HUNG OUT TO DRY π | FN Barn Burner – October 23rd, 2025
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Oh, this would be They all played games at the lady. What happened on this day in 2001? in it uh in reference to technology. iPhone, iPod, Apple released the iPod Apple computer. The first generation iPod. Wow. You know what was amazing about that? It was like it wouldn’t like at that point the leading technology was a disc man and if you like moved it would skip and then you had to pay more and like I got 10 seconds of uh shock protection. Woohoo! I got 15. Wait till it’s 30. It’ll be wild in this universe. And then you literally realize you could skydive or like mountain bike with an iPod. Okay, this is the game’s been changed. Yeah. The old disc man. It was like when you were driving, you had your beer, you know? You had to kind of do the shock. You had to do that with your disc, man. When you had it in your car. Yes. Be on the bus. One hand on the wheel and holding your disc, man. Ah, but we’ve come a long way. And now they don’t even do I That was That was the best gift I ever got as a player for Christmas. Oh god. Yeah, for something that was so great. Cuz now they don’t even do them anymore. No, it’s everyone’s got one. It’s not too bad. You’ve got a computer in your pocket. You got a super computer that does hands are always in there, too. What are you doing in there? You uh welcome to the Mloud Law LLP studios. And we’re sorry, Mloud Law. Yeah, Mloud Law LLP. We’re going to need their services after. I’ve already retained their services, so you can’t be calling them on me, buddy. I was thinking just all of us. Oh, I actually latigious activity that will follow the show. I know. I jumped I jumped in first. Wanted to make sure I had lined up on retainer. We got the best. Then Mloud Law proud of those Calgary roots. Big part of their long-standing client relationships. They understand this city, the people in it and uh they care about it, which is sincere and important I think in today’s world. Yeah. Also believable. Sometimes you see some people say, “Oh, we really care about you.” You’re like, I’m not feeling your 1800 number in that other city. You care about us. Is that right? Not sure about this. No. Cloud Law. If I walk into Mloud Law, it’s like getting a warm hug. That’s right. Oh, wow. Hey, Peter Clank. And they’re the best at what they do. Great. Yeah, that’s a nice perk. Uh, wonder what that would be like to be good at what you do. Uh, well, you knew Iggy. What was he like? He was really worked hard. I was at the game last night and somebody asked me about Hashik and I was like, “God, he was good. Six shutouts in one month.” I always say, and works his ass off and like if you score at him in practice mad and do it again and Oh, that’s what it takes to be a Hall of Famer. Iggy. Yeah, Iggy was so good. So, like what would what made him great? Who? Iggy or or Hashik. So, if you were gonna competitiveness, let’s start. Let’s make a list and let’s let’s start doing this stuff. I ripped the shoveler a new one today because she’s doing a terrible job with our children. You know, they have to learn how to have a little bit of You can do hard things. Yes, you can do wipe your own ass like that toilet that you refuse to flush. This is achievable. This is an achievable accomplishment. That takes about one second. I timed it. It’s loud. One second. Yeah. And then you came in and just like a dog, you rub their nose in it. The toilet. Never again. No. The reason they were great, they were competitive. Hell yeah. Cuz when you get to this 1% of 1%, everyone’s a freak, a Catholic, genetic freak, long armed, tall, handsome Saskatchewan kids. They’re everywhere. But uh like who does it eat up and burn the most to lose? Denim and Smith down at Mahog. Uh so you were at the game last night. I was at the game. I was taking it in. Big fan. My dad was a fan of the uh of the habitant when we were growing up. I remember Frontier Saskatchewan big big. Well seemed big at the time because I think we were a little bit smaller. You know what I mean? We’re a littleer, so the other things look bigger. There’s a big way to pick brown pillow. And I wasn’t allowed to sit on the couch and eat the popcorn cuz I’d spill the popcorn on the couch. Mom kicked my ass. So I had to sit on the on the pillow. And then when O Canada would come on, I’d have to stand up and then we would cheer on Larry Robinson, Gila Flur. Yeah, big bird. Stupid Brian Scurland, your boy. And little did he know then that what an influence you’d be part of his life soon just a few years later. What are we talking about? Uh you were at the game last night. Oh yeah, I was at the game. I was sitting at the uh I’ll tell you what, if I could afford it or if I worked for a business that could afford it and I could get tickets to the that lower bowl suite level. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the best seats in sports. I feel like if every fan in sports should should get that and time’s ticking obviously, but they are they because it sounds like we’re kind of like hyp hyperbolic. It’s true because they are so close. It’s an old building. Best seats in that was retrofit and they’re they’re on the ice. You’re right there. You’re 12 rows from the ice in a suite. No other sports facility has that. It’s unbelievable. Like I’m sorry. You can have a seat in row 10, row eight, and that’s also awesome, but you can’t get up and go poop and grab six feet behind you, mix the salsa, the salsa and the cheese. You can’t do that. You can order your seat, which is lovely, but the sweets, the lower sweets are fantastic. The lower sweets in the Saddle Doom are the greatest seat in sport. Yeah, we’ve been lucky. We We get to duck our heads in there every once in a while, and I don’t know how often most people do, but How’ you get in there? Yeah. I know people used to play for the team. A Dean, I guess. Neighbor Dave had one. Yeah. Neighbor Dave. Alta link big time. That’s your neighbor. Neighbor. Neighbor. Oh, okay. Yeah, Dave. My neighbor. Yeah, I hear you talk about your neighbor a lot. Yeah, it’s nice. Is that the same neighbor? Anyway, that’s the other neighbor. I got my own big plot twist there. So, you uh you were at the game. How was the atmosphere? Electric. We build it up with the Habs in town. How exciting it is and how much energy they bring. Were we full of it or were we accurate? You have and I can remember playing. You have 20% more to give as a player. Wow. And I’m not I’m not full of [Β __Β ] You go to Montreal 20% more to give. They come to your town 20% more to give. In Florida, new team Montreal comes to town amped up. So you’re telling me is jumping. They would have scored point8 goals last night, but that boost got him to one. Yeah. Goodness. Took him over the top. And an awful turnover. that too. Yeah. Yeah. But it was very good and and I was oddly enough odd because half the rink was bloody Montreal fans. I was sitting beside a guy with a Montreal jersey on. Oh, I meant Kent Met Kent Hughes, too. Kent, good luck this year, buddy. Go get him. Uh, what was I talking about? The Habs. Oh, yeah. I was sitting beside a Habs fan. They’re the best fans. They are. They’re the best fans. I don’t have to cheer for the Habs, but they’re the best fans. You can respect the hell out of that. I can respect. They’re making the guy was just like, “Don’t leave me alone.” Yeah. Yeah. I am watching the Canadians here. Yeah. Yeah. Stop talking to me about Don’t tell me about a turnover. I’m watching a damn game. Goofy AI. They’re going down the Yeah. Oh, did you see that? Because his wife or girlfriend had a habit. Wow. That was a good Yeah. Yeah. Like last night was Christmas for Habs fans that that either live in the city or nearby. Like it’s once a year and you will plan your I’m taking Friday off or take Thursday. What? We’re going to the game. Where are we going? Pregame to eat. Like it’s a it is one of the events of the year if you’re a Habs fan. Just you know what? I feel bad because Doug’s a Habs fan. From now on, Doug, you’re invited to the Habs game. I’ll get you tickets. You and your other son can go. Well, they’re in Edmonton tonight. Maybe you could. I hate the Oilers. I can’t stand and that rank sucks and they don’t have good suits. Okay. Way too high. Uh, Flames lost last night by a score of two to one. Let’s We’re on a roll here. Things were escalating. We had some nice stories. Go. Jack, what’d you think of the start of the show? The pre-show. Start of the show. Yeah. Let’s Let’s not talk about the game. What are you doing? What are we doing? Um, well, I just thought that’s naturally where we would kind of end up. Why? Okay. Um, what do you what was to eat in the suite? No, I’m uh you fasting yesterday? No, but we’re we got to go for a meeting, guys. Okay, a meeting. Yeah, we got a meeting. Oh, dear. Yeah. Best told me I can’t be invest. Can’t be eating at the dome. I can’t be eating all this. Oh, you got to watch your diet, Rat. Hey, fat kid. Were you uh behaving? So maybe you’re riding a horse and you lost control of the horse. So you got to get the reinss back. That’s right. invest-med.ca, Canada’s first and only private medical testing company. They’re giving you some advice as to how to take care of yourself. Some people would take it as criticism. I’m taking it as advice for longevity. So you are maybe recommended to have less than a liter of liquid cheese and salsa. Don’t pour goop down your throat. Salsa in an incredible area. Cuz when you left here yesterday, you don’t ladle. Yeah. 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I jumped on you. You were leaving to get guacamole. Oh, yeah. Not the bastards. I bought this $18 guacamole, took it home, had one bite, and spit it out. What’ you do? No. What happened? Spit it out. Oh. Oh dear. It’s like rotten. And it wasn’t all brown and rotten. It was like sour rotten. Oh dear. I’m taking that [Β __Β ] back. It’s in my fridge. Is it too late? Did you Well, you ate it all. That’s No, I had one bite and I’m like I got what? I know the institution of which you speak and if they have made an error, they will write their Oh, they are good people and it’s usually good. That’s what was so shocking about that. That would be alarming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They’ll take care of I’m going to take it back mush in their face. Okay. Um how long can we ride the reps of the game without talking about the game? Yeah. How was good? What did you think of over time? Huh? What did you think of overtime? No, I left after one. Left one. Best seats in the house. best atmosphere. I’m like, “Wow, Rhett went like three hours without gorging himself in a sweet.” No, he went like 45 minutes. Okay. And so I’m walking out. The security guy didn’t see me immediately as I snuck by. I kind of got out and I was about eight steps away. And the guy’s like, “Oh, excuse me, sir. Sir.” I’m like, “What are you are you leaving? Are you Cuz you can’t come back in. There’s no stamp.” Yeah. It’s not I don’t know the I’m good. So I’m and then I’m afterwards I’m like early game it’s nice outside the Habs which is a great atmosphere for watching a hockey game. The best seats you can get in sport. Mhm. Yeah. That’s good. Yeah. I was thinking about this because you’re not a loser. I’m a loser. You’ve won too much. You’re spoiled. This is something that we have done in in the past. We’ve gone on, you know, go to things. One of the most recent ones was when we went to Toronto for the All-Star game and I know I flew back on the Friday and I was talking to one of the parents of my kid of my daughter’s ringette team. He’s like, “So, so how was the game?” I’m like, “What game?” “Well, the All-Star games.” “Well, I didn’t stay for it.” “What? You were in Toronto at for the all You had press accredititation. You did not go like the skills competition.” “No, no, I flew back Friday night before.” No, I messed up. You missed Tate McCra. she put on a show. So, and the most recent one is uh a friend who would love to come to the to Nashville next weekend on our barn burner vacation. He’s like, “So, which which are you looking more forward to? The hockey game or the football game?” I was like, “I may not I may not make it to either one.” What? Yeah. I don’t know. I’m not really Whatever. What? Just disappointing people left or right. That’s uh you always will say to me like I want to bite your nose. A lot of people want to bite your nose for that. They’re like you’re in Nashville, Tennessee, bucket list city. You’re in one of the most electric arenas in the NHL. You’ve got an NFL game which many people have not had the privilege to go to one, right? And you’re like, “Yeah, but you know, I could just order room service.” Well, in fair, yeah, I mean that I’ll probably You bragged up that bar. Well, yeah, Roberts. That’s probably where I’m watching sports. Oh, the sports one. Yeah, that’ll be good. Jack, we can catch you afternoons late there. That’s going to be unreal. Oh. Oh, that Yeah, that’s the uh category 10. That’s the Luke Combmes. Yeah, it’s not Roberts. Yeah, Roberts is the I thought you were talking bologn sandwiches and No, no, no. I’m talking the sports bar that you said. Yeah, that looked good. Sounded good. Yeah, it’s crazy. You know what else? They got to get that other rink put up because the one here because the only good thing like the dome and those the best seats in sports. Awesome. But the lights didn’t even lights don’t work like all the time. Suncor got one hell of a deal cuz Suncor had the white. It was the brightest so they just left. That’s part of their deal. They’re on the road jerseys and they get a brighter sign. Yeah. Well done, guys. Good, good, good negotiating. That’s brilliant. Suncor shut the lights off at the tone. I don’t know if this was like some like we’re seeing a lot of like labor activities like strikes and such and you know I don’t want to weigh into that but was this a way for someone in operations to send a message to the flames like well if you’re not going to score