“What a wonderful problem”: The Miami Heat Offense Is Very Good and Tyler Herro Isn’t Even Back Yet
But I want to start surprisingly with the Miami Heat are going to be good offensively. Hell yeah. Norman Powell. If they’re good offensively, then I know they’re going to be good because I know they’re going to be good defensively. They’re always good defensively. When do we get to say like it’s only three games, so like h how much of a sample size do we need to say, okay, the Heat are going to play fast and they’re going to be able to score? No, but obviously they’re going to play fast. Like I don’t know if any of that stuff works in the playoffs. Uh, but obviously they’re going to be a fun team to watch offensively. I think we can state that after three games because they look totally different offensively. This is without Tyler Herro and they’ve they’ve changed. It’s not that the ball’s going in. They’re changing the way that they’re doing things. And Norman Powell’s really good. They don’t call any plays. Did you hear that after like I think it was after the the second game where they won in Memphis and and they said Span call any plays. They they just they just run up and down the court against Orlando. They played the fastest game I’ve ever seen them play. Then they scored a buck 40 against at Memphis. They scored a buck 40 yesterday. Uh they continued with that pace even with the Knicks a really good defensive team slowing them down. And right now they’re running on average 22 on ball picks per 100 possess possessions. The all-time record for the fewest in a season is 37.9. That’s just showing the lack of plays right now where they are just getting the ball, pushing it up the court. Whether it’s Haime Hakez doing it with the bench unit, whether it’s DaVon Mitchell on in the starting unit, they are pushing the ball and it’s leading to all sorts of open shots for Simone Fonteio amongst others. You guys are overthinking this one, pal. Big screens. What are you talking Derry Rosier’s no longer here and they’re 2 and 0. We we got him away. The franchise has been fumigated and we’re undefeated since he’s gone. The last time they beat the Knicks was when Terry Rosier had a I believe heat high 34 points in that game at the end of the 2024 season under the jail. Yes, let’s say that. Can we? When Bam Adabio is saying, “Oh, we all stand behind Terry. He’s our brother.” You got to say that, I guess. But he was dead wood, dead weight on the end of the bench. They were dying to get rid of this guy. So, the FBI got rid of them. Got rid of him for them. You know what? I’m glad you mentioned that. You’re right. They have to say that. I guess like we support him. He’s our brother. But here’s the thing. My my first thought when I heard Bam say that. And granted, it doesn’t appear to be that he was doing anything with rigging games with the Heat. It appears to be something that happened with the Hornets. But do you have to support him? And the reason that I say that is because if he’s rigging games, why would you support him? Like that’s it’s the worst thing you could do if you’re a teammate. I So like that kind of bothered me when they said and you know what the same thing with the Blazers too is oh we support him. We love him. Well, hold on a second. If he’s rigging games for you to lose, why would you support this person? Well, Chanty Bilips wasn’t rigging games or basketball games. It’s alleged that he was rigging poker games. Well, and he was passing along information as far as who they’re going to play not play because they’re tanking. Co co-conspirator number eight did. Yeah. We don’t know if that was Chanty Bilips. Although who the hell was it if it wasn’t Chanty Bill? No, it was. But in Roier’s case, like why would you support someone who is actively trying to hurt the thing that you’re making a living? Why does Cody say you have to say that? You don’t have to actually say that. I I think it’s what you say if you’re a teammate whose teammate has not been found guilty yet. I mean, the evidence is incriminating. Okay, I’m not going to say Terry Rosier is guilty, put him in jail, but the evidence is incriminating. 30 unders on prop bets. 30. And all 30 of them hit uh in a game where he was not on the injury list and then leaves with a mysterious ailment 9 minutes. That’s incriminal. Did he have six was the was the bail uh $6 million for Terry Rosier? seemed impossibly high for what it is that we were talking about. Too low. Uh $6 million as a a bail. I I don’t know if you can look up for me other comps on that cuz when I heard that I’m like, can that be right? It was a $10 million bond. He had to put up his $6 million home in Florida as a result. that that’s part of why obviously these guys are supporting him because forget the fact that it was just he’s accused of one game of this, right? So if if you’re the guys and you haven’t been a part of that where you’re accused of of him throwing any of your games, you can look at your, you know, brother who you’ve played with. That’s why I said, it doesn’t seem to be with the Heat, right? And then on top of that, you’re looking at a guy who was brought in in shackles and taken from the the flight. It it it’s a really different experience than someone who was down. Was he taken off the plane? I I not off the plane, I don’t believe. No, it was in it was in Orlando, but they Look, there are some politics involved here. Congress summoning Adam Silver over this. There are politics involved in what it is that’s happening. Adam Silver now has to go and explain some things to to Congress. And there are some optics involved. There’s next to nothing. I will say this again, once you’re weaponizing uh federal institutions uh for political gain, as is happening all over the place now, and you can get some black millionaires in shackles, you’re going to do that. But one of the things that is interesting to me here, we we glanced uh over this last week, how little power the NBA investigators actually have. Did you guys see this Eastern Michigan story? And I don’t expect you to have seen it. And it’s a little difficult for me to read my notes with these bad bunny glasses. So, Greg, you up on Eastern Michigan? You’ll forgive me for a second as I find uh this story because I know one player on the roster. There was something funny in the Eastern Michigan stories in that um there are some accusations because this is easier to do in college and it’s really dangerous