Stop Complaining about Draft Position and Enjoy the Win!
October 27, 2025
Stop Complaining about Draft Position and Enjoy the Win!
39 comments
2023 is debatable now imo.
Statistically taking a QB #1 overall is more likely to hit than at any other spot.
wow… 2015 was a real stinker, huh?
Best QB from 2024 is still TBD.
And even then, Caleb and Young were obvious #1 picks. There’s no QB like that this year and you have 4 that could realistically go #1 overall, so this would be an ideal year to have a higher pick and go get your guy.
Woody going to kill any qb anyways…. SELL THE TEAM
So you’re saying out of the last 10 years the number one draft pick has had the best qb 40 percent of the time. That’s pretty good odds to get a good qb
How’d they rate Trevor Lawrence above Zach?
/s
For those of you keeping count, the last quarterback that was drafted first overall and won a Super Bowl was Matthew Stafford, who was drafted in 2009. And he didn’t even win a Super Bowl for his original team that drafted him.
The last quarterback to be drafted first overall and win a Super Bowl for the team that drafted him… Yeah… I know I know technically the chargers drafted him… Got it… Was Eli Manning and that was more than two decades ago.
So the first overall pick isn’t the slam dunk that you would think it is.
Also need to look at how many guys are successful with their second and third teams right now. Specifically look at Flacco, Rodgers, Geno and Darnold lol. Maybe we are lacking in talent because we blow a ton of draft capital on a QB every couple years.
I think we are in halfway decent shape on offense but have some gaping holes, too.
It’s way more important to come away with a franchise player than to play pin the tail on the QB. If Mendoza or Moore is that guy, do it. If the argument includes some fodder about the QB position and taking chances because you “have to” or something, it’s a tell that the guy’s resume doesn’t stand on its own.
Hey we got it right in 2013!!! 🥲
Would definitely rather win but I understand those that don’t. This QB class probably will only have 2 *maybe* 3 good prospects and honestly I think Mendoza is the only home run.
If losing is a necessary condition to your success, then you were never good in the first place. The NFL shouldn’t reward tanking either. Tanking isn’t a smart plan, it literally relies on a ton of luck. Whereas developing players and building a winner takes skill(and luck).
Over the long haul, do you trust a FO that can only draft good players 1OA, or a FO that focuses on getting the best talent they can and then developing them?
I mean the jets are still going to be the worst team in the league if we are being honest. Yes we won a game. There are still more we can lose
2019 might be a late change the way Danny is looking lol
I understand the desire to tank this season to get a better draft pick but I’m never going to root for the Jets to go 0-17. I’m always going to root for at least one win even if it slightly affects our draft chances.
The amount this fan base could not handle doing the Trubisky to Mahomes gap lol
Jared Goff is better than Dak.
Wake me up when Dak gets to a SB and garners a trade that puts the team on another level to win it all.
Also worth noting that many of these guys aren’t #1 overall picks.
There hasn’t been a single bust since Andrew Luck at #1 overall except for Jameis Winston.
Had to trade up to get Daronld
Missed out on Matt Ryan and had to take gholston
Missed out on Nick Bosa for Quinnen
Miss out on lucrative trade down scenarios.
A team like the Pats got Drake Maye due to us beating them late in the year
In years of lost seasons and seasons like this one where we are out of it and stink after 5 games I do not care about the moral victories. Each year the Jets do the same thing, are horrible and stink most of the year but cobble together a few wins late to botch draft position.
It’s always nice to win on game day.
The quarterback is only as good as the system he is in. If the Jets get within the top five in the draft then I would say trade away for draft capital. Fields is not the answer. However, let’s see what he can do the rest of the way in this system with a rookie offensive coordinator.
Goff>Dak
Lawrence is now mid. Same as Kyler
But 2015 ooof
Always trade the No. 1 overall pick is a hill I’ll die on. If you have the No. 1 overall pick, it almost certainly means your entire roster is bad. So you need multiple upgrades, more depth. I.e. you need more picks, not one “generational qb”. There are more average QBs with SB wins and plenty of great QBs with none. Jets need upgrades at multiple positions on both sides of the ball to win.
Damn 2013-15 got some dog shit QBs.
Fuck draft position. Need some wins to establish a culture and get the players to buy in.
All I see is that you have a 25% chance to hit, and an 80% chance they’ll be worth keeping.