here’s what I’m going to do if we’re all just going to not do our jobs. This is just the the hard hats working in Martaloop. They were working down on the Yeah, the fluorescent vests were on the lights last night I think. And credit to the TV cameras because I think this this is called opening your exposure, right? So this is this is how it would normally. That is how But it doesn’t look that dark when you’re there. No, it’s just so bright that uh Yeah, this is like a normal room. Whereas I actually thought if I was playing it’d be kind of fun. It’s a little more before the game had started, Kelly Rudy had already said, “This is going to be so hard for the goalies.” I was just like, “Okay, poor goalies.” Wolf was awesome. Wolf was all right. Was he unreal or what? Like that’s that’s a two game home stand. See, he was uh he was like, “Okay, I’ve had enough of this bullshit.” Twoame home stand and he allows three goals in regulation. Like what more can you ask back to back victories? Like scoring chances were like 6-2 or 73 after the first. Well, you know, Mick Mick said that on the old heat map. Hey, Mick. On the old heat map that uh the shots were from uh the outside for the flames and the slot for the hips. Yeah, you want to be closer to the net. I find that’s usually easier to get across. Now, did he make a an a dehead comment after the game, old Wolfie? No. You know what? Misinterpreted. I think when you read a single quote, it’s sometimes gets out of context. Dean’s got it. So, we’ll leave it there. We’ll hear we’ll hear from uh because if you’re going to be an ass hat, I can’t cheer for you. He’s not an asset. He’s the best thing they have. I I’ll tell you what, it is exciting. Sorry, Dino. Cuz your comments don’t matter right now. I know. Uh heater. It’s I was playing when Kipper was here and obviously that was lots of fun to have him make up for my mistakes. I didn’t know what it was like to watch him. Right. This is awesome. It’s insane. Like watching an wicked goalender make saves that are lateral movements, sprawls, toe saves, like oh wow, it could have been five nothing after one and you’re like it’s not on Wolf. You that could have been how things played out and I felt like there’s been a few games like that. Like Edmonton was pouring it on and he’s like okay there’s no more that’s it. Like there’s no more goals going in. Yeah, he was great. Uh we can feel we can talk about we’re kind of talking about the uh you and your fresh sports. You know me I’m so sportsy. Uh you didn’t get to do afterburner so you’re just dying. I’m dying to get my thoughts out. I’m dying about it. Got to vent last. Uh Habs took the lead on the power play. A heck of a shot. This is now this is firstrounder of the St. Louis Blues, right? That was then traded to Montreal. Zack Buluk. Zack Bulldook with a a ripper. You can’t let that happen, Dean. It’s wide open in the slot. That’s not a deal. Back that up. Let’s get the white board out here. Jackie Bear. Okay. How do you feel about where F is Coleman covering a little low? You got to get the D back there. He’s a veteran guy. What the are you doing? Someone had noted it online last night, and I I’m I’m not the guy to ask, but Rhett would be. It seems like an ultra ultra passive penalty kill in an era where last night you watch and like the teams that press and get right in your face are the penalty kills that are the hardest to work against. They seem to sit back and like worry about like how about we pressure the angles and stuff. Yeah. Like pressure the guys are too good. They can break you down. Can I say that they do that same thing on the power play? That would be fair too. They could also slow it down and just make the open play that’s obvious here. Holy Christ. How about you get some movement? Sorry. Go ahead, Jack. Yeah, that guy can’t be alone right there shooting. As good as Wolf is, he’s the only one that got by him till three on three. Like, that’s wild. All the saves you saw there. That’s You got one. Okay, guys. All I need is two. Yeah, get me two. Two. It’s a two-1 league, Dean. That’s what I’ve heard. It’s I’ve heard that said. Yeah, heard that in the double O’s. How did he get so low, Coleman? Cuz he’s up there and then he he’s worried about the back door. He’s worried about worried about the back door. That’s not that I can tell you right now that is not what the Flames power penalty kill whoever’s running it is saying. Get the back door guy winger. Is it the Colster or boy? It’s a heck of a shot too. I mean it’s it’s a saucer pass one time. I know. I know. I know. Get in the lane. Get a piece. I don’t know. Just giving some credit to the play that was made. Yeah, it can be defended better for sure, but it is a heck of a a heck of a play. Was the only goal that got past him. It’s obviously a good one. And then you wondered to your point the power play terrible. They’re over so fun to kill against cuz they just perimeter perimeter perimeter perimeter perimeter perimeter perimeter perimeter. Oh, bobble down the ice. So, just to to wind it back a bit, like you come home from a road trip where you get thoroughly pumped, your goalie balls out for two games. If you’re let’s say your power play is 20%. That’s not special. That’s probably close to league average. That’s two goals over the last two games. How does that change points-wise where they’re at in the last two games? Don’t screw it up for us. Yeah. Like I’m I’m serious. Like all you need to do like we’re not asking to go 50%. Like could you be close to league average? Cuz 0 for 10 on a home stand where your goalie allowed three goals over 120 minutes in regulation. That’s going to make a difference. Special teams are no good. That was kind of my thing last year and it maybe it was a stupid analysis but you know goals four you’re middle of the pack but your power plays they were not in the middle of the pack like can can you can you not find a way somehow and it just feels like it’s they can’t and even watching them it’s okay so try you can see guys you got to have more pace move it passes into feet and they can’t like it’s it’s not fast it’s slow as it’s terrible anyway so They do get a goal. Once again, it comes off of another team’s mistake. That’s a hard for check by the big man clap in there. I don’t know who let Evan Bushard wear Noah Dobson’s jersey, but have a look. There it is. Yeah, it’s not uh it’s a mistake by the pissed. You son of [Β __Β ] Thanks. Shut up. You And Doish was good. He was very good. Yeah, he was very good. I don’t think the effort was terrible from the flame. No, in the home stand, that’s two in a row where you’ve had a nice effort, but like effort’s cool. Uh that plus three goals might get you win. Effort alone ain’t it? One goal in four straight. Wow. One in Utah, one in Vegas, one against Winnipeg, one against Montreal. Uno. Yeah, Uno. That’s card game, not a hockey game. Uh afterwards the the uh the assembled media got to speak with McKenzie Waguer, Dustin Wolf, and head coach Ryan Huska. We can’t rely on our fourth line to score goals. At the end of the day, we have to have players step up to score. So, you can go to the net all you want, but you have to find a way to put it in the net. That’s the job of a lot of people on this team. And and they have to come to the rank knowing they’re capable of doing that consistently, which they are. they have to just demand a little bit more in that area. We have to be committed to going to the net harder right now. So there there’s a very fine line um in my opinion if if you’re staying and making some of the seam passes that you saw from Montreal on the offensive zone today. Um when you’re not scoring goals, you tend to be very perimeter. So we have to get more more of a consistent effort of getting pucks there and getting hungrier around the net front before you can move on to the other stuff. Cops made a nice goal off off the turnover there, but um we can’t rely on on their mistakes to create offense. We got to create them ourselves and um we just can’t find a way to to hit the back of the twine. It’s tough. I mean, I I can’t generate offense. So, um I do my job. I try to keep the puck out of our net and um know hope that our guys can generate a couple. It’s I’m glad we got we got one there. We got a point, but um we got to keep working to to find more offense. I know it’s the same old same old and it feels like it’s a dark cloud over us, but we got to somehow keep it positive here. Got to keep the energy up. Um you know, it’s October. It’s too early to start, you know, giving it to everybody and, you know, the sad story, the sad songs, and get the media attention to get the narrative that it’s sad around here and whatnot. But it’s not the case. in case we got to keep our energy up and um starts with the leadership group. Lots there. Did you I’m a uh body language expert. Oh, okay. Yeah, you got that degree in body language uh linguistics. Yeah, if you want to replay the huska, he’s ready to grab somebody’s face and smash it in. Yeah, he is fisting pretty hard there. Well, we have to score more, but I’m not trying. Yeah, you can when you can hear the table. Sorry, Jack. You can start again. Just the table makes uh makes some uh comments. We can’t rely on our fourth line to score goals. At the end of the day, we have to have players step up to score. So, you can go to the net all you want. You have to find a way to put it in the net. That’s the job of a lot of people on this team and and they have to come to the rank knowing they’re capable of doing that consistently. Constraining himself as much as he can. Can I also make a comment? I was I was thinking about this the other day because you I think it was last night because I was listen I love listening to you a big fan of show you were talking about the fourth line and you can’t play Zary on the fourth line there’s no fourth line this team doesn’t have lines there are all fourth lines right now for us to try and say well no no no no if you want to have a first to fourth line then there should be some differentiating factors and there aren’t and you might want Husk as the head coach to point that out to your guys and say I don’t give a [Β __Β ] what line you think you are on. Whoever’s playing well is playing the most because I’m sick of catering to guys that can’t produce. Yeah, I think that’s kind of what he was saying when he talks about you can’t rely on your fourth line of your goal scorer. Like to his point that that was their first line last night and was and it’s their three least talented players. It’s Kirkland, Klka, Lombberg. Like those guys aren’t in the NHL on a lot of teams. But I actually have to think if you’re the coaching staff and this we don’t have Yeah. We It’s not there. It’s It just There’s no first, third, sec. That’s supposed to be the back line. How’s that gone? Not great. Not been a good start for Backlin. Not great. And And I don’t want to be Mr. defensive, but like there’s a very small list of guys who’ve been as good as they should be. Like Joel Fary’s been great. Dustin Wolf’s been great. I’m I’m done. I’m at the end of my list. Yeah. Great. Great’s over. But I No, like in terms of creating chances, like I’m not going to get mad at him for for missing a chance. As long as he’s creating, that’s the type of guy that you can use. I don’t disagree. Uh and again, it’s not like, wow, he’s he’s leading the league in points. No, but like in terms of guy you want to ask more from. All fair needs to do is start finishing. Like he’s creating enough. Dustin Wolf is giving you a ton of great saves every night. After that, I don’t know who to go to because he was average for a while, too. Dustin Wolf, and it’s not a It’s a cheap shot, maybe, but it I don’t mean it that way. He’s been wicked the last two games. He was wicked in game one, and the other ones he played, he was just normal. It’s fine. You don’t hang any of this on him. But anyway, that positive regression that you were going to need, none of it is close. Nope. And you’re getting the negative regression you expected. The guys that are over 30 aren’t going to have multiple backto-back like careers. Like that was the thing too on that penalty kill. And I don’t know if who else is going to do it? Backland Weaguer Coleman. Are there any other 30 guy 30-year-old guys we can put it? Hi there, too. Right. It’s an aging group and they can’t score and if their goalie struggles or gets hurt, not only are they going to lose, they’re going to get embarrassed. Good. Like honestly, big picture, that’s a great RB game last. My Yeah, I’m with you cuz I looked at the standings and I was more concerned that they moved up a spot than Yeah. Well, don’t worry. San Jose’s got two games in hand. That’s Come on, San. It’s what makes this It truly It’s what makes it difficult because I think we’re all in the same Yes. Yeah, win the draft lottery. Weaker has to say what he has to say because it’s October and yes, you have to say that, but we don’t. Did you have any problem with what any of the players and or coach said because I know that the wolf one sentence gets taken. Huska, you can tell is he’s feeling it. He’s feeling it. And we we talked about that days ago before they came home. And I think it goes back to the start of the year. I think it goes back to the summer. I think it goes back to the expectations. And they are not going to meet the expectations that they’ve imposed upon themselves. That’s the key. It’s not everyone else’s expectations. They spent all training camp talking about how to get to 97 points. Like, how do you look in the mirror when it’s like, “Holy [Β __Β ] we have to be basically a top four team in the NHL the rest of the way to get there.” My I guess part of my concern for any of this is that Connie, I hope you haven’t misjudged your culture. And it’s a funny word. It can change quickly and it’s different people every year. So, culture, but the leadership group is not different. Nope. And to be fair, like there’s a lot of people, the closer you get to a team, the more people are very careful