What Area Do the Seattle Mariners NEED to Improve in the Most This Winter? | Mailbag Monday

What Area Do the Seattle Mariners NEED to Improve in the Most This Winter? | Mailbag Monday

It’s mailbag Monday. Let’s see what you want to know. Colby, hit it. You are Locked On Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network. Your team every day. Ohoy sailors. It is Monday, October 27th, 2025. This is Titan Gazales and Colobby Patnode for the Lockdown Maris podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network. your team every day. This episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use the promo code locked on MLB. That’s l ko n MLB for $20 off your first purchase. And as always, if you want to hear from me and Cole even more and help support the show, we have a Patreon. It’s called Control the Zone. And on there, we talk Mariners, Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com/controlthezone. Link in the description of this episode. Let’s open up the mailbag like we do here every Monday and answer some of your Mariners questions. Ham Sagerty 69 is going to kick us off here. How much do you think the Mariners miss Max Weiner? There’s also a second question here asking, “Do you believe that instead of the pile of arms approach, the Mariners will invest into the bullpin instead?” So, to answer the first part of your question about Max Weiner, who was the mayor’s pitching coordinator up until July of 2023, uh, wound up going to the University of Texas to be their assistant coach. Um, I feel like the timing of Weiner’s departure and the sudden regression that we’ve seen from the Mariners and being able to de to develop um relief talent at the major league level pretty much out of thin air is too on the nose to be a coincidence. Uh, you know, you just you think about it, right? Like obviously this year, you know, Edward Bazardo turned into what he did and you got some value out of Carlos Vargas, things like that, but like you didn’t get the the next like legit reliever to come out of basically nowhere like we had seen in the past with like the Paul Seaw Walls and the Gabe Spires of the world. You didn’t get that this year and you haven’t gotten that in a little while, frankly. you’ve seen again some guys like take next steps but like this year for example it felt like you know in years past like that guy would have been like Casey Legamina and it wasn’t and on the flip side of that too you’ve also seen the Mariners give up on some guys that have wound up having you know uh pretty nice success elsewhere right like uh Luke Weaver like Drew Pomeran’s so uh I think yeah all that uh in combination uh I think is at least it can at least be partly attributed to um Max Weiner no longer being part of this thing. He was obviously a big part of identifying uh talent like this and developing it and kind of identifying the things that they would want to tweak and work on and to get the most out of these guys. And again, we just we haven’t seen them really do that uh for the most part over the last couple years since he’s left. So yeah, um to answer the second part of your question, I don’t think they’re just going to go out on free agency and spend money on a reliever. Now, they might go trade for a guy that’s making a little bit of money, but yeah, I I think that the way that they’re going to go about this is trading resources for relievers um like they have done in the past, like they tried to do at the deadline with Yandon, like they did with Gregory Santos a couple years ago. I think we’ll see. I don’t know if they’ll try and make a big big splash like like they did with Don, but I could definitely see them doing something like Gregory Santos again. Maybe something a little bit better than that. Yeah. I mean, well, like Gregory Santos, they should try to make a trade like that every winter because it’s just good process. Um, you know, and you know, Santos was coming off of a great year. It just hasn’t happened for him here. He’s been hurt. He’s been banged up and and you know, they still have him for three more years. That’s the beauty of trading for a guy, you know, with five years of club control left. So, they should try to make a trade like that every time and you just kind of hope that it works out uh, you know, now uh where it hasn’t quite worked out with Santos yet. But, uh, yeah, I mean, we was huge in that regard, like finding the finding the players who, you know, were being either underutilized or misused. Um or like like the the most famous example is Paul Seawald, right? Where like the uh Mets were like you got to keep your fast ball down, you got to throw more sliders. Like you’re throwing 93, you can’t be at the top of the zone and blah blah blah. And the Mars were just like no, throw your fast ball at the top of the zone. Like just do what you were doing. Uh and it worked. And Sewald and Steen Rider and Spire and you know, Bazardo, even though it took a little bit uh to get him going. um you know like they were finding these guys. It seemed like one or two a year would pop uh out of nowhere and and that that would be great and you needed that when you weren’t going to spend a lot of money on your ball club. Uh you need to find a way to to you know cut corners payroll wise and the bullpen is a really