Live reaction to the Denver Broncos trade-deadline decisions: Does Bo Nix get another weapon?
On today’s DMV Broncos podcast, we are breaking down the latest rumors Steven that are going on. Plus, we’re hearing from Feisty Sean and I might just hear him on this cold open right now. Fun big show leading up to the trade deadline starting now. [Music] [Applause] [Music] The trade deadline is 2 hours away and we are going to lead you up to it. If the Broncos make a move, we’ll actually lead you through it to break down everything that’s going on specifically with the Denver Broncos. But we are going to look around the NFL because there are some big trades going on. Plus, we’re going to hear from Spicy Shawn. We finally got Spicy Sean, by the way. And uh what? Name’s Ryan. Name’s Ryan, names Henry, name Zack. We got Dion behind the camera. We are here on the DMV Broncos podcast presented by Bet365. Use that code DMVR365. When you sign up, place a $5 bet after depositing $10, you can get $200 in bonus bets, win or lose. And we are live from the Toyota Lounge driven by your local Front Range Toyota stores. Fellas, how we doing on this Taco Tuesday, this trade deadline Tuesday? And uh a lot of news going on and two days away from a Broncos game. I just want so badly to just start ringing this bell because it means that the Broncos have made a trade. Um I was like, you know, I was in a nice position where I’m like, hey, whatever happens happens. Like I’m happy. But now I’m like fiending. Like it’s because of the little reports that have trickled out today. Um tying the Broncos. So maybe making a big move. Like not even a move. Like then I just started being like, “All right, now I need it.” Like tap me in. I need it in my veins. Fire me up. You know who you remind me of? Uh, who? Sean Payton. Oh, that’s always once again. Payton. Pton. Pton. Payton. Um, you guys will all understand that reference later in the show if you don’t already. I want to use that on everyone and just Henry’s doesn’t work. I can I can even call Dion like Smitty. Smitty Smitty. Could you go like Yeah, you’re right. Ch. Nobody makes that mistake. That’s a little too close to something else. Um, and you you remind me of Sean because that’s that’s how Sean operates, isn’t it? Is like, you know what, we’re just going to play it cool and then other teams start making moves and then he feels left out and then he wants to make the big time move and then so the Broncos do make the big time move. We’ve seen that many times, not necessarily with trades, but we’ve seen it in free agency and the Broncos have made a trade in four straight years. However, the difference is the Broncos have always been sellers, at least slightly sellers, uh, at the deadline. Haven’t been buyers with Shawn Peyton. But guys, also, the Broncos have never been in a position where it’s like they are clear buyers at the trade deadline. Last year, they were five and four. It’s like, okay, coming off a brutal beatdown. Couldn’t imagine being five and four. Yeah, exactly. And coming off a brutal beatd down by the Ravens. The trade deadline was 2 days later, too. So, it’s like, man, maybe the Broncos truly aren’t buyers. in contenders this year. Nothing indicates that about right now because the Broncos are definitely buyers right now. And we got another big trade coming down the line right now. Not with the Broncos. We’re going to break all of this down, but let’s just Henry, let’s dive into this one right now. The Dallas Cowboys have done what Jerry Jones said they wanted to do since they traded Michael Parsons. Get better in the run game. They’re trading for Quinn Williams. So, the Jets are just selling everything because they already moved Sask Gardner. Okay. The Broncos are going to make some big move today. They’re going to do it. Like, I think that it could not be more clear in terms of like deadline blurriness. This is as clear as it gets that they’re really trying to with all the buzz everywhere. And I think the door is open across the board. Jets, Williams is so I didn’t think the Jets would be willing to trade Garrett Wilson. I don’t think they were willing to trade Garrett Wilson. But when you trade Sauce Gardner, Yeah. when somebody says like, “Hey, we’ll give you like two first round picks and like a decent receiver for your quarterback who’s been like me better this year than he was last couple years but was a star before that.” Like you you pull the trigger there and it opens the door for you to make a move like Quinnon Williams. Also to make a move like Garrett Wilson. If we were doing the NYNY Jets podcast yesterday and we were saying like, “All right, we’re sellers at the deadline.” Uh like Who’s on the lifeboat? Yeah. My number one person on the lifeboat would have been Quinnon Williams. Yeah. And number two probably would have been Sauce. There is now there’s no more boat. The boat is gone. Here’s here’s the the only and and Henry, I I do see what you’re saying. My only push back would be what the Jets are doing is clearly tearing everything down to get a quarterback next year. Um and to build around a quarterback. if I want one piece outside of an offensive line, which you just don’t really have. They need to build that. I I want a receiver for him. I don’t need a corner for him. I don’t need a defensive lineman for him. So, in terms of viewing it through that perspective, Garrett Wilson probably is the only one that’s left on this sinking lifeboat right now. And maybe they do trade him. I’m not saying that that won’t happen, but that would be my only push back here is you would want a great receiver for him potentially. You’re still they’re not going to give him to you for cheap, but I think the same thing might be happen in Jacksonville. Not not the same thing, but they trade for Jacobe Meyers from the Raiders. Now all of a sudden they have an extra receiver. Yeah. Could the door be open to trade Brian Thomas? I think that I came into today hoping for a trade and I was like, I don’t think they’re going to trade Brian Thomas. I don’t think the Jets are going to trade Garrett Wilson, but those are kind of a couple of the names that were in like our top three, four to have both of them make moves that they made. I think both those trades have become more likely today. Well, and Ryan, the the entire speculation was uh from from you and following the Jags is they want Travis Hunter to be their number one receiver. So, that’s why you would move Brian Thomas. Um, and the Jags just got a great number two receiver with Jacobe Meyers. So, you can promote Travis Hunter to being the one. Obviously, when he’s healthy, he’s going to miss at least three more games. Right now, we’ve got another trade. Uhoh. The Cubs have traded Andrew Kitridge to the Orioles for cash. No, we don’t care about baseball. Good rule. Good rule. No baseball trades. It actually that one is what makes me think like, okay, Brian Thomas might actually be available because Jacobe Myers is good. He’s just been with the Raiders right now. And shout out to the Raiders for getting worse before playing the Broncos in two days right now. Yeah. I just want to take a moment to like soak this in right now. I have the the heart rate right now that I have during the draft. It’s the only other time I’ve ever felt this since we started this show. It’s like draft night. I get like fired up and I’m like, “All right.” Like looking at my phone, seeing if anything’s happening. We’ve never since we’ve been doing this show, Zach, we have never felt this at the trade deadline. No, it’s it’s sellers. It’s who are the Broncos going to trade? How sad is this day going to be? Obviously, we had it with Von Miller about 5 years ago. Um last year it was Baron Browning. Not as sad, but it’s it’s you’re you’re right, Ryan. The excitement of who are the Broncos going to get. Is it going to be a move that takes him over the edge? You have Jordan Schultz report that uh two teams are on his radar to make a holy [ __ ] move. One of them is still Oh, holy crap. Thank you. Uh is the Seattle Seahawks. The other one is the Denver Broncos. The Seattle Seahawks made a trade. Wouldn’t say it was a holy crap one. So that leaves one team left according to Jordan Schultz. You think Rashid Chah was a holy crap? Okay. No, I thought I thought that’s what you were questioning. No, I was just thinking about it for a second, but no, it’s not even close. No, that’s But maybe he was thinking like, all right, the Seahawks or the Broncos are going to get Wadd and so that one of them is going to make a a holy crap move and once this once the Seahawks got shahed that it’s like, okay, one team left in that race. Totally. Totally. And that that’s a great way to view it from a Broncos perspective. I think also since we’re going to be here for a couple hours, uh getting things like this from Brandon and Jooku to the Broncos, can’t do that. You are the worst. Brandon bad. But he’s like saying that’s what he wants. I think excitedly then then we love you just have to you have to put that I want. Make it clear we’re not doing this. Let me ask you guys right now. By the way, the Jets got a first back for Quinn Williams. They have four first round picks next year. Maybe they make a five by trading Garrett Wilson somewhere. Let me ask you guys this and let me also ask the chat this. Ryan, I already know your answer. I’ll still let you answer, but I want Henry’s answer right now. Do you guys want the Broncos to make a move today? And if so, what type of move? Do you want it for a backup? Do you want it for a fringe starter? Do you want it for an absolute superstar? Do you want the Broncos to make a move? Let us know in the Toyota chat and below, Henry. The only thing that makes a difference is like a big move. Yep. Cuz like you don’t need a backup. What would you need a backup at? Backup guard. Guess what? Calvin Throckmorton knows the system and he’s going to be better than whatever backup guard you go and get. Um, outside of that, you obviously don’t need a backup receiver. Your tight ends, again, backup tight end is no better than Atkins or Troutman. There’s no need for a backup in terms of like a fringe starter, like a minor upgrade over Adam Troutman as your inline tight end. Like, that doesn’t really move the needle. I don’t even know who that would be. I I think the only thing that would make any sense is to go get somebody who changes your ceiling. like the ide the idea of going and trading like a fourth round pick or a third round pick for somebody, it just it doesn’t really change anything for you. You have you have somebody worth a third or fourth round pick at every position on your roster. That doesn’t that doesn’t raise you at all. So, it has to be a splash in order for it to make any sense at all. But do you want them to make that? Oh, of like you’re seven and two. You’d be crazy not to make that move. Like like if you’re not out there Broncos crazy in two hours if they don’t make a trade. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I think like you look at what the Colts did. Why did the Colts decide to give up multiple first round picks? Because they are tied for the first place in the AFC in a year where the AFC is very much down. Like this is your opportunity. This is your window. And if you get somebody who’s also going to stick around for a few years, you know, we talk we love Jaylen Wadd on this show. You you trade for him. He’s got three and a half years left. He has the rest of this year on his contract. He’s got three more. He’s going to be just as productive as that first round pick. So, don’t trade the first round pick for a guy you’re going to lose at the end of the year, but that’s not a thing that happens in the first place anyway, so I’m not worried about it. And Jaylen Wadd is half the price of the top of the market wide receiver right now. I know Henry said that yesterday, like $20 million a year. And someone was like, “You’re calling that cheap?” Yeah. It is 70 million over three and a half years. 10 this year, 20220. And like it’s set up a little bit differently where it’s going to feel bigger at the end, but that’s why you can fit him in pretty easily right now. No, no. Just saying trade alert in the chat. No saying trade alert. You’re gonna kill my guy, Zach. And I just can’t have that. Next, next person who does it, we’re putting in timeout. Okay, Dion. Yeah, cool. You better have confirmed sources. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Um, thanks for looking out for me. Right. To answer, we’re not doing this. To answer your question, um, it’s only a like a a blockbuster. It’s only a blockbuster in my opinion. Even uh Rasheed Shahed would have just been like, “Okay, totally feels a little redundant.” Like, I guess this is fun. He’s probably going to catch two to three long touchdowns the rest of the year. Like, that’s cool. Um, this to me has to be a a mountain mover. And it it’s also why I’m okay if the Broncos end up not making any moves. And I’m different from Henry on that one cuz I’m like, “Hey, look, I think that you’re banging down doors right now trying to say like, what do you need for this guy? What do you need for that guy? What do you need for this guy?” And if it comes back like, “Hey, we just didn’t have the right deal in place for us.” Like, I don’t know, maybe the the Dolphins up the price. They’re like, “Look, you guys are in an arms race. Like, we actually want two first round picks for Waddle.” Like, okay, well, now back off. Like, and so you’re swinging for the fences, but some you don’t always hit when you do that. Yeah. And I I don’t need a trade today. The Broncos are in such a good position. The fact that Ryan, your heart rate’s so up because you think the Broncos can make a blockbuster move to to try to take their ceiling up as Henry says. Um, but also the Broncos don’t have to make a move to get over the top right now. And they’re in such a good spot. And why they don’t have to make a move. Yes, you are in a championship window and that is when you make moves. But guys, the Broncos aren’t at the end of a championship window. um in two or 3 years, maybe that’s when you say, “Okay, you got to push over the edge right now to do it before Bo Knicks deal kicks in.” Broncos aren’t in that spot right now. So, I I agree with you, Ryan, that I think in two hours, I’m going to be saying whatever the Broncos do is is is good. Um because I think so, too. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Um because uh look at how the Bronx have drafted, too. Look what they’ve turned their draft picks into as well. And you guys know I love Jaylen Wadd, so I’d be dancing around like a penguin if they get him uh today. Let’s continue to break down moves here. If we make that move, I’ll just waddle around in circles around the set for five straight minutes. It’d be terrible for the audio people, but like I think everybody watching on YouTube would enjoy it. I don’t think I’ve ever tried walking like that. Might might be like a little bit of an oblique workout at a certain point. Yeah, it really would. Legs close, arms close. It’s Waddle and it’s Garrett Wilson. And is it kind of just Brian Thomas? Okay. Those are kind of like the three guys where Yeah. There’s a part of me that thinks like after seeing the Sauce Gardner trade, could there be other names that we have never even considered that actually are available or receiver? Receiver in particular, but who knows? 