with the words they use. There was a lot of credits put in the old culture bin. It’s the same crew. It’s the exact same team. So, was it culture or was it It’s just funner when you’re winning and getting bounces. And it’s that’s the thing, right? It’s like anything. It’s like, well, my mood’s always better when I’m on vacation, but when I have to go to work, it’s my my my my emotions dip. It’s like, well, yeah, when we’re winning games, life’s great around here. We got we got Hey, play some pinball. love coming to the rink. Oh, we’ve lost. We’re one six and one. I don’t know if you guys want to go and eat. I don’t I’m not hungry. There’s a lot of somber faces there. Yeah. And rightfully so. Do we like what are we misinterpreting what Wol said or is he been put in a spot where it’s hard? It’s a tough spot for goalie. It’s a tough spot for a goalie. And I’m I I’m not trying to let him off the hook, but I watched the scrum and he was asked about what they need to do to generate offense. It was almost like it felt to me like he was almost going at the reporter and not even going at him. It was well why are you asking me about how to generate off? I’m the goalie. I mean I can’t generate offense. I do my job. So it was it was as much as maybe kind of a odd question, dumb question to ask the goalie as opposed to taking a shot at his teammates. Well, and to be fair like if you’re covering that game like the glaring problem eight games in is they can’t score. So, like of course you’re going to ask anyone that comes out about it, but like I don’t think Dustin Wolf’s in power play meetings. I think Dustin Wolf’s throw in the goal is doing his job. And I’ll tell you what, Dustin Wolf probably 3 years from now would reply to the reporter. I know it’s not my job. Yeah, I that’s He’s still probably young enough where he’s like, “Well, I’m try to answer this and yeah, he’s trying to be like as honest as possible, but literally how do you answer that?” Like if you just talk about the idiot that asked that Jack again I don’t I’m not trying I’m not trying to put anybody into a but that but there’s a way to that also could be what it was and and you know what if he is pissed off about he’s got a right to be keep in mind he’s about 6 minutes away removed from making save after save and then somebody letting the opposition player be wide open back door for a tap in and open well you can’t criticize It’s alone. Hey, there’s lots of criticism going around all these guys and back. Back needs to be done. He’s captain. I’ll ask you this. If if McKenzie Wager is wearing the C and B’s wearing an A is anything different today. Like they still can’t score generate offense on a defense. I don’t know how. It’s a very difficult question to answer. Like the thing is I think so. So here’s two things. If Michael Bland’s not your captain, he’s not on his team. No, he’s in the last year of his deal this year. Yeah, but he got the deal and the C. If he doesn’t have the C, he’s probably hurt in my feel. I’m not trying to be mean. I know. I don’t think Michael Ban’s on your team if he’s not your captain. Okay, that’s fair. And so that changes the whole scope of things. So, how do I know? It’s we don’t And this is the challenge with captaincy because it’s like, you know, we’re told that that was the guy the room wanted. That was the guy that Connie wanted. That’s the guy that the coach wanted that it was nearly unanimous that that was their captain and we’re not in that room. So, is that hogwash? I don’t know. I don’t know. Okay, but then I love debate. You know that. I do too. So, okay. Really? Great. News flash. He was the guy this team wanted. What’s the personality of this team? Well, this year, last year, same team, different result. The guy’s great. They chose Backland. That doesn’t mean he’s the go through the ends of the earth to lead you to Stanley Cup stardom. No. And this is not in Stanley Cup a bunch of right like I’ll tell you who’s Steve Matador hard ass hard nose Robert they aren’t choosing him yeah it’s a role player that’s not a shot it’s it’s a I I get what you’re saying it’s the guys that chose the C okay what kind of guys you got in that room well but here’s the thing it’s the same group of guys that 96 points last year so if you’re willing to say this is on back in last year. Do you not have to give him credit for last year? Like this the same leadership group. It’s probably 20 of the same 23 guys and the results are marketkedly different. He just signed Did he just sign a 2-year put your feet up contract, retirement contract? You’re goddamn right he did. And what happens when guys get that? I don’t This is going to turn into me bashing Backland. What the f to help this team win in the playoffs? He was their best forward against Edmonton, but that was a tough viewing. H. So, five [Β __Β ] games and we’re going to give him a pass. The farthest they’ve been in the playoffs. Pull up Michael Bland’s playoff games. I mean, it’s to me it’s so idiotic that we have to even have this conversation. If you’re the leader of a team, your [Β __Β ] team should make the playoffs. This team’s not good enough to make the playoffs. Well, so is whoever gets to see if it’s someone else like are they? So, was Jerome McInler’s team good enough? Cuz Jerome McIlla made a difference every game and won us playoff games. Well, I mean, not for the last four years. Well, it’s kind of what it’s kind of whatever you envision. See what it’s an easy Yokinan was a captain in Florida. Yeah, that wasn’t going to work. Like when like so we’re not So you want and need a captain, but we can’t have any expectation that that captain is supposed to make us better. Is that the interpretation? No. But I think to say if you’re a captain of a team, you should get in the playoffs. Like, well, there’s 16 bad captains. Like, I don’t really believe that. Like, it’s it’s it’s a tough tournament to get into. This talent this roster is not talented enough. I don’t care. They’re not getting How many years has Michael Blin been here? Again, I’m bashing. Been here since you were playing. I’m just mad at him. Was it 06 he got you find it, Jack? If there’s up there, how many games? 42 games played, 22 points. Say that again. 42 years points. 15. Well, again, there was lots of other captains around there. It’s only been the last two years he’s been the captain. So, you can only play good hockey if you No, no, no. I’m just saying like Johnny Gadro, Shawn Monahan, Elias Lindholm, Mark Jordano, Raf Anderson, and Noah Hannifan all had very underwhelming playoff performances here. They did not play up to who they were. And in the farthest they’ve gone in the last 10 years, it was back when manager Patty Coleman that was the line that actually got some [Β __Β ] done. And they had to play against McDavid most of the night. They didn’t win that series. They lost. But like, I’m not going to go hang playoff failures on the one line that was actually good in the playoffs two years, three years ago. Oh, Jesus Christ. You’re such an idiot on this opponent. It’s not that. It’s the course of the career. It’s the If you’re a a really good captain lead all, shouldn’t there be more than 42 games? Like, if you’re the figurehead, yes, he’s only been captain for a couple years. Does that give him an excuse for not having success in other years? Well, I would pushing his team to get better. So, why are you captain if you’re not leading your team to He’s only been captain hasn’t been good enough in to be fair. Like, they just haven’t had playoff rosters. Um, and look, Jerome is a great captain. There was a lot of years where that team wasn’t playing many playoff games at the end, but captain, but there was no doubt. He was the best player. He was the best player, but he was your captain. There was never a doubt. Correct. And you can doubt whether Backland’s the captain or not, but I don’t care who’s captain here. They’re not good enough. I actually don’t care who’s captain. Like they’re not good enough. If Weager’s the captain, if Anderson’s the captain, like I don’t like I’m sorry, they’re still can’t score. You’re probably right. And we’re talking too much about the captaincy and it’s irrelevant. Like has he had a bad start? Yes, he has. Has Rasmus had a bad start? It does matter because Brian Scrudlin was our captain in Florida. Guess what the expectation was? You worked your ass off and you’d go through that wall every game. Yeah. There was no And why was it that way? Because Brian made it that way. Because Brian Scrudlin made it that way and he demanded it of everyone else. So what you just talked about was what this team looked like last year under Backlin. They worked their bleeping tails off. They laid almost no eggs all year over 82. I would call that a oneoff as opposed to standard. But we only have a two-year sample to look at as captain. You can be a leader without having the letter on you. 100%. And I think that’s what we saw with Weaguer last night. Like I Here’s how I think things play out. Like we’re seeing decline in guys at age 35, 36. That’s incredibly normal. Everyone should see this coming. Weaguer is the next captain of this club unless he says, “Get me the hell out of here.” And at some point in the next two years, Michael Bland says, “I can’t be the captain, but I’m the fourth line center.” And that’s where it’s going to end up. Like that’s what happened with Connie and Jerome. And you know, that’s an odd thing to have happen. And that’s a different thing because Craig Conroy recognized that Drum was the captain of the team and he was how old? 27. Yeah. And a superstar Hall of Famer. And so you’re telling me that Backland’s going to go, “Hey Weeks, have the seat.” If it continues to go this way, I think that’s where it’s going to happen. It might not be his choice. Like when John Tiveres gave the seed to Austin, very different caliber player. I get it. But it was just an acknowledgement that like this isn’t my group anymore. And there isn’t a young Just hang there isn’t a young star here that is like that’s our captain. Like if you draft McKenna and he’s 22 in four years, go ahead and put a letter on that guy for 15 years. Like who in the world is a good NHL captain on this roster? I’m waiting to see. See, and there is I’ll say this is whether it’s a backlin bash or whatever. That’s the big part is you talk culture when you have to well he might be the captain or could he be the captain then you don’t have one then you don’t have one and that’s kind of what Daryl said but the fellas didn’t like not having a captain and when Daryl was here that year everything was a mess and there’s a lot of people with blood on their hands he’s won he’s not the only reason but like I think this team from management to coaching to the room wanted a C on someone’s jersey and so they did it what happens when you don’t have a captain captain that’s good enough to be a captain in 25 other markets and you want a captain. Well, here you are. Yeah. It’s not about the captain. It’s about the fact that the team’s not quite there. Really? It’s if we’re being honest, like I think they’re so far away right now. They’re so far away. I got a caveat. Okay. Could I think if he was a little more hard-nosed of a captain, the team could be a little bit more of a Felino, less of a backl. Yeah, I I agree with that because then at least you’re like he’s setting a physical tone of sorts and that’s why I think we you could say could be that guy as soon as whenever next season the year after cuz at least you know you’re getting everything he has. Does he make mistakes? Yes. Does he hate to lose? Yeah, he does. Does he go balls out all the time? He does. Does he throw his body in harm’s way at any cost? Yeah, he does. Is he a superstar? No, they don’t have any. Yeah. And you can’t make your goalie captain the only time we’ve seen it in recent history is like they really needed to sign Lango. They gave it to him for a year and they’re like tricked you. That’s not going to work for a goalie. It never works for a goalie. Yeah, I love it. The reason you can’t make goalie captain is why we just Wolf. How do you even do postgame scrum? It’s like if I if I talk about the offense, I’m criticizing my teammates. If I just talk about me, I’m being soft. Like you can’t answer that question. Now I feel bad because I think people are gonna I guarantee I’m a jerk for bank shots. These are conversations that everyone’s having in this market. mostly I just want to argue with him. I know he makes it. Yeah, but I think you have really good points. It’s just when you’re left with this roster, what in the world do you think? I I’m going to say the last thing about pisses me off those kick your feet up contracts. I think they’re [Β __Β ] Yeah, it’s I don’t care how much it is. It’s It’s the We signed a guy and he’s building a retirement home out in Bears or wherever the No, that was the Brower deal. I’ll tell building a house and it didn’t go well. At some point, I guess I or whatever would just stop bringing it up. It’s why I don’t know why the extension for Backland was necessary if his play if if what we’re seeing if it I don’t think it can be this bad all year. But if the decline is on to the rate that it looks like it is, you get to the end end of the season, you’ve been an unbelievable flame, a career flame upstairs. Maybe maybe you sign somewhere for another for another year, but you’ll always be a flame. We’ll be happy to bring you home. All that sort of stuff. It shouldn’t have been front burner, but now it’s you got two more years after this and the seas on it becomes awkward. It’s going to be an awkward situation at some point. I won’t fight you on that at all. Like and I don’t mind the weager thing for him to be the captain because I think he is a good example, but now you’re talking about a 33y old again. Yeah. Who’s your captain? It’s like when are the kids grabbing hold of It’s the San Jose. So, I’m looking at this like if this team’s going to be a cup contender. Like, a lot of these guys aren’t here. Like, if you just get honest