good place to do that. Um and so they were good at it. They were well above average at it and and now I think they’re probably just closer to average. I mean like they’ve had some hits since he left. He got a really good year out of Colin Snyder uh just last year. Um and again it’s they’ve identified some guy like Drew Pomearance would have been an one of those top guys. He would have been up there with you know uh Paul Seald had they kept him around but they didn’t identify him well enough. Tyson Miller another guy like that um who they had they brought in they saw something they identified him correctly but then once they had him they didn’t identify him as the guy that you know would pop and and they chose you know Casey Legamino over Drew Pomerance this year. Whoops. like it’s just one of those things where, you know, they’ve they’ve had some success in in signing that guy, but they haven’t been able to keep him around and and successfully utilize that player. Um they’ve done it a couple times over the years without uh Weiner, but uh it it it’s clearly some kind of impact because they’re not as good at it as they used to be. Um so, you know, yeah, I think they do miss him to some extent. I don’t know how much. Like I’m not going to pretend I know the the the full extent of you know his role and how much he had a hand in that but uh yeah I mean pretty clearly the results would say he was important uh and uh yeah so do I think the mayors are going to go spend and like are they going to give I don’t even know Robert Suarez are they going to go give him uh you know $20 million a year no No. No. And it’s also just in general not a great free agents market for relievers. Like there’s some guys, but there’s always some guys. There’s always guys. Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. You know, and and by the way, even like uh was it Marosa yesterday, you know, broached the idea like the Mariners might want to go to Munoz and try to sign him to another extension even though he’s got three years left on his deal. No, they shouldn’t. Like the Mariners are not a team that should be spending $15 million a year on a reliever one guy. Uh because they’re not going to spend enough to back that up. Like if if you’re Yeah. If you’re the Dodgers and you’re going to spend more money than you know whoever, then you can afford to risk $20 million a year on on Tanner Scott, which by the way did not work. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, you could afford to do the 20 million thing on Josh Hater, which whether or not that’s worked kind of up in the air. He’s been good, but like, has it been worth it? Not really. Yeah. I mean, like even even with Edwin, right, and the contract the Mets gave Edwin, like Edwin has had some dominant years, some dominant months, but he’s also been kind of inconsistent at times. So, like in the end, yeah, he’s a reliever. Like relievers are so even the best of them, they’re so finicky, they’re so volatile. Like you just you don’t know what you’re going to get on a year-to-year basis. I just have never subscribed to the idea of like, yeah, you should pay real real money. Uh because it just it never it just never seems like you’re going to get that that value back. It just to to me the best way to build a bullpen is to constantly filter guys out. Now you keep a couple of them if you can get them on, you know, pretty team friendly deals and, you know, like the Maras have here with like Munoz, for example, but for the most part, you just try to filter guys out and trust your development here. And again, you know, just going to tie this all back together, like it just doesn’t seem like the Mariners have been great in that department lately uh since Max Weiner left. All right, we’ll answer more of your questions here in just a moment, but first a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Errors podcast is brought to you by FanDuel. The NBA is back and there’s no better place to get in on the action than FanDuel, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. Even if you miss the start of the game or want to ride the hot hand, FanDuel has live bets on everything from who will score next to fourth quarter comebacks. 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They have while they are great up the middle in terms of like their catcher and their center fielder. Um, and they’ve had, you know, pretty good defense at, you know, in right field with like Victor Robas, for example. And they had they had really good first base defense, you know, after they traded for Josh Naylor. Overall, defense was a problem for them in a lot of different areas this year. And it’s been an a problem area for them for multiple years now. And it’s like, okay, I get it. Pitching is is the biggest part of run prevention. But if you were going to be a run prevention team, why are you letting this fall by the wayside so much in so many different positions? Yeah. So, I want to see them get better defensively. If that comes at a sacrifice of some offense, so be it. And look, I know that you’re not going to be elite defensively everywhere. I know that that’s not possible if you’re trying to balance having a, you know, a viable offense with being a run prevention team, but you know, like for example, like Randy