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Huge key lime pie. Yeah. I love that we each have a pie to ours. That’s exactly. Maybe we should stick to yours. Sure. Sure. Just break into that. Save one for the people. It is one per person. One per person coming out Friday. We get yours while supplies last. Limited one per customer. That’s how uh precious and valuable these are. Chop that baby up. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think we’re I think we’re cooking here. Okay. Really aggressive uh slice size there. Yeah. Oh, you want it bigger? I figured you need a little sampler, you know. Oh, teamwork. Look at that. Look at that. All right. I can’t wait for you. No. Get once in a lifetime opportunity to be the first person to try this. Yeah. Mhm. Wow. It really does taste like key lime pie. And that’s a huge dub for me. Great crust. You actually have to try this. Like this is one of those things that you probably need to try before you before you pass away. Oh. Hey. Yeah. Uh get to your nearest Taco Bell on Friday. It might be the only chance you have to get it because these bad boys are going to go quick. Breaking news. The Taco Bell Mountain Dew Baja Blast Pie. It is. That does hit. Friday. I can’t wait. Friday it’s out. I’m telling you that was actually really good. Yeah. Like especially because M Baja Blast now has like a cult following. Like if you love that, you’re going to love it. It’s very true. Yeah. Tell us the Baja. Get you that electric electric jolt, too. Um All right, Ryan. So, do we have an arms race going on in the NFL with these trades being made? I think we’re on the verge of an arms race. Um, but I think the Colts making the first move to me is a big time like flag for the Broncos. Like, okay, we got to go. Because I think the Colts and the Broncos are in a similar category. Yes. Which is like new faces in the contender uh at the contender table. Really good, but nobody believes it. Exactly. And so the Colts are saying like, “Okay, like watch this. We’re going to get even stronger.” And I think the Broncos should take a similar approach. Um, again, it’s got to be the right deal for you. You got to, you know, get the guy that you want or need. But I do think that the Colts the Colts making a move is like a a big moment for the Broncos to say like, “Okay, if they’re doing it, maybe we should, too.” And the last thing that you could have is the Chiefs or the Chargers being the ones to jump you and make that move. Now it’s in an arms race and you’re behind. And uh w with the Colts making a move for Sauce Gardner. Two ones for Sauce, which is is a huge blockbuster deal. How would you counter that? You go get a receiver to uh to be in the competition for Sas when you meet in the playoffs right there. That would be fascinating. Um but guys, I don’t I think the Broncos might be viewed in a different class than the Colts and a higher class than the Colts right now. There’s some national power rankings that were put out uh in the past 24 hours. USA Today has the Broncos as the third best team in the NFL, third in their power rankings. The Colts aren’t above them. And then in Mike Florio’s Pro Football Talk, uh his power rankings, he has the Broncos at number two in the NFL. Now, of course, you can always get better, but if you were to tell me a team’s at two or three, that would indicate n they’re good. They don’t have to make a move in order to get to that next level because they are in the top level right there. Yeah. According according to one guy who who a friend of the show, right? Friend of the show, Mike Florio. Yes, we had a good talk. We had a long walk from his like set the Super Bowl to ours. Learned a lot from Mike. Um um Oh, but but back to the arms race thing. I don’t think it’s an arms race because nobody’s racing the Colts. It’s just the Colts are in an arms sprint. They got long arms, too, right? I’m soft, right? But yeah, but nobody else is racing them in the AFC yet. Like, they’re just like, there they go. There’s the there’s the number one team out there taking an even bigger lead. I think I think the Broncos need to turn it into a race. Somebody needs to turn it into a race. Otherwise, it’s just like the arms sprint. Is that the best thing to call? I don’t know what it is. Yeah. An arms jog. Like the Colts are just going out for a jog. there’s no one chasing them, right? So, yeah, really quick, first and foremost, never ever ever put Sauce Gardner in the same sentence as PS2 again, but I think that had already stopped. It had stopped, but now he’s back to being good this year. And that’s what I was going to say is people in the comments are like, “Sauce is overrated. Sauce this, Sauce that.” It’s actually true, but don’t confuse that with Sauce isn’t good because he actually is really good. He’s just not as good as people wanted him to be um because he played for New York and so they’re like, “Oh, we need him to be better than PS2.” Um so yeah, he’s not better than PS2, but he is really good. Like that’s a big move for the Colts. I I think this is a a win-win win for for all sides. Sas gets to play on a winning team. The Colts get a very good player, not PS2’s caliber, but a very good player as they make this playoff push. And the Jets just get to fully rebuild, which is what they’re doing. Four first round picks, guys. That is insane for a team to have. That is the definition of of rebuilding. Of course, that’s Broncos former friend Darren Muji as their GM right now. Yeah. It’s too bad the quarterback class sucks. Um except for my guy Ty. My guy something Mendoza. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fernando. There you go. There you go. Um I’ll just say Vegas would not agree with those power rankings uh as it relates to favorites to win the Super Bowl. Currently, Bills, Chiefs, Rams, Lions, Eagles, Packers, Colts, Seahawks, and Broncos are kind of a a fall-off below that. Seahawks at plus, 1100. Broncos are next, but they’re at plus,500. Again, Seahawks made a trade, Colts made a trade, Eagles made a trade. Uh, so the, you know, the teams that are in the Broncos class that they would say, yeah, have jumped above the Broncos, I think, by adding talent to the roster. I bet you if the Broncos trade for Jaylen Wadd, they’ll be right next to the Colts at plus a thousand. So then let me let me phrase it like this. Do you guys think the Broncos should be desperate at the trade deadline this year? Desperate is the wrong word. Uh because aggressive would be a better word for Dion. Like desperate to me is is what you were saying earlier, like okay, you’re at the end of your window. Yeah. You need to make something happen. Um so of course you go trade for Vernon Davis. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Uh but you know, you know what I’m saying? Like that’s okay. We have to make something happen. We have a very clear hole here. And that’s the other thing that the Broncos have a luxury over most of the league. I don’t think the Broncos have a very clear hole anywhere. Um there are places on the roster that are certainly upgradable and that’s why I’m excited for the potential of them doing that. But I wouldn’t say you look at any spot on the roster and say like, “Wow, that’s a true weak spot.” Right. But I also feel like they kind of lack strengths, at least on the offensive side of the ball. Like there’s the offensive line is a strength, but outside of that, it’s like I don’t know that like Evan Ingram hasn’t been like this every week you’re going to the game, you’re saying like, “We’ve got the better tight end.” They’re definitely some positive signs, but you’re not there. Like Courtland Sutton isn’t a strength. It’s just that hey, if he’s your number one receiver, you’ve got a number one receiver. It’s not like having Jamar Chase or any of those guys. And the number two and down, they’re fun. They’re only getting better, but you don’t have like a How often is your number two receiver the better number two receiver in the game? Hasn’t happened for the Broncos in quite a while, maybe this season. And that’s why I don’t know that you maybe you do even call it a hole. It’s just that it’s a hole that is slowly solving itself as they develop and become better. Well, and it’s kind of solved by Shawn Payeyton’s, you know, um, by committee approach to it, like some days it’s Troy Franklin, some days it’s Marvin Mims, right? Some days it could be Evan Ingram. We haven’t seen that one yet, but we assume that that’s a possibility. And we already knew this, guys, but last week Shawn Payton made it as clear as he ever has when just talking about how he rotates these receivers. Remember how we always said Shawn Peyton doesn’t have an X or a Y or a Z type of receiver? he’s going to rotate these guys and he’s going to make those guys on his own individual play be exactly who he wants. John Payeyton said if you want an X, Y, or Z receiver, well, you’re going to have to wait until I’m gone here because that’s not going to happen on my watch. So, that might mean that the Broncos aren’t interested in a big-time trade for a receiver because he just does like to rotate guys uh inside and out. You’ve seen Pat Bryan develop as big Tai in uh the Toyota chat says. You’ve seen Troy Franklin take a big step up, guys. Troy Franklin led the team in targets this past week. 10 targets, only four catches there, though. Um, so I mean, what’d you see? Nothing. Just a funny crossover politics football tweet. Those are always funny there. Um, all right. So, any other names outside of receiver? Because we’ve seen a big-time cornerback be traded. We’ve seen uh a linebacker Logan Wilson was traded. We saw former Denver Bronco Draymond Jones traded. Any other nonwide receiver, non-tightends that you would want to see the Broncos go after? Can we get tight ends first? Sure. Okay. Um the reason why I haven’t been like over the moon talking about these tight ends is like let’s just run through the receiving yards leaders for tight ends. Uh number one, Travis Kelce not available. Still first, huh? Yeah. really annoying, but that’s not the point. We’re moving on. Uh, number two, Tyler Warren, not available. Number three, Tucker Craft injured, right? That’s a nice way. Yeah, no jokes. Uh, number four, Trey McBride, pro not available. Iron Gadson, not available. Sam Laora, not available. Dalton Concincaid not available. Jawan Johnson potentially available, but probably not available. Daltton Schultz probably not available. Jake Ferguson not available. Kyle Pittz, but you go all the way down and then we’re only like three, four, five guys away from hitting Evan Ingram, who has been not his best, but it’s something. And that’s why like I just don’t see anybody out there who I say that could do it. That that that’s the guy that makes a lot of sense. Well, and the to to be fair, it’s the Broncos aren’t necessarily only going after blockbuster or bust here. Um, as much as that would be fun blockbuster or bust, I think wide receiver, that makes sense. at tight end. You just laid out why that doesn’t make sense, but it doesn’t mean the Broncos won’t make that move. A TJ Hawinson, a David and Jooku could potentially be in the mix there. Just like offensive line, uh I do not believe the Broncos are looking for a star caliber offensive lineman to fill the place of Poucho because one, Poucho’s been good. Two, you’re going to get Ben Powers back. So, if it is a trade on the offensive line is won’t be sexy, but it’ll be a fringe start or a backup offensive lineman there. Everyone with NFL in their handle and a blue check mark is like hinting towards the Broncos doing something. It’s starting to make me think that nothing’s going to happen. They all just see somebody else do it and like, “Oh, I’ll say it, too. And if we’re all wrong, nobody’s going to blame me.” Yep. But like, I think it’s about 50/50 that the Broncos make a move after talking to people over the past 48 hours or so. Apparently, the the Jets still aren’t done. So, Garrett Wilson, that was your original guy. this. He was number one on my top 10 rankings. Again, I love Jaylen Wadd. The you’re picking between like ice cream and cake here. Both incredible foods. Um I think ice cream is so much better. That I would agree. But when you get the cake is the best. Ice cream is really good. And I mean the variety of flavors. Cake is a little bit like it’s like three or four. Yeah. Um but if you wind up with the cake instead of the ice cream, you can’t be upset. Jaylen Waddles my cake. He’s incredible. He’s fast. He gets open quickly on all those like drag routes and all that sort of stuff. Um it’s awesome. But the way that uh Garrett Wilson, sorry, ice cream cake in the chat got me thinking. Um the way that Garrett Wilson just so consistently gets open in every different way, like you just can’t cover him with one guy and the hands. And I wasn’t a Garrett Wilson guy. Like for the past couple years, people have talked about Garrett Wilson been like, “Yeah, he’s fine. He’s whatever.” And going back and studying up for this trade deadline, he really is special. and you see all the different things that he does. Um, with Justin Fields’s quarterback, I think I’ve said it before, but you you play against like a cover three defense and that second level, four defenders, there’s that big gap in the middle and there are plays where you see Garrett Wilson runs up the field, runs the dig, and then just slows down in the middle of the field and Fields doesn’t see him and Fields doesn’t see him and Fields doesn’t see and then eventually Fields finally finds him. It’s like, “Oh my goodness, if you just hit him in stride there, he could be gone.” And the hands are the But also, he had the wherewithal to like stay in the window as long as he possibly could. Right. Again, like he’s not the most physical guy. He’s undersized, but for his size, incredible hands. Like, he’s basically like bringing Emanuel Sanders in here. So, I I these are my number one. Jaylen Waddles right there. Yep. I agree. Those are the two big guys that we’re keeping our name on. Let’s hear from Shawn Payeyton about where the Broncos stand at the trade deadline. Not only is this maybe insightful, but it’s entertaining as can be. Let’s get to that after I give a shout out to our friends over at Ant Credit Union Broncos country, this one’s for you. If you want to bake like a Bronco, you got to check out our friends over at Ant Credit Union because they have so many different Broncos debit cards that you can get. The one on the screen is Bonix throwing an unbelievable pass. You got it signature on it. You can also get a traditional Broncos debit card. They’ve got it all over at Ant Credit Union. And not only do you get to rep the Broncos with your debit card, which you use every single day. You also get perks that every Broncos fan wants. Every 15 swipes on your end debit card earns you a chance to get tickets to a Broncos home game and 10% off food and gear on game days at Empower Field at Mile High. Look, you’re going to swipe your debit card anyways. 