on a five-year plan with where this team is lineup, like who is a placeholder on this roster versus a core piece in five years? Like, that’s where you’re at. You got placeholders everywhere. You’ve got your goalie, you’ve got ball, you’ve got Perk, who probably the stupidest rule on earth that he can’t play in the A is where he should be right now. Does it not look like that guy that needs to be playing big minutes in the A every night? How idiotic is that rule? Like gritten same draft class, he’s allowed to go. Oh, Perrick isn’t because we don’t want to get the Saga Spirits owner upset. Why the [Β __Β ] do we care about that guy? It’s the player and it’s a billion dollar franchise. The best thing for this kid you cannot do. It’s insane. He should be in the A. Time and Space are just So it’s like, okay, Wolf, Pereck, maybe Ball is a four five. Maybe Zary, Coronado, like those are guys that are going to be here in five years. That’s it. Yeah, that’s it. Everyone else is a placeholder. Everyone else. There we go. I love this one. So good. Jeff, this is from two two games. Doesn’t matter. This is how I want to see it. Like everyone else says, “Sorry.” Okay, let’s do this. Five years. Well, Hubido might be here, but not cuz we want him to be. No, he’ll be on the 18th. That whole first line go I’ll tell you Hubo should be scratched whenever they play the Habs because he tries to do stuff. That was like year one Hubo where it’s the between the legs backand sauce for the neutral zone like settle down too slow to move. Todd in Calgary Todd in Calgary was the king of the neutral zone backhand turnover. It was gross. Well, at the end this is why this year is so important. This is such a pivotal year for this team because it looks like there will be no, well, you know, if we add a guy, if you do this, if you No, no. Nope. Here’s what here’s where you’re at. Here’s what you got. Where do you want to go? So, again, in five years, not a core player. Not a core player. Not a core player. No, it’s easier to pick out the guys that’ll be here. Yeah, it’s just it’s Cordonado, maybe Zeri. I think Zer will have to be here and he’ll have to grow and I think he can. I still have faith that Zary could come along. He coming off in very injuryridden. He’s done it before. Maybe I’m crazy, but there’s two. Hanzik three. And again, like he might be a third liner on a good team. He might not. I don’t care. Bre will be here. It’ll be one of the last couple years of Balls deal and Wolf will be here. That’s it. Everyone else is a placeholder. Coleman’s got two years left. Farb’s got two years left. Codre’s got three years left. Backland’s got three years left. Frost’s got two years left. Like Lombberg, Kirkland, K Clapka, that those are all quad a guys on like none of those guys make the Panthers. I’m sorry. How long is Sharon Gobic’s deal? He’s got five years. Three or four more. Well, there’s an extension tact. So, I think this is year two of five. Okay. Hanley two-year deal. He’s a guy you probably move for a late pick at the deadline if someone wants an insurance policy for a 67. Bean feels like waiver fodder already. Anderson’s an expiring contract. Weaguer’s got six years left. He’ll be here, but he’ll be not prime weaguer. Wolf will be here. He’s got eight years. So, 2-1 loss last night. Everyone in extra time. They take that point. They head off to Winnipeg. That’s not ideal on Saturday. Well, what is ideal is that the Jets play tonight and Hella Bucks slotted to start. I mean that does not guarantee a win. They comry got him pretty good last year. Mean that yeah that the Jets are a solid score. He’ll still be an underdog despite them being on the second half of a backto-back. Shaniah was at the game. I saw the apparently big cattle bear. Isn’t that great? She’s you know hanging I like her around town the other day. Good for her. Good for her. Love Shaniah. Get her and Tate McCrae in here. New rink. Get in there. Open it up with those two. That’ll be hell of a show. What? There’s a great Shaniah dock. It’s on Netflix or Crave or something there just to appreciate how global Oh yeah, she was. Yeah. How massive her uh her records and all that were. Records. She’s a fake Albertan. Oh, she’s a she come whenever. Come to Alberta. Move on in. Come on over. Come on. Real good. Yeah. Right over Jack’s head. No, there was Was it Kelly saying something about cows? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cows and like wolf cows. Oh, man. You love the goalie. It’s the rest is real tough right now. Yeah, it is. It’s depressing. And honestly, look to June. I know there’s lots of games on them. Like, this is the best thing that can happen to this team if they somehow are four and three and one right now. Like, bad decisions are ahead. Even the most pro they can save it people are fully on board mission McKenna at this point. I have not heard a single person say if they could just add this or if they get No. Everyone is like it’s so clearly obvious you need to find a star in the draft ASAP. Do you think we get close to that territory over the course of the year? Because right now obviously it’s a seven. I do. I think this is a self as Ken said just let gravity do it work. But I agree. I think they’re going to get some wins, win some. No, I I think it’s a flesh-eating disease where this is they’re going to start eating themsel like they don’t believe they can score. It’s only going to get worse. The attitude weaguer’s talking about it already, so it’s starting to rear its ugly head. This is not a positive place to be around. I think that feeds on itself and I think there’s a very good chance that it 15 days into a 182 game day season. 15. Can you pull out of it? Can they be average? Maybe. But I the writing’s on the wall. Cuz that’s the only thing that I kind of fear is if they start winning some games and it’s like, well, that was a bad start. Now they’re playing what? To their capabilities. I get it. But like, what do you see that leads you to believe? Oh, nothing. I don’t. But that’s what I’m saying. I think it’s just too far. Like, yeah, let’s say you do win three or four. I don’t know that doesn’t mean you’re not going to lose another five in a row here at some point. This isn’t going to be a one-off. Like, oh, there was that bad skid. Like, there’s going to be a lot of this. I was thinking about that this morning. The teams that they’ve yet to face, the Colorado, you’re going to see Vegas again. You got to Dallas, there’s some really good teams out there. Yeah. And honestly, I I think it would be hard to find someone that would not be on the page of like, you’ve got to try to help this along. Kent Hughes, I ran into him last night. He just did it. You guys are buddies. We’re tight. Yeah. He’s going to call me later. Uh they just did it. You have to be smart about it and patient. And you have to buy the fan base is in. I I don’t worry about this fan base not supporting a rebuild. This is not going to be San Jose with 7,000 people in the stands. People will be so excited that there’s finally a long-term plan and direction rather than patch it over, finish eighth. That’s been 20 years of plan. Patch it over, finish eighth. Patch ready was their captain. They traded their captain for I guess it was he was already drafted. Suzuki had already been drafted by Vegas. A young upand cominging star. Yeah. But it’s like you’re our cap. All that sort of thing. Maybe you love it in Montreal. Maybe we’re trading. We’re making this tough decision. Sorry, I’m not giving you your kick your feet. And how big has that been? It’s been massive. So, it’s you you got to be a little cutthroat here if you’re Craig Conroy and have some tough decisions and have some or tough discussions and conversations with people. It’s like I like kind of like, okay, but here’s what the Calgary Flames need. New building be damned. Like you talk in five years. Here’s what here’s where we want to be. Here’s where we need to be. And I think they’ve got that plan. And there are steps that we need to take in order to get there or close to it. So Bobby brought it up last night on afterburner. Nazam Cadri has a full no move this year on July 1. That turns to a 13 team no trade list. Nasam has never uttered the word trade. Nam has never suggested he’d like to be somewhere else. Nasam Kad’s been a great flame aside from year one with with Sutter when it was clear they weren’t on the same page. Nazam Cod’s been a great flam. I feel for him because all this dialogue about trade and nauseam. He’s like, I’ve never once said I’m not happy here, but what hasn’t been talked about is what is going to happen in November and December where it is so clearly obvious that on the rest of his contract this will not be a playoff team. That’s a conversation that Nasm has to initiate. He’s got the no move this year. And then if it’s like, well, I only go to one place. It’s like, okay, well then we’ll just wait till July 1 and then we could trade it at 20 19 other teams. So, one thing that I’ve never really been able to understand or appreciate, I guess, is the trepidation that there seems to be for a team to approach a player to discuss potentially moving or waving their no move. Like it’s like with the Marstrom thing, it was so delicate and then he got feelings hurt. Delicate flowers. This is just BS. Oh, we can’t even have a testing. Like, can you not sit down with Nazum Cadrey after a whatever? Have a steak and be like, “So, dude, what are we going to do?” I guess this is really looking What do we want? Like, we we could probably get a hall for you, but what do you want to do? Yeah. You Yes, he can do that. I guarantee you if Connie wanted to go have a steak with Kadri, he’s mature enough and veteran enough to go, “Yeah, let’s go for a steak and have a bullshit.” Do you need the agent there? Like, I don’t No, no. I I think it’s more of the okay so you let’s it’s still only October 23rd you can have that chat but like what are the reverberations through the weaguer back the kids wolf when it’s like oh Connie and Cadri went and they talked about a trade like we are that bad well she standings it’s all and are you all that soft that you can’t real you can’t see the st hopefully Sean O’Brien’s not putting those standings up on the wall Sean take them cuz we don’t want to be we love the standings and we’re good. Take him down. We’re back. Let’s not be depressed. Obie loves Roberts by the way. That’s his favorite spot. He really in Nashville. Talk about Gary Roberts. I loved him too. But it goes back to the mental uh softness. I’m not even going to call it toughness because there isn’t enough of it that you’re saying that if there I’ve never been a player. I’m not I’m not questioning your this age of player is different than I agree 100%. and we were treated differently and it for good or for worse I don’t know but good god if you fall apart because one of your players has a coffee with your GM she cuz you talk about you’re going to get worse you showed the roster there and it’s okay who’s going to be on this team in five years or whatever nam codri to me would be such a there’d be a sweep stakes a center with his ability and even though he’s not got points to back it up so far. Everyone knows what’s going on here. This guy would be huge. You can easily envision a scenario where what you get in a trade is a cornerstone piece of your franchise for the next 10 12 or more years. So the Leafs traded for uh Carlo at the deadline last year. They gave upra who was one of their top two prospects and a firstrounder. Like we’re talking about Nasmati, number two center. We’re not talking about a big right shot second pair guy. This this is a huge commodity. Now, you know, it’s salary and term and age, but still like right now today, Nazim Codri would help a lot of contenders by upgrading their second line center. Fact and he’s won and he’s coming off a 30. It’s just But and I feel for Nas because he hasn’t said a word and this is the dialogue that’s going to be happening. You know what? That’s part of it. That that’s part of your job description. Like I don’t feel sorry for it. You’re making 7 million. and you’re an athlete, people are going to boo you, say that you suck, say you’re great, all of that. And they might talk about you getting traded. That’s part of that job. Um, the hardest part, I’ll be honest with you, because we went through it, is when you start getting older and your play isn’t as good and you go from being you’re revered as real an integral piece of the puzzle. to having that criticism and having that negative vibe around you. And the shitty part is that’s just part that’s the reality of the sport in the world you’re living in and it’s hard on the ego and it sucks families around in a bar. Two years earlier it was retro. I was leaving a bar one night a couple years after we went to the finals. Warner, you’re all washed up. Now it sounds stupid, but yeah, it’s like happens quick. That’s how quick it turns. And you know what, dude wasn’t wrong. And here’s the thing, like we just talked about it like Michael Bland was getting Selki votes a few years ago. He’s now looking like one of their worst six forwards. Yeah, it happens to everyone. Mariano went from a Norris to like h PTO. Like it’s it happens to everyone. Everyone. Yeah. And the it it’s so mindshattering and h happens so quickly. Like it’s overnight. You go from being revered to being ostracized and criticized. Yeah. And it sucks. It’s what you trade for the lifestyle and the money and the stardom. It’s not fair, but it comes with the deal. But that’s where you have to that’s the perspective. That is Yes. Someone needs to sit down with these guys. That’s This isn’t part of it, man. You don’t This is part of it. Yeah. Unless you’re Ray Bour and Sackic and Eerman and you’re walking out on top. This is This is the normal course of action for a professional athlete. Yep. We can move. I You know what? I was just Was Wolf getting criticism for his comments last night? No, it could be come across that way. When I first saw it, sorry. It’s when you you print one sentence. Yeah. And it’s just such an impossible question for a goalie to answer cuz I did see that it was a shot of his his head shot and then I can’t generate offense. Okay. Um, and because I do think it was partly about the question that was asked, but I uh a week ago when BXA was on hockey night in Canada and then showed the Sharon Govich video, he’s like, I hated to lose more than I like to win. Say whether it’s crit you want to criticize or maybe he was or the goalie hates to lose. Correct. Which is perfect. Y don’t criticize that. If the guy is sour after playing that game and losing in overtime, good. If he comes out and does, yeah, you know, well, yeah, we’ll move on in two days from Winnipeg and way. Like, that’s what you don’t want to see. Don’t want to. You don’t want to see the title advisor. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. Anyway, you’ll be you got baseball coming. You’re so excited to go to Grid Idol. Oh, buddy. Friday, game one. Can’t believe you’re not going. Uh, I do have some ticket prices for you to per peruse because I know you said you’re gonna buy me tickets. So, I just did a little homework for you. I see some people in the in the chat. They’re already, hey, like I’m I bought tickets. Pender, what’s your excuse? I mean, you say you’re a Jay’s fan. What’s the story? What’s going on? I mean, here’s the thing. I Your fandom is being called into question. I could swing it, but I would need to immediately be on the Family Law phone line with Monkeys. Yeah. I can get a divorce lawyer and the Jay’s or I can not go to the Jay’s and not deal with a divorce lawyer. You’re very You know what though? Stand up for yourself to Seattle last week. So what? Once in a lifetime opportunity. Say you can bypass my uh what would it be for your 50th if you got a leaf blower for your whatever birthday it was. Probably a backho. So just bypass that honey and I’m going to this my 40th 50th and 60th birthday presents are all your It is a perfect storm. It is two hockey teams. It is teacher strike. It is vacation. Just got back from got next strike [Β __Β ] Your kids are old enough. They dropped off at the fancy daycare all day anyway. Like that’s the thing like you were saying about you know the 20th anniversary. The Blue Jays might not make the World Series again in that time. They might be like the Expos. They could be gone in my life. They might not get back 30ome years to get back from 93. Or they could be the Expos and they could be they could be the Nashville Sounds. That’d be all right. We could go to Nashville. They’re going to team, by the way. Not going back to Montreal. They’re going to Nashville. Uh but if I can’t go I’m happy with going to Greta and getting banged up with a bunch of beauties watching the Jays. Friday nights five for the alley. Greta opens at three if you want to do some gaming first. Drink specials, food specials, blasting sound, high fives after home runs. They got the horn going off after double plays and home runs. It’s the place to be. Join us on Friday. After double plays on any good forward this to Jack. Get your free ticket with the link in our show description and on our socials. Be better. Not you, buddy. This is going on on my phone. This is so Jack, if you get that, you can put it up. I really want to take a run at someone. Oh, boy. It’s on a heater today. So, there you go, Greta. Friday. It’s free, but you gotta have a tick just for crowd control. Yeah. Um because when people hear the Pinder’s gonna be there and the ball game’s gonna be on, man. I think it’s game one. And then you’re It’s like voting. Cut that audience. It was like the mayoral race standing in line. Holy [Β __Β ] I get to vote for that person. I better get in line. I don’t know where people were voting that there was a lineup. I went and voted. I got my sticker. It took me about eight minutes. That’s great to hear. I like that. Happy about that. Did you go? Yeah. Lion bastard. Jack. Yeah. What? Let’s go for a drink. Okay. Let’s do the pin report. Let’s look at Red’s photo first. Okay. Who’s getting the bar? This is what I got you a ticket. This is what my uncle just sent. Yeah. Very funny. Yeah. You’re hilarious, Ste. Stu, it’s QR codes now. It’s not barcodes. Effing hilarious. For those just listening, he’s got a ticket. And you will be sitting in section living room row front seat my couch. World Series game one. I’m just loving Jack does like does like this. See, Ste knows his audience. Who’s that range, man? I didn’t know he could feel the 20 volts. Jeez. Good work, Ste. Ste still got his fast ball. That boy Ste. Terrible. Ste, you’re better than I don’t know if he is. Maybe not. I think it was perfect. Bailey’s in that car. The pin report brought to you by Village Honda. It’s a new year, but the same old story. The Honda CRV sits at top the field in the compact SUV category according to Car and Driver magazine. It is winter approaching. Get yourself one of those dependable, amazing SUVs at Village Honda in the Northwest Auto Mall and online at villagehonda.com. Let’s start with a little thing that I you missed this. You were away on Thursday. We had young Michael and Rhett together. I was in Seattle. You were in Nashville. And I just said, Jack, can we just record something quick because I feel like we can reuse it throughout the course of the year. So, we’ll start the Pinter report with that. And the Flames lost again with a lack of scoring punch and they are in the McKenna sweep stakes. End. How many times will we roll that out this year? Lack of scoring punch in the McKenna sweep stakes. I think it’s interesting that we we were you were talking to DJ Bean and from what chaos the other day. Have they started talking about the McKenna stuff? When do or when do you think the McKenna discussions will begin? Oh, noodle said the same thing. When will they begin? Yesterday, last week, last month like Yeah, going a good six, eight months on this. The uh the seven games with nine goals has certainly stoked the fires of those conversations. That’s right. Last seven games, nine nine goals. And they are still trending to beat the Sabres Tankfest record of 1.8 Eight goals a game. That is the cap lowest ever. I hope they pacing nicely. Hot start. They better settle down. Settle into that second wind here. There’d be a couple injuries here and there. Gross. Ew. Let’s go to Flames Nation. No, we got to What’s the matter? I feel I feel like I’m torn because I feel I don’t want to be I don’t mind being negative. Like I like to be negative, but then I feel bad about being negative, but actually it’s a good thing. you want. Yeah, because we want this. So, I got I should be positive, but it’s a it’s a double double entandra. It’s a slippery slope. Yeah, it is. Uh it’s you know what it is? Uh it’s it’s a double it’s extremely hypocritical. Oh, okay. We’re we are riding it’s a tight we’re potentially a bunch of hypocrites because you want them to be bad enough like so bad that they would win the lottery but then when they’re that bad you come in here captains the shits and guys are brutal keep it up perfect start to the year for team 10 perfect I take it back take that back one do you that first hour of show. Just want to take it back. Stricken from the record. Yeah, bleach. Bleach the YouTube channel, Jack. Get rid of that. Do the Men in Black. Yeah. Look into this, please. All those pixels are flashing in your face. Uh Dustin Wolf, we talked about it. Was sensational, but does not score enough goals to help this team where it’s weakest. Step it up. Get the power play going, Wolfie. Let’s go. Yeah. Uh I like the desperately need to score more goals. That’s a desperately is quite a uh Pike, where are you going to go from here if you’re already using Desperately? Desperately. Nine goals, seven games. Worst start in franchise history if you need it. Worst start in franchise history. Ever forever. Like when Wilm and Weame Simpson. I don’t know what the Atlanta days, but Calgary. Yes, it is a hoof. It’s a goose. They were better than this. Wow. Yes, they were. Joel Farby uh is snake bitten as a player can be. Uh 14 shots, 21 scoring chances, 10 high danger scoring chances. 1.8 expects a zero. And again with a puck in the crease, swinging, missing, you feel for the guy cuz he’s creating a lot. He cannot buy one. It feels like the start of what Pike’s saying here makes me go Jesus, poor Farbe. And then it’s like goals against expected. I don’t Then he gets you with the numbers. It’s only 1.8. So he could have two goals instead. Well, that would lead the team. Two goals over the last two days would have helped you. I’ll tell you that. He scored one each game. Doesn’t he know that I bold predicted him to get 20? Doesn’t he know I had him on the anytime goal yesterday to break that? How about tuck that one in? Damn it. Come on, Fairby. Take a quick peek at the schedule. Uh twoame, excuse me, oneame getaway here. They’re off to see Winnipeg on Friday night. That is a six o’clock mountain start and then back on Sunday to face the Rangers every other day till November. And they got a back tough. I’ve got people at my house. There’s a Jay game on. It’s supposed to be nice out. I’m going to be roasting a pig outside. I is Jack coming over. Ryan, what you Jack the Come on now. Party. He’s in the neighborhood to report. You go with it. Where do you need? Uh then a four game road trip will start after the Rangers game. Toronto, Ottawa. They also got a Nashville in there. Did they go to Nashville? Yeah, we’ll be there. And then there’s a got Columbus or a Philly on the way home. Philly on the way home. It’s not ideal. Ontario, not near Tennessee, although both in the east. Ontario and Tennessee. No. Sam McGee was from Tennessee where the cotton blooms and blows. Why he left his home in the south to roam around the pole? Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Poor Jack. No idea. Standings. Look at this. And I’m moving on up. Moving on up. [Music] That was a song you used to play when the the MJ Campbell move of the game. That’s right. Moving on up. I just had an idea. Can I jump in? Yeah. My ideas. They’re fleeting, right? They’re fleeting. Yeah, they’re there. You got to get them out quick. Yeah. I feel like we’re going to need some material. Yeah. Once a week, we pick a movie and we have to come in in that sort of costume like Ron Jeremy. Oh dear. Ron Jeremy, what movie are we watching? No, the reporter. Ron, what? Burgundy. Burgundy. Jeremy is not what we want to see. Honestly, Ron Jeremy might be even want to see the hedgehog. The hedgehog cuz you could come as Sonic. If you could not wear your Ron Jeremy costume to work tomorrow, you are going to be in Nashville for Halloween. You can use your Ron Jeremy costume there. Not on the show, Jack. Jesus. Just push in. Let’s go. That is the best nonchalant mistake that I think I’ve ever heard. That was like when the flame said Dominique Simone and you So next week, you know, we’ll come in as Ron Jeremy. You know, you like the movie. We’ll watch the movie as a group. Yeah. No, no, not in. No, no, no, no, no. This is the stupidest show on earth. I’m glad I paused the panda report. That’s one I had the uh Brett Rossy, Marco Rossy from Minnesota a couple weeks ago. That’s This one’s better. There’s no top in that. You remember the Dominic Simone as well? So good. Oh, he’s Pittsburgh. So, do you still want me to write this down as a note or Let’s leave some of these fleeting thoughts and let them marinate a little uh results last night in Big for Blind Man Dean. Let’s check them out. There was a few games last night. Devils look really good. The Wilds hit the Skids after a hot start. The Sabres, man. I don’t think the Wilds had a hard hot start. What have they been? I got to shut out the first game. That’s probably it. Uh Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo. Don’t you be pulling no Sabres now, Flames. This No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Josh Don, another goal. Sneaky little pickup there. Purka obviously get me out of here. They have not seen Michael Kessler yet who’s a stabilizing guy on the back end and Don has been good. 4-2 they beat the Wings who’ve been very good and the Habs move to what? Six and two on the season. They have it on. Woo. Top of the table. Gez. Yesesh. Mix in a Temple Habs. These guys are on a bender. Detroit’s got this kid EMTT Finny. Yes. He’s got three goals. He had an empty neter the other night, but he’s got three goals, six points in seven games playing. I think he’s with De Brinket there. He was like a seventh round pick. Like just Well, how about the uh Great story. Nova Scotian product in net for Buffalo. Colton Ellis, I want to say families in attendance. Journeyman East. How the hell did they get there in time? They must have got the word. I don’t know what the Saber schedule is, but he was sensational. Robbing the affforementioned Debranket. Oh, so they can let people know in time to do this. They don’t have to keep it. They don’t call up a pelchce and let him rot for two weeks and I’ll let the family know when he’s going to make his debut. That’s weird. Bold. Okay. Uh, what player? Uh, what number? Uh, 8 minutes 46 seconds, two shots even. We should see this is something another idea. We could go and dingdong dash Daryl’s house. Can you imagine that? Is Daryl a ring cam or does he have We could have Jack. I know the I know the layout. I’ve been there. I’ve been to the farm. I know the layout. I could I know where I could have Jack with the camera and we could dingdong dash. It sounds like a good way to get shot. Isn’t Jack tight with the Sutter Bros? Doesn’t he know some of the next generations? I know Ron. Yeah, Ron. Uh, tonight’s games. Let’s take a peek. Let’s go. Let’s go. Let’s go. three. Some interesting ones in here. A lot of games. Is that 12? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. Couple heavyweight clashes at the bottom. Habs go to Edmonton once a year. Second half of a backto-back Sam Montbo/be Matumbo will get the start there which is why last night we saw Jakob Dobish who was very good and has been very good. He’s 4-0 now. Carolina lost in Vegas. Now they go to Colorado. That’s a gauntlet and a couple interesting teams. Oh, the return of Marty Nous. That’s the NIS bowl. Yeah, there you go. Well, well spotted. And well spotted. Also of note, the Jets in action hosting Seattle. They play the Flames tomorrow again this day back to back. back to back at home. You’re right that you you actually don’t see that very often. It’s like playing St. Louis twice in the three-day span in St. Louis. That was also weird. Uh we’ll revisit some of these with our bet 365 segment later. Nice. Let’s go Jay’s. All right. Friday World Series. Some hardware to announce. Silver slugger finalist. Best hitter at your position. Bashette at short. Vlatty at first. George Springer outfield DH. Uh poor Alejandro Kirk had to go up against Cal Raleigh. He had a monster year, but yeah, Cal Raleigh. Mr. Alejandro. Al Alejandro again Friday. We’ll see you at Greta. Gonna be fun. Uh tickets, Rhett, let’s find a game. This is uh Joe Pmpliano. I’ll get two orders of the Pmplo, please. Delicious. Okay, walk me through this. Right. Uh in Toronto, game one, get in price. Get in does not mean good seats. Get in means hang on a rafter. It’s all this in Toronto or in games one and two. It’s all American and this is in Toronto for games one and two can for Cry 6. Can we do the concern? Well, it’s going to Yeah. All right. Go ahead. Either way, it just gives you perspective. Game seven is going to be incredibly expensive. We’re talking over 2K. I feel like Well, that’s just to Canadian Yeah. And then uh that again just to get in. Not even a good seat. One and two in Toronto more expensive than 345 in Vegas. And then yeah, sorry. Game seven would be in Toronto. That’s a huge number. My goodness. Well, that’s game. Interesting history. This is the fifth time a World Series has a team that swept the championship series against a team that won in seven in a championship series. The prior four all won by game seven. Game seven winners. What the hell did you just say? Should I try that again or just guaranteed to win? The Dodgers. No, I definitely don’t think it’s a guarantee. It’s a weird stat. A team coming off a sweep against a team playing seven has lost all four matchups in the World Series. Doing a bunch of blow. I think they flew in yesterday. So, they’re doing blow Toronto today. still a thing down in LA. It is movie star drug. Got a party, I guess. Yeah, they’re Chuck Sheen House. Fight for your right. Yeah. Also, happy anniversary cuz big home runs this time of year run in the Blue Jays archives. 1993 on this day. Three-run shot in the bottom of the ninth, winning the World Series, walking it off at what was then called Skydome. Where were you, Ryan? I was, I believe, at uh some sort of campsite or log cabin hockey trip thing in Canonasis country. All the dads are losing mind. We were 12 years old. Life was amazing. Where were you, Dean? I was at Sharkies Pub in Thunder Bay. It was the college pub. GG. Sharks. Yeah. People just start making out after that one or what? It was quite a scene. Mood were high. Yeah. Jack, where were you scene? That was dead. That’s right. Damn it. That sucks. Ratt, where were you? I was uh h I was on the bus. We just got out of Houston’s restaurants. Wheel Cutlets gravy, baby. Like Scottdale. We’re sitting on the bus in Swift Curtain. Swift Houston. I think Houston’s were bing out of the brawl. Houston piece. Listening to it on the radio. Incredible. Triffins now. Interestingly, it Oh, I don’t like that. Carter caught the ball the year prior at first with the final out and then hit the final ball in play out in the next year. Actually, that’s the one I might have been drunk at uh Sharkies. Might have been both to be fair. Could have been both. Yeah, I know one thing I didn’t know at that time that I would have to wait three decades, one marriage, two children, six years of school. Like it How are they not vac? You went to school for how long? That was after high school. It’s five, I guess. Yeah. Really paid off. You did what? While I’m here. do well in school. Underrad degree and then a postgraduate radio certificate from Humber College. So you got a certificate? Well, I got a job out of it is what I got. I’d never been to Fort St. John before. Thank you, Humber College. Prince George, the Tigers were You think you’re just walking into Hey, you think you’re just walking in there without Humber? You think you can just walk into Moose FM, start spinning the hits of the 80s, 90s, whatever, in the energetic city without a little training on the board. It’s not going to happen. Bleep you. You want to talk about the Condell Steak Sandwich? It’s actually a strip club. You got know how to rip those reads off properly. Make rippers with good steakouses in it. They’re the best. Moose FM. Moose FM. 80s, 90s, whatever. The heart of the energetic city. A steakhouse with rippers. Oh yeah. A faux steakhouse. I feel like Calgary should have those on every corner. The 999 steak. That’s how we get our groove back. And I like the buffet places. I like the Oh my god. Yeah. 15,000 people. three strip clubs. That’s that ratio is unparalleled in Fort St. John, I’ll tell you that. Uh let’s move to Thursday night football. We got the Chargers and the Vikings tonight. Two teams that I think probably had pretty high expectations at different junctures. I think the Vikings won like 12 or 13 games. My team is screwed. J McCarthy’s not been there. Carson Wentz looks like Carson Wentz. That’s not ideal. And the Chargers defense after being good for a bit starting to look like the Chargers defense, which is traditionally not good. Now, you always say before we do any wagering with the Chargers, I hate this line, do not talk to you. Do not bury three and a half on the Chargers. It feels like a a kicker at the end. I might take the points. Hope I’m wrong, but this team never fails to disappoint. Chargers Stamps are in Edmonton on Friday. That will be their final regular season game. We still need to go through the matrix of what the hell’s going on to see who hosts the West semi-final. Sask has the buy. They’re also playing BC this week, which isn’t ideal because they’re resting everyone last week, never mind this week. You need SAS to beat BC. You got to beat Edmonton. That’s how we get a playoff date at McMahon. So we can tailgate with Greg at Bonton. Damn right. Under the big electronic sign. Oh, Greg’s texting me. I don’t need a pig, Greg. It’s okay. Does ask about bean salad for the party on Friday. I don’t want you to be as delicious as the bean sal. I don’t want to disappoint people. It’s true. Cavary FC found out their opponent last night. We’ll hear from Tommy Wen Jr. later in the program who joined us from his wine seller. Oh, baby. They got to win another championship. You see how stock the medals are there? Man, what are these soccer guys getting? Millions and millions. Fancy fancy billions and billions. Billions and billions. Billions and Billy billions and billions. Uh it’ll be York. If I wanted If there was one guy I want to have billions, Tommy. Tommy. Best hair in the league. Uh they’ll host York United Sunday 400 pm. Great weather. Autumn at Spruce Meadows. Playoff soccer. Cavs looking to defend their title. I can’t sell it better than that. It was absolutely electric in the postseason there last year when they won. Here’s their chance to go back to back, win this, and a couple more games beyond they’ll have to do on the road. If you take Jack, could you get one of those lost kid kind of bibs for him? Yeah, I think they get bracelets with a barcode on. Yeah, I was going to say in today’s world, Dean, it’s all technology. We’re going to put a chip in Jack before we get to national. I’m not worried about I’m worried about chip him. A chip in your What do they do with the dog collars or the chip in the air or something? Well, they’ll put it kind of between the shoulder blades. Yeah, Jack has your back. Any extra skin there? We can throw a chip in. We probably think it work. Have we opened the uh the job opening for producer knowing that Jack’s either going to die or not come back at the end of the month? Is that posted yet? I don’t think so. Jeez. Finally, I’m going to make you pick. I’m showing you two food options. Okay. Everyone uh is familiar with big events. Maybe it’s a work celebration. You sold a business. Maybe it’s a party in your house for all the drunk dads. Maybe it’s a hockey party where Rhett takes your wife’s car keys for some reason. Maybe it’s an anniversary, but you want to sex it up a little. You want to set the mood. You need a fountain. Now, you’ve seen the chocolate fountains. You’ve seen the cheese fountains. May I introduce to you the pickle fountain? pickle fountain. Look at this. I’m just going to assemble it so that the same master brine is pouring over everything, but there’s going to be different things that people can take. These are bread and butter, like spicy bread and butter. Pepperoni, like traditional vinegar, pepperonchini, kosher brine, like kosher a lot. So, these are the quick pickles. These are field cucumbers that we did today. Pickle fountain. I like the idea of the pickle fountain. I’m in. No. My curiosity. Dean, you’re a pickle expert. You love a good pickle. If you’ve got the bread and butter and the dills and the different kosher, can it be the same brine? That’s what he’s saying. He’s using one brine, which is fine, but it doesn’t mix. It doesn’t work. No. Right. The pepper. They are going to have a bit of flavor before the brine, but you’re right. You’d ideally want them in different brines. I never thought about. Now, if you were to pick one out of that group, what are you going with? Papucci. I love the heat cuz I’m going with the kosher, like the sour kosher. I do not like bread and butter. I like that they’re spicy, but I don’t like a regular bread and butter. I like There was something I made a It’s not a I use the bread and butter in dip. Oh, yeah. It’s not or like a mayo like a tarter like But yeah, just to grab some bread and butter. No, but when it’s sweet, it’s off. I don’t want sweet. It’s offputting. That’s the last on my list of in the power rankings for sure. So, we put the pickle fountain up against Now, I know where you boys are from and this is this time of year. What would you rather have? The perogi and sour cream fountain, right? [Applause] Oh my god, it’s just sour cream fountain. Nottish perogis. You’ve got my attention. Oh my god. Pick one. Is it the pickle fountain or the sour cream perogi? Sour cream and perogi. I think so, too. I think the correct answer is both. But yeah, that is true. If you really want to have a party, you need both. But now that I’m having a party, god damn it, I’ll tell you what, we might have a barog fountain. You also probably need a bigger like probably a V8 to run the sour cream one. A lot thicker than the brine. Do you think I can do use the chocolate fountain that I have for Do you have a chocolate fountain? Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. How do you not? I mean, do you have knives in your home? Do you have bowls? Of course you have a shower fountain. How life are you living chocolate fountain? Feel like we uh almost got enough content for another food montage. Oh my god. Yeah. All right, we’re all in. The cleanup’s going to be a bit of a bugger on that one, I fear. But yeah, do you think worth it? Well, it’s not going to be much. Well, you don’t want to get too hammered and let that thing run overnight. That room’s going to have an odor. Oh, a great odor. Also worried about the temperature there. Can I just say that you’re not going to bed before that’s done? That’s true. We need more. That’s going to be the greatest prize is at 2:30 when you finally kick all the you’re you’re stumbling around like, “Oh, it’s still on.” There is nothing like the next day when you remember there’s some leftover perogis in the fridge. Oh and all the butter has kind of congealed and it’s kind of all Oh my god. You can put it all into the frying pan. I know investment. I know. Not easy. You don’t know for sure. Working on it. Why does God give you his toughest tasks? Why you good luck? Good luck. Now we’re finished the sour cream fountain. Put it out. Let the dog lick it. That’s your pender report. It is Thursday, 23rd of October. New or used, tons of units on the lot. You love to hear that. All makes, all models, all budgets for their pre-owned with over 90 pre-owned units on site and access to more than 500 in the dealer group. Check them out online, village.com, or head up to the Northwest Auto Mall. It’s your dealership for life. Do you think people like the rants more or would should we be more professional and try to be You said ranch. I thought you were going to get a ranch fountain. That would be a nice fountain. Yeah, I think people uh we’ve been doing this a while. Yeah, they know what they’re getting. I’m just curious. Just to one day maybe we just don’t care at all. The next day maybe we care so much that we’re ranting. I’ll be back tomorrow. Yeah, nice. It’ll be Friday. You never know this guy when he’s fasting. What kind of mood he’s in? Is he eating or not? It’s how we keep you watching. Yeah, it’s how we keep you engaged. You know, there’s nothing We’ve seen It happens all the time when a new athlete shows up. Who was the Calgary kid? Went and played for the Rangers last year. The big tough Matt Ree, right? He’s like, “Woo, we love Matt Rebe, right? He gets to be a big deal.” Was it Jeremy Lynn? Remember Lynsanity? Yeah, the basketball player played for the Knicks and oh, he’s a big deal. It’s happening again. Really? New York’s got its new favorite son. Nick’s game. What this legend? Look at this meatstick. What a beauty. Cam Scataboo. They’re loving them. Oh my god. Are you kidding me? Yes. A loose ball came to him during one of the plays. He threw it back to the ref. The crowd started cheering. And there he is on the it’s I guess the back cover for News Day. That’s how they do their sports. There’s Scataboo standing and flexing. Unbelievable. He’s an animal. To be king in that city. My goodness. Yeah, he is an animal. That’ll be shortlived. It could be. He’s a running back. They have short shelf lives. He’s He’s a running back who loves He was in the end zone last week. Five yards into the end zone. He kept running to hit a guy. Yes. More contact, please. You can not do that. Got Mike Allst vibes. Remember him with Tampa Bay? You could not you could not do that. But uh you know, it’s like when you went into Miami. Oh, hey, you’re going to wound up heat games. And I sat on the floor. Did you? Were you on the wood? Mhm. Yeah. Who was that? He’s probably the elbow room. Patrick Yuing. Patrick Jr. Oh, he was good, too. Yeah. What about uh Alonzo Morning? So, he might have been there. I don’t know. Big boy. Don’t remember. Tough to remember that. Raleigh. Is he there? Rally. Uh, we can uh take a look at a bet for bet 365. I was just thinking about the Nick or the excuse me, the Giants. I wonder if they play this week or if they’re buy. Official gaming partner of Barn Burner. Get your game props, player props. Big week. There is a bunch of buys in the in the NFL. So there are bye bye bye. Fewer games by just means it’s more important. Game props, player props, totals, the money line. What the never ordinary at bet 365. Never friends. Uh Jets with hella buck. It’s been a lovely start for Seattle, but I feel like they take care of business at home. That’s the puck line at plus 115. And the Rangers have done what at home? Lost. That’s correct. The Sharks have yet to win. It all uh is pointing towards a gutsy here’s my child, give me a win for Ryan Warsovski, the head coach of the Sharks, Cabrainy, Misa Smith, cuz one team’s Yeah. Rangers have been good on the road and have been dog shirt at MSG and the Sharks just need desperately need one. Is the coaches will only trade his child. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh those don’t have to be your bets. Those are mine for our good friends at Bet 365. Also, those World Series odds are already out if you want to take a look at game one or the whole series. That scares me. The projected point totals in NHL. It’s a universe of different bets out there for you. Have the Jays announced game one? They haven’t, which is odd. I assume it’ll be Gossman and you Savage one, two, like they’ve done every series because I was wondering if that’ll if things will move once that’s announced or is of little consequence to bet 36. I think everyone’s expecting Gosman. So, if he’s announced, nothing changes. If they announce Bassid for game one, we might see a line move. There you go. It’s got to be Goss. He only had what, like 15 pitches, one inning. Like, whatever. He’s fine. Monday short rest a week ago, right? Feels like it. Well, well, Trey starting game one. Pardon me. Trey is going to start. Oh, there’s your Trey. Wow, there might be line movement on that. All right. Trey. Trey day. Trey day. Forgot about Trey. Street crap. Can I get a what? What? Can I a what? I say who? I said what? What? [Music] Uh, but we rock the scoop. I’ll do that tomorrow. We thought it uh we thought this was going to be like a 20-minute show cuz you and uh Robert Munich went an hour 20 last night. Stretch it out. We’re like, well, we’re not going an hour 20 day. Look at us. You know what? Oh my god. MVP of the show today. God, you were a good rat. Thanks, guys. Yeah, when you [Β __Β ] talk people, it always goes over. That’s how life goes. Before we head out, super chat. Super. Put a comment into the YouTube comment section with a bit of a donation. We take the dough, get it to the you centers of Calgary, and then we react to your comments on the podcast. Get the work, man. Hi on Chai. Hi on Chai. We’re all Ryan Pinder today. Hashmission McKenna. Hashpinder was right. We were all right. We’ve all talked about rebuilds for three years. Yeah. Mission McKenna. Mission McKenna. They still handle to it. Get the shirts, Jack. Print the shirts. Print the shirts where someone else does. Thank you. High on chai. [Music] There he is. Hey. Hey. The working man. The working man like me. Two bucks. Who gets moved first? Weager or codri? That is an interesting question. It’s a qu It may be five years from now. Well, but cadri a free agent. Well, we failed then. Yeah, I don’t disagree with that. I would guess Codri. But you have to move Codri, don’t you? Like it just feels like the most common sense thing, but it also feels like one of those things that we’ll be told, oh well, hey, you know, it’s it’s October 23rd. The season started 15 days ago. I know everyone wants trades now, but it’ll be crystal clear by American Thanksgiving. Well, I I don’t think that it’s I I think it could be crystal clear, but it’ll still be one because Elliot was talking about it the other day. Veterans. Well, you know, if Calgary decided that if if if they did decide what what’s the decide? It’s right in front of you here. Go look at the standings. What will you give me? Yeah. Okay. This is the best offer. I’ll go with you. Wiger’s one we never talk about because he’s got term. Um but yeah, like he’s got no trade protection. Oh my god. [Β __Β ] Well, you were saying don’t trade Rasmus. Trade we wigers. Well, Rasmus is I said if I said if Rasmus is such a hot commodity, why we’re in rebuild mode? Why isn’t weager? We could get more for weaguer. Cuz you Yeah, you’re talking was the same as the Pittsburgh when you guys are idiots. You’re playing chess, not checkers. Checkers chess. And you should have traded who was the goalie Murray. Murray instead of the other guys. You are. So you’re nailed it. Wait 10 years to throw that in our face. Uh so is weer going to be any good in He’ll be good, but is he going to be the same player? Don’t Aren’t we always told what we have to He’s 31 up so that every kind of He’s not heading into his prime. He’s coming out of his prime. Still a very good player. Weaguer would be a tremendous player on a team that is very good right now. Right shot. Cheapest chips. Mobile physical. Cheapest chips. You want You want We wager or Jake Walman because he’s making a lot less than Jake. Well, yeah. Not close. That’s just it. Like if you want a total asset management and to melt the whole thing down, if you pull to the studs, you get a lot for And there is nobody better at sneaking in an Oiler dig. Thank you. I mean, one team is one six and one. The other one’s got McDave. The other has two regulation wins in seven games. Wow. More seamless than this guy. Tell you what. Next one is uh Red’s not a jerk for the back of the comments. Truth bombs. Truth bombs. Right. You were dropping truth bombs. That’s what you were doing. Don’t feel bad. You’re not a jerk. I tried to. At least not for that. You’re a truth bomber. Yeah, that’s the working man. R&B $6.99. This is really trade Weaguer now while he has value. Trade Frost and Fabby Philly looks like the winner in that trade now. Could any asset be traded for Cowan? Yep. Eastn Cowan with the Toronto Maple Leaf top prospect and one of the only real enticing trade pieces they have. They trade a lot of first. Yeah, they’ve traded a lot away. A lot of prospects and they’re not happy out there. Nope. It has not started well. They hated Mner. He had to go. It was fault and now they miss and now they’re like, well geez, we could use some playmakers. Well, why is this team looks like they’re missing a 100 point guy? Yeah, that was the guy he ran out of town. Yeah, like Jerry saying, we’re cowboy d Cowboys. We’re looking at we’re impact player on the defense player. Yeah. Is that right? Weird. Uh could any asset? Yes. You would they trade him is the question, but you could easily. I mean, you have a Rasp Anderson, you have Cod, you have more, you have Tanav out. Yep. Just going to put on you have some tantalizing pieces specifically for that team. I would suggest that should net you somewhere. Great. Call Brad. The Maple Leafs very thankful for the Toronto Blue Jays this week. Yeah, everyone very distracted. Craig copy cultry. Craigory stupid. We are Is that it? Uh R&B again $6.99. Seriously, fire Maloney. Bring back Daryl as president of hockey ops or executive role. This team should hate to lose. Huber at all. Don’t seem to. Daryl is a Hall of Fame coach. Daryl was never a Hall of Fame executive. All the above. Ryan’s right. His best work as a coach, he’s going to the Hall of Fame. I don’t want to go down another I’ll save it for tomorrow, I guess. Write it down. What? Well, I was We don’t even We know Dar Daryl, right? It’s the stutter thing. What do you think the environment and the atmosphere is like down there right now? Like, do you think it’s They got jugglers and people spinning plates. is like, “Hey guys, don’t you know we’re losing?” Like I I think just because Conroy comes off a certain way and Huska, we see him on camera and that’s how like do you think they need someone in there to come in and say, “Hey, we have one win this year. This is this is I think it’s the other way. I think they’re probably they’re well aware.” Yeah. Right. Like I don’t know that what they’re missing right now is someone to come in there and kick some [Β __Β ] over and say, “Hey, we got to hate this.” Yeah. You watch the Weaguer post game. It’s they’re well aware of where they stand. I don’t think the dome’s a jovial place right now. No, that’s the problem. Need to bring Daryl in to pick up the spirit. Yeah. No one. Daryl. Okay, guys. Let’s get out the secret Santa. Who’s uh pin the tail? Guys like bobbing for apples. Hall of Fame coach. Hall of Fame coach. That’s got to be it. Hey, Jack. Is that it? Jack, that’s all. Okay, Jack, how was uh the show today, Jack? Great show. Uh, you took some runs at people. Can we get some nice things? Uh, you want to finish with some compliments? Clips, boots, and some boots and salutes. Greg, you’re doing a great job at Bon. Greg. So, Greg gets one. Investment, appreciate you keeping me alive. Okay. Kept you out of the gravy last night. It’s good work investment. That’s not easy. Uh, Mloud Law, they’ve been they’ve been really supportive behind the scenes. They’re doing a lot more than you guys can imagine. Yeah, I believe it. Uh, what else? The beef the the the bison burrito at the place they took a shot about the Mex the guacamole. Yeah. Bison and burritos. The burrito’s good. They’re going to get you that guac fix. Don’t worry. Best burrito. Yeah. Really? Oh, it’s awesome. Phenomenal. They’re a little chintzy on the salsa, but I stay positive. Oh, sorry. This is posit. Yeah. And Ron Jeremy’s greatest show. Okay. Uh, believe you San Diego. Tommy Wen Jr. The gaffer, head coach, general manager of Cavalry FC. Their playoff game Sunday at Ako Field. Well, if it isn’t an old friend heading into the final game at Aqua Field this season. Playoffs are here in the Canadian Premier League and it’s Tommy Wen Jr. Uh, hair. Where we at? Short, long, in the middle. We need the hair update before we go anywhere. What’s this? My hair? Yeah. Where we at? What’s going on here? Don’t know. Just that’s it. This is This is where we’re at. This is playoff hair. Good. I love it. Okay. Uh I was in Seattle for Jay’s Mariners and we got a really gross mullet. How you like that? That is the uh business rally mullet party in the back. That’s it. Very gross. Uh I know you’re a sports fan. I don’t know that you’re a baseball guy, but have you uh seen the fever take over the nation? I have. It’s And it’s interesting because we’ve been going through airports a lot lately. Sure. Yeah. Regardless, like we were in Vancouver and we had Blue Jays fans coming from the game and uh Yeah, it’s it’s um you know, even our players have got it now. They’re watching it on their phones as we travel or in the locker rooms. It’s Yeah, of course it is. Look, it’s Canada’s team, isn’t it? Um, I think it’s always nice when you see those underdog stories and defying the odds. I think we all get behind that and I think that’s a story of the nation. But yeah, it’s been enjoyable watching the highlights. Obviously, as you know, baseball’s not necessarily my game, but I can appreciate um I love documentaries when they make them of these uh teams in behind the scenes and I love what I’m seeing now with the Blue Jays. They’re they’re defying the odds. Uh I it’s not just an excuse to talk baseball. It does sort of, I think, give a little window into what the country could turn into if the national team gets on a run this summer with the World Cup being in North America, Canada, USA, and Mexico. Um, have you sort of let yourself dream that into existence yet? Yeah, it’s funny because I think when starting this league back in 2018, that was always in the distance, right? We’re doing this because, you know, one, you had to have your own domestic league to be able to host a World Cup. done that, but also imagine the ripple effect that it can have. And yeah, we’ve seen that with our neighbors in the south with the MLS after USA 94. And to be on the precipice of it now, you know, next year, it’s actually really exciting to think of that, you know, the world’s best and the biggest tournament in the world will be coming through our our shores. Uh, and before we get there, we’ve got the Canadian Premier League playoffs, which will start did start last night with the four versus five game. You’ve got an opponent, you’ve got a home date. walk us through what you saw last night and what Sunday might look like at Echo Field. Well, it was a game of chaos. I don’t think I’ve seen, you know, since probably the FIFA Club World Cup where there’s been a bit of a rain delay. But to have it in extra time with only like eight minutes left, you’re like, well, uh, that was quite interesting because you’re thinking, what will they do? Will both teams just come up tired and just be KG and it will go through to penalties. But then for Halifax to score to go ahead 2-1 and then York to respond a few minutes later that was just nuts. And then for penalties