Was this post supposed to make me not want the 1st pick? Seems on that the 1st pick is clearly where the more talented guys are…
Caleb is better than Daniels and is completely subjective not even 2 years into their careers. Bryce young has been better this season and last season than Stroud.
Reminds me of a few years ago when the fanbase went NUTS that we lost out on Trevor Lawrence
Also keep in mind they’ll ruin whoever they pick anyway.
You either have your guy, or you don’t. Until you have that guy, you’re looking for your guy. And when you have the #1 pick, you get to pick whoever you want (in that draft) to be your guy.
Yesterday’s win was a feel good moment for a few hours. Nobody will care about this meaningless win if the team is in QB hell in two years because they didn’t draft high enough in 2026.
The #1 pick guarantees you exactly 0 wins. What it does guarantee you is choice, which is powerful and important.
I didn’t know that Dak Prescott was better than Jared Goff
Good lord so many bad QBs on that list
SMH, this past week at least, I drain my whiskey glass in celebration. The future will sort itself when it comes. The past can’t be changed, but our view can change.
The best thing a team can do is to win their first games. It teaches the younger players what they have to do to achieve the win. It the same way for a young coaching staff, its a real skill that is learnt thru much suffering.
Man it’s sad we drafted the best QB in the draft on 2013 yet we also kicked off the longest playoff drought in major league sports close tot he same time lol
The good news is we still own the #1 pick at this moment.
2019 should be daniel jones as best.
I’m going to complain about draft now—- and after the draft also.
I would agree
Dak Prescott over Jared Goff?
This post is actually brain dead. On average, about 12 QBs are taken in each draft. According to this chart, the best QB of the draft was also the first QB off the board in 4 of the last 12 drafts. Mind you, the moron who made this thinks that Dak is better than Goff, which he most certainly is not. They also have Stroud as better than Young and Jayden as better than Caleb, both of which are far too early to call and highly debatable. The list also **very** conveniently cuts off at 2013 because just before that there was a string of like five straight years of the best QB also being the first QB drafted.
In short, the first QB taken in each draft historically has **at least** a 50% chance of becoming the best QB of their draft class. If there was no correlation between draft pick and future success (a take that is ridiculous in the first place) then you would expect that percentage to be around 8%, or 1 in 12. So yes, we are fucking ourselves by winning games.
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2023 is debatable now imo.
Statistically taking a QB #1 overall is more likely to hit than at any other spot.
wow… 2015 was a real stinker, huh?
Best QB from 2024 is still TBD.
And even then, Caleb and Young were obvious #1 picks. There’s no QB like that this year and you have 4 that could realistically go #1 overall, so this would be an ideal year to have a higher pick and go get your guy.
Woody going to kill any qb anyways…. SELL THE TEAM
So you’re saying out of the last 10 years the number one draft pick has had the best qb 40 percent of the time. That’s pretty good odds to get a good qb
How’d they rate Trevor Lawrence above Zach?
/s
For those of you keeping count, the last quarterback that was drafted first overall and won a Super Bowl was Matthew Stafford, who was drafted in 2009. And he didn’t even win a Super Bowl for his original team that drafted him.
The last quarterback to be drafted first overall and win a Super Bowl for the team that drafted him… Yeah… I know I know technically the chargers drafted him… Got it… Was Eli Manning and that was more than two decades ago.
So the first overall pick isn’t the slam dunk that you would think it is.
Also need to look at how many guys are successful with their second and third teams right now. Specifically look at Flacco, Rodgers, Geno and Darnold lol. Maybe we are lacking in talent because we blow a ton of draft capital on a QB every couple years.
I think we are in halfway decent shape on offense but have some gaping holes, too.
It’s way more important to come away with a franchise player than to play pin the tail on the QB. If Mendoza or Moore is that guy, do it. If the argument includes some fodder about the QB position and taking chances because you “have to” or something, it’s a tell that the guy’s resume doesn’t stand on its own.
Hey we got it right in 2013!!! 🥲
Would definitely rather win but I understand those that don’t. This QB class probably will only have 2 *maybe* 3 good prospects and honestly I think Mendoza is the only home run.
If losing is a necessary condition to your success, then you were never good in the first place. The NFL shouldn’t reward tanking either. Tanking isn’t a smart plan, it literally relies on a ton of luck. Whereas developing players and building a winner takes skill(and luck).
Over the long haul, do you trust a FO that can only draft good players 1OA, or a FO that focuses on getting the best talent they can and then developing them?