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Like you’re about to be able to go into like the Broncos team store or like our friends over at Sports Fan and look up on the rack and there’s going to be a new jersey up there because they’re making a splash so big it’s going to be one of the guys that sells jerseys. Um it used to be that a lot of guys like you used to be able to go to Dicks and they’d have a whole wall. It’d be everybody. I remember like 2010 you go in there and have like 20 different guys like I remember like TJ Ward jerseys up there, Derek Wolf and Malik Jackson. Um, and now they don’t make as many, but now they will have one more because they’re about to find one more superstar potentially their I can’t say best offensive player, one of their three best offensive players behind Garrett BS and Quinn Miners. And that’s going to be pretty sick. And uh, if you see the future being just as bright, you can check out our friends over at Shady Rays. Use the code DNVR at checkout over at shady.com to get 35% off polarized glasses. That’s code dnvr over at shadyrays.com. You know, it’s funny cuz last week a said on our show like, I don’t want the Broncos to make a trade. Like, I don’t want to mess with the vibes. And so, that’s another thing I’ll take away from this if nothing happens. Like, okay, the vibes remain intact. No, no vibe challenging has happened. Um, but yesterday on the show, which you guys should watch, uh, it came out this morning. Go check it out. No lie zone on YouTube. He said the Broncos are going to win the [ __ ] Super Bowl if they start hitting more deep balls. Well, how do you do that? You make a trade for a guy who helps you hit more deep balls. And that’s that’s I ended up kind of kind of talking him into Jaylen Waddle. Um, but that’s why I’m just I just can’t stop thinking about that. Like, sure, does Bo have to be more accurate on those passes? Yes. But also throwing it to a better receiver will help too. If you want to hit on deep balls, Jaylen Wadd’s your guy, right? Like your your quarterback leads the NFL in over throws. There’s 40. Somebody somebody else is at 39. How do you get rid of overthrows? Get faster. Run faster, right? Just run faster. So, let’s let’s check in with Sean because yesterday he talked to the media for the last time before the trade deadline. It was a uh conference call. It was a short conference call and this is the spiciest that we’ve heard Sean. So, I started off by asking him uh well, you’ll hear the question. It’s just simply about the trade deadline. Let’s listen to this 11 seconds of bliss. Hey coach, with the uh trade deadline tomorrow, what do you expect the next 24 hours to be like? And do you feel like you’re in a position where where you want to make a move? We’ll see. And that’s all from Sean on that account. Steven, but don’t worry, we have a followup on the trade deadline, which Sean was so thrilled to hear about. But before we actually got the question, the second question about the trade deadline, um, shout out to Mike Cliss for asking the trade deadline question, but he was called upon earlier in the press conference to ask it. Well, here’s how it went. Mike Cliss 9 News. We’ll skip Mike and go to Cody work. Oh, you cut it off too early. That was that was it. It just you hear you cut it off too early. Oh. Anyway, Sean jumps in right after and says he’s sleeping. So, uh then we get Mike back after after another question and uh so Sean little spicy. Sean should have still been sleeping. Yeah. Early early press conference. Not great. Oh yeah. Yeah. He was he was Oh, they just 10 minutes before, not even 10 minutes before, they decided to go three hours earlier than they were supposed to. Yeah. Interesting. I was thinking like maybe he was like me and Henry who after the game just went down to the bar and watched football and drank beer all day. See, I I remember the press conference where we got the email at 9:51 saying that there was a press conference at 9:45. Oh, I missed that one. Yeah. Yeah. Understandable. Yeah. Um Yeah, it was tough. Um so then gets another shot here and uh this is uh this is how it went down. Yeah, Sean, I’m up now. Um the great with with the trade and you know you’re in a buyer position. Philosophically, do you believe in the benefit? What trade? Well, I was just wondering philosophically if you believe uh in sending a message to the team that you’re all in, you know, as far as acquiring a player and that kind of thing. Mike, we would never make a trade to send a message to the team. Everyone in the locker room, our players, coaches, management, front office knows that we’re all in to win. The trade would take place, this this supposed trade is if we found value in something that could help us, period. That’s it. Um, we’re not looking to send a message. That’s good. Mike’s up now. You know, these coaches, it’s just tough to talk to these coaches after a losing streak. Oh, wait. Right. Six game winning streak, right? You know, Sean, in the past in year one with Russ, he said that during a winning streak, sometimes you have to set an emergency off to get the team refocused. Wouldn’t be surprised after a six-game win streak, uh especially playing a two and six Raiders team this week that this is where the emergency happens and it started with the media yesterday. Yeah, I saw a clip of uh Shiloh Sanders one time when Coach Prime was like freaking out in practice and he just goes manufactured adversity. That could definitely be it. Uh, so yeah, I guess Sean’s, you know, pushing the media as well. I just like manufactured adversity. I love it, too. Like I the grumpy Shawn is a good sh like he’s all ball. Like all ball is all you can ask for from a coach. This is like a special level of grumpy. It is. This is And guys, it makes me think I’m in like the 60s. Like I’m not I’m not personally capable of even being that grumpy. Not even I’ve tried. Maybe we should try this. It’s not over, guys. There’s one more that we got to get to. Now, this one is a little different, but it’s still a pertinent topic for Broncos. So, I think Sean’s answer is actually good, but that’s not the reason we’re playing this. It’s to just show uh the the mood that Shawn’s in on this short week. So, just to give Shawn a little credit here before he absolutely goes crazy, um Sean, the very first question of the press conference, I asked a second question. The very first question before me was about special teams because you guys remember Sunday night after the game, Sean said, “If special teams isn’t able to get figured out, then we’ll get someone else to do it.” And for Trayon Smith and Yeah, exactly. who made a play against the Bron. Um, but it’s like was he talking about the coaching and he’s going to make a coach and Darren Rzy’s going to be out or is he talking about players? Well, Sean answered that first question in the press conference by saying it is the personnel, it is the players, it is not the coaching. And our friend Luca Evans asked Sean pretty much the exact same question. Oh, so the question was asked earlier. It was asked earlier and that’s why Sean he’s already in a grumpy mood and now he gets this. So let’s just play the entire question. Yeah, Sean, just wanted to go back uh when you talked about the special teams issues and and you were saying, you know, yesterday we had to, you know, we have to get that cleaned up or we’ll find someone else that that can do it. Are you referring to personnel there or are you referring to to coaching? You know, Evan, Evan, Evan, if you were paying attention, I’m referring to players that aren’t on the field that need to be. All right, coaching is outstanding. All right, we’ll get that cleaned up. My point is if there’s 10 in the field and there’s supposed to be 11, all right, then that player that’s supposed to be out there, I’ll find someone else to do his job. Is that crystal clear? Yep. Yep. My name is Luca. Okay, perfect. Perfect. Oh my goodness, bro. I have so much respect for Luca for saying that. Absolutely. Honestly, I I don’t think I would have I would have just been like, “Wow, I just that’s a big L for me.” Like, just go on about the day. Yep. Yep. Yep. Now you all get why we were saying Steven Steen Steven. Uh but what’s going to be interesting is actually guys, right now is a pretty significant marker. The Broncos start their practice right now. So the Broncos and Shawn Peyton are on the practice field all the way through the trade deadline. They’re done with practice around 2:15, which actually means about 300 p.m. is when they’re going to be done. Uh, so Shawn Payeyton, his communication with George Payton might be done right now. They might have their plans in place and George is just making the last few moves on a player or it means that that they’re done right now. Obviously, George can still be making trades without Shawn, but it is notable that those two aren’t going to be together until the trade deadline is passed. Don’t Sean just have like an earpiece in or George just walks out there? Like if you’re on the team right now and you see George walk out that door during practice. Y imagine this. You see the door open on right there on the corner of uh Compete Street. Compete Street and what the Crossroads. I don’t know. Compete Street and Broncos Parkway, I guess. Right. Yeah. Uh, and like a light film of steam comes rolling out and then just like 75 penguins. Oh. Uh, what’s that book? Uh, Mr. Poppers Penguins. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How many penguins there? Not 101. Noations, right? Um, yeah. And then it’s just like a penguins are just running everywhere. Oh my goodness. Well, it wouldn’t be good news for the receivers. That’s true. It wouldn’t be good for future draft capital either. Um, but Ryan, you you mentioned that it’s Compete Street and Broncos Park powered by Common Spirit because our friends over at Common Spirit, the Rocky Mountain region, are the way to go. If you need anything with your health, Common Spirit Health has got you. They’re more than just hospitals and clinics. 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Find a common spirit location near you over at mountain.spirit commonspirit.org. Common Spirit Health, official care partner of the Denver Broncos. And if you’re if you’re let’s just say Greg Penner Broncos make a big move. You’ve got let’s just call it Jaylen Wadd. He’s been our guy today. Mr. Penner’s Penguins. Mr. Penners Penguins and Mr. Payton. But but you make the big move. You bring Jaylen Wadd in. Uh you want to show them a good time. What do you do? You just fill that lobby with Taco Bell. You got the cheesy gordita crunches, the beefy five layer burritos. You want to show that you’re a first class organization. you show your new addition all the Taco Bell he can eat. Um they’ve got all all sorts of great stuff. Um including a limited time menu where you can get things like the new Flamin’ Hot Frito grilled cheese burrito. The grilled cheese burritos are a fan favorite. This edition of course takes it up a notch with the spicy flamin’ hot rice flamin’ hot burritos. Um all sorts of good stuff in there. We also have the Buffs boxes. That might be the best part get getting traded to the Broncos. You’re now in Colorado where you can get the Buffs box. My favorite thing. Um, only $7. You get four classics. You get the player collectible cup. Uh, it’s the best deal in all of Colorado. Taco Bell, proud partner of CU Athletics. They donate $1,000 to Golden Buffalo Scholarship Foundation for every CU touchdown scored in 2025. Live Moss at Taco Bell. And shout out to our presenting sponsor, Bet365. Use that code DNVR365. For those just joining us and did not hear, we are doing a 2hour trade special. So, the show isn’t just done in 15 minutes. We are going to be rocking and rolling till at least 200 p.m. And guys, we have a little bit of trade news here. Jordan Schultz says Bree Hall wants to be traded. This is a name that we’ve talked about over the past week with the Broncos. Haven’t mentioned him today. Should the Broncos be interested or your initial reaction to this, Ryan? My initial reaction, I was like, yeah, bro wants to be traded. He literally just watched the team get rid of all their good players. He doesn’t want to be the last Jet. Yeah, exactly. Oh, just me and Justin Fields. Oh, that’d be terrible. Um, I don’t know. I don’t know. I also don’t know. I know. I think you’re you’re upgrading the running back position while also stunting the growth of R.J. Harvey, who is growing, right, pretty rapidly. He’s growing very rapidly. And that that’s why you you don’t make this trade. Um, you would make this trade. I’m touching wood here in the uh thought of a potential injury, which you don’t do right now. JK Dobbins one of the best running backs in the NFL. And R.J. Harvey is developing into Deshawn Payeyton’s next joker. And there’s no doubt about it, guys. JK or R.J. Harvey has the second most receiving touchdowns among rookies this year. One number one is Tory Horton, uh Mr. CSU. He has five receiving touchdowns that leads the NFL. R.J. Harvey is tied with um Amecha Ibuka for the second most receiving touchdowns. He’s a running back. That just shows he is developing into Shawn Peyton’s guy. The Broncos have their running back set uh for the rest of this year. The toughest Hall tweeted of an emoji so sad. I didn’t even know it existed. I had never seen that emoji either. Oh, that is very sad. The saddest possible emoji. It’s really tough when you demand a trade 70 minutes before the deadline. Like you’re just not given much time for a deal to get done. I think, you know, the tough part for the Broncos is that right now they only have one running back who can run between the tackles and you hope RJ Harvey figures it out, but as of now a lot of what he does is super valuable, especially especially in this offense. Like you split him out and have him run a fade, you’re scoring touchdowns off that play, the tosses, everything you do with him that’s outside the outside the box, outside the tackle box, incredible stuff. But he can’t run between the numbers or so far hasn’t been able to figure it out. Same thing with Jal. Same thing with Tyler Bedet. Uh same thing with Doob Bond who is the practice squad running back. And typically you at least have somebody in the building who’s also capable of that. It’s just a little bit scary going in the playoffs where running between the tackles is so so so important to be relying on a guy who has struggled to finish seasons over the course of his career. Um now if JK Dobbins is healthy then there’s absolutely no reason to have another guy for that role. Um, I don’t know that you need to go make a big splash to find that guy. Like there’s just there’s got to be somebody out there Esté who you can just sign to the practice squad. He’ll he’ll never come back. He’ll never come back. But that’s all you need is like if there was a clone of Esté who had never been a Bronco before, I’d be saying go pick that guy up because if you need four yards up the middle over and over again, he can provide some insurance. So there we go. We’re all on the same page there, guys. Before we pause for this first hour, I want to just get to some other news related to the Broncos, not along the trade deadline, just to mention it because it’s something that caught my eye. The Broncos dropped their estimated injury report yesterday. And to me, I was pretty shocked by it. It caught me off guard. And so, let me tell you what a estimated injury report is. So, Broncos did not practice yesterday. It was a players off day. But because they play a Thursday night game, they’re required to drop an injury report yesterday. So, it’s estimated. It’s who would have practiced if they held practice. Then they will have a real one today because they are practicing, although it’s a walkthrough. And then tomorrow, they’ll drop their final game status report where we’ll know who is playing and who isn’t playing. And Dion, if you