Is Kyler Murray Done With Cardinals? | Pat McAfee Show

It’s basically been announced now Jacobe Brassette’s starter for the Arizona Cardinals. Congrats to him. Yeah. Wow. Jacobe Brassette, former starter for the Indianapolis Colts. This man, I was pushing for him to be the MVP that season. He led the Indianapolis Colts whenever we were in the middle of a quarterback carousel in phenomenal ways. He was a leader. Everybody loved him. He was calling meetings. The team would obviously fight for him. He was doing an offense, Frank Reich, I believe, offense in a way that we hadn’t seen. And it was like everybody’s on board. This guy is leading the coach to to the promised land. Now, obviously, one thing leads to another. He ends up leaving us. He goes to another job, goes to another job, kind of bounces around. Jacobe Brassette, backup quarterback. Why is this guy still in a league? A lot of people say, “Well, it’s because he’s a damn good football player.” And out there in Arizona, they haven’t had a chance to be able to get him on the field. And that offense is executing better with him than anybody else we’ve seen, including Kyler Murray, who they just paid $200 million. We were talking to Bruce Arens yesterday, former coach of the Arizona Cardinals, and he said, uh, Kyler Murray is going to be a starting quarterback for that team whenever he’s healthy. Uh, a lot of money was given to Kyler Murray. There’s no way they’re just going to let that kind of just sit on the sideline. Then just a couple hours later, yep, we are. We actually will do that. They’re moving on with Jacobe. Let’s go to their color commentator, the Arizona Cardinals, a man who knows this team a lot better than maybe anybody with uh the research that he’s had to do to call these games for the Arizona Cardinals fans. And he rides the wave of the game. Oh, yeah. I mean, he rides the wave. He kind of got shades of Iron Cop in there whenever he’s talking about stuff. the legendary Pittsburgh Steelers uh commentator AQ Shipley here. Now AQ, obviously you played for the Arizona Cardinals amongst many other teams. You’re a Super Bowl champion. Now you’re doing color commentary for the team for the local audience. What are what is the reaction out there? You know, because obviously BA’s reaction was it would never happen because business-wise across the entire league. It’s like Kyler Murray’s upside. Well, he could be he could be special obviously very high draft pick. Very very high draft pick. Uh in Arizona, how do they view it? Is everybody on board with Jacobe? like basically fan-wise and what does this mean for the future you think with Kyler and the Cardinals? They love Jacobe Bridette. It he’s been fantastic and when you watch what he’s done, when you look at him against the Colts, then to the Packers, two of the best teams in football, the offense was so much more fluid, so much more efficient, the ball’s getting distributed to more people. He has been fantastic and then he comes out against the Cowboys and was basically flawless. The one interesting thing he’s been fantastic on third and long whereas typically you typically go draws, you go screens, you do all these things. He’s hitting third and 23. He’s throwing a 43 yard pass and they’re getting first downs. He’s been fantastic. He’s great in the play action. He knows Drew Petting and he’s distributing. He’s thrown more touchdown passes to Trey McBride this year than he has thrown to Trey McBride from Kyler his entire career. Yeah, I heard Trey McBride more touchdowns in like the last three games than Trey McBride and Kyler throughout the entirety of a couple seasons. Adam Shfter reported that Kyler Murray’s uh Kyler Murray and the Cardinals have consulted with multiple doctors on his foot injury and have been told the timets for recovery have been anywhere from 4 to 8 weeks. Okay, one month two months with an increased chance of setback until it’s properly healed. Murray now has more time to heal while the Cardinals get a chance to kind of experience what Jacobe Br could be as a starter debut. That’s kind of uh that’s good news. get him completely healthy and also get a chance to see what it’s like for Jacobe. That’s in a good spot for the Arizona Cardinals, you think? Yes, it’s a good spot. It’s a good problem to have. Obviously, we always said now if you have two quarterbacks, you don’t have any. So, you do want to have a clear direction with whoever that guy will be. Now, with Kyler not being 100%. I know a lot of people were kind of calling this a soft benching. I did see a quote uh I believe from Jonathan G. I don’t know if it was confirmed. I did see Rap Cheat retweeted. So, I kind of took it for, you know, being the truth and then basically saying even if Kyler was healthy, they would be going forward with Jacobe, which is which is why it’s a big decision. Uh, but well, Burns and Gambo are on it though, right? They’re on it. I mean, once I saw rap, she put Stamp and I said, “All right, it got to be real. What’s that?” Burns and Gambo are his peers. Those are his Those are my co-workers. Hey, good quote. Good quote there, Debb from Burns and Gambo, who we certainly appreciate. I mean, that that that’s huge. So it is a I mean it’s a real benching at this point. Now you still want him to get healthy but you are going forward with Jacobe and he’s proved it. It’s it’s get your opportunity take full advantage of it. You can’t lose the locker room by saying hey we’re going with this guy because he’s making $40 more million dollars because we’re fighting. This is a this is a good football team. You know it’s a good football team. Even last year remember they didn’t win a lot of games but it’s like defense is going to be uh stubborn. Defense is going to be stubborn and they were going to fight and fight and fight. It was like a lot of close games close games. Close games. And then this year, close games, close games, close games. It’s like they’re not as ass as their record has looked just like the Colts kind of. The Colts were a team that was much better team than what like didn’t make the playoffs the last few years. Colts were a much better team than what their record showed. I think Arizona kind of the same now. Their record is still ass though. I mean, it’s still an assets record right now if you look at that. But a lot of football left to maybe go on a run. They have a long way to climb. There’s really no room for error moving forward. But they’re doing it differently than they have in the years past cuz their run game coordinator went to Dallas this off season. They relied solely on the run the last couple of years. 