I mean the jets are still going to be the worst team in the league if we are being honest. Yes we won a game. There are still more we can lose
2019 might be a late change the way Danny is looking lol
I understand the desire to tank this season to get a better draft pick but I’m never going to root for the Jets to go 0-17. I’m always going to root for at least one win even if it slightly affects our draft chances.
The amount this fan base could not handle doing the Trubisky to Mahomes gap lol
Jared Goff is better than Dak.
Wake me up when Dak gets to a SB and garners a trade that puts the team on another level to win it all.
Also worth noting that many of these guys aren’t #1 overall picks.
There hasn’t been a single bust since Andrew Luck at #1 overall except for Jameis Winston.
Had to trade up to get Daronld
Missed out on Matt Ryan and had to take gholston
Missed out on Nick Bosa for Quinnen
Miss out on lucrative trade down scenarios.
A team like the Pats got Drake Maye due to us beating them late in the year
In years of lost seasons and seasons like this one where we are out of it and stink after 5 games I do not care about the moral victories. Each year the Jets do the same thing, are horrible and stink most of the year but cobble together a few wins late to botch draft position.
It’s always nice to win on game day.
The quarterback is only as good as the system he is in. If the Jets get within the top five in the draft then I would say trade away for draft capital. Fields is not the answer. However, let’s see what he can do the rest of the way in this system with a rookie offensive coordinator.
Goff>Dak
Lawrence is now mid. Same as Kyler
But 2015 ooof
Always trade the No. 1 overall pick is a hill I’ll die on. If you have the No. 1 overall pick, it almost certainly means your entire roster is bad. So you need multiple upgrades, more depth. I.e. you need more picks, not one “generational qb”. There are more average QBs with SB wins and plenty of great QBs with none. Jets need upgrades at multiple positions on both sides of the ball to win.
Damn 2013-15 got some dog shit QBs.
Fuck draft position. Need some wins to establish a culture and get the players to buy in.
All I see is that you have a 25% chance to hit, and an 80% chance they’ll be worth keeping.
Was this post supposed to make me not want the 1st pick? Seems on that the 1st pick is clearly where the more talented guys are…
Caleb is better than Daniels and is completely subjective not even 2 years into their careers. Bryce young has been better this season and last season than Stroud.
Reminds me of a few years ago when the fanbase went NUTS that we lost out on Trevor Lawrence
Also keep in mind they’ll ruin whoever they pick anyway.
You either have your guy, or you don’t. Until you have that guy, you’re looking for your guy. And when you have the #1 pick, you get to pick whoever you want (in that draft) to be your guy.
Yesterday’s win was a feel good moment for a few hours. Nobody will care about this meaningless win if the team is in QB hell in two years because they didn’t draft high enough in 2026.
The #1 pick guarantees you exactly 0 wins. What it does guarantee you is choice, which is powerful and important.
I didn’t know that Dak Prescott was better than Jared Goff
Good lord so many bad QBs on that list
SMH, this past week at least, I drain my whiskey glass in celebration. The future will sort itself when it comes. The past can’t be changed, but our view can change.
The best thing a team can do is to win their first games. It teaches the younger players what they have to do to achieve the win. It the same way for a young coaching staff, its a real skill that is learnt thru much suffering.
Man it’s sad we drafted the best QB in the draft on 2013 yet we also kicked off the longest playoff drought in major league sports close tot he same time lol
The good news is we still own the #1 pick at this moment.
2019 should be daniel jones as best.
I’m going to complain about draft now—- and after the draft also.
I would agree
Dak Prescott over Jared Goff?
This post is actually brain dead. On average, about 12 QBs are taken in each draft. According to this chart, the best QB of the draft was also the first QB off the board in 4 of the last 12 drafts. Mind you, the moron who made this thinks that Dak is better than Goff, which he most certainly is not. They also have Stroud as better than Young and Jayden as better than Caleb, both of which are far too early to call and highly debatable. The list also **very** conveniently cuts off at 2013 because just before that there was a string of like five straight years of the best QB also being the first QB drafted.
In short, the first QB taken in each draft historically has **at least** a 50% chance of becoming the best QB of their draft class. If there was no correlation between draft pick and future success (a take that is ridiculous in the first place) then you would expect that percentage to be around 8%, or 1 in 12. So yes, we are fucking ourselves by winning games.