Rosarena probably going to be back in 2026. He’s obviously not a good left fielder defensively. No, but you can live with it because he’s a 130 W wrc plus guy and you know he almost went 30 this year. Yeah, sure. But like the Mariners are plus at catcher and center field. Yep. When Victor Robles is healthy, he is above average in right, but he wasn’t healthy for pretty much the entire year. So you have you were below average in right field for the most part. You were below average in left. You were below average at second for a good chunk of the year, especially when Polo started to play there more. You’re below average at shortstop. You’re below average at third. Yeah. Like Well, and like with Ben Williamson, right, you got great defensive value there, but uh William Yeah. Like you need something between Gino and Ben Williamson. That’s what you want at third base. Yeah. Um, you know, can I get a league average bat and a and at the very least a slightly above league average glove? Abraham Toro. So, minus the league average bat part. Uh, my answer to this question would be talent. Just get more talent. Sure. I mean, I know that’s the easy answer. Um, you know, I think it’s not guaranteed, but I think if you do get better defensively, in theory, your, you know, your defense would get better because just the archetype of a player, typically good defenders, they don’t have as much power, you know, just it’s just just kind of how it goes most of the time. Like if for example, second base, like Nicoer, right? If you think, oh, I need better second base defense. I’m going to go trade for Nicoer. It’s like, okay, well, Warner also helps your contact and your speed, you know. So, having this kind of like idea that like, oh, I want to approach defense probably, not definitely, but probably going to improve your athleticism, uh, and your contact rates as well. Uh, now at third base, it’s different because that’s just such a power hitting position, blah blah blah. But, yeah. Um, yeah, defense, I think, is an important one. I think defense is more important than than contact rates and and all that. Um, for me, like if we’re doing like a real like area, not just, you know, uh, I think some more swing and miss out of the bullpen would be really nice. Huge. Yeah. Yeah. So, I I think that’s what I’m looking at. More swing and miss out of the bullpen defense. Run prevention still a big part of this. And again, if you want to be a run prevention team, fine. The Mariners this year kind of middle of the pack in run prevention. And you know, a good good deal of that is their starting pitching injuries, but the bullpen didn’t miss a ton of bats. And if you’re going to allow contact to a below average defense, you’re going to give more runs, period. So, I think some swinging miss out of the bullpen would be really nice. Again, what was a big issue in game six and, you know, in an opportunity where you could go to the World Series, you committed three errors. Yeah. Like again, it’s just you’re saying that you want to be one thing, but ultimately the product that you’re fielding in a way is the antithesis of that, right? Like again, like I know that you’re not going to be incredible defensively at every single spot, but you need to get you need to make a real effort to get better in those areas and at least get as close to average at every position as possible. Mhm. Um, the other thing that I would say here, I think you need a real leadoff hitter. Yeah. Like a real traditional leadoff hitter. I like JP more as like the nine-hole hitter, eight hole, nine hole hitter. Uh, I think he’s a good page turner. Uh, and he’s too streaky to be a your full-time leadoff guy. Yeah. And while I really like Randy, I like Randy more somewhere in the the middle of my lineup. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I would like a legit traditional leadoff hitter. Hey, Nicoer kind of a great fit for that. Checks a lot of boxes, doesn’t he? Checks off a lot of the other boxes that we just talked about as well. So, pretty much everything we’ve talked about except more swing and miss out of the bullpin, which maybe he’s got a knuckle ball. I don’t know. fan wants to know, “With Garver most likely gone, does that mean Harry Ford is in line to be the backup catcher in your opinion?” Um, yeah, for now. I mean, he might get traded, though. Uh, there’s always that possibility. And at that point, if uh Harry does get traded, I think they should actually entertain the possibility of bringing Mitch Garver back as just the, you know, strict backup catcher. If it’s going to cost like three million bucks, sure, why not? He’s a fine backup catcher. The problem with Mitch Garver is that he was like pime he was your primary right-handed bat to come off the bench against a lefty. Yeah, that’s that’s an issue. But as a backup catcher, he’s totally fine. Yeah, he’s he’s totally fine. And he and he knows this pitching staff very well. So you already have that rapport in place. Yep. So yeah, if if Harry is no longer part of the club, I think they should actually legitimately look at bringing Garver back into the fold. And again, if it’s just as a as a backup catcher, that is totally fine. The issue with Garver and his tenure in Seattle was that you brought him in for the bat and the bat