Are the Rangers Better Than Their Record Says? | Up in the Blue Seats

Are the Rangers Better Than Their Record Says? | Up in the Blue Seats

This is a good hockey team. I’m going to say it now. This is this is the opposite of what we saw last year with their 12 and four start. A little bit of smoke in mirrors. There were some holes. They got some timely goals. They got some good decent enough goalending anyway last year. This year everything and this is the chances that they got particularly last night against Edmonton against a very good team, a a perennial cup contender in Edmonton. Correct. Two of the best players in the world. What’s up hockey fans? We’ve got another episode of Up in the Blue Seats for you today. Your favorite Rangers podcast from the New York Post. As always, it’s Molly Walker joined by Rangers favorite Brian Bole. And we’ve got plenty of games to get into today. Rangers are two and three to start the season, but they’ve been shut out in three of those five games, all at home, making them the only team in NHL history to go scoreless through their first three games at home to start a season. Last team to do some variation of that was the now defunct Pittsburgh Pirates in 1928-29. That game went 187 minutes because it went into overtime, but the Rangers are currently at 180 minutes of scoreless hockey at MSG. These games though, Brian, I mean, aside from the offense and the season opener, the last two, the Rangers really haven’t looked that bad though. No, no, they haven’t. Uh, the first season opener was a dud. Yeah. So, is what it is. There’s a lot of Yeah, we we’ll put that on the back burner for a sec. Listen, this is a good hockey team. I’m going to say it now. This is a This is the opposite of what we saw last year with their 12 and four start. A little bit of smoke in mirrors. There were some holes. They got some timely goals. They got some good decent enough goalending anyway last year. this year everything and this is the the chances that they got particularly last night against Edmonton against a very good team a a perennial cup contender in Edmonton. Correct. Two of the best players in the world. The chances they got were based on or was from execution of their structure. They played a patient game and then when they had the puck they were direct. I thought everyone contributed. I thought you know you want to get a goal every three or four games from your fourth line. That line could have had three or four and alone could have had three or four. He had he had a numerous amount of chances. The carrick had a post. He had another great day in the first period and it all was off of their structure. So that’s what I think will translate. They have to stay the course. You cannot cheat the game for offense because then it’ll look like it looked last year. So, I really like we’ll get into it, but I re I really like, you know, what their top guys are doing to get chances. There are some guys that need a little kick in the pants. I think if that happens, this is a scary team in a weak, honestly a weak division. So, even because the Washington game, you know, Washington just played a Tampa team where, you know, they kind of pushed back and got a big win against Tampa. They’re Washington’s a good team. People kind of overlook them every year. They smoke a mirror. No, they’re they’re a good team. They got enough. Yeah, they got goalie in that game. And then, you know, Steuart Skinner was Which one’s a good one? Dr. Jackekal, right? He was Dr. Jackekal last night. Which one? You know, he does that feast or famine act and it was feasting for for Edmonton last night with Stuart Skinner. Yeah. and they limited Edmonton as a whole to three high danger chances. I think defensively this is it’s night and day from last season. There is a total buyin on the defensive system 100%. And it is it I mean when you think about it, what have they given up? Six goals in total. Four have come with an actual goalie in net. Yeah. you know, so yeah, like that alone is very encouraging from a defensive standpoint, but I wrote about this for my column after the Edmonton game. For a team that has historically had such strong starts in the first year under a new coach, I don’t think that growing pains at the beginning of this season could be the worst thing in the world because I believe Mike Sullivan is here to build something that’s going to last. a foundation that they can actually build upon that is going to stay in place and not going to be flimsy and movable. And that’s what the Rangers wanted when they brought in Mike Sullivan. They don’t want to do this whole, you know, new coaching staff every two years. Who the hell does you know? They ideally want to build something that’s going to go the distance, not just to the Stanley Cup final this June, but season after season after season. Perennial contenders. That is the goal for everybody. And the last two coaching staffs were not able to build a foundation that could withstand all the things that the Rangers went through when it all collapsed at the end of year two in all each of the last two coaching staffs. Yeah. and and you’re 100% right and it’s not just on the ice. I think it’s in the room and how