in college because obviously in college uh you can have players who need money. Terry Rosier ostensibly wouldn’t need money when he’s got a 25$26 million contract. So, if you’re going to buy a player for things of these purposes and have him risk the $26 million federal jail time and everything else, it’s harder to get to pro players. But the NCAA went and tried to interview the Eastern Michigan players and people near them, and they were all like, “Yeah, not not going to talk to you. Don’t need to talk to you. You don’t have any real power. We’re going to threaten you by taking away your eligibility.” Well, they don’t have any eligibility left. So, there’s literally nothing. the NCAA can do. It’s just interesting to see that there’s also nothing the NBA can do because if you’re going around Terry Rosier’s family and friends, they’re not going to talk to you. They they’ve got to they’ve got to talk to the FBI. They might not talk to the FBI either, but when when federal power is being the thing that you’re hit over the head with or just NBA investigator X, the the NBA investigation is going to be incomplete because that nobody needs to cooperate with that. Yeah, but I’m the thing that I’m mad about and I think Heat fans are as well. How could the NBA not disclose any of this to the other team, specifically a team that then trades for this player and gives up a first round pick? Like I like I don’t even Do the Hornets have a responsibility to have told the Heat? I don’t know. I can go either way on that one. But the NBA the NBA doesn’t let another team know that we’re investigating and we we hit a roadblock, you know, so it’s kind of open. We can’t do anything about it. But this player may be investigated by the FBI and the Heat wind up having to give up a first round pick. Now granted, they gave up Kyle Lowry. I mean, that’s a good day no matter what. But they still gave up a first round pick. But Z, here’s the thing. So the NBA is going to tell the Heat, “Hey, by the way, there’s a little bit of an issue. We had a red flag come up with one of the gambling partners that says that Terry Rosier may have been allegedly fixing this game.” That’s right. and that so you’re going to just uncover an entire massive investigation to the Heat to another team when you have it siloed with I know but you have it siloed there and now all of a sudden you’re going to let another team know and then that team’s going to tell another team and then blah blah but they didn’t actually clear this player like like like there’s an open essentially they took out they took him out of the season he was done with a fake injury that’s debatable that’s what Winhor says that this the information on this is somewhat cloudy because Shams reported the NBA cleared him and the NBA had not cleared him and so there are some things here that are still a little bit murky, but can we talk about the product on the court for a second? Oh, it’s a good product. Is Tyler Hero going to foul this up because you’re doing the Terry Rosier thing. Is Tyler Hero going to make this better? It’s going to be something worth watching because it’s inescapable how good they look without Tyler Hero offensively. And he is going to he is going to come back and and there’s been some questions for the entire time that he’s been here about how good he can be, how good he can be at the end of games. He can get his own shot at the end of games. I still think the Heat are going to have trouble at the end of close games playing this way. That’s what it is though. Like that that right there is where Tyler Hero is going to help. We saw it at the end of the game in Orlando where they really couldn’t score the last few minutes. And we saw it for a small stretch last night as well. So having an extra guy who could create and make junk shots when the defense is tied up, that that’s where he’s going to help. What what a wonderful problem for the best coach in the NBA to have is to integrate his allstar player into what’s already good. But he’s he’s ball dominant and they need DaVon Mitchell’s defense in the starting lineup. The other thing too is this offense has worked because there’s been no balls stopper, right? And in years past, you had Jimmy who’s a ball stopper. You have different players who Tyler Herro also Jimmy and Tyler trying to share one ball and you’re looking and saying, “All right, can Tyler Herro come in and actually buy into what the offense is that they want to run or is he going to be like, “Nope, I’m back as my all-star self. Give me the ball. I’m going to shoot 20.” But that’s why he can contribute because offensively like when they were playing with pace last year at the very beginning of the season, he was a huge contributor to that. It was only when Jimmy started taking the ball and dominating it the way that he did and they needed to build the offense around that. Haime Hawkins Jr. another perfect example. Everybody well everybody looked at him as like another version of Jimmy Butler that was going to operate from the high post and was going to just use different post moves. No, he’s better in this free flowing offense. Tyler Herro will be the same way, but they had to build an offense around Jimmy Butler before. Tyler seems like someone who, if willing to just be a piece of it and get his the way Norman Powell has, he’ll be a greater piece of this offense. Stop being a homer, bro. Haimey Hakez uh had some trouble uh last year. Uh faded over the stretch, kind of vanished. It didn’t do much in the way of improving. Uh I still have unfortunately the text string that uh Jeremy started with an assortment of people that is that says Haimei Hakez is the next Jimmy Butler. That was the name of the group chat until I change it to Koar is the next Victor Wimyama. Yeah. Uh but Haimei Hakez has been very good. This this is an interesting question for later. It’s not the question for now three games in. But once Tyler Herro is in the Harlo songs, Jack Harlo songs, and he is uh the all-star, can he even go back to being six-man guy? Can he even go back to being the role that he was so good at when uh when he was good enough to be sixman of the year? Is that something once you’ve been an all-star, do you come back, you miss three games, and you’re like, “You guys miss me?” And they’re like, “No, not so much.” Like, I’m the man, right? And they’re like, “His time is coming.” It’s a grim reaper meme. We left the uh Terry Rosier door behind us.