significantly regressed and pretty much all the power that he had in Minnesota and Texas was sapped. Was gone. It just disappeared. Yeah, Garver three, three and a half, four million bucks is totally fine. It’s a good value there. Uh just from being a backup catcher in general. So yeah, uh I think Harry Ford’s the guy, but if they trade him, they’re not going to go and, you know, they’re not going to go with Blake Hunt as the backup catcher. Like it’s too important of a position to go with Jacob Noddingham for an entire year. Like they’re they’re going to want to bring in a veteran to be the backup catcher. And um there’s really not a lot of, you know, back like true backup catchers that make more sense for this club than Mitch Garver. So if Harry Ford’s here, he’ll be the backup. The Mars will have saved, you know, about 3 million bucks on the bench uh by having Harry Ford available. Uh and he’ll provide different things like athleticism and base running and and all that off the bench. If they do trade Harry Ford, then yeah, I think Garver’s uh kind of the ideal backup catcher to go and resign if you can. All right, we got a few more of your questions to answer here in just a moment, but first a reminder. 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Again, that’s promo code LOC K MLB for $20 off. Swipe, tap, ticket, go download Game Time today. And you’re listening to the Lock Time Errors podcast. It’s Mailbag Monday. Let’s get back into your questions. Mariners fan 2412 wants to know for a potential Trick Scooble trade. What could a package possibly look like? The place that we’ve landed on, and Mark Fein uh of MLB.com did an article where he talked to some people around the league about this. They kind of landed in a similar area, the Corbin Burns trade, but something a bit better than that, like somewhere between the Corbin Burns trade and the Garrett Crochet trade. the the Burns trade was one top 100 prospect, one former top 100 prospect who had some major league seasoning but wasn’t all that good and a comp round a pick, right? And for Crochet, I believe it was three top 100 prospects uh was in that deal. So I think two is probably the number you land on uh if you’re the Mariners. And I think you know if you’re the Tigers, you’re gonna be like, “Okay, give us Coleterson.” and you’re going to say no. You’re going to say no to that. You’re going to say no to Kate Anderson, too, I would think. Um, after that, I think you’re open to anything if you do in fact have interest in Scubal, but I do think it’s going to be um probably two top 100 prospects and then like a third like good prospect, but maybe not elite prospect. And this is where the Mariners kind of get into a little bit of a gray area is that the Mariners top nine or 10 are so good that naturally there’s a huge drop off in like the 11 to 20 range from the 1 to 10 range. So you might not have that like middle ground prospect. Uh you know like I guess maybe Luke Stevenson is probably your closest thing but you know it’s it’s a very difficult thing to navigate but I think it’s going to be two top 100 prospects. you are probably going to have a comp round B pick this year. So maybe it’s something like and I would imagine the Tigers would prefer guys who are pretty close to the big leagues. So maybe it’s something like Laz and SA or Laz and and maybe like more of a Sloan and then like a comp round your comp round B pick you in the conversation. I don’t know if it gets it done though. Kent wants to know, “Unless Kate Anderson and Colt Emerson make very big impacts in 2026, I don’t see how the M’s feel a better team next year. We sign Josh Naylor, which we should do, and there will be enough money left to sign maybe Willie Castro. You can make some lateral trades to help, but better than 2025.” question mark. Well, Kent, it sounds like you’re describing the same dilemma Ty and I have as we begin to craft our offseason plan, which you all can listen to by subscribing to our Patreon down below. Uh we will start that process today. And this is a very real problem that I ran into crafting my individual plan. And today, Ty and I will share our plans with each other and then we will ball them all up and throw them away and try and come together into some kind of agreement. It’s it’s a lot of fun. probably for you guys. But yeah, I mean it is you look at it and you say, “Okay, let’s say hypothetically the Mariners do go to, you know, 165, 170.” Cool. Right now to bring back everybody except for the two obvious non-tender guys, you’re at about 125. And then with and that everybody who’s not a free agent, like all the ARP guys, you’re at 125. And then you always have to leave like 5 to 7 million open uh just for like inseason callups and stuff like that, emergencies that come up in the middle of the year and you have to call guys up from the 40 man. So in reality they’re at about 130. So even if you have $35 million to spend, Josh Naylor is going to take 18 to 20ish of that and boom, yeah, you have $15 million to spend. you saw second base, third base, right field, DH, shortstop, uh in theory, bullpen, uh and you only have $15 million. So, you have to pick and choose what you’re going to go out and try to get. It’s it’s it’s a problem that I definitely ran into, uh doing my offseason