they approach everything and that’s why I’m still not worried and I’m not worried that they might cheat the game. I think cuz just how Sully operates and we talked about this in the preseason like they win three, four, five in a row or they lose a couple in a row or this happens, right? Mike Sullen is going to walk into the room today. Okay, this is what we did well. This is what we didn’t do well. This is a good play. This is where we can clean some things up. It’s the same message every single time, which I always really appreciated. And you know, in a hot market like New York, that is paramount. And if you want to if if Rangers fans want another little nugget to chew on that could get you to sleep tonight, like go look at how Mike Sullivan started in Pittsburgh. Mhm. He I think I believe he was 0 and4 and they hoisted that year. So this is, you know, and the following season. now. Mhm. People can say, “Well, then what?” And and yeah, he they made the playoffs every year and didn’t have a ton of success after, but it’s hard in the cap system when you win to keep all your players. So, I think he’s he’ll get them back to what they, you know, they they’ll be feeling good. There’s too much talent not to score. And the other side of it is, you know, you want you want longevity and have, you know, perennial success in terms of getting into the playoffs and being a team to reckon with have great structure and have an all world goalie because even days you don’t have perfect legs or you’re a little tired or you’re playing three and four nights on the road, which happens and they’re going to run into that, especially in an Olympic season, you got probably the best goalie in the world behind you. And if there’s structure in front of him where he can read plays and know where breakdowns are, he’s going to get even better. Mhm. You could be looking at, you know, a Connor Hellbuck type regular season from Igor, which is really, really exciting because he can make those stops and he can play the puck and he can help like there’s especially with a banged up D. He can alleviate some of that issues and they’re not in their end because they play defense in all three zones because that’s what defense is. When you don’t have the puck, where are you? you’re in the right spots and they were last night and that’s how they got so many chances offensively. I mean, going back to what you said about, you know, building foundationally off the ice as well. I think we’re already seeing that, too. I mean JT Miller talking about let’s not blow this out of proportion here, you know, which is exactly the kind of message you want to hear from your captain. And he is he’s so like that, you know, just a little dismissive of, you know, we like the way that we’re playing, forget about, you know, the scoreboard. It’s about Yeah. And that’s that’s a message that Sullivan has also maintained as well. you know, there there’s been a lot of talk about the process, a lot of talk about how they take these losses, how they move on from them. Um, even Mika Zabanaga saying, “I don’t know whether I should laugh or cry.” I I was so happy to hear that perspective on the whole thing because I mean, how what kind of mental challenge is it, you know, from a player’s perspective to start the season with that kind of historical stat hanging over your head? Yeah, listen, I’ve gone long stretches without goals and it it’s really really difficult because if you could pinpoint why or like what could I change, you you just start polluting your brain with so many different ideas and you never really stick to one. And you know, when you’re dialed in as a player, it’s it’s almost like just being naive or or you know, just ignorant to everything else going around you. you’re solely focused and people talk about being in the zone and they can’t really explain it. It’s just you’re almost like dumb to everything else. You just go out, play, it works out and then when it’s it’s not going great or you can’t finish, it’s just you’re thinking of everything. I remember I used to go on a stretch and I’d watch my own goals from years before being like, okay, that’s me doing it. I know I can do it. I’ve done it before. Not that I and I wasn’t just a reminder. Yeah. Like, oh geez, I’m getting these chances. Usually they go in. What’s going on? And you could see last night like someone throws a stick on the side, it hits their stick on on a Mika chance and it just kind of dribbles wide. That’s going to even itself out. I I I mean JT Miller, he was in, you know, comparatively speaking, he was in a war zone last year compared to compared to this. No offense to the New York media. You guys are you’re demanding and it’s great and that’s that’s why people care and watch. Um, Vancouver is a little bit different in terms of rational or or irrational and the fans clamor for it. So, the media provides it and that’s just that’s part of playing in Vancouver. So, it’s a little different. He’s still going to get all the questions and all the media attention, but I think JT Miller is conditioned to handle it a as I do with the rest of this team after going through last year. Is there any positive from last year? Let’s just forget that