We were. We were wearing the shirts with our faces, taking a drink, having a a shot at the bar. It was very meta of us. Do we do we consider that winning or non-winning behavior? That is absolutely winning behavior, but that’s not what she’s talking about. So, there was a group of us sitting off to the side and there was someone sitting at the bar and he heard us talking a little bit about Arizona and he was wearing a Pat Tilman shirt that the Tilman Pats run. Oh, okay. So, he turns around. He’s like, I heard you guys talking about Arizona like are you guys here for the game? Are you Cardinals fans? We filled him in. Oh, we all we work for the team and we were chatting with him and he was lovely to talk to. He probably sat and talked with us for a good hour or so. He lived in Arizona, doesn’t live here anymore, has had his season tickets for 25 years. He now lives in Reno for work. So, his daughter and son-in-law use his season tickets. And he likes to travel to games. So, he was going to Indianapolis. Originally, his son-in-law was going to join him, although his son-in-law and daughter had an eight-month old baby at home. Um, so even though it was his birthday, the daughter said, “Nope, not happening.” You guys are besties. My goodness. We have we have a lot of knowledge here. We haven’t gotten to the winning behavior yet. He was really great. He not only bought us around, he then surprised us by paying for a whole tab and there were probably 10 or 11 of us there. There was it was a big tab. Yeah, really appreciative. So, I’m not sure if Mark is a loyal Cardinals Underground listener. If he is, thank you, Mark. Hope you enjoyed the game. Appreciate it, Mark. Okay. Winning behavior. Is he like in the uh quicks business in Reno? Like uh you know, mines mines. See, there you go. That’s what I thought. Okay. Uh, now this one I know Tez Johnson for the triple flip to try and outdo Cam Scataboo in the end zone. Fantastic. I did not realize that the video the video. So he’s miked up and he was not only miked up but he’s talking after the game and the Buccaneers put out a awesome video splicing his postgame interview with ingame. But essentially what happened is he catches a touchdown pass, he does his flip, he starts hearing the MVP chants, and he comes to the sideline and he talks to Sterling Shepard, one of the veteran receivers who’s a teammate, and he’s like, “Hey man, are they they were chanting MVP?” And and Sterling Shepard’s like, “Yeah, they were chanting MVP.” And he goes, “Why are they chanting MVP? I haven’t done nothing this year.” And Sterling Shepard looks at me and goes, “They’re chanting for Baker. Tez Baker threw you the touchdown. That’s who they’re chanting for.” Oh. Oh, I it was fantastic. Oh my goodness. You must check out that video. Yeah. When when the lack of self-awareness is at such an extreme, it’s highly entertaining. That’s good. Okay. All right. That’s the only thing better than uh being in the silver business right now. Have you seen the price of silver? No wonder he picked up your tab. Why would you ask me that? Do you think I’ve seen the price of silver, Paul, from what you know about the price of the uh shrimp cocktail, but not the price of silver? 1995. Yeah, that’s what Paul told me last. Okay. So, uh, are we really I mean you guys, somebody put in a story here. You know, that was I mean, who put in who put in I was just trying to give you back a 200word paragraph. I’m not asking you. Just just intro it for God’s sake. This this New Orleans story is its own podcast. Long story short, somebody was doing yard work and found something for they found they found a a marble tablet in their backyard that was overgrown and it turned out to be a grave marker for a grave that was almost 2,000 years old that had been in Italy and somehow ended up in New Orleans at some point, but they found it. And so they’re trying to get it back to a museum in Italy and and it’s it’s for a Roman sailor named Sexus. And like I’m like that is I first of all I’m a I love visiting older graveyards. I think that’s one of the coolest things ever. A connection to history. But like stop laughing in there for freak’s sake. But anyways, so I I think I I just thought that was cool. A grave mark a little further away from Darren after hearing he likes to spend his time in graveyard. It’s about history. So Danny, you meet a guy in a bar and he says, “I like to hang out in older graveyards.” What’s your reaction? Uh, quickly bail. That’s right. Get the free drink. I just got a call. Quickly bail. Exactly. That’s uh I’m not sure we can uh come back from that that comment right there. I think history is cool. That’s what I’m just saying. What about our picks, Paul? No movement this week. There’s history and then there’s graveyard history. Um, okay. So, speaking of grave, everybody went eight and six in the picks. Speaking of graveyards, I I thought I was buried, but I’m not. Uh I’m only two back. Uh to make this all about me, I thought I was seriously under 500 this week, but we all went eight and six. I totally did, too. Same games. I was like, “Oh my god, has I actually said at one point I said, “Has anybody ever gone winless?” I thought it was going to go winless. It only felt like we lost every game. So, no, not exactly. So, I’m still knocking on the doorstep one game back from Darren. Um, is it just you, Danny, or is there any sort of Speaking of peeds, any You’re the one who admitted to using AI two weeks ago. Performance and answers. You know what? This might be a good uh chance to end here at Cardinals Underground. No further. I’m not going to take any further questions. I use AI. Why would I use AI to go eight and six? That’s true. Well, you would just use AI. I mean, you don’t really have any control over whether you go. You don’t you don’t say AI, make sure you make picks so I go 15 and two. Well, she could unless that’s an AI that I don’t want to know about because then we’re then we’re in Terminator status and cyberdine and I don’t want to talk about that. Darren, we’re just being set up for a big finish uh like last season where you know she was sort of damn straight Paul. Yeah, it was so like fits in golf. He sandbags and then in the back nine, boom, you lose all your money. You know how I knew that we we all ended up with about the same records? Because Danny didn’t pop off ahead of time saying, “I’ve just passed you up.” Cuz I was waiting for that for like two days. Okay. Uh All right. Well, you know me so well. It’s a good thing this is only weekly because it’s going to take a week to recover from the I enjoy old graveyards comment here on Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. Is there any other kind

The weather is rough, but that just makes Paul Calvisi think about how the Cardinals need their own flurry of football as the Packers come to town. That’d be a nice way to snap a four-game skid by a total of nine points. Paul discusses such things with Darren Urban and Dani Sureck, as well as how an NFL season is more than one season, the Cardinals’ battle to find a way to finish, the power rankings of what would be needed if there was a magic wand fix, the non-MHJ receivers stepping up, Dani culturing the guys, how the defense finds a way to make one crucial stop, when Kyler returns, getting back to normal on The Wise Guy, the power of Big Play Trey, Winning Behavior, and the historical importance of graveyards. Really.

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