want to pull it up right now. Um, so you had the same guys that did not practice all of last week. You had Pat Certan, PJ or Yeah, Pat Certan, PJ Lockach, Nate Atkins, and Marvin Mims. He did not practice. One thing that really stood out to me that’s concerning Marvin Mims concussion. Still did not practice yesterday. No one practiced yesterday. If he But see, that’s that’s where we uh where I need to I’ll educate you, Ryan, here because a lot of people are saying that I’ll educate you. But then there were three other ones that popped up here from the game. JT Gray, we knew he was hurt. Two guys who popped up out of nowhere. Brandon Jones did not practice. was listed as did not practice and Riley Moss did not practice. To me, guys, this is concerning until I see otherwise today. Yeah, I’m pretty concerned that the Broncos didn’t practice in an imaginary practice. See, you can say that. You know who you know who practiced in an imaginary practice yesterday? All 50 All 53 Raiders. Oh wow. Okay. So, here’s my theory. Um, does anyone recall a few minutes ago when we were showing the mood Shawn Payeyton was in yesterday? Yeah. Can you imagine the person who had to go up to him and be like, “So, we have to give an imaginary injury report today?” I would hate to be that guy. That’s a terrible job. Uh, and I bet you Sean was like, “Oh, yeah. We got to give an imaginary injury report.” Okay. Uh, go ahead and say Riley Moss didn’t practice in our imaginary practice. Say Brandon Jones didn’t practice either. I know I am a little bit scared about the Raiders imaginary practice report though because it really does it would have a massive impact on the imaginary game on Thursday if they imaginarily had all their players. Mhm. Just imagination stuff. So I don’t know if you’re you’re you’re trying to troll while also trying to walk a serious line here. I don’t know how I feel. I’m not I’m not pressing the panic button, but it is just interesting that no one from last week is any sort of healthy again. Um, and then you also have a couple of other guys. Tune in. I I’m going to go down to practice right after this. Um, I we’ve been dropping a a VOD on YouTube, so it’s under the video section giving you an update after each practice, so make sure to tune in there. We’ll have the latest injury news there. Um, but guys, let’s say this does hold, Ryan, and I totally understand what you’re saying, and again, that’s why I’m not panicking, but it’s just something that caught my attention. Um, if this does hold up, the Broncos will be without three of their four starting members of the secondary. And it’s the Raiders. It’s a two-6 Raiders team, but they do have Brock Bowers. And that guy in his first game back from an MCL sprain went for multiple touchdowns and 124 yards. I I don’t I don’t want my secondary uh being out 75% of the starters. I could imagine it going poorly. Yeah. I mean, look, you have your radar up, but I’m not even worried if they don’t practice today. It’s a Thursday night game. Like, there’s a chance that you don’t practice guys just and just play them on Thursday. It’s the only time where I would say that. Um but you could say like, “Yeah, these guys need to get healthy.” It would be bad news if you’re out those guys. It was like we no Brandon Jones when you already don’t have PJ Lock. Um that would mean we see a lot of Jail Skinner which I personally would be very very excited about but also would go in with the expectation that this could lead to issues you know. Um so yeah I mean if they don’t play it’s big trouble. Uh it’s trade deadline day. Everything is happy. I’m wearing my shady rays. Future is bright. We’ll deal with the problems when the problems come. I said I want to spend five minutes on it. We spent four minutes on it. Everything else is about the trade deadline. Uh and we have a lot of people tuning in right now. Hitting us with a thumbs up right below the screen helps us out so much on YouTube. We’re very appreciative of it. It’s free. Hit us with a thumbs up. If you want to go that extra step, join the supporters club. That helps us a lot. Go to the main DNVR YouTube page. You can join there. You get your emoji next to you. Shout out to our guy Cody who is a member of the supporters club. also the king of the thumbs up. We’re going to see him uh in Denver. He’s coming from Las Vegas to see the Broncos beat the Raiders this week. And for everyone new here, we do this every single day of the week. Uh every single week of the year, five days a week, and of course, always when the Broncos play. So, a little bit of a different schedule this week. We went yesterday, today, tomorrow, then Thursday, we’re going all night long. We’re going to do the pregame show right around 5:45 5:30. Then we’ve got the watch along all game and then after that we will be doing a postgame show. Then we’re going to round out the week on Friday. And guys, in just 72 hours the Broncos can have the best record in the NFL. No like tied with anyone, just simply the best record in the NFL. and maybe they’ve got a Waddle, a Wilson, uh, an Injoku on their team in this time. We are just over an hour away from the trade deadline. And shout out to the Toyota chat, everyone tuning in live right now because I asked for some thumbs up and you guys just crushed it. Let’s get another round of thumbs up right now. That number just exploded. We appreciate all of you. And before we take just a quick little break for the second hour before the trade deadline, let’s hit some super chats right now. And our first super chat really quick to the person who keeps saying Broncos need a punt returner. Go get uh Chimra DK from the uh Titans. First of all, the Broncos have the back-to-back best punt returner in the NFL, an allp pro. Yes. Second of all, why would the Titans trade the only electric player on their team? Third of all, he’s a rookie. Chary DK is awesome. He is. I wish he was a Bronco. I’ll take Marvin. I will also take Marvin, but I wish he was a Bronco. He was really cool. You already got that guy. DK probably will take the good chance to take the title from Marvin this year. Similar to me really wanting Devon Achan because I think that he’s like most pretty close to Jir Gibbs. As crazy as people tell me I am when I say that, but that just doesn’t make a lot of sense at the moment, unfortunately. That’s very fair. All right, let’s get to at least some of these super chats now. We’re definitely going to get to them before the trade deadline. First one coming in from Apple Kid, who says, “The Broncos have the best record in their league. It’s an open AFC leading the division with a Super Bowl caliber defense. The time is now with some Penguin emojis. The time is now. Make a deal. Look at the Colts. Colts know the time is now. I think the time is now. They’re going for it. They have Daniel Jones at quarterback. Yes. Exactly. Next one from David Robinson who drops us two super chats. We appreciate that. David says, “Get Wadd and Hawinson both.” question mark. I mean, we got an hour left. I’m settling for one at this point. Yeah, me too. But if David Robinson says so, I’m all in. Yeah. Joe Guerrero, who’s a member of the supporters club, says heading to Denver tomorrow for the first game at Mile High for his first game at Mile High. Central Cali fan. I’m going with a bunch of Raiders fans, so we better whoop their ass. #LFB. How do you know Raiders fans? Yeah, you shouldn’t associate with them. Yeah, cuz the weird thing is like for to be a Raider fan, we all know they’re bad people, but like how do you look at the Raiders logo and everything about them and think like I should support like they’re so obviously the bad guys. It’s so hard cuz I was going to say like, “Oh, come to the tailgate.” But now I don’t feel that way. We don’t. You should come to the tailgate without friends. Yeah, probably pick pockets. Oh my gosh. Justin Wenzel says, “The move for me this year is Hawinson or another top inline tight end. The move gives you the biggest positional upgrade and upgrades the run game, which will be more important in the playoffs in my opinion. I I totally see where you’re coming from, Justin. And cost less, right? That good. Adam Troutman’s a better blocker than Hawinson. Maybe not better than Hawinson was a few years ago, but as of now, like it’s just he’s a shell. Tanner says, “What’s your guys’ thoughts on a final record projection now that we are halfway through the season?” I love it, Tanner. I think actually maybe early next week we do kind of like a mid-season report. Now, as Sean’s made it clear, there’s no true mid-season uh in the NFL anymore. We kind of dive into there, but guys sitting at seven and two right now. Yeah, 15 and two. 15 and two. Um did you know that the Broncos, this is going to this might mess with your brain a little bit, so just make sure you’re sitting down. The Broncos have not lost a game in which they have trailed. Wow. So, it’s good when they go down, right? Everything’s good, right? They just can’t let the the other team have the ball last entire game. That’s the only way they lose, right? So, they were ahead of the Colts the entire game. Yes. And the Chargers. Yes. That’s crazy. Or no, maybe it’s trailed in the fourth quarter. Yeah. They have not trailed in the fourth quarter. Have not lost a game in which they trailed in the fourth quarter. Yep. Yep. That is which makes no sense. That is crazy. It shows just how close they are to truly being 9 and0. And truly, it’s not crazy that you have some national outlets saying the Broncos are number two in power rankings, number three in power rankings. You could even put the Broncos at number one in power rankings with that stat if you wanted to. Yes. Uh C. Ryan says, “Does Denver’s cap space allow for a Waddle or maybe even a Garrett Wilson?” It’s a great question because right now the cap space does not. They have $4.9 million in available cap space, but you can make a move right now with a player in their agent to open up cap space and and be fine. And Wadd’s salary is 1.2 million this year, so he counts for 600k against your cap. And I think Garrett Wilson’s a little more, but again, you can easily make that move. Y it works so perfectly. As soon as Russ goes off the books, that’s when his cap hit goes up. It’s not even that big of a cap hit. Yep. Exactly. Three more really quick. Fonza says, “I have Garrett Wilson in fantasy and dude is a baller. He has had terrible quarterback play and consistently gets a,000 yards.” Yep. Very impressive. Uh legend Killa says, “We’re getting the fourth quarter Broncos for the deadline.” I love it. That’s a great way to look at it. And we are entering the final quarter right now. 58 minutes left. We could be 58 minutes away from my pro my prediction coming true. What’s that? That the Broncos say their trade deadline acquisition was Dre Green Law. Yeah, it’s very true. Which guys, by the way, he was so good in this past game play. 27 snaps pretty much in base defense. That’s how they’re bringing him back right now and working him with Justin. Um he saved the Broncos potentially two touchdowns on those goal line stands. Yep. Insane. Aiden, final super chat in this first hour says, “Would you guys be excited for Jawan Jennings?” No. Yeah. Yeah. No. Marvin Mims, Troy Franklin, Pat Bryant. I’m good with that. You already have Evan Ingram. Yeah. You know, like why would you want I don’t have sources, but someone did text me earlier like, “I heard the Broncos were potentially about to get this guy, but then it fell through and like it was a similar person.” And I was just like, “No, that actually lowered my heart rate.” Um, don’t go anywhere because I have a feeling all of our heart rate’s going to go up. As I mentioned earlier, this is a 2hour show. We just wrapped up the first segment. We’re going to take just a quick break to catch up with everything that’s going on in the NFL. It’s going to be the exact same stream. Don’t go anywhere. In the meantime, just hit us with a thumbs up. We really appreciate that. And uh, make sure to stay tuned. We’re not going anywhere. Enjoy the final hour with us. We’ll be back in just a minute. And we’re back. Has anything happened? Um, well, I had a donut. I had a little thing of nerds. I had a little thing of Smarties. I had a few I had a few of those peanut butter pretzels. The problem was I had the peanut butter pretzels in the middle. And so they have like little pieces of salt on them, you know? Yeah. And occasionally get the salt with the Smarty. M. Terrible. Interesting. Because I would think like a handful of nerds with similarly shaped grains of salt could actually go kind of hard. No. Terrible together. Terrible together. Yeah. Um, no. Nothing. That’s actually crazy that you had all of that in that short period of time. Well, it was just kind of a route. So, I just kind of grabbed something, ate it, grabbed something, and ate it. Yeah. It is a good day up in the office. We have free coffee and donuts. Over sugared, underfed, cuz we didn’t get free Taco Bell. We just got a pie. And Zack Stevens looks slightly different. Maybe that’s from the previous hour. Don’t smirk that pie. No, there are no rules in part two. I felt like it. I just mentioned it wasn’t lunch. Yeah, it wasn’t lunch. Could be. We’re We’re used to being fed by For years ago for me. This is not a show. Could you guys introduce me? Please. I’m begging. Could you introduce me? We made a trade. Simon. We made a trade. Simon. Simon. Simon. I get that reference. I watched the first half. That was my prep for you. Did you like it? Actually, I have some notes. I’ll take it. That’s better than expect later. Uh Andre Sibote has joined us. Let’s go. That’s my guy. General manager of DNVR. Irrelevant for this show. Yes. The alltime draft guru of DNVR. Um that’s nice of you to say. Formerly my pod partner on the bet show, which someone shouted out earlier uh in the chat. Better known as the best. and the three of us. Well, it runs in close comparison with the three of us. True. Who I would say probably had the best show in DNVR history, which was the tailgate. Uh, so we’re glad to have him here. I don’t know. Is what? Janet. Janice. Janice. [ __ ] It happens. Oh god. Take that out, Dion. We need Dre is here. I’m so sorry. Dre is here to generally manage the second half of this special. Oh, great. We need to start by who’s the biggest winner of the day. Um, the Jets. The Jets by tearing everything down. Draft guy. It’s That is a classic draft guy. There’s so many picks. There’s so many picks. Biggest loser, the Cowboys. Have you covered the Quinn and Williams trade? So, we talked about it. It’s an interesting one. Is it? Yes. Tell me more. Well, Quinnon Williams is really good. I know, right? I know he is. Uh, the Cowboys also have Kenny Clark, right? Yes. So they just he knows ball. They just got really strong on the interior. That’s right. Um that’s why they traded Maisie Smith or Mozzy. Stop it. He’s a He’s a reader. The all 22 is silent. Yeah, it is. Not to be confused with Muzzy, who might be Is that how you learn English? Muzzi. [Laughter] You don’t know Muzzy? I We’ll talk Muzzy after. Okay. So, um you guys come from Italy if you didn’t know. in this Jets fire sale. Yes. Has anyone considered brother Quincy Williams? Oh, how’s he doing right now? Scrap heap edition at the trade deadline. Are you a Broncos need to add a linebacker guy? Obsies. Jose, stand up. Jose, I see you. I see your agenda will be addressed. No doubt. Um, I’m also a Drew Sanders