season. Yeah. Okay. But I think they’re hardened now to handle something like this where it’s like we’re we’re fine. Like we’re playing well. It’s going to go in. Yeah. Demanded from each other. Like we’re not just going to pretend it’s not happening. We’re two and three and you are what your record says you are. But they’re not 0 and5. No. That’s a believe it or not a bigger hole. Like a way bigger hole. It is two and three. And how many 10 goals on the road? It’s not like I know. I mean, the Hey, Rangers fans, the players hate your guts. They’re never going to score you. That’s That’s what it is. No, I mean, offensively on the road, they were fine. So, I I I think it’s just a a matter of time. Just a little snake bitten at home, I think. And obviously, I mean, Charlie Lingren was outrageous in that Capitals game. It clearly still has taken his brother’s departure from New York a little personally. Um, like, get over it, man. Hey, we were we we were saying before before we got on here, whatever f fuels you, you know, whatever fuels you. And you know what? It fueled him tenfold. He was outrageous. And sometimes you just got to tip your cap to the other goalie on the other end of the ice. So there was I know top 10. I mean, arguably one of the season so far. So um yeah, that was outrageous. and we’ll we’ll probably get into a little bit more of that, but um we do have a bit of a injury report to get to. So, news new news as they say. Let me um All right. So, Vincent Troche sustained an upper body injury in Buffalo and is considered weak to weak, but he was just put on LTIR today. Uh, so that’s a a bigger loss than initially expected. Um, I mean, what kind of loss is that for the Rangers, Brian? So, you know, the power play, I know they’re kind of tinkering with that and putting different guys in, but he just he won so many draws in that power play. He can do a number of different things. This is a he’s again, he’s so important to that team in every single aspect of the game. penalty, kill the power play. Five on five, you can drive offense. Just kind of slots everybody in great spots, but you know, it’s it’s an opportunity to get some more reps early in the season for some other guys. Noah Labba comes to mind. It’s um yeah, it’s difficult because I believe it’s like 10 10 games and and 24 days is the amount of time he is required to miss if you want any relief on the LTIR, which they’re going to have to have because that’s not uh that’s not the only thing that’s nagging the Rangers right now. Yeah. Um, sticking with Trochek though, Sullivan puts in Parson at first and then switches to Broadzinski the last two games, but kind of makes sense. I I think Parsonin didn’t really show much during the preseason and I think Sullivan has a penchant for a more stronger presence down uh just in the on the third line and in the lineup in general and I don’t think Parson brings that for him. Yeah, he needs to be more. So, we were doing we did the preseason game in Boston. We talked about that, but it just was I don’t want to say timid, but you have to be more engaging and really sort of mix it up. It’s not about plays with the puck when you’re not in a top six role. It’s go get some energy and get into somebody’s jersey. Create that way. He’s a bigger guy than I even thought he was, but it’s you got to play to your size. and Brad Brozinski plays above his size. I think yes, honey Bradzinski’s proven himself I think a number of different times and a number of different coaching staffs and it’s still kind of like all right you’re going to start the year as like the 13th or 14th guy. So and credit to him for just you know he doesn’t he seems like a humble guy that’s just going to go to work. He is and guys rally around that he doesn’t expect even if he deserves it. It’s just he he he proves himself every day. You need guys like that as well. And sometimes watching and watching a little longer than you think you should be hopefully starts a little fire in your belly where you can come out and be, you know, cuz Parson’s shown flashes. He showed flashes in Nashville. He’s there’s a player there, a smart enough player there where you need just if you have a tiny bit more attitude, he could he could be part of some solutions in the bottom six, but there’s bottom six were pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. It’s hard to argue and I Yeah, I think I think Brodzinski looked a lot stronger just in that role. And to your point, Bradzinski has been such a phenomenal soldier for the Rangers over these years. He has continuously stepped into this role and like you said, never asks for anything. The guys in that room adore him. He’s a great presence, locker room guy, and you know what you’re going to get out of Johnny Bradzinski every night. It’s the same thing. So, um, little bit more of a reliable option there, so it makes sense. Um, but yeah, you’re right. We’ve got a few more injuries. Carson Susi got hurt in Pittsburgh. Another upper body injury. He crashed into the boards pretty awkwardly in the second period while going in for a hit and he left that game and he never came back. The Rangers put him on injury reserve pretty quickly after that. So, he’s out at least