as we know it’s a it’s a coin flip, right? And uh you know and Halifax unfortunately for them didn’t win in front of their home crowd for the I think the second time in playoffs and York did the ugly and came back from being a goal down um twice and to win on penalties. So, but um I think I either or we fancy our chances against both opponents, but we know they’ll be coming in on a high and it’s up to us to give them an unwelcome at Field. What has the season series been like with York? Tied. Um we’ve won two, they’ve won two, but the one in which they won here, I think that left a bit of a bad taste in our mouth in the way there was a bit of chippiness. Um look, we didn’t get the decisions from the official that day. I think it was arguably one of our best actual performances and I think it was the time where we weren’t scoring and uh we were you know the keepers made probably five or six G we were getting tired of seeing go goalkeepers we were facing being in the team of the week the next week. That’s probably yeah the story of our season. That drought in that little mid part of the summer um is probably why we ended up you know being the points back we were from one and two. Um, but look, all we think of now is, you know, we’re defending the trophy and, uh, they to do so, they got to come through our house. And last time we played a playoff game was the 2024 final. And, uh, I think the fans that day, the energy, the performance, um, it was special. So, it’s up to us now to deliver another special performance. Yeah, having been there last fall and weasling my way onto the field as one does, uh, that was a sporting moment for the city. like there are a very few where were you when moments and were you in the building and to be at Akco Field last fall against Forge and you guys get your first league playoff title. Uh it was incredible. It gets you into that tour tournament in conquer for Champions League. You know it’s it’s a level of awareness that spreads across the country. I mean they got great numbers on TS or on CBC for the final which is great to see for the league. You you’ve won the regular season and not won in the playoffs. You finished second and then won in the playoffs. Now you’re in the three-hole. This playoff format’s been shuffled a ton, but it feels like the league settled in on this five against four, winner goes to three, one-two play for home field in the final, and then winner of the three game hosted, we’ll go play the loser of the one-two. Like, how do you feel about the three-hole here? You know, you got one home game, but you also know you’re going to have to go on the road and win a couple. It’s it’s it’s a great feeling really being on knife edge. I think that’s why we play the game of sport because it there is, you know, left to chance. And for us as coaching staff, you know, myself, Jay, Nick, uh Dave, we all work on, you know, what can we do to help control the uncontrollables because as we’ve seen even in our last home, last game, you know, the officiating can change it. And I’ve, you know, bemoaned officials in playoffs before. So like, right, what this is a great reminder that we have to take care of our own destiny. What can we do with our attack and set plays? What do we do with our defensive lock? And how do we hurt them with our attack? And our attack is special. I think it’s the most goals we’ve scored as an attacking unit since 2019. If you remember back to that first year, that was a special group. And I’m not sure if that point total um will ever be beaten. What we 62 points on the regular season. Um we ran the we ran the league. Um but yeah, look, playoffs are a one and done and I think that’s what makes it special. But they said, you know, these are moments and where were you then? I think even in my bar, I’ve got all these things that are Oh, look at this of that. There’s a there’s a sign there of from the um the champagne bottle and like these are things that you stack because they’re nice. I see them when I come down into into into my basement. But I think once I retire, I’ll look back and sit in the stands and go, “Wow, we helped build this.” And a testament to that was Leon Hapkod, my former assistant, worked with him for many years, very good friend of mine now at New York City, as you know. He um he came to the forge and won one game and you know it was under the lights and and and the fireworks went off and the intensity of both teams going at it and then you know to see everything around Spruce Meadow. He’s like Tom you don’t get to see it. I didn’t get to see it. He said this is a special club. what the ownership have done for this city, what the staff, you know, your Mason Traffords in the front office to you guys on the field to Ian Alice in the present, you know, this is a special thing for this city. And he said, and I think people feel it. You know, if you’re a Cavs fan, you see the stickers around or you see the hats and the hoodies in public, the sweaters, like people want to be part of that tribe. And to give them special moments like we did last year, that’s what gets us motivated again to do the same this year. It’s really true. I mean, you’re out there working and you’re, you know, focused on every little thing in the match and communicating with players, communicating with officials, talking to your assistants, trying to manage a bench, all that kind of stuff. You’re the only guy that’s never got to go to Atco Field and just sit back, have a beer, and watch some great footy. Like, it really is a special sporting venue. Yeah, it is. And um and maybe my my day will come when I’m a little bit more grayer than I am now. Uh because I am I’m a I always say to the fans when I I I sit with them at the beginning of the season or miss I’m a Cavalry fan, you know. So the difference between my sideline and theirs is they do it with a beer and can shout and swear at officials. That’s I canend tend to get sent off if I do that. But what I did do actually is I did go to a couple of wild games this year and one of the games I sat there with my wife and we shared a beer, had a hot dog, sat there with a ball cap on and it was just an amazing experience to to be a fan. And I think that’s really, you know, what the city’s doing now is is we’re creating these really cool moments for for our city. Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so it’s Sunday. We uh run some contesting throughout the year. I am still amazed at how many people are like, “Oh my gosh, Cavs tickets, please.” Yeah, like I’ve never been. And then I get the, “Okay, there’s your ticket link.” And I get a message the next day and they’re like, “That was unbelievable. I had no idea that was in our city. Uh, paint the picture for Sunday. It’s playoffs. Loser goes home. Winner advances to the next stage. Win to move on.” And I think that’s um that’s the excitement of the game is look, every league game is exciting anyway because it’s an entertainment uh industry. Um, but I think the win and done, uh, win and move on, I think that with with that little bit of something at the end of it, I think that’s what brings people in. It’s that do or die mentality. And the fact right now, look, Galry is glorious now as we’re going through the four changes, is no different. The moment you park up and walk through the gates and the music’s playing in in the concourse, the smell of the food and people socializing, there’s just a great energy about it. And then the game itself, like I said, I think we’ve had some incredible, we had a really incredible home performance this year. That’s been really one of our strong suits. A large part of it is is our fans and the noise they bring and the encouragement they give the players is if I could bottle that and bring it with us on the road. I think that will uh certainly help because it’s just it’s part of our DNA. And uh Akilfield for me, I’m always biased, but it is the best field and the best stadium and the best atmosphere in the in the league. Uh, how have you liked your form heading into this? There was a flat spot earlier in the year. We had a bunch of ties. You went on a huge heater. You had a cold month, another really hot month. Like it has been more of this than just the steady straight line if you know what I mean. Yeah. It’s um it’s been unusual really to be honest. And I said I think we as a staff and as as our leadership team like if if this is an underwhelming on the outside and and people are think you know third is not where we’re at. That’s a compliment to us. Um it is reality is Ottawa have have stepped up. That’s that’s the difference. If they hadn’t, you know, we’re still in that top two. Um but they’ve stepped up and they’ve took a lot of points off off of us. That’s you know that’s that’s a challenge we’ve got to go through soon and I like that because I think as we’ve seen last year we were told oh you can’t win in playoffs or you know that you don’t win in Hamilton in playoffs and we beat them and then it was like well I’ve never beat forwards back to back in playoffs. Correct. So, we beat them and I think that’s, you know, and since then I think that we’ve actually had really good result. I think we’ve only lost to them once in this four and they’ve won the regular season and we beat them 4-1 at home. We can beat anybody on our day. We started the year in, you know, against a Mexican giant in Pumas and beat them in the first leg and lost and we had a man less in the second leg. I think we know the group we have. It’s just been the inconsistencies. Unfortunately, we’ve had too many niggles that have, you know, we haven’t really seen Shimik Shman, Diego Gutierrez run the midfield like they did at the end of last season. You know, our back four partnership, Dan Klomp only came in until the late part of the season. Um, but our front four, you know, even now we’ve added goatee the back half of the season, that’s been a positive. So, I think what we’ve done is looked at ourselves and gone, well, yeah, we’ve added some inconsistencies with it now, but all that matters is the next game. And if we have this attacking unit and we have this defensive block, I don’t think there’s many that can get through us. Yeah, I was just going to ask you. I mean, when you bring players back who have left to pursue greater dreams, you never know what you’re going to get returning. I know it’s not the same as hockey, but some when when I worked in the American Hockey League right below the NHL, sometimes you’d get these players that got sent down and it was like a beaten dog. It hasn’t looked like that at all with Intignay nor Dan Claw. And as you alluded to, it’s really solidified both ends of the pitch for you. How pleased have you been with their returns? Well, what what I think it’s almost like we’ve got ourselves a quarterback in Dan Klomp at the back because he does carry the play very very well, but he also pops up with really important goals and he makes us tick from that side. And I think also I always think I always use the term star power. You know, if you’re a team that’s looking along the lineup as you’re stood in that tunnel, he carries that aura about him of star power. And then you look at someone like a goatee and he’s like the best wide receiver in in in the league in terms of his power, his pace, he’s actually from a data point as he gets into the box the more than any player per 90 on average. He’ll be in the box about five or six times per game just on his own terms getting there one and one cutting back. Um so I think if you know you have those two there then the likes of Ali Musi can continue to put up his he’s he’s had a record year in terms of his points per game. um with goals and assists. Same as Sergio Kamaro, you know, he’s quietly gone about his business. And you know, Toby Weski’s had a quiet one, but he’s hit double figures in goals across all competition. He had a dry spell, but as we know in playoffs, if that lad turns up, he’s a showmaker himself. And then that’s it. It’s just about, you know, your Marcos and the defensive unit and and we’ve had Eric Cobbs and now we’ve moved him into a more defensive midfield, but he gives that presence. um Shm Shom and his leadership. We’ve got some great pieces and when I look around the locker room at your Fraser Reds and people like that is we’ve had people who’ve been in this situation before and in a one-off game that matters that experience. Yeah, I’m excited. Sunday 400 pm York visiting at COfield where Calvary FC will look to defend their Canadian Premier League championship title. Best of luck. We will see you on Sunday. Cannot wait. Uh the weather looks great and nothing beats a playoff footy down at Spruce Meadows. Thanks, Tommy. [Music]
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TIMESTAMPS β°
2:00 On This Day 2001 (Ipod)
4:30 Iggy
5:30 Rhett At The Game
7:00 Saddledome Suits
13:00 Rhettβs Food
15:00 Nashville
16:30 Flames Rink
18:00 Wolf
22:00 Flames Powerplay
25:00 OT Lose
26:30 OT Sucks
28:00 Post Game
30:00 Fourth Line
33:00 Huska Feeling It
35:00 Wolf Comments
37:00 Backlund Debate
47:00 Who Will Be Here In 5 Years??
52:30 Will It Get Worse??
55:00 Kadri Future
01:01:00 Wolf
01:03:00 Jays
01:07:00 Pinder Report
01:30:00 Bet365
Rhett is a jerk…. there, I said it.
Pinder needs to bite the bullet, and get MacLeod Law to look at his possible divorce, and get tickets to the Blue Jays game.
This show is great, but you talk about the Calgary Flames π
Never change boys π
Is Rhett on drugs..?
The disrespect for Klapka is upsetting.
Never forget backlunds 2015 playoff OT goal against aniheim in game 3
The reporter Ron Jeromy lol
1:14:34 – βGet-inβ prices are for standing-room-only. If you want an actual seat, youβre paying more than $1000.
Wolf has arguably been the worst starter allowing -7.6 goals below expected(tied to worst in the league) He shouldn't be saying "I do my job" and throwing the offense under the bus(if he was)… just saying
" what was I talking about? What was I talking about?" Then they have an add for invest med. Probably should take advantage of it