13 personnel. They ran the heck out of the ball. Now all of a sudden they’re becoming a passing team. They’re doing a ton of play action. They’re pushing the ball down the field with Jacobe. Jacobe might be a sleeper fantasy pick. He might be ahead and trade for Jacobe. Sounds like they’re going to be throwing the ball a lot. Marvin Harrison Jr. said whenever he was told that he was going to be a focal point in the Dallas Cowboys plan, he was excited about that. And then I saw somebody tweet go, “Yeah, the guy should be a focal point.” Yeah, maybe we should be focus maybe we should do that. But nonetheless, Arizona Cardinals make a massive what’s next for Kyler. You know, the natural instinct for you know football fans especially whenever Kyler has as much talent in his pinky as you know some people have in their entire bodies. And we’re talking about a super athlete here. This guy unbelievable. We’ve obviously seen the highlights on football fields where he runs for three miles and he’s out running everybody. We’ve seen him full speed run and have a perfect throw. We’ve seen him be able to do things on a football field that are very special athletically. But he’s also top 10 draft pick in MLB. Okay. Like also top 10 draft pick in MLB. How old is he? Can’t be that old. Like 27 I think. Okay. So now the question is if this is from Burns and Gambo, you know, and they know what’s the station 98.7 Arizona Sports. Nice. Nailed it. Your beers. Hell yeah. Nailed it. But what’s next for Kyler? You assume that maybe another team will say, “Hey, if we get him in our building, he’ll be able to be unbelievable.” But is there a little bit of Kyler maybe thinking, “Hey, I I I could see that curve. I I could see that curveball.” and he’s still young enough. He’s still young enough to potentially be able to do that. How impossible would that be in that conversation? And how realistic? Probably not that much because other teams will want him, but we’re talking about a freak athlete here whenever we’re chitchatting about Kyler. And I think that gets forgotten about with all the other stuff and the video game stuff, pausing the contract stuff and then this stuff and that stuff. It’s like, hey, we’re talking about a special elite uh athlete that has ever been one of one top 10 in both football and MLB. So, I think that kind of gets lost in a conversation about all this. Yeah. I mean, I don’t think he he he hasn’t played baseball in like six years and who knows how much, you know, he’s like going to the batting cages cuz I’m sure he can still do that kind of stuff like pretty easily. But the big thing is is like he hasn’t played in six years. So, it’s not like he’s going to be able to, let’s say he’s done with football, he’s not going to go sign with like the Red Sox and then be on their opening day. I see Russell Wilson training. I see Russ and Russell Wilson comes jogging out. Yeah. He goes to spring training. He gets two at bats. He strikes out. He looks like an idiot against like a guy who has been playing baseball. It hasn’t just taken six years off. I hope Russell Wilson tweets you right now. I hope he does too. That’d be awesome. That would be awesome. That would be awesome. Hey, this guy can’t hit a curveball either. And what if Russell Wilson says to you in response to on a tweet says, “I’d take you yard 10 times just straight.” Why don’t you pitch against Russell Wilson one? I would love to. And I would hope Russell Wilson would take me yard 10 times because he’s a Super Bowl winning quarterback. He’s an unbelievable athlete and he’s also got drafted to play in. But how sick would that be if you struck his ass out? That’d be pretty sick. And you know what? I was going to say, you know, he’s never seen my knuckle curveball. So like we’ll just we’ll say that. But the big thing about Kyler is you make $200 million. Like if you had made $200 million, do you want to go back down and play single A, double A and be on buses with guys who like that’s never going to happen ever. Is that what he has to do? Yeah. There’s just there’s no there’s no way that I mean I I suppose he could get invited to like a team spring training and then all of a sudden it’s like he’s batting 500, he hits a bunch of homers, but there’s just no like over the Kyler walking into spring training. I haven’t played in six years. How do you do? Steps in there. Bomb. But it’ also be a thing like, you know, with TB like the you know how much every one of those guys is relishing like you know I’m I’m going to strike this [ __ ] out like this guy thinks he can just come in. Yeah. No, but but that’s what I’m saying. It’s completely different. Obviously TBO like these guys knew that was kind of more of a publicity stunt. Like yeah, he had played baseball before, but like Kyler, you know, I mean he couldn’t catch a fire. got pop-ups bouncing off his head going into the crowd. As somebody that played Frontier League baseball alongside uh Michael Jordan as well, I would say what I was doing a little bit of a publicity stunt. A little bit of a publicity. I had a microphone. You miked up. I was miked up having conversation maybe a little ahead of our time. Yeah. You know, uh now that you look at that entire thing, that was Tim Tbo was on these buses driving tonto. I don’t think he was doing it as I think he was trying to make it in MLB. Like I think he was I agree. He absolutely was. Do you think personalitywise uh how similar do you think Tim Tibo and Kyler Murray are? Well, so what if Kyler Okay, so let’s get rid of all the bus taken. Okay. In the single. That’s a pretty big part of it, though. Well, let’s get rid of it. Okay. All right. Let’s get rid of it. It’s out of the way. Okay. All right. Now we’re every game is in his backyard. Bingo. Okay. Traveling to him. He’s got the