a week retroactive to that second Penguins game, I believe. And Matthew Robertson gets the call. Yeah, even if the Rangers wanted to call Scott Marorrow up at the time, I don’t believe that they could have because of cap restraints, but now that Troche is on LTIR, they were able to recall Scott Marorrow. Um, but it sounds like it’s more so out of precaution for Will Borggan, who is also not practicing today due to a lower body injury, but they’re not exactly ruling him out for this road trip in Toronto and Montreal. So, still a possibility that he’s good to go, but we were just saying before we came on here with the customs and going on the road, you got to make sure that you’ve got an extra player in tow just in case. Um, what did you make of Robertson and his couple of games? I I want him to have success and there’s sort of an adrenaline when you get called up where you kind of freewheeling and you should feel that way when you’ve played a number several years pro without much of a sniff. It’s like at that point, hey, let’s just play my game because I’ve been waiting a long time for this. So, I’m rooting for him. I I like a lot of what he can do, what he brings. Uh if again it’s just like when you get called up, you want to be reliable. You want it’s the hardest thing to do. You got to earn the coach’s trust and you never know how a game’s going to go. But if if you’re up a goal or you have a great start to a game, is he worried about putting you on the ice to for that what what do we say the other shoe to drop? I think that was your turn for it. Yeah, that was my turn. And you can’t think that way. You just have to earn his trust and do the things that you know. He played a lot of hockey. He played a lot of pro hockey at this point now. Yeah. So I I’m fine with him. I like him. Yeah. Yeah. No, it hasn’t he hasn’t looked out of place through his game so far, which I think is a really encouraging sign, especially last night against Edmonton. You know, that was first of all, it was his hometown team. Very cool thing for him to do. Um, so you can imagine the nerves there too as well. Uh, but he he was solid. He really he was solid. Um, and that was going to be far and away his biggest test obviously because the Oilers were far and away the best team the Rangers have faced so far. Um, but he’s such an interesting case because yeah, he’s higher second round draft pick. Never really amounted to what the Rangers thought he could. He got his first two NHL games, made his debut at the end of last season only after the Rangers were eliminated because I can imagine from management perspective, it’s kind of like why not, you know, let’s see what what he looked like. And I also think it was somewhat out of anticipation of Zack Jones not coming back this season because we knew that they were going to need to fill in that 7D role. And so Matthew Robertson gets to make the opening night roster out of training camp for the first time in his career. So very cool uh for Matthew Robertson and you know he he could stick for a little bit here depending on how long Carson Susie is out. And now Will Borggan is is a question. So um we could see a lineup that includes both Matthew Robertson and Scott Morrow in Toronto um on Friday. That’s fun. Or tomorrow. Thursday. Yeah, of course it’s fun. But here’s the thing, like you’re you’re a callup and you’re playing with a team that has now has good structure. It’s less freewheeling. It’s, you know, Mike Sullivan’s got them in all three zones playing with structure. You don’t have any idea how much easier that is to understand your check your positioning. Uh good communication, although players talk less and less as years go by on the ice. Um, yeah. And then, yeah, you’re right. Like, not only is he an Edmonton kid, he played for the Oil Kings for like 15 years, looks like, cuz all the co, you know, he started young, but y it’s it’s your moment. You’re not He’s not 30. No. Right. And he’s a big boy. So, I would give him a leash, especially with the injuries. Mhm. And And don’t, you know, wait for him to to make a mistake. It’s going to He’s I like I like the coaching staff. I like what uh No, I’m saying for the coaching staff don’t like hey at home is different than on the road. It’ll be interesting to see against the Toronto team and he’s playing against I mean that’s that’s a good looking team. Watch them last night. They might give up some but they had their third string goalie in um that’s a good that’s a good hockey team. That would be a certainly a crazy test because they’re on the road and your matchups you might be on you know over the boards you get caught out and then 34’s line comes out. So, it’ll be it’s just more information, more reps. Hopefully, he keeps confident. Yeah. No, I think it’s it’s a great opportunity for him and and one that he has definitely very patiently waited for all these years. So, very interesting how that kind of came to fruition. Um, on an even more positive note, I feel like we have to address that Adam Fox is off to an incredibly strong start to the season. I mean, four points in five games, three goals. I don’t know exactly what the numbers were, but I feel like he had three goals through the