believer. I don’t know. How could you be both? the last for for like a what’s Quincy going to go for seven but so but okay so you want to go to the Cowboys Dre Green Justin Alex Singleton and then you’ve got Drew Sanders coming back at any moment well I mean supposedly so supposedly he was out four to six weeks after the start of the season I know but supposedly Drew Sanders been out for four year you know like that’s true that is true as soon as he’s back is he gone again again big time Drew Sanders believer here but also a realist. Um Quincy before this season backto backto backto back hundo tackle seasons, right? So big linebacker tackles. Uncle don’t respect tackle. I think that’s an ill of society to think that. But I I know you you like to site counting stats. So I figured that’s one direction I’d go. We could count some things. Um, another note I’d go really pissed me off when you were talking about receiving yards for tight ends. Oh, what the Broncos need is multiplicity on offense. Multiplicity. It’s why the offense is working best. Two two-minute drives, third downs. When everyone in the stadium knows what they have to do, when they have to be multiple, they struggle to be multiple because everyone and their mother knows what’s going on. when when they’re huddling up based on personnel alone. You said, “Is Hawinson a better blocker than Troutman?” No, he is not. Is he a better blocker than Evan Ingram? Oh, absolutely. I mean, who I I might be. You definitely are. Is he a bet? Consulting. He’s in practice. He’s not watching. He’s not watching. Is he a better receiver than Adam Troutman Hawinson? Yes, he still is. By by a good margin. Yes. Multiplicity. That is multiplicity. He gives you a little bit of both. It scares me though that you’d be totally changing his role. So So Troutman’s like 68% of the time he’s in he’s blocking whereas I know everyone and their mother knows what’s going on when 182’s in the huddle. But for Hawinson for Hawinson it’s like 69% receiving. And so like no that that’s the old one. Now we like the other number a little lower. Um there’s the one there’s the one. Um but but so Troutman a little bit better blocker than Hawinson. I wonder what happens with Hawinson if you tell him like I’m sure he’d be accepting of okay now I’m two/3s blocking like I’m out here to be the blocker cuz Evan Ingram is still your receiver. I think multiplicity it still catch a little more than Troutman but he block a little less absolutely pass the ball in those personnel sets a little more. So do you think he’s eating into Evan Ingram snaps at all? Yeah, sure. Oh, okay. Everyone I think that’s the difference. Okay. Everyone can eat, you know. I just think that Evan Ingram I don’t see his role decreasing. So yeah, I mean more completions would help everyone’s role in the past game. That is true. There could just be more plays. I just want everyone who’s watching this to know that um this section of the show, the second hour is designed to have no structure. Throw up your twos, right? Uh so everything that happens from now is just off script. We’re just bonix. We’re literally out of the pocket looking downfield trying to make something happen. Could be a pick, could be a touchdown, but we’re not going to set our feet, that’s for sure. Are you guys familiar with uh Wesley Steinberg on Twitter? I am. Yes. He’s a troll account. Yes. But he is I mean he really gets people. He does. He gets me almost every time. I know. Even when you said Wesley Steinberg, I was like, “Wait, is that the real guy or the fake guy?” Like, “No, I know he’s fake.” He tweeted, “Uh, Giants GM Joe Shane is scrambling. He thought the trade deadline was Wednesday.” Ah, but like people believe him because he has a blue check, a good, you know, professional looking what was the one name like Wesley Steinberg. You assume he’s just an agent. Oh, it was the kicker. The kicker who hit the 68 yard and then like there’s like a parody account. Somebody tweeted Cam Little. Cam Little just like Cam Little parody account tweeted now I’m getting drug tested immediately and everybody took it and ran. Yep. Half of Denver bit. It’s great. Um, can I can I share the uh political thing that made me laugh earlier without everyone getting all weird? Probably. I mean, that’s I don’t think that again that would be another note. I don’t I don’t Zach was in the middle. Zach was like going on something. Keep your laughter to yourself. I know. We need more laughter. More laughter. I know, but you couldn’t even share. Well, I know you’re right. I’m sorry. Well, this is a bit of like you’re excluding everyone. What about what about starting when you said you had notes? What about when you’re just here to set? Yeah, I’m kind I’m kind of in a Shawn Payeyton mood. You’re generally you were in that mood yesterday in a row. Yeah, this week. Yeah, get ready. I need a question about a note. So, the laughing was inappropriate there. So, I mean inappropriate now that feels too strong when I don’t like using terms like that, frankly. When Zach was in the middle of his ad read and I pulled up a picture of the cover of Mr. Poppers Penguins with um I I read because they the notes then become overwhelming for me. Oh wow. Because then so during the ad read I was trying to show this picture to RK and so then we were laughing during the ad read. Is that bad? Stupid. Yes. That’s really cuz imagine if this was Sean with all the penguins. Yeah. All right. We’re sharing the political thing but no one’s allowed to make it political. Right. All right. Everyone in this is an impossible task. Take off the trailer. There we go. They great. It’s a great call. So, I’m sure you guys will know these this person. I don’t um cuz I only know Ball, but um Greg Abbott tweeted yesterday after the polls closed tomorrow night. I will impose a 100% tariff on anyone moving for from to Texas from NYC. Right. So then a guy quote tweeted that and said, “Will the Cowboys cover the 100% tariff on Quinnon Williams to Texas?” There we go. That’s funny. That is funny. It’s a good little crossover. Yes. Greg Abbitics. want to say, let’s just not say governor of Texas. Correct. Boom. Oh, our Texan knows. Our Texan native. Yeah. Shout out Dion. Greg Dion. And shout out. I feel like there was a guy named Greg Abbott who played for the Braves. Same guy. Yeah. No, no, no. We should never forget Abbott and Castello. Great comedy crew. They do a lot of the kind of shticks we like to do. Who do you want to comedy? Back to football. A Dre. Fine. Best best case scenario in the next 38 minutes is Jim Abbott. Uh David and Jooku for a sixth. Okay. And Evan Neil for swapping sevens. Evan Neil. So then what’s what’s the plan with Evan Neil? He’s just another warm body on the offensive line. We’re looking for warm bodies. We’ll swap sevens for warm body. But he’s still probably behind Throck Morton. And he’s still I guess maybe in front of I think he could give Throck a run for his money. He could get throcked up, you know. We got somebody else in chat saying best case no trades. Well, my question is mine is close to no trade while trading. You want to throw in a Quincy Williams? You can. I would. I We’ve ran out of six and seven stuff. I do feel bad for Just imagine you’re you’re not only playing for your brother, but it’s like, oh, at least I have him while I play for the Jets. Yeah. And then it’s just you alone on the Jets. I know. Tough. Really tough. Yeah. It’s like it’s tough. We mean it, not the kids, right? Tough to Dion would mean strong. Henry, uh, you’re the advanced stats guy. Can you tell me the time of day that the most trades have happened on trade deadline day? Well, the easy to get closer, but time analytics for us. I will say draft implications while Henry crunches some math. He also he’s the last person protesting AI. So, he’s going to have to do this by hand. Actually has to crank a wheel to to get this data for us. Churn some data. That’s a churning butter. Um, so my question though is I would assume the the most trades happen right at the deadline, but like leading right up to it. You think I kind of feel that hour before is where Well, we’re in the hour before. You’re saying the hour before? The hour before? The hour before. The hour. Okay. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I don’t know. I feel like movie the day. I feel like we’re about to enter the hot zone because like so let’s just you want to be uh the hot zone goes hard. Chris Greer. No, he’s fired. Champ Kelly. Totally. Okay, you’re him. That doesn’t sound like a name at all. You’ve told Well, I’m going to have to set this up for you, but you’ve told me like we’ll give you Wadd for a first and a third. All right. And I’m saying like we’ll give you a first and a fourth because I just want a part. I’m George Peyton. Uh, I just want to part with that fourth that we got for Vele. So, it’s like a wide receiver swap plus a one. Beautiful. Well done, George. It’s one o’clock. Yeah. I’m like, you know what, champ? I’m going to have to get back to you. Yeah. We’re sitting in this We’re sitting in this room together. You, me, well, now it’s me, Henry, um, you know, some other people involved with the Broncos. Okay. And the clock is in his normal role or he’s also member. No, Henry’s I don’t know. his assistant. He’s not credentialed me. Yeah. Right. Henry’s Kelly Klein. Third name. Looks into all the traits. That’s great. And yeah, I love what you did with your fingers. I hope at 1:00 we hung up the phone. Uhhuh. Well, now it’s 125. Yeah. And it’s hitting me, George Payeyton. Yeah. That I have 35 minutes to determine is that fourth or a third worth me not having Jaylen Wadd on my team. And I think every second that you get closer, the value of the draft pick gets less because the draft pick is um imaginary in a sense. Whereas the theme of the show today, a penguin in the hand is better than two in the bush. Okay. Okay. Y. Yep. Yep. Yep. And so I think that’s when you’re getting into the details of where penguins live and the lack of bushes there. I think there’s just a good Yes. I’m I’m champ here. Different kind of bird. Yeah, it’s not your job doesn’t know about this stuff. Yeah, I’m I’m just sitting there like, you know what? Screw the third round pick. Hell yeah. Let’s go win a Super Bowl, right? And I just think that the pressure of potentially once it’s over, it’s just over because you can never have Jaylen Wadd. I think that that pressure is uh enough to push things over the edge. I think so, too. Yeah. revisionist history. I would have liked to to give up what the Seahawks gave up for Rasheed Shahed really. He’s a he’s a separator, you know. He’s a he you have to respect that deep speed much like Wadd and he opens up space for everyone pre-nap. I’m a big pre- snap guy. Doesn’t get as much separation as Marvin. Like a separator like the person in the comments who tried to make it political after we all agreed. We all agreed. No, not like him. Okay. separator in terms of he gets separation downfield. Have you noticed that the Broncos get a lot of separation downfield? Streets are saying, but my days of going back to the All 22 have been retired. Well, that’s nice. Yeah, you’re strictly uh f you NFL plus. Yep. Strictly opposite. I guess I’m a a strictly broadcast view. It’s why again pre- snap trenches. That’s what matters to me. You guys are talking about all this fan skill player. That’s not what wins in December and January in the NFL. All you care about is O line splits. F yeah. You can say [ __ ] Are in the second hour it’s a [ __ ] free zone. Oh my god. I said that before I got clearance. I do it all the time. [ __ ] I also noticed that. Also know that was also on the notes. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Um I liked it though, frankly. And look, look, we do have it was a direct quote of a keep to leap. Okay, it’s true. We do have the GM of DNVR here. Should we do some mock media trades? Oh, no. No, we should not. Nine. Do not do that. Um, Altitude Radio has just hit our line. They’re offering their top producer for Dion and a future producer pick. No way. Okay. Deion Smith is worth more than he’s leading the Rookie of the Year race right now. That’s true. Are running away with it. Yeah. Imagine what the Jags could have gotten for Brian Thomas last year though. Exactly. Who even else is in the room for rookie of the year? Do we have other rookies on? That’s your job. Okay. There. He’s crunched the data. We’ve crunched the data. Oh my gosh. Looks as though looks as though there were eight deadline trades last year on the day. Um did you use uh AI for this? You could also do I went through all the trade records and then Googled the reports and so two of the trades came about seven hours before the deadline. One came about 6 hours before. Uh two more took were between three and four hours before. Uh one was about 90 minutes before and then there was one that was 38 minutes before. One that came through right after the buzzer. Nice. So what do you do with that data? What was the second one last? So there’s one right at the buzzer. One right at the buzzer. One 38 minutes before the buzzer. We’re past the 38 minute mark. We are. We’re at this point trade. Yeah. All I’m saying with Shahed is if you are haggling on price right now, that would have been a cheaper option for a guy who maybe is playing his best football right now and brings a lot of the same attributes that Wadd does and most importantly the most important attribute which is that deep speed and uh forcing your defense to respect that and opening up space for everyone else. To me, he’s just the same as Rasheed Shahed, but he’s just run 50% more routes because there’s more opportunities and he’s not concussed and he’s older. So, and that’s why like to me just was a little bit redundant with what you already have. Yeah. And maybe he is slightly more polished. You said he’s the same as Rasheed Shahed. I thought you were talking about Wadd. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. I think but his his NFL production would show that he’s better than Mims. Yeah. So taller. I think that maybe a little faster deep. I’m not sure about faster. I know again separation stats lean toward mess to me again like it’s that he’s run he’s run 50% more routes than Marvin. And again part of that is like good for you. You’re good enough to be on the field more. But at the same time it’s the Saints where there just isn’t competition. And so if you were to say like inflate Marvin stats to the same number of routes run, then they’re basically the same stats and he has knowledge of that offense. Does he? He Yeah, I guess he is. Yeah, there’s some overlap. Yeah. 2022. What? It’s crazy what a uh he is a little taller than Marvin. An inch and uh he is two years Oh, no. Four years older. Seven pounds heavier, too. Yeah, bigger. It’s crazy what a instant gratification society we live in these days. That’s what they’re saying. Don’t get me going on my instant gratification rant. Okay, I’m just saying like there’s still 30 minutes left and the crash out has already begun on Twitter. Like at least just wait 30 more minutes to crash out. There’s plent there’ll be plenty of time to crash out. But that’s why I’m not crashing out yet. We still got 29 minutes. George Pton’s going to get it done. You’re we’re on crash out watch though for you. You’re seven and two. you’re one move away from being like in a year where every good team in the AFC West is not good and all of the mid teams think they’re good, this is the chance to make a run. Like I I would be willing to bet that Shawn Peyton is never seven and two in his first nine games with the Broncos again. Like that’s just really hard to do. And so when you’re right here and you could Interesting. Okay. But I I just think you How could you not go get a guy, you know? How could you not go get Jaylen Waddle, who’s going to be here for a few years and would totally change the offense? But well, I’m saving my crash out for another 28 minutes. We’re just I have a feeling we’re going to hear like it just didn’t materialize and they tried and they turned over every rock and in the end it just wasn’t the the right move wasn’t there. Yeah. Yeah. Which I I could see. Well, if the Broncos don’t do anything, how long after 2 o’clock are we going because I have takes that I want to save. So, the last the last bit of news last year, the final buzzer trade was 5 minutes after. Okay, I think it might be time to get those takes off. Nope. I think we’re in the No cash out till after. Safe to assume nothing’s happening. I have a ticket at 2:00. Then we have card out 2:30. Ah, nice. Yes. What? 2:30 hard out. 2:30 was the hard out. But if we end at two, that means I can get lunch before my next show, right? I need lunch. We end at 2:30, it’s just another donut, which is just tough. No. I That’s not going to work. It’s not going to work. No. No. No. No. No. Um. Well, yeah. If nothing happened, I don’t think music for 30 minutes. that terror. That would be kind of fun. Only news I’m seeing uh since we last uh spoke, Trayon Burks signing with the Commanders. Yeah, he was already there practicing. Mhm. Now signing is official. Yeah, he was a callup. I know that not because he did anything in the game, but because he had his hand on uh Jaden Daniel’s leg when he was down on the ground, and I was like, “Oh, there’s Tayen Burks.” Right. Giving his blessings. Yes. By the way, great lesson in praying for prayer when you’re in a Super Bowl. Incredible lesson. Cuz what did the Titans do? They said, “Oh, we’ll take the picks. You can have AJ Brown. We’ll use the pick and go get Trayon Burks cuz he’s AJ Brown.” Then what do we find out? Younger and cheaper. He was younger. He was cheaper. He was not AJ Brown. No. And young and cheap and useless. Bad combo. Better than old and expensive and useless. Tough, but not as good as not as tough. Average age, expensive, and really good. Oh, no. That they were in a Super Bowl window, though. No, the Eagles. They pulled the trigger. So, they traded it instead of saying, “Hey, we could have this first and go get ourselves Trayon Burke.” How he is addicted to They’ve now gone to two Super Bowls with AJ, right? Yes. One, one, two. I don’t know. That’d be the end of the world. It’s not what you need is just more multiplicity on offense. So, you know, crappy tight ends and uh the O line concerns me. The O line concerns me. You guys want to talk about Tom Brady cloning his dog. I saw that. That was fun. Yeah. No, that’s just somebody who struggles with the idea of death. Like that guy’s that guy is all messed up in the head from everything he’s been through. Yeah. Yeah. So, in case you ain’t here, Tom Brady’s dog died, so he cloned it cuz he just wanted the same dog. Isn’t that a good move, though? No. No. No. I think it’s a great move. No. You have to You got to learn that lesson. Like, dogs die. If you love something, let it go, right? Not just like we’re going to try to bring you back. You just clone it and more or less have the same dog in perpetuity. That’s the dream. I think there’s something deeper going on in his head. Why? There’s something wrong in his head. They’re just animals. Yeah, exactly. And they die. And like if you can’t, it’s time for a new dog. It’s not like we’re trying to have conversations. I know you have like a like a young child. Yeah. But like this isn’t like, oh, their teddy bear is missing. I’ll just buy them the exact same one in place. Like Oh, I think kind of for Tom Brady. Yeah. That’s weird. It’s weird as hell. It’s weird. Weirder than Kiss the Kids. Do you have pets? Have you had pets in your life? Two cats. Could you imagine own them? Yeah. Sounds kind of cool. Like scientifically, yes. But I think the bond that you just like build with an animal cannot be replicated. Obviously, I’m the one in my household who really warns against excessive spending. So, if I had Tom Brady money, all for it. Andrea Simon, the reality I’m living Simon. Simon, stop it. I would be the first to be like, “No, we just need another rescue cat. We’re not going to Well, yeah. And then you rescue a cat. We’re not going to clone Gallo or Mo or You almost had to clone Gallow. Rest in peace one time. Gallow almost still getting shots up. He’s doing great, man. He’s really doing great. He’s in a snuggly phase, which maybe means something. Would not be good for my allergies. Um, no. Are there questions? Do you guys do questions? Might as well. Sure. Do we have any? Oh boy. One popular question I’ve seen is are the Broncos going to do anything? There’s a question. I’m going I’m going to officially change my answer. I’m now leaning toward I don’t think they will. Early crash. It’s not It’s not No, this isn’t a crash. It’s just It’s just a change of the prediction. Yeah, I think that sounds right. Yeah, I mean to the people team people preparing to crash out right now. Would you have been like satiated for your new bloodthirst uh if the Broncos traded for like Packers tight end Luke Musgrave? Dude, I don’t care. Sick. I’d be all in on Luke Musgrave. Uh Big Ms. We got another question from Colby. What do you guys think about politics? Oh, we just love Paul. That’s a good question. The only thing I care about is politics. Politics. That’s my politics. This is politics in a sense. Trade deadline stuff. Jacob, I don’t see it. Since the big insiders say the Broncos are looking to make a big splash, what do we think of them some if something doesn’t happen? So, are we talking about the insiders or are we talking about the Broncos? So, we can do both. We have time. I think that if you are trying to make a big splash, like I said earlier, if you’re swinging for the fences, there’s always a chance that you don’t hit the ball, right? And if you’re just looking to make a trade and you want to get someone to fill in a roster spot, you can make that happen. But if the Broncos are going into this like we’re only making a trade if we find someone who we believe gets them gets us significantly closer to winning a Super Bowl, where there’s a chance that it just doesn’t happen. Like the Dolphins don’t want to not have Jaylen Wadd, right? They want to have the Jets are going all in to try and build up picks so they can get their next quarterback. You don’t think they want to have Garrett Wilson there when he gets there? Yeah. So, you have to it’s a negotiation. And so, I think there’s just always the chance that the Broncos are saying like, “Okay, well, we’re not going to be held over the coals because we’re not desperate. Mhm. U we would like to add one of these players, but we’re not just going to succumb to whatever price we have to pay and that’s doing good business. Yeah. Then as far as the insiders are concerned, you played them like a fiddle. Good for you. I think Sean would be proudest of that. I don’t think Yeah. Well, I don’t even think you played them like a fiddle necessarily. The the reports have just been sleep on the Broncos trying to make a big splash. Like it could very well be possible. We’re sleeping all right. We’re starting to get close to some sleep. I’m getting sleepy. I am actually I think the sugar got me coffee. Yeah, I actually brought a vibes nana. I felt like you guys might need it. So if you guys need me to unccort my vibes nana, I think I’m happy to do that. Yeah, I think we might be about vibes nana. Calling on the vibes. Okay, I’m happy to do it. No problem. No lunch, only donuts. So I think it it’ do me good. Send a tweet in Broncos. Oh, a tweet. About to send a tweet in Broncos is the update we’re getting upstairs. This would be the most antilimactic way to break news. Could you guys speak while I take a bite of the Vibes Nano? We could. Could you not? Sorry, bad timing. What would have been the point of the Vibes Nano if to not uncor for better knives and take a bite? I’ll take a bite from the other side with the Broncos man. Oh, no. I I’m not trying to share my Vibes Nana. No way. Yeah. Jordan Schultz saying that the the Jets aren’t trading uh Garrett Wilson. I think some other people have said that as well. Famously known as Gary Wily. He would have fit perfect. Yeah, that’s exactly right. It’s a great nicity right there. Um not to be confused with Gary Buucy. I I like the I like these wide receivers. I like these young wide receivers. Receiver never felt like a big I like them as well. As you guys are telling me, they get separation. So that’s not the issue in this. No, it’s that your quarterback leads the NFL in overthrows. But again, Jaylen Wadd, he’s fast. He can. That’s not how you fix over. I’d probably not. That really is not how you fix. I It’s tougher to overthrow. To be that guy. He’s tougher to overthrow. Not how you fix an overthrow. No, I usually don’t acknowledge when people are being mean in the comments, but the comment that said, “Bring back Zack. The dude in the middle is weird.” is really a great we need to frame it. And I too would like to bring back Zach. Zach is doing what the kids say the Lord’s work right now. Is that what they call the Lord’s work? They left it left the uh parliament. Yeah, they just say 67. They love that for them. That’s really great. That’s what I would trade though. A six or a seven. Zach is going to find out from Are they gonna talk to uh both Payton? They didn’t have it on the schedule, but who’s to say Payton and Payton day? Yeah. If they don’t trade, it’s only one P. It’s a single P. How much money Zach to say Mr. Payton’s Penguins? And just leave it at that. Uh I don’t I wouldn’t want him to do that. Yeah. Wow. Chefy tweeting out, “Eigles AJ Brown has not been and will not be traded by today’s deadline.” Okay, another great example of going all in on a Super Bowl window is the Commandos, though. Old, they’ve built the oldest team in the NFL around Jaden. I almost called him McDaniels. Might as well hit this super chat. Say Jaden Rashada for a second. Sacramento State’s Jaden Rashad. Shout out those clowns. That’s where he is. Oh, we have we have a bunch of these. What the hell? Um Jay, Milzo Gaming. Hell yeah. This makes me so mad. Why aren’t we doing anything? Because we’re playing for 2026. Um or there just wasn’t a great trade. I mean, you might love Garrett Wilson and Jaylen Wadd, but Shawn doesn’t. They don’t. It takes two to tango famously. They love to say that today. It’s a big day for two tango. And sometimes, well, and the crazy thing is sometimes you see a trade where there’s three tangoing, but you never see three dancers tangoing, right? It takes three to Well, how would you know? You’re not tango expert. We would have heard. What’s the dance where you like lock arms and then you swing around each other and you lock arms with someone else? Circle dance. It definitely happens at a hoown. How the [ __ ] do you think we would know that? I don’t know. But it does take three to do that. It does do that cuz you can’t sing around and might take four. Well, but what if they they they don’t feel the need for a wide receiver like we do. And then as you were pointing out, there’s no tight ends that really fit the bill. Then I would say as Yeah, it’s I mean it’s it’s the rapid running back. It’s all just it’s all just young receivers. You just have to live with it. Like well and a vet. Young receivers. you’ve got one, but as you’re saying, like you haven’t gone to a game this season where your number two receiver is better than the other team’s number two receiver. And that’s why like if you’re if you’re sitting here at seven and two trying to upgrade, it’s one spot you could look at and say receivers get traded a lot. There are some guys out there that are a lot easier to to pin down than some of the tight ends. And so you could try to make that upgrade. But again, like these receivers next year will be better than they are this year. The year after will be better than that. Like they’re choosing the organic growth. It’s just that we were sitting here at seven and two, tied for the best record in the AFC. A little bit of What about special teams? The Bandyman didn’t hit the trade for Trayvon Smith. Yeah, I’m down. Yeah, right. All right. So, uh, here’s a tweet from Zack Stevens, a guy. Oh. Uh, stop me when you hear a lie. All right. It’s a long list of things that the Colts have. Okay. Stop me when you hear a lie. Colts have the best cornerback in football. Lie. Ah, dang. Didn’t even make it past the first line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He goes on to say Colts have the best running back in football. Potentially true. Yeah. Colts have the best O. I don’t know if that’s singular or as a unit. I think that might be right. Colts have the best wide receiver tight end room. That’s definitely not right. No, cuz that would be also two different rooms famously. Bucks are hurt. Now he’s being sneaky because he’s comboing the two. Maybe Eagles. So there might be better wide receiver rooms. There might be better tight end rooms. The best combo. Maybe. Maybe like Bengals. Colts have an elite franchise QB. Uh that’s a lie, right? Colts have an elite head coach to be seen. He’s doing well. He’s doing well. To be seen. Then he finishes with laugh. Laugh all you want. They’re going to end the Chiefs dynasty. That part could be true. This might just happen in the first round. Great owner as well. The other thing you got to understand about the Colts, that’s a front office that has kind of sp remember when we’d spin the wheels on the tailgate. That wheel over there. Yeah. Still with our writing on would have thought that be used. They’ve spun the wheel a lot. I mean, the the front off the the GM is the gentleman who traded up and drafted for Anthony Richardson. He was he was on on life support coming into this season. Yeah, he was telling you know private private combos at night pillow talk with the wife was you might you might want to look at you know what the market is for this house. Oh for the house. You know I thought you were suggesting I don’t I don’t know how much longer we’ll be. Okay. That’s Chris Ballard. Sure. Sure. I’m I’m famously bad with names. Um so they there there was screening. I said circle. I was like what? But it’s much more it’s much more of a circle than a square. Exactly. You can’t dance in a square. There was some urgency for the Colts. Yeah. And now he’s just said he he just screwed over the next GM if he there was one% what I would do. The future picks. Yeah. Yeah. And you know he’s living on a prayer that Daniel Jones this is not a mirage but a reality. Well Sam Darnold going back to back. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. All right let’s get to the next one. 45 DK Danish something. Yeah, Broncos are not in that situation. Danish crowns. There you go. He put it in there for us. Thank you. That’s sick. And he said, “You’re welcome, RK.” He knew exactly what I was going to be thinking. 45 quite predictable. Smash the like button. So close to 500. Thanks for the best pot out there. The great Dane. Yeah, we could get to 690. That’d be sick. 670. 