money. We’re buying the tickets. Exactly. Let’s they move double A out of there, too. Let’s say it goes in AAA. Okay. Like they did with Mr. Skins. Okay, he comes in AAA. Maybe here in Indianapolis. Maybe it would be great to have him. It not a chance that they would just drop him in AAA because he’s a 28-year-old who might be a special talent. There’s a chance because I assume with a guy like that, like you said, like he he is one of one like and it it could be like riding a bike, but I I mean just it’s a lot. It’s obviously very difficult. Like all these guys talk about how hard it is to hit a baseball and I’m assuming that like if you need to be if you’re going to be an NFL quarterback like there can’t be any like he is all NFL. He hasn’t probably thought about baseball. That’s not what I’ve heard potentially really. I’ve heard that maybe maybe there is back to ball in some of the workouts in the offseason. Okay. So if that’s the case like yeah I mean I I again he it might I would like to know we are not telling you you should quit football. Okay. I’m not telling you that. But I’m saying if an opportunity presents itself for you to be one of the first of all time to do something, I wonder if that is something that kind of spurs motivation, inspiration to maybe go and get it or another NFL team would say, “Hey, yeah, you get in our building. You’ll be Imagine with Kevin O’Connell.” Not that it will because JJ McCarthy is really going to be a guy. But you start thinking about like offensive gurus like that. If McDaniel got, you know, with Caleb Williams, would they be able to time something up and be able to come an efficient offense? Especially because he has an absolute host. Now, can you break down a defense? spend all that type of stuff is the whole conversation, but we’re talking about a special talent and we need to never forget that. NBA BA obviously he’s not coaching now, but you would think a lot of coaches probably still think like him, especially offensive minded coaching like NBA definitely was not out on him. He’s still Hey, Kyler can still be a guy. There’s still a lot of tread on his tire and he’s 20some years old. We talk about the freak athlete that he is. He has the arm talent. We’ve seen quarterbacks go to different system and different coaches and and you know personality and all that stuff matters as well. But you know still I think I think we’ll obviously see Kyler Murray on the football field. But I mean look I I I would love him. I don’t want I don’t want to see him dying single. Hey Tyler, you’re representing the NFL. MJ did it right. Where’d he go? Where was the Baron? Yeah. Birmingham Baron. I b double A. Okay. Yeah he did. I mean you know MJ ain’t do much [ __ ] now but well back then also there was no internet. There was no Call of Duty. I don’t think there was no uh really anything else to do, you know. So, MJ MJ had [ __ ] to do. Always did, didn’t he? He was good at all of it. How about his like legendary golf stories playing 36 holes before like a game four or whatever, game three, scoring 52. Yeah, I I played 36 holes with this guy. He’s playing tonight. It’s a playoff game. Drops 32. Winks at me as he’s going out. It’s unbelievable. Guy different. Couldn’t even imagine him in the modern world, you know, with all the content that is happening. Imagine him on a golf course day of a playoff game. Imagine if they caught Tyrese’s big ass on the day of a playoff game. He would get absolutely eviscerated. Joining us now is a man who might have a little bit more information on all the moves that we saw yesterday. He’s an insider everywhere. Has friends literally in every single building. Now he’s with ESPN, formerly Emmy award winner at NFL Network. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Shreger, how you doing, brother? We’re talking about Kyler Murray. Any thoughts on that entire situation over there? I’ll tell you this. I was there Monday for that Monday night football game and I’m walking around the field before the game and I’m, you know, talking to everyone, doing my thing, kind of kissing babies, shaking hands, whatever. And everybody in Arizona, you know, was talking about Jacobe Brassette and and how good he had been the last five weeks and what a shame it was that he wasn’t able to get the victory. And they had three walk-off field goals. And the elephant in the room is there’s Kyler Murray standing there. He’s dressed in a Dallas Stars jersey. Looked great. And he’s there on the sidelines and he was 9 and0 in his life going back to high school, college, and the pros in that building. And he was just a complete non-factor in this game because he was out with the injury. But the juice around Jacobe was so real that I came away from this one thinking like I don’t know if they’re just pumping him up or not, but like there’s maybe a future with Jacobe Brassette as the guy there. The problem is Kyler’s contract the next three years, it’s over like a hundred million dollars in dead cap cap space. So, what do you do with that? But in a post Russell Wilson era where teams just say rip the band-aid off, that that might be the move. I I I’ll say this, they are still paying Cliff Kingsbury his full salary. They are still paying Steve Kim his full salary. Those guys are from a different era. Those are the guys who brought Kyler in. these new guys, Ganon and Monty Austin for and his crew, they didn’t draft Kyler. They didn’t sign him to that extension. And if you go to the owner and say, “Hey, we tried it for two years. We’re going to move on. We got to take a financial hit. We’ll figure it out.” They might be more open to it than if they were the guys who actually drafted him. That’s crazy. Yeah. Anytime you got a new GM or new coach, new power, uh you have new allegiances and new loyalties and new visions. you know, how you see a team being is not necessarily the team that you’ve inherited uh whenever you’re in charge. And uh I experienced it. You know, we got a new GM and I was literally told during the negotiation process that there is no loyalty between us and it was like really? Wow. Yeah. So I was literally told that piece of information. It was like oh okay sounds good. So I’m gone I guess.