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37 comments
Use allegedly first. Plus the informant is allegedly someone who already got dealt with by the NBA β¦ allegedly
The Heat will be good defensively until Tyler Herro comes back. His shot selection and defense are horrific.
herro on the bench n lets wait 20games
delusion at it's finest
Yall Herro haters make no sense. Who would we even realistically get for Herro that can match his productivity?
If we bring back Oladipo, to go along with Mitchell, Wigs, Bam, and Ware our defense would be number 1.
" its only one game "……." its ok for hes teammates to support him "………!!!!
wtf are people on this show talking about ?????!!!!
Dan has completely lost the plot !!!!
WTF !!!!
Tyler's going to mess this up. Quit the bias fandom. He needs the ball to contribute. Trade him!!
lol this podcast is nothing but homerism anymore man. No pushback on this nonsense. The Heat are not good
not to be simply a Herro apologist but has he not done everything theyβve asked of him. be a 6 man be a starter be a number 1 option have a quicker release take better shots get better around the rim be a pg be a rebounder. sure heβs not always been the best player particularly defensively and being able to be singled out in playoffs has hurt him but if they want him to fit a style i donβt take him to be a selfish or stubborn player
people canβt even support their team with people calling them delusional π€£ sick world we live in and tyler will cook in this offense real hoopers know
They've played 3 games. 3.
The built this team specifically for Tyler Herro. Iβm not worried, people keep hating and Tyler keeps improving. Keep motivating him
Herro is a liability on defense thats why theyre winning now. I would trade herro and a 1st for morant since Memphis is tanking
Havenβt we been here before? This team especially this backcourt with Norm is better suited to Tyler playing off ball like he did to begin last season on fire before Jimmy trade.
This is the fan base in basketball that legitimately thinks their team is better without their best offensive player.
Incredible how shit Danβs opinion is
Yall herro haters are some trash. Jovic got an extension and he hasn't done squat
I donβt see where Tyler has any say in the matter . the teams doing great come off the bench . Doing bad change things up . Bottom line they chose not to extend him . So unless he lost his joy like someone else . He needs to come back and do whatever he needs to do to help the team win . Heβs not Jimmy and they traded him to find his joy . Theyβll do the same with Tyler . Play Ball as needed or play somewhere else.
There's not a single NBA coach that would start Davion over a healthy Tyler. Y'all hate him that much?
Herro initiates the quickness in Miami …
I'm dying the FBI got rid of himπ let's go heat
This topic is so tired
Bring back Beasley….and we'd be top 2….YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
Sports fully embraced gambling. Why is anyone remotely surprised that players are taking full advantage of something they can control.
You can totally support ppl. They didn't really do a terrible crime. But you can give them support while saying they deserve the actions of theyre consequences
We are back baby!
The heat have only won 2 games? They
are 1,000,000 miles from back.
Lmao, the Tyler hate is so forced, why are we acting like he won't fit this offense
Ahhh, Dan blaming politics for this because he doesn't like the current administration, what a surprise. News flash, both parties are crooked and this has nothing to do with politics, they were clearly doing wrong.
Woke ass podcast π
Not sure how the show so popular. This show is so woke and one-sided.
This is my concern
This dude saying why Bam and the team has his back SMFH, MFER that's their brother there friend teammate.. Basically he's apart of the black culture and we support our brother he's one of ours pussy boy
Yes!!! Herro is good some times, but he is awful a lot of the time.
Lebatard is one of the smartest dumbasses on radio, and thatβs saying a lot.
Miami better w out herro. Cause herro don't play defense