Leave it to Josh Douchebow to have a shitty Raiders stat on hand
I think geno is playing bad. But i also think it is true that chip isn’t scheming well. I haven’t watched tape though so i could be wrong.
Sure, Chip’s play calling is suspect but he sure isn’t the one throwing the ball to the other team.
Chip I think is trying to adjust after scheming in a mediocre way. There are literally people open on most plays.
Which brings me to the point Geno has been terrible this year. Has he fallen off? I think so. But I say that as a guy who isn’t a professional.
Yes
Both
This is a team failure. The offense was bad, but the defense was just as bad. KC had several long, time consuming drives and could not get the ball back. When they did have the ball, the offense either did nothing or had a drive killing penalty.
You can tell by Geno’s face that he is genuinely disappointed in himself, and he doesn’t know why he’s playing this bad. Truth is I don’t think he’s hungry anymore and doesn’t have that eye of the tiger like he use to have. Chip Kelly has been really bad as well, and I get that we lack talent, but his scheme is either really predictable or poorly designed which makes it difficult to execute. My theory is that Pete is waiting for Brock to return so that he can get a definitive answer on Geno and Chip, because without a healthy Bowers our offense is super limited. It also doesn’t help that we Frankensteined our offensive line so pass pro and run blocking are all over the place. Jags have a pretty good defense for our standards so we’ll see how we do offensively, but a lot of questions will be answered that week.
Honestly its hard to say. Geno doesn’t have anyone to throw to. our no.1 is a true 2 that thinks his value is a 1. The line is undersized and not a lot of talent. Chip Kelly same. No weapons and hes forced to simplify the playbook. Both men shouldn’t be blamed for owners many mistakes. If the ship isn’t. 500 next season we have to move on. They have to start with building a line like they did with Derek. Then bringing in 2 weapons at the wr position (big names Evans, Thielen, D Hop, Hollywood Brown)
It is way more Geno than Chip. Last week was more on “we don’t have weapons and we don’t have the ball.”
It’s not Chip! Geno has been throwing into double if not TRIPLE coverage when there is a wide open WR down the field. For the love of god watch the INTS YOU WILL SEE
The whole organization
It’s Geno. Watch the games, Chip has been scheming people open — we nearly always have someone wide open for a check down and Geno decides to throw a moon ball into triple coverage instead.
Geno.
Geno has stunk but I have 0 faith in Chip Kelly either. I think they’re both ass.
Considering this team has been garbage 20 years before either of them arrived, I’m gonna out out on a limb and say there’s plenty of blame to go around and it starts at the top with the ppl making the decisions to bring in these guys that the fans give all the blame to
We owe the sign guy an apology
Our first 15 scripted plays for the Chiefs included 1 running play. Game wasn’t out of reach then, the problem is coaching.
Its everything. But add the Oline to that list. A lot of this sub is in denial, but the numbers don’t lie. The Oline is bad. The worst run blocking team from last season. The sixth worst pass blocking team from last season. They brought back the same line and just tried shifting linemen around. Same results.
It’s more than just Chip and Geno. Chip isn’t scheming well for roster they have and results from current calls. OLine has not been really good for a lot of the season. Receivers are not getting separation when we get farther down the depth chart (even some starters didn’t get separation directing KC game). Most of the issues are Geno however. He’s not seeing the open receivers and making poor decisions regularly. He’s playing panic ball and rushing everything (it seems).
Why do people keep asking this question? If it’s one of the two, it’s Geno. But in reality, it’s the fact we lost our only elite receiving threat in week 2. The offense was clearly, and correctly, built around getting the ball to Bowers. We are going to look like shit until he is healthy.
Biggest bust 😂
I believe Geno has his mind made up before he snapped the ball where he is going.
I don’t think he is smart enough to run the offense. I believe even his presnap reads are not getting the offensive line in the right position
He needs Metcalf and JSN to bail him out.
I’m putting it on Geno at this point, he is wreckless throwing in double plus coverage and is lucky there have been alot of drops that should have been picks. I dont think Kelly trust Geno and our line can run what he wants. Its clear he wants to run more because he would rather lose because he had to punt vs let Geno throw a short field pick again.
Both play their part in it
I was at that damn Falcons game. Last Raiders game I ever attended. Just an absolute trainwreck. This whole org has been a problem for decades.
Hard to judge Chip when he’s had to cut 80% of his playbook because Geno can’t throw farther than 10 yards
I got to put the blame on Chip. We’ve seen that Geno can play, he can be successful in that position. Chip as the OC needs to look at what worked for Geno in Seattle, and try and create a game plan that can work for him.
You look at the difference systems in the NFL and there is a reason why, San Francisco can throw any QB in their system and they look amazing.
I’d gladly stick with Geno if we could just get rid of Chip.
It’s PeNo
It’s Mark Davis. Sell the team.
Both. You have Geno with a better surrounding cast, I don’t think he’d suck. We haven’t had a healthy Bowers since week 1, so I’m curious to see if Geno can improve. That said, Geno has no excuse for sucking this bad. The oline is bad, and the receivers aren’t helping out much either.
And as for Chip, wtf is he doing with Jeanty! He is one of the only bright spots on the team, and he refuses to heavily feature him?
It’s lack of talent all around. Recievers are bad, O line is bad, Geno doesn’t look good at all. All starts up front with the line. Then recievers. Any QB with time and talent can be successful.
Both but I lean more towards geno. It’s been clear the past 2 games they’ve just been keeping things really simple and stopped throwing the ball downfield. Worked against the titans bc they suck but obviously there was zero threat against the chiefs
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Leave it to Josh Douchebow to have a shitty Raiders stat on hand
I think geno is playing bad. But i also think it is true that chip isn’t scheming well. I haven’t watched tape though so i could be wrong.