plan. Uh so, yeah, it’s kind of do you want to spend the last $15 million on one guy and then kind of go with the rookies or do you want to try and get three like part-time players and kind of make it work that way? uh or do you have to salary dump players or or try to get really creative and trade salaries to to build a better team? So, it is a difficult uh maneuver there. Um it is worth noting that uh also Cal Raleigh is almost certainly going to decline. Uh you know, he’s going to come back to the mean a little bit, but you’re also not factoring in, you know, a full season of Josh Naylor, uh who was almost a two- win player in oneird of a season here. That’s better than the other twothirds of all the Mariners first baseman did combined. And so that’s a huge uh jump. You’re not factoring in the possibility of regression to the mean in a positive sense with the starting pitching staff who all kind of have down years this year except for Brian. Uh that’s certainly a possibility. You’re not factoring in improvements of Cole Young. You’re not factoring in, you know, uh Julio possibly taking another step. So, like it is hard to, you know, build a better team on paper with the budget, but you also have to factor in that like players do get better from year to year. Like, we’re assuming like, oh, Cole Young is going to be what he was last year. That’s, you know, a safe place to assume, but what if Cole Young hits 260 with a 340 on base is like a three- win second base? That is not outside the realm of possibility whatsoever. So, yeah, I I think you’re right. Uh, but also I think you need to factor in some positive regression along with negative regression as well. All right, Nick wants to know, uh, what are the odds Steven Quan is back on the market this winter? Could he play right field? I I would say pretty good chance because it seemed like they were pretty close to trading him at the deadline. At one point, I believe it was Rosenthal said the Guardians are expected to trade Stephen Quan before the deadline. And then for whatever reason, it it fell apart. It didn’t materialize in time. But yeah, he’s got two years left. He’s starting to make real money. Cleveland is legitimately one of the uh you know uh most frugal teams. They don’t like they let Francisco Lindor walk who’s like one of the best players they’ve ever had. Uh so yeah, I mean they’re not afraid to wait a year and trade a guy with one year left even though they know they’ll get less in return for that player. They did it with Naylor. They did it with uh they did it with Lindor. Uh so they’re not afraid to hold on to guys until their final until their walk year and trade him in the offseason. But this is about the time they would start to consider trading Steven Quan. because we heard the the rumors that like, oh, there’s teams who think he’s going to be traded, you know, this deadline. I I think it’s safe to say that he is available. It’s just you’re going to have to pay a little bit for him. Um, obviously more than you would a year from now, but yes, I do think he is going to be made available. Whether or not he gets moved, I don’t know. But I I don’t think you’re wasting your time to pick up the phone and and call them uh on Quan. Uh, could he play right field? I think so. Yes. Yeah. He’s one of the best in baseball. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. I don’t know of his stuff, but I know for quite a while he led the American League in like outfield assist. Like he’s got a strong accurate arm. Uh he u he was 100 percentile on arm value this year. Yeah. Yeah. So, and again, it’s not like it’s not like um Addison Barger’s arm where it’s just like, oh my god, he’s it’s a howitzer. Like no, it’s it’s a very strong arm, but it’s accurate, too. And he has a quick release and all that. Like arm strength is what you worry about in right field. they have to make the longest throws on the field. Quan has plenty of arm strength to handle that position. 68 percentile in arm strength, but 100 percentile and arm value. So, right. So, he’s got plenty of arm strength to handle that position. By the reason you want your stronger arm in right field is just because they make longer throws. Yeah. Right. The throw from left field to second base uh in right field to second base. I mean, obviously depending on where the ball is hit, but for the most part the same. The throw from left field to third base and right field to third base much longer from right. So that’s why you want your best arm in right field. And uh Quan has a better arm. I mean, in this scenario, you would assume that, you know, Randy Rosena is the other corner outfielder. Well, Randy doesn’t have a good arm, so he needs to play left. So that means Quan kind of has to play right. Could he do it? Yeah, he’d be fine there. No question about it. Probably plus. All right, that is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Mariners podcast for Colobby Patnode. I’m Ting Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at l_mmers. You can follow me at Tutting Gazales and Colby at CPAD 11. That’s CPAT11. We’re also on Blue Sky. You can follow me at TDG, Colby at MLB Colby and the show at Locked Mariners. You can also find us on Instagram at Lockdown Mariners. 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