first like 25, 30 games of last season. So, I honestly think it was I honestly think it was more. And I think his first goal was an empty netter. Yes, it was. He would not shoot on the power play the first half of the season. This year, he’s shooting. We can get into the power play because it obviously haven’t scored at home, but it looks they should have. it it’s going to go in if they continue to move it around like they were. And it’s a big reason is because he’s establishing shot early and it just causes more chaos and then you have weapons and yeah, he looks he looks back to old form especially on that power play and uh you know what’s more impressive is his partner hasn’t quite gotten his footing yet and he’s still performing. Adam Fox is still performing at a level that I think everyone including himself expects. Yeah. What is your evaluation of the Fox uh Gabberov pairing so far? Because even Mike Sullivan said he feels like it’s still a work in progress. Yeah, and that’s fair. I think it it’s fair. And you sign a seven-year deal and you come over to play in a different system. I don’t think Gabricov has played with a player like Adam Fox and and not many guys have. I think he’s such a Adam Fox such a unique sort of player. Um that that is going to take time. There were moments in preseason where he looked great and he looked fine. I think when the real games start and you know competition notwithstanding just the fact that it’s it’s it means something. It can get into your head a little bit if you’re not quite comfortable like he didn’t forget how to skate but he does look a little slow to make decisions and when you’re slow to make decisions you look slow. So, he needs more reps. He needs to see sort of how the game’s developing a little bit better and not beat himself up too much because again, that’s a slippery slope down. You you know, talk about athletes confidence, man. It’s it’s like a disease that gets into you and tells you all these things that you can’t do things and he can. He’s a good player. He’s done it for a long time. It’s just it’s an adjustment and it’s a unique player he’s playing with. Simplify, play physical, make your reads, and do whatever you’re going to do. Do it hard. Don’t try to play perfect because hockeyy’s not a perfect game by any means. Look at the goal against last night. Mhm. Things happen. I uh it does. I think the thing that I want to see from Gabricov a little bit more is holding the zone a little bit better. I feel like he’s let the puck trail by him one too many times when he should have been able to have at least kept kept it in the zone. So, that was that was my biggest quarrel, so to say, through his first five games as a ranger. But, it’s early and I I do think that I do think that Sullivan’s system is so detailed and specific. Like I feel like one of the biggest things that we saw in that season opener was it looked like they were thinking through the system too much and it it made them look so much slower and just not, you know, assertive at all. Um, so I I’ I’d like to see that him settle into that a little bit more. T it takes more than a camp to of course, you know what I mean? It’s collectively how many guys have sort of picked up on especially the forwards. I I mean their spacing, how they forche, the patience when they have to be patient. They’re not getting one pass isn’t beating three guys for an oddman rush. Remember the oddman rushes last year. Holy smokes. There has there’s been like negative like they right there. Yeah. you’re playing like Connor McDavid had an individual effort in the second period with a backhand from outside the hash marks that went high and I was like well that could have been dangerous but that’s the best player I’ve ever seen in my life and that’s all you’re giving them. I think we’re doing okay. They kept him above. He didn’t really get through. Um, I was just I was really really impressed and a lot of that was the forwards just being in the right spots because you need that’s how you have to defend with forwards the D. Mhm. Of course, and you have to have great sticks and all that, but I I’m I’m impressed with how quickly they’ve grasped the concept and realized how beneficial it is offensively if you’re in those spots in the right places. And I thought the Miller line did really really well against the McDavid line. I thought JT Miller particularly low in the Dzone a few on a few occasions. I mean looked like a silky candidate. His stick Yeah, he killed plays and started breakouts, I was thoroughly impressed. Yeah. No, I think aside from that first game where it was pretty clear that JT was still laboring a little bit from whatever injury he’s suffered in preseason, since then, he’s been pretty pretty good. Pretty solid. He’s not going to he’s not going to miss the the home opener to the to see on his chest and coming out and like try and get that guy not to play in that game. So maybe he was still a little banged up, but the farm boy over there from Pittsburgh is he’s a tough kid. He’s he’s a proud guy. So he’s he’s going to play and that goes a long way with the rest of the group. Yeah. No, 100%. It was good. Um maybe one more guy that we should probably talk