Sure, Chip’s play calling is suspect but he sure isn’t the one throwing the ball to the other team.
Chip I think is trying to adjust after scheming in a mediocre way. There are literally people open on most plays.
Which brings me to the point Geno has been terrible this year. Has he fallen off? I think so. But I say that as a guy who isn’t a professional.
Yes
Both
This is a team failure. The offense was bad, but the defense was just as bad. KC had several long, time consuming drives and could not get the ball back. When they did have the ball, the offense either did nothing or had a drive killing penalty.
You can tell by Geno’s face that he is genuinely disappointed in himself, and he doesn’t know why he’s playing this bad. Truth is I don’t think he’s hungry anymore and doesn’t have that eye of the tiger like he use to have. Chip Kelly has been really bad as well, and I get that we lack talent, but his scheme is either really predictable or poorly designed which makes it difficult to execute. My theory is that Pete is waiting for Brock to return so that he can get a definitive answer on Geno and Chip, because without a healthy Bowers our offense is super limited. It also doesn’t help that we Frankensteined our offensive line so pass pro and run blocking are all over the place. Jags have a pretty good defense for our standards so we’ll see how we do offensively, but a lot of questions will be answered that week.
Honestly its hard to say. Geno doesn’t have anyone to throw to. our no.1 is a true 2 that thinks his value is a 1. The line is undersized and not a lot of talent. Chip Kelly same. No weapons and hes forced to simplify the playbook. Both men shouldn’t be blamed for owners many mistakes. If the ship isn’t. 500 next season we have to move on. They have to start with building a line like they did with Derek. Then bringing in 2 weapons at the wr position (big names Evans, Thielen, D Hop, Hollywood Brown)
It is way more Geno than Chip. Last week was more on “we don’t have weapons and we don’t have the ball.”
It’s not Chip! Geno has been throwing into double if not TRIPLE coverage when there is a wide open WR down the field. For the love of god watch the INTS YOU WILL SEE
The whole organization
It’s Geno. Watch the games, Chip has been scheming people open — we nearly always have someone wide open for a check down and Geno decides to throw a moon ball into triple coverage instead.
Geno.
Geno has stunk but I have 0 faith in Chip Kelly either. I think they’re both ass.
Considering this team has been garbage 20 years before either of them arrived, I’m gonna out out on a limb and say there’s plenty of blame to go around and it starts at the top with the ppl making the decisions to bring in these guys that the fans give all the blame to
We owe the sign guy an apology
Our first 15 scripted plays for the Chiefs included 1 running play. Game wasn’t out of reach then, the problem is coaching.
Its everything. But add the Oline to that list. A lot of this sub is in denial, but the numbers don’t lie. The Oline is bad. The worst run blocking team from last season. The sixth worst pass blocking team from last season. They brought back the same line and just tried shifting linemen around. Same results.
It’s more than just Chip and Geno. Chip isn’t scheming well for roster they have and results from current calls. OLine has not been really good for a lot of the season. Receivers are not getting separation when we get farther down the depth chart (even some starters didn’t get separation directing KC game). Most of the issues are Geno however. He’s not seeing the open receivers and making poor decisions regularly. He’s playing panic ball and rushing everything (it seems).
Why do people keep asking this question? If it’s one of the two, it’s Geno. But in reality, it’s the fact we lost our only elite receiving threat in week 2. The offense was clearly, and correctly, built around getting the ball to Bowers. We are going to look like shit until he is healthy.
Biggest bust 😂
I believe Geno has his mind made up before he snapped the ball where he is going.
I don’t think he is smart enough to run the offense. I believe even his presnap reads are not getting the offensive line in the right position
He needs Metcalf and JSN to bail him out.
I’m putting it on Geno at this point, he is wreckless throwing in double plus coverage and is lucky there have been alot of drops that should have been picks. I dont think Kelly trust Geno and our line can run what he wants. Its clear he wants to run more because he would rather lose because he had to punt vs let Geno throw a short field pick again.
Both play their part in it
I was at that damn Falcons game. Last Raiders game I ever attended. Just an absolute trainwreck. This whole org has been a problem for decades.
Hard to judge Chip when he’s had to cut 80% of his playbook because Geno can’t throw farther than 10 yards
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Wasnt too far off…
I got to put the blame on Chip. We’ve seen that Geno can play, he can be successful in that position. Chip as the OC needs to look at what worked for Geno in Seattle, and try and create a game plan that can work for him.
You look at the difference systems in the NFL and there is a reason why, San Francisco can throw any QB in their system and they look amazing.
I’d gladly stick with Geno if we could just get rid of Chip.
It’s PeNo
It’s Mark Davis. Sell the team.
Both. You have Geno with a better surrounding cast, I don’t think he’d suck. We haven’t had a healthy Bowers since week 1, so I’m curious to see if Geno can improve. That said, Geno has no excuse for sucking this bad. The oline is bad, and the receivers aren’t helping out much either.
And as for Chip, wtf is he doing with Jeanty! He is one of the only bright spots on the team, and he refuses to heavily feature him?
It’s lack of talent all around. Recievers are bad, O line is bad, Geno doesn’t look good at all. All starts up front with the line. Then recievers. Any QB with time and talent can be successful.
Both but I lean more towards geno. It’s been clear the past 2 games they’ve just been keeping things really simple and stopped throwing the ball downfield. Worked against the titans bc they suck but obviously there was zero threat against the chiefs
Geno