670. That’d go hard. 670 would go hard. 70 for mile high sing overthrows. What about third in the league in drops? No, it really is the combination of the two again because yeah, you’re third in the league in drops. You’re you have you what your 40 overthrows, which is the most in the NFL. Jesus. If you just go like total missed passes, it’s second again. Like he’s thrown the fourth most passes in the NFL, so you’d expect him to be up there. But no, when you combine missed throws with drops, you wind up with uh one of the highest three and out rates in the NFL. Before we get to the next super chat, can I vent about something? But the problems first and second down. Yeah, the answer was no. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Throw throw Let’s throw to RK. My new biggest Twitter pet peeve. Hell yeah. Oh, is reporters quote tweeting team announcements. Nice. Saying officially official. Yeah. Yeah. The phrase officially official. The bottom of the barrel post. The first post. I’ll throw the word utilize out there. I haven’t talked about this recently. It’s literally the exact same word as use. It’s one of those it was like we spent a day on it back in college where it’s just like if you use if you utilize the word utilize. You’re just using it to sound smart. It’s the same word. It’s just a waste of space, waste of syllables. Be a real person. Just say use. I will say sometimes you do need to say things to sound smart. You need to dress up a little. Yeah. Yeah. We’re we’re plenty informal. Have you ever seen that clip of Stephen A. Smith talking about how he was fooled. Yeah. Seen that clip. Bamboozled. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are great. You could just say I I’ve been tricked, but it’s way better if you say you were hood. Use the word utilize though. I just Anyway, I’m against it. Utilizing the phrase officially official drives all of us crazy. It’s I mean it should be banned. If you wore pants more often, maybe you would we wouldn’t have to dress up. Who the hell is this in the chat just saying Pigsby over and over again? Can we figure this out? Pigsby. Pigsby. Pigsby. Pigsby. Pigs. What the hell is this? An O line. I don’t know. Who is Pigsby? I don’t know. If he’s an O lineman, sign me up though. That’s a great name, right? Pig in the name. Maybe Pigsby has a pet pig, right? Pigs. That’d be a great thing. Texas leans out. You’re saying Pigsby. Now, quick sidebar. There’s a a a scroll up. Show these guys what’s I see the pigs bees. No, you have that’s not even the beginning of them. I see it. Took Henry out. Pigsby. Pigsby. Pigsby. It’s great. I mean, he’s he’s doing the Lord’s work. So, one of the college football’s leaders in tackles for a loss. Gideon ESPN lamp. ESPN’s in this guy’s name. His name is ESPN. ESPN. Yeah. Yeah. Did you find me something on Pigsby or not? Oh, you want I was the research guy for that one. Okay, I’ll I’ll start. Pigsby NFL. Let’s see what comes up. Okay. Tank Tank Bsby. This was about Tank Bixby does in fact come up. Doesn’t miss. No. Pigsby, dude. Tank Pigsby. Pixby. I mean, he’s a legend. He’s going to get us to 670. This would not be that. Look at that. We had over the whole chat. I know. Pigsby. Pigby pig. Honestly, I want to get on the chat and super chat pigs. I want to super chat pigs to us as well. Oh my god, dude. We need to We need a emoji. We needed that. What the hell is this? That was a good precrashout laugh, right? No, this is the fun. It’s ridiculous. Keep coming cuz I doesn’t feel like it’s happening, guys. Oh my god. Shout out VB. Damn. All that sugar for Henry during the break just really set this thing for a loop. Pigs beats. I’m sure they’re all really Let’s get these before the deadline. Mile High Sing says, “Can’t blame Bo when your wide receivers are third and drops.” True. That needs to be better. Yeah, Pigsby. Um that’s why people wanted a wide a wide receiver. Yeah. from Allen. Uh, if Bo becomes more consistent with the deep throws, one of our young wide receivers will become elite. Guys are open. Broncos will be fine if healthy. I’m I would love to say that uh Troy Franklin is my guy, but he’s Henry’s guy. True. No, I I was before anyone. He can only be one guy’s guy and he is literally my guy. I bought all of his stock. He’s still not my guy. In that draft, I claimed him years ago. It’s on record. Yeah, you missed out in the draft. He never invited me, much like you on the draft pant. I was claiming Troy Franklin years ago. Important super chat from Stephen here who says Pigsby. Yeah. And then another one from Blake who says, “Pigsby.” Those are pretty insightful. Another one from Wyoming Cowboy. Well, this one’s interesting. It says Pigsby. Yeah, Pigsby. Pigsby. What are the emojis? It’s It’s from Cody who says it’s Oh, with bees. Pigs. Pigs and bees. Is that the Oh, right. There’s the bees at the end. That’s sick. That’s sick. You guys are on one today. Keep rising. 615. Remember, we’re trying to get to 670. 670. Um, pigs. The number of pigs bees just unbelievable. This is going to do wonders for our uh for the algorithm. Yes. For the algorithm. Like this is as far up as I can scroll, but pigs. Pigs. Pigsby. Pigsby. It’s all Pigsby. The algorithm thinks that something big just happened. Biggest winner if the Broncos don’t make a trade. Biggest winner of the Broncos not making a trade is Troy Franklin. Nice. Yeah. And like why is more than like any of the other young wide routes? Well, because I think he’s in spirit wide receiver too right now. Mhm. And so, uh, you bring in Jaylen Wadd, well, he becomes wide receiver three, and there’s a big gap there. Like everything that everyone was saying early in the season about like, you don’t take Courtland Sutton off the field, just keep him out there, stop with all this [ __ ] uh, in-n-out [ __ ] Oh my gosh. They’ll be saying that about Jaylen Wadd, too. And they would probably be right. Right. So you you’re I mean if you were using things properly like Troy Franklin snap count would go down significantly. Here’s what I’ll say. I love Troy famously. He’s my guy. Well, he also has no business leading an NFL team. 666. That’s awesome. There we go. I mean, wait. You can’t see. We were not talking politics. We’re not talking politics. We denounce Satan. We don’t talk politics. Um that’s I don’t think that’s politics. So, as as you know, Troy Troy is my guy. Troy has no business this season leading an NFL team in targets, you know, like that should be somebody else. But yeah, throw the ball. He will do a lot for his development if he does. Yeah, reps. Have you ever heard of reps? I’ve heard of reps. That’s sick. Half season reps, half season better player. That’s really good. Seems like it’s fair. Um, all right. We got five minutes. Yeah, we’re getting ready for the crash. Now, now we did have another super chat. Um, and here’s the question. Uh, it’s from Noah Craft who says, “Y’all think we Yes. Y’all think we traded for Pigsby?” Indeed, we did trade for Pigsby. Pigsby. Yeah, I doubt it. I It must be talking. He must want Tank Bsby. Streets are saying Pigsby, right? I mean, Tank Bsby is being criminally underutilized, right? streets are saying. Um, but I thought Zach made a good point on the running backs, you know. Yeah. Using counting stats, which pissed me off. But I thought besides that, it was a good point. Stats guy. Never have been. Duh. You know, you know this about Yeah, that’s true. You would hate that I’m a QB wins guy then. But what’s surprising? Let’s go. Do we still want 690 or should we just here? Uh, there’s no way we’re landing right on the number. Okay. Okay. Speaking of counting stats, why is everyone convinced that the wide receivers do get separation? Uh, is there a counting stat? The graphs. Marvin Ms. Oh, those are really official. Marvin Mims against man coverage gets the most separation in the NFL. Ah, gotcha. And that’s from the Bureau of Statistics. Bureau of See, that’s why you hate counting. It’s not just some Pigsby stuff you’re see just some sloppier seat. I just say throw all the stats out altogether. Football isn’t a stat sport. Football’s a grown man sport. Baseball is a stat sport. Basketball’s a stat sport. Kind of is. Yeah. No, you’re right. What you’re saying is correct. So, it’s okay. Also, likes accounting stats. It’s the heart of a man. Well, that we views accounting stats. Not to be confused with accounting stats. He’s doing the don’t she do that to us. What did we do? Those accounting stats matter, but that’s not football. Oh, that’s You’re talking like a linebacker now. Tackles do matter. Yeah. Well, yeah. Doesn’t matter how many snaps I’m out there. More likes or pigs bees? More likes or pigs? That’s a good question. It’s got to be the Pigs. Yeah, Pigs. Probably. If you keep this going tomorrow on the show with Zack, he’s going to lost. He would be clueless. Also, then if you threw a bunny on the Pixie forever. Pigby is forever. Again though, I could see him like I could see him being an undrafted Otackle from Auburn who maybe like transferred out of incarnate Ward, played a year at You’re thinking of Cam Ward who started his career at Incarnate Word. But I thought it was it was Ward as well that I thought that was the uh we’re we’re referring to like the Incarnate Word. I thought he was a big alliteration guy. That’s why he went there in the first place. No, not an alliteration guy. I bet you someone made a shirt though that said it. Cam Horde famously lost me a lot of money in college football. Um Right. Washington State and Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Uh so never never was a fan, but I could see that being a utility O lineman on a practice squad. Pigsby. Hey, we got Oh, [Laughter] that’s me panicked about Pigsby. Panic. Um, I don’t want to get anybody excited because this is not exciting. Um, but there was a trade. Oh. Um, Saints trade. Former Shawn Payeyton first round drafted Olineman. This is huge. Wow. It’s not to the Broncos to be clear. Got it. There just I tried really I came into this trying to make it I didn’t want him good. It’s Trevor Penning going to the Chargers which Trevor Penning in spirit might go by. Honest, Trevor Pigsby. Trevor Penning. Speaking of Pigsby and Penning, it would have been Trevor Penning famous famously was eating at a barbecue restaurant in Frisco, Texas when the Buff Show was there eating pig. Wow. So, we said good luck to him this season. That’s crazy. Uh, where’s he going? I think you know what we should do? Chargers. Oh, you know how they lost both their offensive tackles. Getting another one. About 30 seconds. It’s going to be 2:00, which means Zach is going to send a tweet that says like, “It’s officially the trade deadline.” Everybody respond to it just by saying Pigsby. Oh, that would Everyone respond to Zach saying Pigsby. He’s going to say like, “It’s officially the deadline.” The deadline has passed. The deadline has passed. It’s I mean, it’s got to be out now. KSB saying as much. He’s saying as much. Pigsby. No. No. He’s saying the trade deadline has now passed. All right. Come on, Zach. Send the tweet. Pigsby. He didn’t schedule this. That’s crazy. That is kind of surprising. Stevens saying this team pressure pressure instinct grit grit strategy balance yards yards aka pigsby pigsby honestly print the shirts we would have to explain so much to Dline for him to and he would honestly he would hate the pigs a ton to explain it’s just the chat was spamming pig sometimes that’s harder to explain conspiracy theory Zach on the phone right now getting trade scoop that’s why he can’t tweet The trade deadline has passed, right? Dang. And the trade deadline has not officially passed until Zach Stevens tweets it. That is true. We are getting from Mononttoya SLC asking, “How does Pigsby affect our Super Bowl odds?” Geez, tough to say, Ryan. I think they would get shorter. Well, I think they would get shorter. Unfortunately, it hurts. No. Yeah, he does. Zach Stevens No. Oh, okay. Um, the trade deadline has not passed. Zach has not tweeted it. Rusty Cleveland, which is a name I love. Uh, super chatting $5. Thank you, Rusty. We really appreciate it. Z Stevens or Stevens, as we call Steven um said he reads every com. Well, he reads everyone on the post show. You shouldn’t tell people. So, as soon as this show ends, just put just spam Pigsby. Pigsby pigs in the post show comments. Dylan Warren and bring it back tomorrow, too, cuz I want to see. Thank you for the 499, Dylan. Much love to you. If we traded for a wide receiver, a part of me would be sad for Mims Franklin and Bryant. Our offense is showing heart. Do you really mess with I agree. I agree. That’s what this whole counting stat convo is about. It It’s about heart football. It’s not about counting. Ake out vibes taked me. Like he had the don’t make a trade. It could mess up the vibes take. Yeah, that’s supposed to be me, right? Right. And that’s from coming from a key. Yeah, he knows, right? He knows vibes. He does know vibes. Zach tweeted over vibes. It’s over. Um, okay. Well, the floor is yours. According to Zack Stevens, from his understanding, yes, they looked into making moves but didn’t force anything. There you go. You don’t want to force things, man. That’s how you There’s already 21 responses. It’s been 20 minutes. It’s all pigs. No. Oh my god. If it wasn’t for Pigsby, what would we have? Pigs. Pigs is incredible. It’s a pig in a What must he be wondering? He’s got to be so close. Oh, man. Oh, that’s great. Oh, that’s even funnier to me than the first time. Oh, it’s I feel bad. I’m crashing out less because of the pigs. The pigs be really It’s turning everything around. Otherwise, a very sleepy trade deadline day for right. Who needs Jaylen Waddle when you can have Pigsby? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. They just go 130 comments. It’s all Pigsby. Stop it. It’s hardly been up for 130 seconds. Pigs. Wow. Wow. I’m with you, Trent Harris. It all started with Andrew just saying, “Pigsby, Pigsby, Pigsby, dude.” which who knows what that was even about. But you shine light on that. Take credit. Oh, and he’s now slacking. What did I miss in the last hour? But yeah, that message from Zack. What did I miss in the last hour? Oh my god. I think that’s the most We do have left on a show. Another trade coming through for a team uh high in the AFC standings. The Patriots have signed Brendan Rice. Oh, shout out. Which of course then oh the son of hall of famer J like no former former Colorado Buffalo had a punt return touchdown against Utah get it straight. Yeah. Holy [ __ ] Up to 200 pixies in two minutes. So Zach is noticing. It’s pretty amazing. You guys are doing phenomenal buried in pigs. Yes. It is unfortunate that Pigsby had made it to the slack. So then he got some sort of I know I know context there. He’s a pigs be in a blanket, you could say. Pigs pigs calls for Jaylen Wadd and Bradley Chub. The Dolphins did not make another deal before the deadline and opted to hold on to both. That’s from Adam Shfter for Waddle. They mentioned Wadd and Chub. Yes. God, that sucks. Um, all right. Here’s my George Payton take. Nice. Is George Payton potentially a little trigger shy when it comes to trading first round picks after the last time he did that? Yeah. Can’t blame. Could be. But like if you have a quarterback who’s afraid to stand in the pocket because he keeps getting hit, don’t you just like got to bench him. You’re not understanding the metaphor. Quarterback. No. No. George Payton is the quarterback. He’s in the pocket. He’s seeing ghosts. He’s okay. Like maybe just sit him down for a second. Let Shawn Peyton make the calls. Yeah. Could be. Could be. I bet Shawn would have liked that Trevor Penning uh trade. They seem to like their guys. They seem to like their guys. I love Troy Franklin. This is Troy Franklin is the winner of the deadline for the Broncos. Yep. Yep. Yep. He just has to get a little bit better when it comes to contested catches. Um especially on the sidelines and he could be that guy for the Broncos. Yeah. No, I mean he he could be and he’s had his moments. Um but this is big for him. It’s big for Pat Bryant. Um, it’s big for Mims. Uh, it’s just again like the the bar is different. Like the bar for looking good in your second year or Pat Bryan’s case is first year. It it the bar to look good is a little bit lower than the bar for we are a Super Bowl contender and we want Super Bowl contender caliber receiver play. Like that might be something you know Troy Franklin being 22 years old. He might be five years from his prime, which is a good thing for the Broncos going forward, but it just means, you know, you’re you’re going into these playoffs very young at some very important positions when you had your chance to say like, “Okay, we got our one big guy and now we can we have a little bit more security on offense.” The graphs are saying the wide receivers are getting open. The graph says he is. Yes, Marvin is. And you wonder how many Troy, right? Troy is not like in the elite category. I would have to find the graph. Oh yeah, go to the Bureau of Statistics. Thank you. You have that graph generator. I do. I do. Right. Which, by the way, Wow. in-house graph generator. I mean, I’m not even I’m probably 200 IQ points away from being able to figure out how to use that thing. I made a little uh quarterback fourth quarter EPA passer rating graph. Bonix. How long did it take you? I’m not going to say. Okay, I’m going to leave that to the imagination cuz ballpark. Super quick. I was super quick with it. Didn’t struggle to put their faces on. 200 pigs bees in Zach’s replies or longer. Uh longer than that. I will say longer than that. I went in there. I was trying to make some uh I wanted like a Riley Moss stat to back me up. I think Henry’s using Boy, did I fail. Yeah. Yeah. You guys You guys don’t have what what I’ve got. Um, is is that the extent of your crash out? Um, I feel like we built it up. This is all we’re getting. That’s pretty disappointing. I was ready for today to be the day where I say like, okay, Broncos Super Bowl contenders. When when push comes to shove, they’re going to be right in it. And what we see is that they again, they like what they have. And how could you not like what they have? They’re one of the they are one of the best teams in the NFL for sure. It’s just and real young on offense, though. Yeah. which means it’s great news for 2028, but you’re seven and two. We I just I Could it be great news for the second half of the season where these guys have slowly started to emerge? I will confidently say and hope that I’m wrong. None of them is going to be better than Jaylen Wadd by the end of the year. But, you know, it’s a good team. You’re seven and two. just all all the improvement from this offense that we need to see for them to have like a real chance in the playoffs has to be internal which is more sustainable. It just would have been really nice to find like the quick little fix that comes in and look now now we have now we have this reason to believe that this offense will be able to do some of the things hasn’t been able to do. You want the big guy and the quick little fix. Hey big guy. Big guy. I have just made an unbelievable discovery. So we are so we I we should not be allowed on the airwaves together. The three of us is the lack of structure. It’s like we are allergic. We play outside of the structure. We do offscript crew. Right. Right. What kind of quarterback would you compare us to most? Um just like a better Patrick Mahomes like postc career Brett Favre. Jets Brett Favre. That’s how out of structure. Post career Brett Favre. I was going to go out of structure to that’s out of structure. So now we’re just like stealing from the needy pretty much. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Um that’s what Pixby is in a sense. You came for football and we gave you Pixby. That’s Brett Favre embezzling Mississippi children. I don’t know if that’s still a legend, but let’s say a legend for the purposes of our show. Okay. So some backstory here. Okay. Sick. I love Las Vegas. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Vegas rules Vegas. Never been a slots guy. Nah. But there is one slots game that I will play. That’s a quick little fix game. It’s not a big guy game. Exactly. Yeah. No brain involved. I like to feel like I’m beating someone or something. Um Okay. But so there is one I I play because it’s never done me wrong. We don’t condone violence. Now that game’s name is called Rich Little Piggies. I love Rich Little Piggies. Rich Little Piggies is amazing. It is. But I have just come across an unbelievable discovery. There is a slot machine called the Great Pigsby. Okay. And it’s a great Gatsby themed pig themed slot machine game. And I just I I need to get to Vegas immediately. Is there any chance you have one Ryan was putting out there? Is there a chance there’s one up in Blackhawk? Probably not. Let me find out. No, forget. If there is, I’m going tonight. We’ll advertise Vegas, though. We’re going tonight. I mean, the sounds like the local economy needs it. Um I guess I don’t have any film rooms to write tonight. More more super chats, please. Isn’t that good though, Henry? What? Write a super chat on the guys they kept, not the guys they h they traded for. It would have been really fun to do the Jaylen Waddle breakdown. I know. We all, you know, I think he said I think I I need to do my instant gratification rant. I think he’s setting me up. I just I’m here for Super Bowls, not playoff appearances. You guys want instant gratification rant or review of playing the great Pigsby slot experience? Jeez, that’s a tough decision. review of the Pixby slot experience for sure. All right. Well, here goes nothing. Sometimes an older game can surprise you. I’m not going down that road. That’s probably for the best. Nobody wants the Great Pixby at the nearest convenience. Yeah, no doubt. I look forward to that. I don’t even know where you figure out where there where that is. I Googled it. It doesn’t look like it’s available in Blackhawk, but if it w if someone wants to make a call, right? Yeah. I’ll be there so fast. All right, so there are some super tying a bow on this. The Broncos didn’t make a trade. Why? Because they did not want to get desperate. They are confident in their roster. And how could they not be? They’re seven and two. They’re in first place in their division and they are finding ways to win every which way every single week. When you go to the trade deadline, you look and you say, “Can we improve our team?” The answer is yes. You say, “Okay, at what cost?” And I think they got all the way to the at what cost part of this trade deadline and decided we are not desperate enough to improve at presumably the wide receiver position to need to give up multiple top 100 picks. Um, and potentially a young player as well. That’ be my best. I would guess the price was something like a first round pick in Troy Franklin. Yes. And so when left with that debate, the Broncos said, “We’re not that desperate. We don’t need this that bad.” Now, we’re not that guy. What’s kind of crazy is you you might be able to tell me that if the Broncos ended with 15 points on Sunday and the Texans ended with 18. Yes. They might have said like, “You know what? We do need to make this move.” Yeah. But because they keep finding ways to win, I think the Broncos said, “We’re going to keep our cards in our hands and play this hand until we die.” And you kind of have to respect that. You kind of do. I They’re a good team. It just if we were going in the second half of the season with one more weapon, it would have been really easy to say like, “Why not? Why can’t they be that?” But now, again, you just have All the improvement needs to come from inside and that passing great game just needs a lot of improvement. It’s also the double opportunity cost of you’re not just giving up picks, you’re also sacrificing future cap and future cap is kind of huge in how you build this team going forward. We saw three massive free free agent signings for the Broncos dominate that game against the Texans and Zack Allen, Dre Greenlaw, and Taleno Hufanga. um and the young guys starting to emerge and I think at the end of the day they didn’t want to sacrifice draft capital and future cap right also finally found my stats. So Marvin Mim’s actually 17th now in average separation. Um but he has run more routes than anybody in front of him. So like some of them are like eight routes for Tim Jones. Who else? You should have a qualifier of no more than like again who’s making these charts. Everybody makes charts now. Yeah. Well, that should tell you something on the validity of those charts. Yeah. Pigs is making the charts. Pigs is making the charts now. It’s again takes to tango. It does. Three to square dance. Draft season will be more fun. Draft season will be more fun. Yeah. But that’s the other not getting the waddle. The one thing you do have to kind of live with here is the Broncos. You can’t say the Broncos are all in. You know who’s actually number one in average separation? No doubt. Shahed. Here’s a hint. Six routes this season. Pigsby. That doesn’t even No, it does. Oh, is that even He’s a Denver Broncos. Six routes this season. Adam Troutman. Nope. 8.1 yards per se of separation on average. The Bandyman. The Bandyman. Number one in the NFL. Stop it. edging out John Mechy with his 14 rounds. That tells you the validity of these charts. Banners get a lot of separation. Yeah. Well, and the big thing for Marvin is that it’s not consistent separation. It’s like, oh, you you’re 20 yards past this guy. That obviously helps an average. What’s the median separation would be a good question. Yeah. I don’t have the answer. It would. It would. All these That’s Henry median chism right there. This guy loves a median. Yep. Yep. That’s right. Love a median. All right, Andre. Do you have a final take? They’re building it right and the draft the draft pod goes on. I want to build it wrong. Here’s what I’ll say. I’ll tell you the draft pod was really tough for those two years when they traded all those picks for Russell Wilson. Yeah. I’m happy I don’t have to go through that again. The sun never stops shining during a Denver Broncos winning streak. And we cannot allow this, you know, a slight disappointment for what could have been really fun today. We cannot allow this to create overcast skies. Yep. Keep the vibes high. Raiders, you’re next. Two days. Let’s flush this and move on. Maybe Michael Bandy’s your deadline acquisition. Don’t let a pigs be in the room derail you, right? As they say famously, right? Yep. Super chat. Let’s You need to go get lunch and I can do the super chat solo. No, let’s do the super chats. Not that I don’t want to do it, it’s just that I am hungry. Hayden B. Colts up their D 10 times. Wow. Wonder at all. They just don’t pay us enough to tell you about them. Yep. All right. Uh, I think that’s an exaggeration. Also, Wilding. Um, usually guys do that. Good point. All right. Chandler Wilding. Uh, Broncos or Chief Skates. All both Payton care about are holding hoarding draft picks. So disappointed. That doesn’t sound like one of the Payton. Sounds like the other. You cannot make that case about Shawn Peyton. Maybe you have one of the Payton’s in the wrong box there. Harding draft picks is good though. And the other guy. It’s a great way to build a team. It can be. It can be. Paul Rundle. You know who drafted really well and hoarded draft picks? The Philadelphia Eagles. Yep. Yep. City Seahawks. How are they doing? Uh they well they got the ultimate cheat code, the best quarterback in the NFL, right? Right. Yep. Samed picks. How about the Vikings having Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones on their roster last year? I know McCarthy. Those Vikings fans are in shambles. Oh yeah, Paul Rundle. $2. Lady in the Sheets. Oh, sorry. Lady in the streets or Pigsby in the Sheets. Thank you, Paul. Uh Wilson the Ghost a bed bug. Oh, those damn bugs. Anyone that thought we’d make a trade was smoking on that op pack. Hell yeah. Hashtag believe. Payton and Payton. Thank you. Wilson the ghost. Pigsby. I’d say uh Briggsen Winfrey. Scott Pigsby Winfrey is how he’s to some. Late first and late third instead of Wadd’s BS. Yep. That would have been a bargain. Who knows? Maybe they’re saying no. They’re saying right. They’re saying they say it’s overpay. They didn’t want to they didn’t want to trade him in. I wanted to Rusty Cleveland, our guy. A name that Dre loves and knows well. That’s a good name. We still won today with Meyers being traded. Yep, the Raiders did get worse. It makes Thursday a little bit easier. I had a win either way. Facts. Knock on wood. I should have brought that up when uh Zach mentioned Riley Moss not practicing in the imaginary practice yesterday. Yeah. Yep. That was fun. Really going to suck in that Imaginary game. I had no notes on that one. No notes. All right, y’all. That’s sarcastic. This was fun. We appreciate you. Thank you for tuning in. Shout out Hank. Shout out Zack. Shout out Dre. Shout out D. Of course, shout out Pigsby. God bless Boon Knicks. [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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22 comments
Pigsby
This pod was kinda like quarters 1-3 of Broncos offense Sunday. lol. 😂 off the rails
Ask Zach tomorrow what he thinks about Taco Bell’s pigsby enchiladas.
This idea the Broncos couldn’t use a WR1 rn is ludicrous
Nada is going to happen!!! Typical!
This had to be boring
Sean wants to prove a point with the younger guys they have. That plan will backfire against teams like the Ravens & Chiefs 🗑️
Came for the Broncos talk, stayed for the Pigsby
Im not sure Denver needs a tade. They do however need to figure out if Payton needs play calling duty stripped from him or if Bo needs replaced. This offense is a hard watch and it simply puts a hardcap on how far this team is going this year.
I haven't yet watched the video, but I'm chuckling at the idea of watching a live reaction to nothing happening 😂
Respectfully the Broncos front office is operating like they’re gonna lose the next 10 games if we trade. Insanely disappointed in this front office
I think we should stay pat
Who the hell cares about baseball right now??
What happened to Zac. did I miss something?
Watching this after the fact wasn't the most fun. I can't say I agreed with Zac and Ryan's acceptance of no trade, although I'm aware the Broncos would've made calls and just didn't want to part with the assets.
Excited about the potential of this Pigsby move!
Cant watch this knowing we didnt do shit. Lol
I got here late but what y'all mean the colts just ahead of everyone they 7-2 with us and new England with buffalo right behind them and chargers its def a race guys colts ain't just running away with the AFC
Whoever called Dre weird, you are right but also Dre is GOATed
I love this community. Pigsby brought a tear to my eye.
Pigsby
Pigsby forever goated