about our Tammy Paneran. I spoke to him after last game, the Oilers game, and he admitted to me that the first few games were really difficult for him. Um, he als he also was hurt in preseason, two different injuries, apparently, a lower body and an upper body. Um, but he’s just looked a little not engaged to start, which is obviously not what you want to see. But again, it’s only five games, so maybe he just needs to get into it. But I mean, he said after he told me that first few games were difficult, he also said the last two, I at least feel better, but yeah, we still lost those games, not scoring anything. So, it’s never easy. Hockey is life for us. You’re always thinking about that. We just got to change our way and start winning games. Especially got to start winning games at home. So, it’s tough. It’s it’s tough when especially when it’s an a matter of offense and your number one offensive guy hasn’t really been involved at all. So I look at that and they wear the same number. Obviously Mary Gabrick was left shot but you know I I would I played with Mary Gabri for a number of years and I was so impressed with Yeah. he had a bunch of goals and people thought he was this certain type of player. He he got around the net a lot, especially if it wasn’t going perfect for him. Now, these elite superstars are funny. Um, I remember Gabby had 40 or 39 goals and he came to practice one day with a new stick, new curve, new pattern, and he’s like firing the puck off the glass left and right. And we’re kind of looking at each other like, you know, your goal away from 40 is four games left in the season. Why are you changing your stick? You’re having a hell of a year. Yeah. They So, you don’t try to figure out these guys. You just you don’t because you can’t and it’ll drive you crazy because then they do things that you’re just like your jaw drops, right? I think Paneran is in a spot now where in terms of evaluating him, you just you look at you look at his legs and you look at if he’s creating. That’s what I would do. And in the last couple games, it looks like that’s coming back. He evaluates it in terms of points and goals and that’s just what he’s always done. He’s done it at this league to the highest level, top five in the last five years, I believe, and points and whatnot production. So, of course, what matters to him is tangible stats because that’s what he’s getting paid to do. For me, you know, a game like Sam Carrick had la last night, I’d be like, “Yeah, that was a good game. I know I got to bury one of those or we got to score.” But I’m like, “I’m good. we’re we’re doing our job. We’re not expected to do this and that. We want to when we get the chance, but we’re not He’s expected every game to score, pass, get an assist, score a goal, whatever it is. And it’s not it’s not happening. It’s not happening for anybody, but he’s going to take on the brunt of that responsibility just because that’s what drives him. So those quotes don’t surprise me at all. And it it also doesn’t worry me at all because that’s what he’s demanded since he’s come over from Russia and Chicago. like that’s just what he demands of himself and he’ll work himself out of that. Yeah. I saw some people online wondering if it had anything to do with his lack of contract, but I don’t that’s not a factor at all. I I don’t think that anybody’s worried, especially not worried about getting paid. He’ll get paid whether it’s here or elsewhere. Um that’s not really a matter. He’s got all the money too. So yeah, that doesn’t need much more. No. Um, yeah. So, bit of a mixed bag through the first five games, but I think there’s a lot to like so far, especially when you’re comparing the product to last season. And going back to what I said at the beginning of the podcast, I truly believe that this is part of Mike Sullivan laying down the foundation that he wants for this Rangers team. So, we shall see. 100%. All righty. Seems like a good place for us to stop. Give us a thumbs up. Comment down below what your thoughts are on the Rangers first five games. Are you concerned? Are you happy? Are you freaking out about going scoreless at home through the first three games? Let us know. And uh we’ll talk again next week. [Music] [Applause] [Music]

The New York Rangers might be off to a slow start, but don’t let the 2-3-0 record fool you — this is a good hockey team. On this week’s episode of ‘Up In The Blue Seats’, Mollie Walker and Brian Boyle break down how this year’s team looks through the first 5 games. From improved defensive structure and buy-in under new head coach Mike Sullivan to Shesterkin’s steady play in net, the Rangers are showing signs of a strong foundation — even if the offense has struggled at MSG.

Plus the crew gives injury updates on key players and how that could effect the Rangers moving forward. All that and more on the newest episode of ‘Up in the Blue Seats’.

Timecodes:
00:00- Intro
1:25- Rangers off to 2-3-0 start
8:45- Historic scoreless streak at MSG
12:29- Vincent Trocheck placed on LTIR
16:20- Other injuries & roster moves
21:58- Adam Fox’s impact, Gavrikov’s slow start
27:34- Panarin’s early season struggles

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