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47 comments
  1. People don't know anything, Murray isn't the issue. You think you can replace him so easily? He needs a change of scenery is all. The drafting, general managing and coaching is your issue. Don't let a team tell you that a dual-sport professional athlete can't win a football game. Harrison is a bust, call it like it is. The NFL and media dances around it because they have respect for his dad. He was taken #4 overall. Only position that it is acceptable to have a learning curve taken that early is QB. WR fourth overall?? Expected to have 1000 yards as rookie, easy. The Cardinals are taking their fans for a ride here, making Murray the fall guy for self-preservation. Guys with a strong program and real coaches (like Mike Tomlin) are drooling that he gets released and they can get him for no assets. Aaron Rodgers is probably one and done in Pitts, don't be surprised. Definitely don't be surprised if Murray leaves a crap franchise and starts absolutely balling either.

  2. Cut the nonsense, use both styles of QB. Brisett can't run outside the pocket well enough, and Kyler has a higher success rate when he's outside the picket and running.

  3. Kyler is an amazing talent, but let's be honest – the NFL is a big man's game. 5'10" QBs never have good careers. He should've come into the league as a tailback or a WR, not a QB.

  4. Kyler is an athlete but Jacoby is a student of the game. He’s the kind of dude who win with a competent staff. Kyler doesn’t need a competent staff to win, he has enough talent to pull wins out on his own to a degree. However, he is insanely immature and needs one hell of a leader. Kyler needs an Andy Reid or Mike Tomlin kind of coach.

  5. i think Kyler Murray's athletic talent gets in the way of him playing QB because he knows what he can do and might pass up on the quick and easy going for the big play

  6. Cards fan here. Ready to move on from Murray and see him win 3 Super Bowls with a franchise like Pittsburgh.
    For real though, we can't take ourselves seriously if we go back to K1 with his track record and seeing how JB can run this offense.

  7. These teams receive so much public tax payer money, and just hemorrhage large portions with long term player and coach pay packages that they just kick to the curb anyways

  8. Kyler is just another Tua. Another guy who got way to hyped up and expectations were held to high because of college. Just another average guy. Arizona paying him 200 mill shows its a popularity contest

  9. The Cardinals put QB Kyler Murray on I.R. Which basically means that we're going to bench you for a couple of weeks to see if Brisett can step up and allow us to trade you and get rid of your contact. The NFL is a crazy business

  10. They will move forward with him, right up to the point where he has a bad game or two, and then, BAM, back to Murray. Happens every season with one team or another.

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